Work 55 hrs/wk for 52 wks. at McD's for $102k - Page 7
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GhostKorean
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Canada4732 Posts
On January 23 2009 12:12 TanGeng wrote: Wow, those wage rates in Scandinavia are ridiculous. Your unemployment must be ridiculous because such jobs should be rare. That's the downside of minimum wages laws. It really really hurts the poor and relatively unproductive. $4/hr jobs don't change into $7.50/hr jobs because minimum wage laws are passed. Instead $4/hr job turns into no job. It gets eliminated and the employee gets fired. I like how the classic conservative viewpoint on minimum wage got promptly raped by the actual unemployment numbers shown in this thread. | ||
bburn
United States1039 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On January 27 2009 09:12 bburn wrote: Looks like this ended rather anticlimactically because it was basically not possible to get the required number of hours. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/boom-goes-dynamite-mcds-day-1-pics-393056/index42.html seems the hours issue was the main cause for failure after all Conclusion- As much as I hate to do this, I think I am going to have to put a halt on this bet. This halt for the time is in hopes that some new terms canned be reached and I can give it another shot soon, but unfortunately some things have to change in order for me to be able to do this. The number 1 problem is hours, its just going to be impossible to get the hours I need under the current conditions. Thoughts of getting a second job were a possibility for a while, but it is against policy and ultimately I don't think there is any way around it. I knew if I didn't think I could do it, I should quit in the first week. Working 7+ hours a day for a year is no cakewalk, I don't know how anyone could say it is. For the time commitment I am going to be giving I just don't know that this is my best investment. I am going to return to poker on a stake and see how the next month goes. I will be sure to keep bbv updated throughout the year on my journey. I hate to let so many people down, but ultimately I think that it is the best choice for me at the time. Snake has been kind enough to only make me pay half of my original wager (600$) and will make sure to help me with hands. He has also agreed to let this bet be payed off at my leisure, with no due date until I get back on my feet. This has certainly been an emotional ride, but for the time being I feel as if this is the best choice. Thanks to everyone for their support. The good news is that snake has also agreed to leave the prop bet proposition door open. If Idream up a crazy enough scheme, we can make it happen. Thanks again to everyone, you haven't seen the last of me. I worked for 5 days at mcdonalds 25 hours total, its been a wild ride. But you have my word, Al will return LOL ALReturnsLOL is offline Reply With Apparently the guy got staked some cash and is back to grinding 50NL, he was originally broke that's where this whoe prop bet came from in the first place. | ||
29 fps
United States5724 Posts
he couldnt get the hours = beyond his control = not really his fault he couldnt put up with it = he fails. why take such a bet? and if those other posts on that site were true (has a kid coming, has no money), he should have sucked it up if not for himself, for the kid. playing poker? he better be good cuz it seems he's starting with a small bankroll and might go broke again. | ||
CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On January 27 2009 09:34 29 fps wrote: fail. he couldnt get the hours or he couldnt put up with it? he couldnt get the hours = beyond his control = not really his fault he couldnt put up with it = he fails. why take such a bet? and if those other posts on that site were true (has a kid coming, has no money), he should have sucked it up if not for himself, for the kid. playing poker? he better be good cuz it seems he's starting with a small bankroll and might go broke again. It was a combination of both actually, he said he never worked a low paying job like this for 40 hours a week before. Which was a lot tougher than he expected and probably couldn't hack it anyways. But the main concern was that they couldn't give him the 55 hours a week required, or allow him to work 2 McD's for 30 hours or whatever. | ||
cz
United States3249 Posts
On January 27 2009 10:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: It was a combination of both actually, he said he never worked a low paying job like this for 40 hours a week before. Which was a lot tougher than he expected and probably couldn't hack it anyways. But the main concern was that they couldn't give him the 55 hours a week required, or allow him to work 2 McD's for 30 hours or whatever. No way, he was going to quit because it was too hard. The "can't get the hours" is a convenient excuse. If he wanted to get the hours he could have, I'm sure the guy offering the prop bet would have let him work the extra hours at a burger king or whatever in addition if he really went out and wanted it. He had an earlier blog post a week ago or so saying that he was basically considering giving up because it was too hard, and wanted to go back to poker. If he wanted to get the hours from another place he could have. | ||
