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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 22:51:17
November 15 2008 22:50 GMT
#1
Well, we're on fire again (official State of Emergency)

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Brea Fire

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Sylmar area

Here's a thread to post collective thoughts, updated news, etc. Hopefully it won't be as big as last time's June fires, but to get the ball rolling here are some useful resources. I certainly don't know everything yet or have access to all the knowledge on the fires, so feel free to contribute as well (the last thread was really informative with a lot of people providing great resources etc).

Fires are currently active in Montecito, Yorba Linda/Brea, Sylmar, and probably more places more north but I'm not too sure.

LA Times' Google Maps:
http://maps.google.com/maps/user?uid=109103557032275200740&hl=en&gl=us

LA Times' Evacuation + Road Closure information:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-sayrefire-googlemap,0,6804603.htmlstory
the PUNisher
Profile Joined August 2008
Romania21 Posts
November 15 2008 22:52 GMT
#2
i see this may be a hot topic.
Drop that pun and put your hands behind your head!!
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 22:55:29
November 15 2008 22:54 GMT
#3
Those are some pretty disturbing images, the second one looks like the end of the freaking world. Sucks that this type of thing seems to occur year after year after year. =(

edit: Wow PUNisher, I don't know whether to love you or hate you. Nice theme. haha.
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
November 15 2008 22:59 GMT
#4
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 23:27:55
November 15 2008 23:14 GMT
#5
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floods, fire and droughts, are god's way of showing displeasure
new orleans was flooded, now california burns, where will the drought come?
god does not like sin..
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I am in a strange a mood, eat shit if u don't like it..



# check this site if u truly want to see the scale:
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/socal_wildfires_oct07.html
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
November 15 2008 23:18 GMT
#6
There's a fire like a half mile away from my house right now...

Luckily its really small and it's not burning down any homes.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 15 2008 23:20 GMT
#7
So many fires in california, its so sad.

How much money does that state lose? It must be in billions
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 15 2008 23:21 GMT
#8
i live very close to these fires, about 15 mins drive, and i have family near that area
so many brush fires, damn it
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
November 15 2008 23:25 GMT
#9
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
November 15 2008 23:31 GMT
#10
How do these get started/sustain themselves in November?
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
November 15 2008 23:37 GMT
#11
On November 16 2008 08:31 FzeroXx wrote:
How do these get started/sustain themselves in November?


Santa Ana winds were blowing at like 70-100mph or something really crazy like that, which fan the fires really well. That's really the crux of socal's fire problems, having sick winds to fuel it.
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-15 23:39:39
November 15 2008 23:38 GMT
#12
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
November 15 2008 23:43 GMT
#13
On November 16 2008 08:31 FzeroXx wrote:
How do these get started/sustain themselves in November?

temperatures are still in the 80s and 90s in socal
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nujabes
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States286 Posts
November 15 2008 23:48 GMT
#14
i live near the yorba linda area. luckily im at my friends house at irvine but all the major freeways are closed. there is a fire that is currently moving towards riverside as well. as long as theres strong winds and this dry weather i think the fires will be just as bad as last years
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
November 15 2008 23:58 GMT
#15
On November 16 2008 08:25 Wasabi wrote:
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On November 16 2008 08:20 il0seonpurpose wrote:
So many fires in california, its so sad.

How much money does that state lose? It must be in billions


Solution: Move to North California. Virtually no wildfires, less pollution, less illegal immigrants, though San Francisco is literally gay.

I see no downside to this.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
November 16 2008 00:06 GMT
#16
One of my ex's was originally from California. I feel sorta bad, because just a few weeks ago we were teasing each other, and I definitely said something along the lines of "I hope ur state catches fire again," to him.

Oops.
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Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
November 16 2008 00:11 GMT
#17
I live in SoCal (LA area). The smoke + ashes are near and it was hot all day. I can't complain though. The people that live closer to it have it much harder.

Fall Rally for Key Club (High School Kiwanis) was supposed to happen to day. It was canceled because of these fires. D:

I hope you're all safe. <3
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
November 16 2008 00:12 GMT
#18
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
November 16 2008 00:33 GMT
#19
Needs more pictures.
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renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-16 00:39:51
November 16 2008 00:37 GMT
#20
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
November 16 2008 00:43 GMT
#21
On November 16 2008 09:33 MYM.Testie wrote:
Needs more pictures.


