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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
February 19 2008 18:45 GMT
#81
My tastes are a bit wierd, as I actually like the stuff they make you read in school.

Also a fan of Murakami and Vonnugut as earlier mentioned in the thread.
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
February 19 2008 19:18 GMT
#82
Hm I've read some books by Murakami and I thought they were okay, but I think he's being hyped a little too much. Some time ago I read a book by another Japanese author called Kenzaburo Oe which is called the Pride of the Dead or something similar. It's about a student who works at a university mortuary and during this work he starts to philosophize about life and death, etc. was a really great read.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 19 2008 19:20 GMT
#83
Grapes of Wrath was so painful, ending was so lame. Kafka on the Shore by Murakami was terrific
JohnnyCash
Profile Joined February 2006
France244 Posts
February 19 2008 19:26 GMT
#84
One Hundred Years of Solitude. Splendid!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
February 19 2008 19:33 GMT
#85
I prefer Love in the Time of Cholera over 100 Years, myself. I love that book - it's so romantic but so twisted at the same time.

Monte`Cristo is overmentioned but it's still one of my all-time favorites. Bloody awesome story + intriguing characters = immense rereading potential.

I really liked Kierkegaard's 'The Sickness Unto Death'; it was quite inspirational and thought-provoking [if you like that whole philosophy sort of thing]

Actually any Kierkegaard, any Garcia Marquez, any Dumas.. haha`

Any Tolkien too. I like Tolkien.
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LeafHouse
Profile Joined June 2007
United States185 Posts
February 19 2008 19:45 GMT
#86
My favorite right now is My Name is Asher Lev by Potok. All Quiet On the Western Front has been one of my favorites for a long time. Soo good.

Just finished some short stories by Gogol and wanted to read some Dostoievsky... would you guys recommend the Brothers Karamozov or Crime and Punishment first? I just seriously don't know.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 19 2008 19:50 GMT
#87
I really liked the thomas harris books. His writing style is so direct and to the point.

I like David Gemmel and R A Salvatore too.

Also I think Of Mice and Men is genius by Steinbeck! And in terms of technical english wizardry and plot coordination, I think Shakespeare is probably the best.

Secretly loved the Harry Potter series from cover to cover too! A good example of plot > dialogue and writing aptitude.
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
February 19 2008 20:14 GMT
#88
Wheel of time-series anyone?

I used to read alot more than I do now a couple years back but my favourites are Stephen King, Neil Gaiman and Dean Koontz, in that order
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
February 19 2008 21:07 GMT
#89
On February 20 2008 04:45 LeafHouse wrote:
My favorite right now is My Name is Asher Lev by Potok. All Quiet On the Western Front has been one of my favorites for a long time. Soo good.

Just finished some short stories by Gogol and wanted to read some Dostoievsky... would you guys recommend the Brothers Karamozov or Crime and Punishment first? I just seriously don't know.



I read the part of Brothers Karamasow by Dostoievsy where an inquisitor is talking to Christ; But now that I think of it I really don't remember how this played out, I think I'll have to read it again.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5468 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-19 21:23:52
February 19 2008 21:23 GMT
#90
I've read a lot of books in the past 4 years (English major), the best one I've read so far is Sons and Lovers by D.H. Lawrence

Good Morning, Midnight by Jean Rhys is very powerful too...

edit: And I'm talking books in general, not just "literature", it really is a fucking good book.
drug_vict1m
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
844 Posts
February 19 2008 21:57 GMT
#91
walden - thoreau
siddharta - hesse
fabula rasa - stachura
ulisses - joyce

i really enjoyed those
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EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-19 22:15:47
February 19 2008 22:13 GMT
#92
Read odyssey by jack mcDevitt. He's being praised to high heaven as the next great sci fi writer but I thought odyssey was awfully crappy. The book was like reading a movie script, purely unrealistic conversations between people with very, very, very little narration. The story itself was boring, climax really stunk and it kept my imagination comatose. However mcDevitt is still a great writer, I won't write him off entirely based on only 1 of his books.

