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On December 07 2008 05:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:21 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does it mention anything about the stratification of wealth between charity-giving democrats and charity-giving republicans?
Because the data I've seen suggests that more liberals give to charity in less amounts, while percentage-wise, less conservatives give to charity in larger amounts. What data do you have? http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/02/19/Poor-Give-More-to-CharityThis doesn't mention anything about political parties, but it's not the study I wanted to cite, either. I don't have the original data, so I'll withdraw my claim.
if it makes you feel better I remember seeing a summary of that study before too
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On December 07 2008 05:24 dronebabo wrote:
no.
ZING! REBUTTED!
Come on, I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion here.
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I think its because you are around people from different socio economic classes than yourself and get a differing opinion.
What do you mean you have a different view than me? Wow you dont seem like a fucking evil bastard like my church said..... maybe ill have to think over my belief system.
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On December 07 2008 05:31 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On December 07 2008 05:21 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does it mention anything about the stratification of wealth between charity-giving democrats and charity-giving republicans?
Because the data I've seen suggests that more liberals give to charity in less amounts, while percentage-wise, less conservatives give to charity in larger amounts. What data do you have? http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/02/19/Poor-Give-More-to-CharityThis doesn't mention anything about political parties, but it's not the study I wanted to cite, either. I don't have the original data, so I'll withdraw my claim. if it makes you feel better I remember seeing a summary of that study before too
I feel great! I just wish I carried an arsenal of legitimate, peer-reviewed journal articles to whip out whenever I got into a political debate.
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On December 07 2008 05:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:21 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does it mention anything about the stratification of wealth between charity-giving democrats and charity-giving republicans?
Because the data I've seen suggests that more liberals give to charity in less amounts, while percentage-wise, less conservatives give to charity in larger amounts. What data do you have? http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/02/19/Poor-Give-More-to-CharityThis doesn't mention anything about political parties, but it's not the study I wanted to cite, either. I don't have the original data, so I'll withdraw my claim.
Interesting article, thanks for sharing. It kind of flies in the face of people who try to say that religion is damaging or a negative thing.
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On December 07 2008 05:23 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:14 dronebabo wrote:On December 07 2008 04:05 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 04:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
He does have a point, though. Most other countries have stuff like free education and free healthcare. And free lunch!  WoooOOOOoooo! (You'd better recognize what I am saying) amen lol @ liberals being more concerned with the welfare of others please Well, I mean, this type of broad, sweeping generalization is really bad, but I see liberals marching for peace, equal rights and sustainable agriculture, whereas the only conservative demonstrations I've seen in the past 6 months have had signs like "GOD HATES FAGS" and "FAGS BURN IN HELL".
On December 07 2008 05:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:ZING! REBUTTED! Come on, I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion here.
lol
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On December 07 2008 05:34 Savio wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On December 07 2008 05:21 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does it mention anything about the stratification of wealth between charity-giving democrats and charity-giving republicans?
Because the data I've seen suggests that more liberals give to charity in less amounts, while percentage-wise, less conservatives give to charity in larger amounts. What data do you have? http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/02/19/Poor-Give-More-to-CharityThis doesn't mention anything about political parties, but it's not the study I wanted to cite, either. I don't have the original data, so I'll withdraw my claim. Interesting article, thanks for sharing. It kind of flies in the face of people who try to say that religion is damaging or a negative thing.
LOL?
of course religion has its good aspects, it gives people hope who otherwise might not have any. It also can encourage people who otherwise would not give to the church to give to the church.
It also can promote negative views with horrible horrible consequences. Such as
GOD HATES FAGS or "I dont believe in global warming, god put the earth here for us, we dont need to take care of it" or "Jesus is coming back, lets back israel 100% regardless of their actions because we want to be on Jesus' side"
or "They dont believe in what we believe, KILL THEM"
or "His Father doesnt believe in the space god like us, lets ostracize his children and not let him play with ours!"
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title should have been "Liberal Press bullshit"
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On December 07 2008 05:38 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:34 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On December 07 2008 05:21 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does it mention anything about the stratification of wealth between charity-giving democrats and charity-giving republicans?
