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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 22 2009 19:43 GMT
#61
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.

draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
January 22 2009 19:46 GMT
#62
Menial work for 100k? I'd do it. I'd love a paid break from my career path during this crappy economy while it repairs itself.
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
January 22 2009 19:54 GMT
#63
I already work 130~170 hours every two weeks as an accountant -_-

And now that it's tax season...

Oh well, better get back to work.
Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
January 22 2009 20:38 GMT
#64
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 22 2009 20:43 GMT
#65
On January 23 2009 05:38 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.


you really can't make a living off of such a low income, but some people do manage.
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TaP.Nuada
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States428 Posts
January 22 2009 20:46 GMT
#66
On January 23 2009 05:38 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.

Right now minimum wage for the US national standard is $6.55/hr for anyone and everyone.

Only three states offer minimum wage above $8.

Kansas = $2.65/hr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S.A._minimum_wages
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 22 2009 20:47 GMT
#67
On January 23 2009 05:38 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.


We're not taxed 40% on income.
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Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
January 22 2009 20:50 GMT
#68
On January 23 2009 00:45 Night[Mare wrote:
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On January 23 2009 00:37 Hans-Titan wrote:
Jesus christ, 7.50? Raise the minimum wage US of A. How the hell can people live of that?

On topic, no way in hell would I spend a year working at McD's. Gotta be the shittiest job imaginable.


minimum wage in mexico is $4.6 usd a DAY.

i think 70% of the people here in mexico doesnt even make 50K usd a year. Most likely everyone here would take that bet


Minimum wage in SA is $1.80

On January 23 2009 03:14 -orb- wrote:
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On January 22 2009 22:56 Matoo- wrote:
No way I would ruin one entire year of my life for $100k.


Agreed.

What's the average life expectancy? 70? Assuming he's already in his 20s I wouldn't waste 1/50th of the rest of my life working that much for a year for 100k.


This is a silly argument. 99% of people will waste way more than 810 hours ([14 hours additional work per week * 50 weeks] + [55 hours a week * 2 weeks that you normally have leave] = 810) of their life paying off study debts/buying a place to live. I don't know how things are in the US, but my sister got a good job at a big SA engineering firm last year, and she will work for 8 years to pay off the car + apartment she bought. If she could do this for a year before moving out she would be able to buy both those things in cash, and then spend the next seven years of her life saving up a shitload of cash that she would have payed on the house. For those with study loans, this is probably even worse.

I would do this in the blink of an eye simply because working hard for one year will save me a lot of work and money in the long run. I am fairly sure that I will come close to dying of boredom during that year, but many people have much worse jobs and they survive, if I put my mind to it I'm sure I could survive. It's funny how we all seem to believe that we deserve jobs that will entertain us.

Honestly though, if you think about it, how many of you will have jobs where they can claim an $80,000 tax free profit at the end of the year. That is a larger profit than the average psychologist with a Ph.D makes per year in total(according to wikipedia), and yet some of you claim that you wouldn't work weekends for one year to make that. You must have the world's most comfortable jobs.
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
January 22 2009 20:56 GMT
#69
On January 23 2009 05:47 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 05:38 Hans-Titan wrote:
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.


We're not taxed 40% on income.

lol you don't get taxed anywhere near that much with minimum wage.
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checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
January 22 2009 21:41 GMT
#70
Man i really hopes he does it... It looks like he needs the money and he can keep ok with the money pay on Mc just till he wins = / GL pal
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Hans-Titan
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Denmark1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 21:47:48
January 22 2009 21:47 GMT
#71
On January 23 2009 05:47 heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 05:38 Hans-Titan wrote:
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.


We're not taxed 40% on income.