I read the starbucks series by Bernard Cornwell over the christmas holidays. I'm a huge fan of Cornwells historical fiction and starbuck doesn't disapoint. It's about the civil war, the story follows a university dropout studying to be a minister who flees south and joins the rebel army. Great story and characters, even enjoyed this series more than sharpe (who's son makes a cameo appearance). So far there's only 4 books out in the series and I'm eagerly waiting for the next.
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dancefayedance!~
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
396 Posts
February 20 2008 00:15 GMT
#93
On February 20 2008 04:45 LeafHouse wrote:
My favorite right now is My Name is Asher Lev by Potok. All Quiet On the Western Front has been one of my favorites for a long time. Soo good.

Just finished some short stories by Gogol and wanted to read some Dostoievsky... would you guys recommend the Brothers Karamozov or Crime and Punishment first? I just seriously don't know.

start with crime and punishment and see how you do with that. the brothers karamzov is excellent, though not dostoevsky's most accessible work.
bp1696
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States288 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-20 00:53:36
February 20 2008 00:50 GMT
#94
On November 27 2003 15:04 KorvspaD wrote:
Snow Crash


Snow Crash is excellent, but my favorite books are:

Don Quixote - I don't care that it's from like the fucking 1600s, this book is seriously funny. The movie/tv/wishbone adaptations don't do justice to it. Go dl and read this, it's hilarious.

Good Omens - Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman. How could you go wrong? Answer: you don't. No christian will ever fear the apocalypse after reading this book.

A Confederacy of Dunces - It's a shame John Kennedy Toole committed suicide. An even bigger shame that the publishing houses rejected this hilarious masterpiece. Which goes to show that just because they work in publishing doesnt mean that they can predict what's successful/great literature or not.

Anyone else read these/agree/think I'm an idiot?

On February 20 2008 04:45 LeafHouse wrote:
My favorite right now is My Name is Asher Lev by Potok. All Quiet On the Western Front has been one of my favorites for a long time. Soo good.

Just finished some short stories by Gogol and wanted to read some Dostoievsky... would you guys recommend the Brothers Karamozov or Crime and Punishment first? I just seriously don't know.


Brothers Karamazov is by far the better work, in my opinion. It's like comparing Tolstoy's War and Peace to his Anna Karenina. Both are good works, but Bros Kar and W/P are just the apogees of each author.
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
February 20 2008 02:14 GMT
#95
Good Omens was realllly hilarious

Don Quixote I've never finished =/

I liked C+P more than Karamazov (Yeah I know I'm in the minority but w/e)

I mean my favorite Dostoevsky is actually The Idiot
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
February 20 2008 07:27 GMT
#96
The Brothers Karamazov - Dostoevsky.

I doubt I will ever come across anything better than this book. Simply amazing. Though it takes about 200 pages to get fully immersed into the story. If you ever read it, go in with the mind set of finishing it!

I'm actually re-reading it right now, it has been 4 years. It's still just as good.

LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
February 20 2008 07:34 GMT
#97
On February 20 2008 09:50 bp1696 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2003 15:04 KorvspaD wrote:
Snow Crash


Snow Crash is excellent, but my favorite books are:

Don Quixote - I don't care that it's from like the fucking 1600s, this book is seriously funny. The movie/tv/wishbone adaptations don't do justice to it. Go dl and read this, it's hilarious.

Good Omens - Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman. How could you go wrong? Answer: you don't. No christian will ever fear the apocalypse after reading this book.

A Confederacy of Dunces - It's a shame John Kennedy Toole committed suicide. An even bigger shame that the publishing houses rejected this hilarious masterpiece. Which goes to show that just because they work in publishing doesnt mean that they can predict what's successful/great literature or not.

Anyone else read these/agree/think I'm an idiot?

Show nested quote +
On February 20 2008 04:45 LeafHouse wrote:
My favorite right now is My Name is Asher Lev by Potok. All Quiet On the Western Front has been one of my favorites for a long time. Soo good.

Just finished some short stories by Gogol and wanted to read some Dostoievsky... would you guys recommend the Brothers Karamozov or Crime and Punishment first? I just seriously don't know.


Brothers Karamazov is by far the better work, in my opinion. It's like comparing Tolstoy's War and Peace to his Anna Karenina. Both are good works, but Bros Kar and W/P are just the apogees of each author.


