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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
March 26 2009 00:31 GMT
#1641
On March 26 2009 08:27 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 07:00 Kentor wrote:
wtf alyson is not hot. ciji is hot. just look at their figures yo!


Alyson got curves

yes so do fat people
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 26 2009 00:33 GMT
#1642
On March 26 2009 09:31 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 08:27 Zoler wrote:
On March 26 2009 07:00 Kentor wrote:
wtf alyson is not hot. ciji is hot. just look at their figures yo!


Alyson got curves

yes so do fat people

If curves aren't enough, a facial comparison renders one as a FAS sufferer and the other as a normal human being. Alyson ftw.
Peace~
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 00:37:39
March 26 2009 00:37 GMT
#1643
On March 26 2009 09:07 Shivaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 05:01 DhakhaR wrote:
On March 26 2009 04:34 motbob wrote:
On March 26 2009 04:22 DhakhaR wrote:
Like many people posting here, I am disappointed in the quality of play we have been seeing. Some blame has to be place at the feet of the producers, as the format is pretty terrible:

Eliminations are likely to be the worst player vs and equally bad player or someone much better than them. This results in noob vs noob or just a noob stomp.*

*+ Show Spoiler +
when i say 'noob' i mean in the sense of that game, irrelevant of other gaming strengths.


The Isolation challenges are pretty suspect aswell. The VF5 challenge agaiinst the computers was just silly, and no real test of skill. The PGR laps didnt start with a rolling start as far as i can tell, making the first lap pretty much void.

Additionally, the gamers picked for the show all seem to be focused on one game/genre. Furthermore we have yet to see a competitor playing thier chosen game/genre and stepping it up. I mean no offense to StarSlayer but from the clips shown on the RB2 episode the level of play wasnt that amazing. This may have been down to the editing or whatnot, but a rhythm game expert should not be dropping multiplyers on 'Come out and Play'.

This week i was disappointed that Alyson went home as i was eager to see if she really could shine on Halo 3, as its one of my favorite games and I follow the pro circuit so I would be able to spot if they were actually good. Jamal wasnt great at PGR and considering his speciality is billed as 'fighting games' he wasnt great at VF5 either.
In terms of PGR, I didnt see one perfect corner. Again this may come down to editing and the terrible Elimination format, but i really expected better.

/rant

If you want to find out if it's editing or not, just play a few games with one of the people involved. They seem pretty friendly and would probably be willing to play a few rounds of PGR4 or Halo with you.


I hope my post didnt come off the wrong way. I'm not attempting to say that i could take down this competition (although I'd LOVE a shot haha).

I'm mainly just annoyed at the producers. considering the show is the Ultimate Gamer, a very small portion of the show is based on games and like Luddite said, considering its the search for the best all round gamer there are some terrible performances.

Concerning actually playing with them, I would love to. Imo you get better when you lose, so if i am really outclassed then at least i'll learn something.

for those interested in H3, here is Alysons profile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/RankHistory.aspx?player=Nin9tyNin9

She has a high rank and progressed quickly which is impressive, although it doesnt show the game with her highst skill. I'm guessing its Team Swat, given her high Battle Rifle percentage.


Rather disappointed after looking at those stats after Alyson claimed she "destorys". Having more death than kills is not very good at all.

Anyone who has played Halo 3 knows the ranking system is not very accurate and having a high rank and playing against someone high rank does not in anyway mean you are good and/or you are playing someone very good. All it takes to reach high ranks is playing time.

If anyone actually cares here is my account when I played Halo 3 casually with my friends when they forced me into buying that game. (Note: I am not bragging about my Halo "skills" at all, infact my stats are pretty bad as well considering the online difficulty of that game)

http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=The Shivaz



yeah, i agree that the ranking system is not perfect, although she has got there through 'highest skill' rather than just mass games.
but like you said 0.98 K/D isnt great. She would probably 'destroy' alot of the rest who dont know how to BR, although i think Mark and Jamal know what they are doing. We shall see though, hopefully next episode. We arent gonna be seeing any clutch sniping though lol.