Heh, I guess you're right. Personally, I don't pay taxes: noone does beneath 42.9k kr, which is roughly 7.6k US $. There are certain fees which add up to a certain percentage taxation for this bracket (don't remember the actual number but it's low), but the bottomline is that for the lowest percentage the tax burden is minimal. Above an annual income of 50k $ a year the taxes are high tho, at least 40% as you point it. But a McDonalds employee would never have to pay 40% in taxes. The point I'm trying to make is that noone can make a living of 7.5$/h despite paying no taxes whatsoever, assuming an average 37h work-week.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 22 2009 21:54 GMT
#72
no thank you.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 22 2009 22:02 GMT
#73
Well I said no because right now I am still finishing gr.12 but if I was taking a year off to make money before I started college I would definately try.
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naonao
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States847 Posts
January 22 2009 22:03 GMT
#74
I'd get fired for eating over 102k worth of food from behind the counter within a month.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
January 22 2009 22:04 GMT
#75
The one part of this deal I probably couldn't stand would be the smell. Smelling like McDonalds, all day every day...I just don't know if I could take it. I'd have to exercise every day after work to sweat out all the grease, and then shower and dispose of my work clothes before I got home so that my place wouldn't smell like a deep fryer.

Any other minimum wage job - count me in. I love menial labor.
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G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
January 22 2009 22:06 GMT
#76
Sad part is, my friend works 50+ hrs a week...as a doctor...and his pay isn't really any better
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
January 22 2009 22:06 GMT
#77
On January 23 2009 01:45 Luddite wrote:
55 hours a weeks is soooo many hours. That's way, way worse than just 40 hours a week- it basically means you have no weekends at all. Every day just work, eat, fall asleep exhausted.


It's not that bad at all working 11 hours M-F.
11 hours working
8 hours sleeping
1 hour for commute, showering, etc.
4 hours free time every day
weekends off

That's my schedule now anyway. I'm also surprised by how many other people chose "I make more than that already."
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
January 22 2009 22:08 GMT
#78
On January 23 2009 06:47 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 05:47 heyoka wrote:
On January 23 2009 05:38 Hans-Titan wrote:
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.


We're not taxed 40% on income.


Heh, I guess you're right. Personally, I don't pay taxes: noone does beneath 42.9k kr, which is roughly 7.6k US $. There are certain fees which add up to a certain percentage taxation for this bracket (don't remember the actual number but it's low), but the bottomline is that for the lowest percentage the tax burden is minimal. Above an annual income of 50k $ a year the taxes are high tho, at least 40% as you point it. But a McDonalds employee would never have to pay 40% in taxes. The point I'm trying to make is that noone can make a living of 7.5$/h despite paying no taxes whatsoever, assuming an average 37h work-week.

That also depends on living costs in the country you are staying in. For instance, in SA if you were to make 7.5$ per hour, and work a normal 40 hour week you'd make roughly $1200 per month. You can easily get a fairly nice room in a commune for $150-200 per month, or a rent a crappy flat in a slummy area for roughly the same. If you are willing to pay around $300 p/m you could live in a decent flat with a flatmate. That leaves you $900 for the rest of the month. Living reasonably well will cost you about $180 p/m, leaving you with $720 of which about $100 would go to petrol. So:

Flat: $300
Groceries: $180
Petrol: $100
Spending Money: $620!

Obviously getting stuff like medical aid and insurance will drain that $620 very quickly, but it's more than possible to survive on that in SA. Our maid gets paid around $600 per month for 10 hours of work a day, 5 days a week (a salary which is above the average, average maids get paid between $300 and $350 a month) and she is the sole provider for 2 children from that.

It's all a matter of perspective.
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
January 22 2009 22:11 GMT
#79
On January 23 2009 05:38 Hans-Titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 04:43 LuckyFool wrote:
Minimum wage is under 7 dollars an hour I believe, at least for most parts of the US.



That is just grotesque. Minimum wage in Denmark is arond 10$ for people under 18 and around double that for people above 18. I make 23$/h doing dishes at a restaurant. Working for such low wages is just absurd and I honestly don't see how you can make a living of such a low income.

do you seriously get 23$/h doing dishes? That's more than like half the US population makes. Hell, I think thats more than what half of US HOUSEHOLDS make.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 22:16:10
January 22 2009 22:15 GMT
#80
My prediction is this dude will write a book on this win or lose, and make tons of money in the process. I think the story behind this little bet is really interesting.
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