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-sayrefire15-2008nov15-pg,0,4733646.photogallery?index=1

la times' collection

Dunno why it seems like i have a hard on for the LA Times in particular, they just seem to have the most readily accessible stuff :p
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 16 2008 00:50 GMT
#22
Looks shopped...
No I'm never serious.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
November 16 2008 00:58 GMT
#23
I can smell the burning in the air right now, as well as the heat, and I'm far away from the actual fire.

damn fire seasons
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LOcDowN
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1015 Posts
November 16 2008 01:03 GMT
#24
I live in Anaheim, the air quality right now is horrible. It's also very hot. The only thing to do is close all door and windows and turn on the fan/air conditioner.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
November 16 2008 01:13 GMT
#25
On November 16 2008 10:03 LOcDowN wrote:
I live in Anaheim, the air quality right now is horrible. It's also very hot. The only thing to do is close all door and windows and turn on the fan/air conditioner.


That's the opposite of where I live. It's freezing cold so the heater is on. The air quality is fantastic from all of our trees and dry cold weather. At least we both keep our doors closed .

Hope the fires don't claim too many people's houses.
StrikeFLOW
Profile Joined July 2008
United States369 Posts
November 16 2008 01:39 GMT
#26
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From my house.

(Notice the man mowing his lawn. gg)
"Life is a dream from which we all must wake before we can dream again"
triflejack
Profile Joined November 2008
Romania25 Posts
November 16 2008 01:49 GMT
#27
On November 16 2008 07:52 the PUNisher wrote:
i see this may be a hot topic.


Oh.. I see it's a pun
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
November 16 2008 01:56 GMT
#28
On November 16 2008 10:39 StrikeFLOW wrote:
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From my house.

(Notice the man mowing his lawn. gg)


lol gg
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StrikeFLOW
Profile Joined July 2008
United States369 Posts
November 16 2008 02:10 GMT
#29
Small update:

I have friends from the Anaheim Hills area... some have lost their homes.... Im really worried now, though im pretty far from the fire (Placentia).
"Life is a dream from which we all must wake before we can dream again"
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
November 16 2008 02:17 GMT
#30
man thats terrible but the sky looks so beautiful

incredible
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-16 02:23:43
November 16 2008 02:22 GMT
#31
Thats what happens when you MC your firebats.

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But seriously those poor trees
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HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
November 16 2008 02:29 GMT
#32
On November 16 2008 08:25 Wasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2008 08:20 il0seonpurpose wrote:
So many fires in california, its so sad.

How much money does that state lose? It must be in billions


Solution: Move to North California. Virtually no wildfires, less pollution, less illegal immigrants, though San Francisco is literally gay.

And contribute to White Flight?

NEVAR!

Oh and we're always on fire. And it's always rich people's houses, who are always insured up the ass.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
turk
Profile Joined July 2006
United States383 Posts
November 16 2008 02:54 GMT
#33
dang, i saw the houses burning on tv. i can't image how i would react if i saw my house burning to the ground. but i would be fine i guess as long as i got all my family photos and family members out. those are priceless. dang.
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StrikeFLOW
Profile Joined July 2008
United States369 Posts
November 16 2008 02:55 GMT
#34
[image loading]


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Some pictures if you guys are interested.

The ash is all over the place, even though im about 5 miles from the fire at the moment.

The smoke darkened the skies so heavily that the street lights turned on.
"Life is a dream from which we all must wake before we can dream again"
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
November 16 2008 03:23 GMT
#35
i hope rheal is okay!
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 16 2008 03:30 GMT
#36
is there any chance that someone can find a list of the highways that are closed down? One of my friends just called me trying to get from irvine to northern la- apparently at least highway 91 is closed down.

I'm in irvine, other than the air being dry, everything is good. by tomorrow all of the smoke and ash should get here><;;
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CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
November 16 2008 03:33 GMT
#37
its hot as shit down here and the air is very heavy (i'm about 10-20 miles away).

my boss lives in that area, hopefully he'll be ok
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MyCrow
Profile Joined March 2007
Korea (South)248 Posts
November 16 2008 03:58 GMT
#38
Damn it looks crazy. Hope everyone is alright.
Glider
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1353 Posts
November 16 2008 04:03 GMT
#39
man, must be pretty scary. Hope for the best
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-16 04:14:35
November 16 2008 04:13 GMT
#40
On November 16 2008 08:25 Wasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2008 08:20 il0seonpurpose wrote:
So many fires in california, its so sad.