Your stats are pretty nice.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 26 2009 00:38 GMT
#1644
is PGR4 like nonexistent? i tried to look up records for the maps they played online to see if they came anywhere close (doubt it since i don't think they knew about wallbouncing or shift glitching even if that guy did tell ciji and mark about it) but i found nothing T_T

anyone that knows something about PGR4 care to share as to how good/terrible their times were?
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
March 26 2009 01:14 GMT
#1645
Good show last night, I'm pretty stoked for some FPS. Also was kinda worried when that bitch was telling the asian (can't remember all their names sorry) to pick Geoff to go into the sudden death round.
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
March 26 2009 01:14 GMT
#1646
Great show this week. Hope to see Geoff for many more weeks!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
March 26 2009 01:20 GMT
#1647
On March 26 2009 09:07 Shivaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 05:01 DhakhaR wrote:
On March 26 2009 04:34 motbob wrote:
On March 26 2009 04:22 DhakhaR wrote:
Like many people posting here, I am disappointed in the quality of play we have been seeing. Some blame has to be place at the feet of the producers, as the format is pretty terrible:

Eliminations are likely to be the worst player vs and equally bad player or someone much better than them. This results in noob vs noob or just a noob stomp.*

*+ Show Spoiler +
when i say 'noob' i mean in the sense of that game, irrelevant of other gaming strengths.


The Isolation challenges are pretty suspect aswell. The VF5 challenge agaiinst the computers was just silly, and no real test of skill. The PGR laps didnt start with a rolling start as far as i can tell, making the first lap pretty much void.

Additionally, the gamers picked for the show all seem to be focused on one game/genre. Furthermore we have yet to see a competitor playing thier chosen game/genre and stepping it up. I mean no offense to StarSlayer but from the clips shown on the RB2 episode the level of play wasnt that amazing. This may have been down to the editing or whatnot, but a rhythm game expert should not be dropping multiplyers on 'Come out and Play'.

This week i was disappointed that Alyson went home as i was eager to see if she really could shine on Halo 3, as its one of my favorite games and I follow the pro circuit so I would be able to spot if they were actually good. Jamal wasnt great at PGR and considering his speciality is billed as 'fighting games' he wasnt great at VF5 either.
In terms of PGR, I didnt see one perfect corner. Again this may come down to editing and the terrible Elimination format, but i really expected better.

/rant

If you want to find out if it's editing or not, just play a few games with one of the people involved. They seem pretty friendly and would probably be willing to play a few rounds of PGR4 or Halo with you.


I hope my post didnt come off the wrong way. I'm not attempting to say that i could take down this competition (although I'd LOVE a shot haha).

I'm mainly just annoyed at the producers. considering the show is the Ultimate Gamer, a very small portion of the show is based on games and like Luddite said, considering its the search for the best all round gamer there are some terrible performances.

Concerning actually playing with them, I would love to. Imo you get better when you lose, so if i am really outclassed then at least i'll learn something.

for those interested in H3, here is Alysons profile
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/RankHistory.aspx?player=Nin9tyNin9

She has a high rank and progressed quickly which is impressive, although it doesnt show the game with her highst skill. I'm guessing its Team Swat, given her high Battle Rifle percentage.


Rather disappointed after looking at those stats after Alyson claimed she "destorys". Having more death than kills is not very good at all.

Anyone who has played Halo 3 knows the ranking system is not very accurate and having a high rank and playing against someone high rank does not in anyway mean you are good and/or you are playing someone very good. All it takes to reach high ranks is playing time.

If anyone actually cares here is my account when I played Halo 3 casually with my friends when they forced me into buying that game. (Note: I am not bragging about my Halo "skills" at all, infact my stats are pretty bad as well considering the online difficulty of that game)

http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=The Shivaz


In her audition, she said she used to play Q3 on LAN with her family, but something tells me she has no idea what RA3 or CPMA is.
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aznwolfstein
Profile Joined January 2008
United States35 Posts
March 26 2009 01:32 GMT
#1648
I thought this show sounded pretty cool so I tried watching the first episode on hulu and realized it's nothing like what I expected. While most are good at a certain genre of gaming or even a certain game, none of them are even close to the top of any game (at least it doesn't seem like they are).