Judging by your taste, I think you would enjoy Hunter S. Thompson immensely.

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: A Savage Journey to the Heart of the American Dream
, of course being the most popular of his works.

Everything he's written is hilarious.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-20 07:45:23
February 20 2008 07:45 GMT
#98
Excerpt from early chapter of "Game of Thrones" by George R.R. Martin

+ Show Spoiler +
Bran

The morning had dawned clear and cold, with a crispness that hinted at the end of summer. They set forth at daybreak to see a man beheaded, twenty in all, and Bran rode among them, nervous with excitement. This was the first time he had been deemed old enough to go with his lord father and his brothers to see the king's justice done. It was the ninth year of summer, and the seventh of Bran's life.

The man had been taken outside a small holdfast in the hills. Robb thought he was a wildling, his sword sworn to Mance Rayder, the King-beyond-the-Wall. It made Bran's skin prickle to think of it. He remembered the hearth tales Old Nan told them. The wildlings were cruel men, she said, slavers and slayers and thieves. They consorted with giants and ghouls, stole girl children in the dead of night, and drank blood from polished horns. And their women lay with the Others in the Long Night to sire terrible half-human children.

But the man they found bound hand and foot to the holdfast wall awaiting the king's justice was old and scrawny, not much taller than Robb. He had lost both ears and a finger to frostbite, and he dressed all in black, the same as a brother of the Night's Watch, except that his furs were ragged and greasy.

The breath of man and horse mingled, steaming, in the cold morning air as his lord father had the man cut down from the wall and dragged before them. Robb and Jon sat tall and still on their horses, with Bran between them on his pony, trying to seem older than seven, trying to pretend that he'd seen all this before. A faint wind blew through the holdfast gate. Over their heads flapped the banner of the Starks of Winterfell: a grey direwolf racing across an ice-white field.

Bran's father sat solemnly on his horse, long brown hair stirring in the wind. His closely trimmed beard was shot with white, making him look older than his thirty-five years. He had a grim cast to his grey eyes this day, and he seemed not at all the man who would sit before the fire in the evening and talk softly of the age of heroes and the children of the forest. He had taken off Father's face, Bran thought, and donned the face of Lord Stark of Winterfell.

There were questions asked and answers given there in the chill of morning, but afterward Bran could not recall much of what had been said. Finally his lord father gave a command, and two of his guardsmen dragged the ragged man to the ironwood stump in the center of the square. They forced his head down onto the hard black wood. Lord Eddard Stark dismounted and his ward Theon Greyjoy brought forth the sword. "Ice," that sword was called. It was as wide across as a man's hand, and taller even than Robb. The blade was Valyrian steel, spell-forged and dark as smoke. Nothing held an edge like Valyrian steel.

His father peeled off his gloves and handed them to Jory Cassel, the captain of his household guard. He took hold of Ice with both hands and said, "In the name of Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of his Name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm, by the word of Eddard of the House Stark, Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North, I do sentence you to die." He lifted the great sword high above his head.

Bran's bastard brother Jon Snow moved closer. "Keep the pony well in hand," he whispered. "And don't look away. Father will know if you do."

Bran kept his pony well in hand, and did not look away.
His father took off the man's head with a single sure stroke. Blood sprayed out across the snow, as red as summerwine. One of the horses reared and had to be restrained to keep from bolting. Bran could not take his eyes off the blood. The snows around the stump drank it eagerly, reddening as he watched.

The head bounced off a thick root and rolled. It came up near Greyjoy's feet. Theon was a lean, dark youth of nineteen who found everything amusing. He laughed, put his boot on the head,and kicked it away.

"Ass," Jon muttered, low enough so Greyjoy did not hear. He put a hand on Bran's shoulder, and Bran looked over at his bastard brother.

"You did well," Jon told him solemnly. Jon was fourteen, an old hand at justice.

It seemed colder on the long ride back to Winterfell, though the wind had died by then and the sun was higher in the sky. Bran rode with his brothers, well ahead of the main party, his pony struggling hard to keep up with their horses.