stk01001
United States786 Posts
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Radivel-X17
Canada144 Posts
Really poorly played by the test subject. | ||
29 fps
United States5724 Posts
On January 27 2009 12:38 Radivel-X17 wrote: Don't know if anyone posted it but damn if I wouldn't show up the first day, and say to the manager, "Ok, I've got this bet, if you can rig it in such a way so as to show I did this, I'll give you $25K at the end of the year under the table..." Really poorly played by the test subject. that would be really good, but the manager might think he's bullshitting, unless theres some officially signed bet that guarantees the money. i wouldnt believe such a bet unless there was word from at least 5 people. something like a signed paper of some sort would be better proof that this bet is actually going on. | ||
Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On January 23 2009 05:50 Daigomi wrote: Minimum wage in SA is $1.80 ![]() This is a silly argument. 99% of people will waste way more than 810 hours ([14 hours additional work per week * 50 weeks] + [55 hours a week * 2 weeks that you normally have leave] = 810) of their life paying off study debts/buying a place to live. I don't know how things are in the US, but my sister got a good job at a big SA engineering firm last year, and she will work for 8 years to pay off the car + apartment she bought. If she could do this for a year before moving out she would be able to buy both those things in cash, and then spend the next seven years of her life saving up a shitload of cash that she would have payed on the house. For those with study loans, this is probably even worse. I would do this in the blink of an eye simply because working hard for one year will save me a lot of work and money in the long run. I am fairly sure that I will come close to dying of boredom during that year, but many people have much worse jobs and they survive, if I put my mind to it I'm sure I could survive. It's funny how we all seem to believe that we deserve jobs that will entertain us. Honestly though, if you think about it, how many of you will have jobs where they can claim an $80,000 tax free profit at the end of the year. That is a larger profit than the average psychologist with a Ph.D makes per year in total(according to wikipedia), and yet some of you claim that you wouldn't work weekends for one year to make that. You must have the world's most comfortable jobs. I don't think life quality can be measured as an average. Working like a madman for one year and then slacking off the next is far less enjoyable overall than working normally for two years for the same total revenue. The next thing I disagree with is that you say people will waste more time earning the same amount of money with regular jobs. But all jobs do not waste your time the same way. The current job I do now is wasting my time only around 20%. Some braindead jobs I had before were sitting at about 60%. McDonalds would waste about 90% since I'd have to interact with people for trivial matters and would probably not be able to learn a foreign language through audio methods for example. This is obviously very personal. Some people won't care about learning a foreign language and will genuinely consider chatting with other McDonald's employees not a waste. I'm not sure why you speak about deserving an interesting job. I don't think I deserve an interesting job, I merely know I can have one and of course it goes into the equation like the rest. If I was struggling to feed a family like the guy in the story it would weigh next to zero, but I'm lucky enough not to be in that situation so it's a pretty big factor. But anyway it's very simple imo. You just have to ask yourself these questions: - How much is earning $102k (compared to your current job income) going to increase your happiness now and in the future? - How much is spending all your time doing hamburgers (compared to current schedule and activities) going to decrease your happiness now and in the future? Of course, the answers to this depend completely on your actual salary, how much you enjoy your actual job, your family situation, the cost of life in the country you live in etc. That's why all the answers in this thread are different. Personally, I'd not do it because the difference with my actual salary would not improve my future life enough compared to what I'd lose overall, both in terms of immediate loss (I don't like making hamburgers) and future loss (I won't sell much higher on the employment market after that, I won't have improved at my personal interests because I didn't have free time for them). | ||
Kerensky
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