And for Alyson, her H3 stats aren't really impressive. I would say a very large number of people are better than her. Plus, Halo 3 is much more of a team game.
As a side note: here is an account of arguably the best player right now (at least the highest rated) http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=T2 is RIPPIN
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=Nin9tyNin9&player2=T2 is RIPPIN

I suppose as a show that's trying to showcase many different types of games, it could be worse but it's still not really worth watching in my opinion.
fat people are hard to kidnap
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 26 2009 01:42 GMT
#1649
On March 26 2009 10:32 aznwolfstein wrote:
I thought this show sounded pretty cool so I tried watching the first episode on hulu and realized it's nothing like what I expected. While most are good at a certain genre of gaming or even a certain game, none of them are even close to the top of any game (at least it doesn't seem like they are).

And for Alyson, her H3 stats aren't really impressive. I would say a very large number of people are better than her. Plus, Halo 3 is much more of a team game.
As a side note: here is an account of arguably the best player right now (at least the highest rated) http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=T2 is RIPPIN
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=Nin9tyNin9&player2=T2 is RIPPIN

I suppose as a show that's trying to showcase many different types of games, it could be worse but it's still not really worth watching in my opinion.


i agree. the only reason most of us are watching the show is that inc is on it. i wonder how the ratings are doing on the whole.
:O
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
March 26 2009 01:50 GMT
#1650
On March 26 2009 10:32 aznwolfstein wrote:
I thought this show sounded pretty cool so I tried watching the first episode on hulu and realized it's nothing like what I expected. While most are good at a certain genre of gaming or even a certain game, none of them are even close to the top of any game (at least it doesn't seem like they are).

And for Alyson, her H3 stats aren't really impressive. I would say a very large number of people are better than her. Plus, Halo 3 is much more of a team game.
As a side note: here is an account of arguably the best player right now (at least the highest rated) http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=T2 is RIPPIN
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=Nin9tyNin9&player2=T2 is RIPPIN

I suppose as a show that's trying to showcase many different types of games, it could be worse but it's still not really worth watching in my opinion.


Lol, obviously she was never going to match up to Tsquared. I just wanted to see if she could actually BR.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
March 26 2009 01:50 GMT
#1651
When you compare it to other shows though, it's pretty cool.
Much less cheesy than AI that's for sure.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
March 26 2009 01:58 GMT
#1652
i guess most people haven't ever watched reality television, because obviously the challenges and skills aren't going to be top tier. you watch these types of shows to see people interacting with one another, often in hilarious / dramatic situations. if you want to see high level gaming go watch proleague.
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Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
March 26 2009 02:01 GMT
#1653
I miss Kelly. =(
So wait? I'm bad? =(
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
March 26 2009 02:23 GMT
#1654
i missed episode 3 and i am really afraid to search through this thread because i am afraid there are no spoilers. sorry im sure this question has been asked alot but is there any where i can see epi 3. on a side note gogogogogogogo iNcontrol fighting!
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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
March 26 2009 02:54 GMT
#1655
On March 26 2009 11:23 HatchetWound wrote:
i missed episode 3 and i am really afraid to search through this thread because i am afraid there are no spoilers. sorry im sure this question has been asked alot but is there any where i can see epi 3. on a side note gogogogogogogo iNcontrol fighting!

Hulu works if you're in the US.
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zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
March 26 2009 03:03 GMT
#1656
On March 26 2009 10:42 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2009 10:32 aznwolfstein wrote:
I thought this show sounded pretty cool so I tried watching the first episode on hulu and realized it's nothing like what I expected. While most are good at a certain genre of gaming or even a certain game, none of them are even close to the top of any game (at least it doesn't seem like they are).