"The deserter died bravely," Robb said. He was big and broad and growing every day, with his mother's coloring, the fair skin, red-brown hair, and blue eyes of the Tullys of Riverrun. "He had courage, at the least."

"No," Jon Snow said quietly. "It was not courage. This one was dead of fear. You could see it in his eyes, Stark." Jon's eyes were a grey so dark they seemed almost black, but there was little they did not see. He was of an age with Robb, but they did not look alike. Jon was slender where Robb was muscular, dark where Robb was fair, graceful and quick where his half brother was strong and fast.

Robb was not impressed. "The Others take his eyes," he swore. "He died well. Race you to the bridge?"

"Done," Jon said, kicking his horse forward. Robb cursed and followed, and they galloped off down the trail, Robb laughing and hooting, Jon silent and intent. The hooves of their horses kicked up showers of snow as they went.

Bran did not try to follow. His pony could not keep up. He had seen the ragged man's eyes, and he was thinking of them now. After a while, the sound of Robb's laughter receded, and the woods grew silent again.

That was when Jon reappeared on the crest of the hill before them. He waved and shouted down at them. "Father, Bran, come quickly, see what Robb has found!" Then he was gone again.

Jory rode up beside them. "Trouble, my lord?"

"Beyond a doubt," his lord father said. "Come, let us see what mischief my sons have rooted out now." He sent his horse into a trot. Jory and Bran and the rest came after.

They found Robb on the riverbank north of the bridge, with Jon still mounted beside him. The late summer snows had been heavy this moonturn. Robb stood knee-deep in white, his hood pulled back so the sun shone in his hair. He was cradling something in his arm, while the boys talked in hushed, excited voices.

The riders picked their way carefully through the drifts, groping for solid footing on the hidden, uneven ground. Jory Cassel and Theon Greyjoy were the first to reach the boys. Greyjoy was laughing and joking as he rode. Bran heard the breath go out of him. "Gods!" he exclaimed, struggling to keep control of his horse as he reached for his sword.

Jory's sword was already out. "Robb, get away from it!" he called as his horse reared under him.

Robb grinned and looked up from the bundle in his arms. "She can't hurt you," he said. "She's dead, Jory."

Bran was afire with curiosity by then. He would have spurred the pony faster, but his father made them dismount beside the bridge and approach on foot. Bran jumped off and ran.

By then Jon, Jory, and Theon Greyjoy had all dismounted as well. "What in the seven hells is it?" Greyjoy was saying.

"A wolf," Robb told him.

"A freak," Greyjoy said. "Look at the size of it."

Bran's heart was thumping in his chest as he pushed through a waist-high drift to his brothers' side.

Half-buried in blood stained snow, a huge dark shape slumped in death. Ice had formed in its shaggy grey fur, and the faint smell of corruption clung to it like a woman's perfume. Bran glimpsed blind eyes crawling with maggots, a wide mouth full of yellowed teeth. But it was the size of it that made him gasp. It was bigger than his pony, twice the size of the largest hound in his father's kennel.

"It's no freak," Jon said calmly. "That's a direwolf. They grow larger than the other kind."

Theon Greyjoy said, "There's not been a direwolf sighted south of the Wall in two hundred years."

"I see one now," Jon replied.

Bran tore his eyes away from the monster. That was when he noticed the bundle in Robb's arms. He gave a cry of delight and moved closer. The pup was a tiny ball of grey-black fur, its eyes still closed. It nuzzled blindly against Robb's chest as he cradled it, searching for milk among his leathers, making a sad little whimpery sound. Bran reached out hesitantly. "Go on,"Robb told him. "You can touch him."

Bran gave the pup a quick nervous stroke, then turned as Jon said, "Here you go." His half brother put a second pup into his arms. "There are five of them." Bran sat down in the snow and hugged the wolf pup to his face. Its fur was soft and warm against his cheek.

"Direwolves loose in the realm, after so many years," muttered Hullen, the master of horse. "I like it not."

"It is a sign," Jory said.

Father frowned. "This is only a dead animal, Jory," he said. Yet he seemed troubled. Snow crunched under his boots as he moved around the body. "Do we know what killed her?"