Because the data I've seen suggests that more liberals give to charity in less amounts, while percentage-wise, less conservatives give to charity in larger amounts. What data do you have? http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/02/19/Poor-Give-More-to-CharityThis doesn't mention anything about political parties, but it's not the study I wanted to cite, either. I don't have the original data, so I'll withdraw my claim. Interesting article, thanks for sharing. It kind of flies in the face of people who try to say that religion is damaging or a negative thing. LOL? of course religion has its good aspects, it gives people hope who otherwise might not have any. It also can encourage people who otherwise would not give to the church to give to the church. It also can promote negative views with horrible horrible consequences. Such as GOD HATES FAGS or "I dont believe in global warming, god put the earth here for us, we dont need to take care of it" or "Jesus is coming back, lets back israel 100% regardless of their actions because we want to be on Jesus' side" or "They dont believe in what we believe, KILL THEM" or "His Father doesnt believe in the space god like us, lets ostracize his children and not let him play with ours!"
I'm not a conservative, but it's posts like these that make me want to be one.
Before you spout out ignorant claims, try doing some research on what Christians actually believe.
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Yeah. I'll say it again. The notion that we have a liberal press is absurd.
It might not be a conservative press, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere near the extreme left.
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On December 07 2008 05:41 strongwind wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:38 Sadist wrote:On December 07 2008 05:34 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On December 07 2008 05:21 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does it mention anything about the stratification of wealth between charity-giving democrats and charity-giving republicans?
Because the data I've seen suggests that more liberals give to charity in less amounts, while percentage-wise, less conservatives give to charity in larger amounts. What data do you have? http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/02/19/Poor-Give-More-to-CharityThis doesn't mention anything about political parties, but it's not the study I wanted to cite, either. I don't have the original data, so I'll withdraw my claim. Interesting article, thanks for sharing. It kind of flies in the face of people who try to say that religion is damaging or a negative thing. LOL? of course religion has its good aspects, it gives people hope who otherwise might not have any. It also can encourage people who otherwise would not give to the church to give to the church. It also can promote negative views with horrible horrible consequences. Such as GOD HATES FAGS or "I dont believe in global warming, god put the earth here for us, we dont need to take care of it" or "Jesus is coming back, lets back israel 100% regardless of their actions because we want to be on Jesus' side" or "They dont believe in what we believe, KILL THEM" or "His Father doesnt believe in the space god like us, lets ostracize his children and not let him play with ours!" I'm not a conservative, but it's posts like these that make me want to be one.
was anything I said a lie, or unfeasable? I dont think so
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On December 07 2008 05:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Yeah. I'll say it again. The notion that we have a liberal press is absurd.
It might not be a conservative press, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere near the extreme left.
Have you backed that up with anything though? We have already read data analysis from multiple sources and 95% of people who think the media is biased (which is the majority--see the OP) also think it is biased toward the democrat/liberal.
I guess you are in the 30% who think it isn't biased, but most Americans disagree.
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On December 07 2008 05:43 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:41 strongwind wrote:On December 07 2008 05:38 Sadist wrote:On December 07 2008 05:34 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:28 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On December 07 2008 05:21 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does it mention anything about the stratification of wealth between charity-giving democrats and charity-giving republicans?
Because the data I've seen suggests that more liberals give to charity in less amounts, while percentage-wise, less conservatives give to charity in larger amounts. What data do you have? http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/02/19/Poor-Give-More-to-CharityThis doesn't mention anything about political parties, but it's not the study I wanted to cite, either. I don't have the original data, so I'll withdraw my claim. Interesting article, thanks for sharing. It kind of flies in the face of people who try to say that religion is damaging or a negative thing. LOL? of course religion has its good aspects, it gives people hope who otherwise might not have any. It also can encourage people who otherwise would not give to the church to give to the church. It also can promote negative views with horrible horrible consequences. Such as GOD HATES FAGS or "I dont believe in global warming, god put the earth here for us, we dont need to take care of it" or "Jesus is coming back, lets back israel 100% regardless of their actions because we want to be on Jesus' side" or "They dont believe in what we believe, KILL THEM" or "His Father doesnt believe in the space god like us, lets ostracize his children and not let him play with ours!" I'm not a conservative, but it's posts like these that make me want to be one. was anything I said a lie, or unfeasable? I dont think so
You are one of the most anti-religion poster on TL (along with Idra). I think that is what he is reacting against, but that's just a guess of mine.