And for Alyson, her H3 stats aren't really impressive. I would say a very large number of people are better than her. Plus, Halo 3 is much more of a team game.
As a side note: here is an account of arguably the best player right now (at least the highest rated) http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=T2 is RIPPIN
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=Nin9tyNin9&player2=T2 is RIPPIN

I suppose as a show that's trying to showcase many different types of games, it could be worse but it's still not really worth watching in my opinion.


i agree. the only reason most of us are watching the show is that inc is on it. i wonder how the ratings are doing on the whole.


who could possibly know about this show? AND its on sci-fi (sy fy my bad LOL)
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
March 26 2009 03:06 GMT
#1657
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 26 2009 04:18 GMT
#1658
We eat rocks and shit apm.

And drink Boxerthirst.
Peace~
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
March 26 2009 04:38 GMT
#1659
I don't know why I have to repeat this, but Swoozie, Prodigy, Ciji and Incontrol are the only people on that show that have ever won anything ever. Amy is famous for her contribution to female gaming in the PMS clan so I respect them giving her a spot.

Dante is a video game tester, nuff said.
Mark is another guy who has never won anything, but he seems like a cool dude and he's done well so far.
Chelsea is decent at Quake and CS from the videos I've seen, but she's certainly not going to beat any of the guys at the top.
Jamal is a nobody. He says he's a SC2 champ? I can name everyone in the soul calibur community worth a damn from SC1 to SC4 and he isn't any of them.


Ciji is the shit at rhythm games. Everyone knows who she is in that community. I've got a buddy that plays a bunch there and he loves her.

Swoozie is hilarious and also awesome. Also his myspace is maybe one of the most well designed websites ever for one dude. He's also really fucking good at DoA.

Rob is legit but he's overhyped on the show. He's got skills, but he's not at the top of any particular game. He's more the kind of guy this show should have looked for, but not as far as his "look" goes at least.

Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4903 Posts
March 26 2009 11:34 GMT
#1660
Well, here's my opinion too, now that everyone can freely judge people on.

Ep. 3 spoilers below:
+ Show Spoiler +
I think iNc wasn't practicing PGR4 because he was kinda sure Dante wouldn't pick him, and even if he does the worst in the Isolation Challenge, he can't be last overall (maybe they even had a pact about it, which was cut out - just guesswork). I mean, come on. After Dante going like "hey ima rock this shit, I've been drifting and my specialty is racing games" then failing totally, only to get carried by iNc? It would be shameless, even for him to pick Geoff - especially since he's worried about other competitors, namely Jamal and Robert.

Second reason would be the emotional loss of Kelly, of course. I don't think that part is (too) overhyped on the show. If you knew point one, and added point two, you get point three: iNc doesn't practice but recollects himself.

About the questionable skill-displays. You try performing in front of that much people with 100k bucks at stake. Hell I've been to many a WCG prelims in front of a big audience, and it gets to me - no doubt it would get to you, scrubby casuals as much as you talk yourself up because of SC, or whatever else home results you have. And anyways, at least a handful of them are legit. Especially Robert and Dante (though nerves get to him a lot) seem to be good all-around gamers. Ciji seems to learn really fast, and that deserves props (I mean, look at Mark failing Isolation, at least Ciji could put the practice into reality).

Geoff doesn't seem to be a good all-around gamer, but he makes up for it with destroying IRL challanges so far. And I think these genres were his weak spots as well (though I think it's natural that a serious BW player has holes in overall gaming skills, given how much practice our beloved game needs). Maybe he'll do better in game challenges later on, too. At least he wasn't picked up as a threat by anyone yet, even though they should notice (I don't think Chelsea wanted her out because she saw him as a threat, more like she feels uncomfortable near her - remember when she jumped away in Ep 2 when iNc was celebrating )

I think noone sees him as a threat so far because the contestants are solely focused on the gaming aspect of this show. The thing is, if you carry your weight in IRL challenge, and you aren't making anyone angry, it's not a problem if you're not so good at the so far displayed games, you can make it without being noticed. That's how iNc's rollin' so far.


Oh well, that kinda got long, but there I gave my honest opinion.

As much as I don't like Robert so far, I think he would be the best suited for winning this, as he's the closest to being ultimately all-round. Second would be Jamal, and the third would be Dante.

But of course, we're rooting for Geoff, aren't we?
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