"There's something in the throat," Robb told him, proud to have found the answer before his father even asked. "There, just under the jaw."
His father knelt and groped under the beast's head with his hand. He gave a yank and held it up for all to see. A foot of shattered antler, tines snapped off, all wet with blood.

A sudden silence descended over the party. The men looked at the antler uneasily, and no one dared to speak. Even Bran could sense their fear, though he did not understand.

His father tossed the antler to the side and cleansed his hands in the snow. "I'm surprised she lived long enough to whelp," he said. His voice broke the spell.

"Maybe she didn't," Jory said. "I've heard tales . . . maybe the bitch was already dead when the pups came."

"Born with the dead," another man put in. "Worse luck."

"No matter," said Hullen. "They be dead soon enough too."

Bran gave a wordless cry of dismay.

"The sooner the better," Theon Greyjoy agreed. He drew his sword.

"Give the beast here, Bran."

The little thing squirmed against him, as if it heard and understood.

"No!" Bran cried out fiercely. "It's mine."

"It be a mercy to kill them," Hullen said.

Bran looked to his lord father for rescue, but got only a frown, a furrowed brow. "Hullen speaks truly, son. Better a swift death than a hard one from cold and starvation."

"No!" He could feel tears welling in his eyes, and he looked away. He did not want to cry in front of his father.

"Lord Stark," Jon said. It was strange to hear him call Father that, so formal. Bran looked at him with desperate hope. "There are five pups," he told Father. "Three male, two female."

"What of it, Jon?"

"You have five true born children," Jon said. "Three sons, two daughters. The direwolf is the sigil of your House. Your children were meant to have these pups, my lord."

Bran saw his father's face change, saw the other men exchange glances. He loved Jon with all his heart at that moment. Even at seven, Bran understood what his brother had done. The count had come right only because Jon had omitted himself. He had included the girls, included even Rickon, the baby, but not the bastard who bore the surname Snow, the name that custom decreed be given to all those in the north unlucky enough to be born with no name of their own.

Their father understood as well. "You want no pup for yourself, Jon?" he asked softly.

"The direwolf graces the banners of House Stark," Jon pointed out. "I am no Stark, Father."

Their lord father regarded Jon thoughtfully. Robb rushed into the silence he left. "I will nurse him myself, Father," he promised. "I will soak a towel with warm milk, and give him suck from that."

"Me too!" Bran echoed.

The lord weighed his sons long and carefully with his eyes. "Easy to say, and harder to do. I will not have you wasting the servants' time with this. If you want these pups, you will feed them yourselves. Is that understood?"

Bran nodded eagerly. The pup squirmed in his grasp, lickedat his face with a warm tongue.

It was not until they were mounted and on their way that Bran allowed himself to taste the sweet air of victory. By then, his pup was snuggled inside his leathers, warm against him, safe for the long ride home. Bran was wondering what to name him.

Halfway across the bridge, Jon pulled up suddenly.

"What is it, Jon?" their lord father asked.

"Can't you hear it?"

Bran could hear the wind in the trees, the clatter of their hooves on the ironwood planks, the whimpering of his hungry pup, but Jon was listening to something else.

"There," Jon said. He swung his horse around and galloped back across the bridge. They watched him dismount where the direwolf lay dead in the snow, watched him kneel. A moment later he was riding back to them, smiling.

"He must have crawled away from the others," Jon said.

"Or been driven away," their father said, looking at the sixth pup. His fur was white, where the rest of the litter was grey. His eyes were as red as the blood of the ragged man who had died that morning. Bran thought it curious that this pup alone would have opened his eyes while the others were still blind.

"An albino," Theon Greyjoy said with wry amusement. "This one will die even faster than the others."

Jon Snow gave his father's ward a long, chilling look. "I think not, Greyjoy," he said. "This one belongs to me."
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 20 2008 08:09 GMT
#99
I like excession...

hmmm so many good books

neuromancer is famous

helm by steven gould is hard to find and a bit simplistic, but I really like it. Neat blend of past and present.

I tend to like books that involve leadership or military tactics...probably a big reason I liked ender's game so much
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HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
February 20 2008 09:17 GMT
#100
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