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On December 07 2008 05:45 Savio wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Yeah. I'll say it again. The notion that we have a liberal press is absurd.
It might not be a conservative press, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere near the extreme left. Have you backed that up with anything though? We have already read data analysis from multiple sources and 95% of people who think the media is biased (which is the majority--see the OP) also think it is biased toward the democrat/liberal. I guess you are in the 30% who think it isn't biased, but most Americans disagree.
What's interesting is that that figure corresponds pretty well with the percentage of Americans who have gone through higher education. You have a point when you say that people who go to college tend to become strongly liberal.
I mean, not that education is a bad thing...
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On December 07 2008 05:38 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:34 Savio wrote:
Interesting article, thanks for sharing. It kind of flies in the face of people who try to say that religion is damaging or a negative thing. LOL? of course religion has its good aspects, it gives people hope who otherwise might not have any. It also can encourage people who otherwise would not give to the church to give to the church. It also can promote negative views with horrible horrible consequences. Such as GOD HATES FAGS or "I dont believe in global warming, god put the earth here for us, we dont need to take care of it" or "Jesus is coming back, lets back israel 100% regardless of their actions because we want to be on Jesus' side" or "They dont believe in what we believe, KILL THEM" or "His Father doesnt believe in the space god like us, lets ostracize his children and not let him play with ours!"
Wait, why is giving to the church a good aspect of religion? For the matter, I can't see why giving people false hope is a good aspect either.
Unless you were being sarcastic, of course.
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Haha, I'm kidding. I gotta go now, but it's been fun talking with you.
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lol
You missunderstand the goal of unbiased media coverage. The idea is not to tread the finest line of political correctness and equal positive-negative press to both parties, but to reflect TRUTH. If there are more Conservative senators who are caught in gay sex scandals and yet both parties neceive equal negative press, the media is clearly biased for the right.
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On December 07 2008 05:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:45 Savio wrote:On December 07 2008 05:41 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Yeah. I'll say it again. The notion that we have a liberal press is absurd.
It might not be a conservative press, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere near the extreme left. Have you backed that up with anything though? We have already read data analysis from multiple sources and 95% of people who think the media is biased (which is the majority--see the OP) also think it is biased toward the democrat/liberal. I guess you are in the 30% who think it isn't biased, but most Americans disagree. What's interesting is that that figure corresponds pretty well with the percentage of Americans who have gone through higher education. You have a point when you say that people who go to college tend to become strongly liberal. I mean, not that education is a bad thing...
Correct, education is a good thing. I have a LOT of years of education so I have been surrounded by liberal ideas for a LONG time and have had to evaluate all of my opinions very closely and be able to defend them. I'm all for education but I wish that professors in the humanities would cool their propaganda.
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On December 07 2008 05:48 QibingZero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2008 05:38 Sadist wrote:On December 07 2008 05:34 Savio wrote:
Interesting article, thanks for sharing. It kind of flies in the face of people who try to say that religion is damaging or a negative thing. LOL? of course religion has its good aspects, it gives people hope who otherwise might not have any. It also can encourage people who otherwise would not give to the church to give to the church. It also can promote negative views with horrible horrible consequences. Such as GOD HATES FAGS or "I dont believe in global warming, god put the earth here for us, we dont need to take care of it" or "Jesus is coming back, lets back israel 100% regardless of their actions because we want to be on Jesus' side" or "They dont believe in what we believe, KILL THEM" or "His Father doesnt believe in the space god like us, lets ostracize his children and not let him play with ours!" Wait, why is giving to the church a good aspect of religion? For the matter, I can't see why giving people false hope is a good aspect either. Unless you were being sarcastic, of course.
I mean, say someone is living in a war torn country or something and their family has been murdered... or they have aids or something. I dont see religion (as long as it isnt fanatical) as that harmful, if it gives them hope and a will to live then I think all is fine. I dont believe false hope is necessarily a bad thing either.
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Have you backed that up with anything though? Please point me to the nearest Marxist Channel.
We have already read data analysis from multiple sources and 95% of people who think the media is biased (which is the majority--see the OP) also think it is biased toward the democrat/liberal.
I guess you are in the 30% who think it isn't biased, but most Americans disagree. What Americans believe is automatically true? Good. Time to stock up on freedom fries.
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