How much money does that state lose? It must be in billions


Solution: Move to North California. Virtually no wildfires, less pollution, less illegal immigrants, though San Francisco is literally gay.


NVM read wrong lol
OMG you nasty gurl
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
November 16 2008 04:25 GMT
#41
good god, where exactly are these fires?

today is like the hottest day in November ever,
friggin had to do patio remodeling, weather was killing me.
jayTOH
Profile Joined February 2008
United States23 Posts
November 16 2008 05:09 GMT
#42
The google map link in the OP shows where the fires are and which highways are closed, and is being updated fairly often. Not sure how accurate the locations are, though.

Two days ago while I was in the bathroom taking care of business, my phone rings and the answering machine picks up. It was one of my neighbors calling - "Hello?! Hello? I'm calling to warn you that there's a fire near your place. It's near your backyard. Be careful!"

Now, I live in SE San Diego, but last year even we had ash floating around our streets. At the time, I wasn't aware that there were already fires up north. Knowing what could happen, I was so scared that I got the hell out without cleaning myself up. As I was dashing to my backyard, I was thinking so many things --"Where are the firetrucks? Why can't I hear their sirens? What do I take? Where do I go?" There was, indeed, a fire about 100 yards away. Thankfully, it was a small one, and there was little wind to spread it around as the canyon is all dry brush. It took two firetrucks, two helicopter drops, ~10 firemen, and about 25 minutes to extinguish it. Despite how small it was, I couldn't move or stop watching out of fear. Seeing a fire ablaze so close to your sanctuary is one hell of a scary sight. I heard from my neighbors later in the day that it was a nearby highschool student who started it. Punks.

I can't imagine what the people up north are feeling. I'm praying that it'll all be put out soon, and also for the safety of everyone up there.
LOcDowN
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1015 Posts
November 16 2008 06:42 GMT
#43
^ That is a hardcore story even if it's only started by some kid. I still remember that one San Diego fire, seriously scary.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
November 16 2008 17:04 GMT
#44
My parents are evacuating, in Diamond Bar =/. Looks like the fire from Yorba Linda is reaching the Chino Hills area..
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 16 2008 17:11 GMT
#45
this is why east side > west side

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on a serious note, I really want to see how red the sky is. Whenever my USC and UCLA friends tell me about forest fires I get so curious
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DwmC_Foefen
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Belgium2186 Posts
November 16 2008 17:28 GMT
#46
Makes me appreciate cold, wet, gray belgium -.- :p

I hate natural disasters, if I see one on the news I always feel depressed :p for like... 10mins but yea...
Disasters =/= cool
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
November 16 2008 17:30 GMT
#47
On November 16 2008 07:54 Mikilatov wrote:
Those are some pretty disturbing images, the second one looks like the end of the freaking world. Sucks that this type of thing seems to occur year after year after year. =(

FYI, a number of wildfires start naturally, and in places where they occur regularly, the natural life living there has adapted to it. In fact, in some cases life has evolved to NEED the regular wildfires. E.g. there is a species of tree that reproduces only after a fire: its pinecones are designed to open only after the extreme heat of a fire.

So although this is tragic for humans, it is probably a normal part of the life cycle for the animals and vegetation living there, and may even be necessary for some of them. Kind of like how floods can be very beneficial in nature. So the fact that they occur regularly might actually be a good thing, even if we don't fully understand how.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-16 17:43:57
November 16 2008 17:43 GMT
#48
By the way, where are all the people who posted about Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans, saying the people living there were stupid for building in such a vulnerable place, in a region prone to hurricanes and situated below sea level? And saying that you did not want to waste more tax dollars to help those families rebuild in New Orleans, only to have to rescue them again in the future? Where are you guys now to apply your logic here, to the regular wildfires in Cali?

Anyway, I hope you guys with family in the area will find out that they are safe and sound, and I am sorry for your losses (of houses, etc. assuming everyone evacuates safely).
timchi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States57 Posts
November 16 2008 17:48 GMT
#49
so freaking scary.. cause i live in rowland heights (really small town) and what if the fire comes all the way here from the brea area =O

hope you guys are okay and safee
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44243 Posts
November 16 2008 17:51 GMT
#50


Onion take on the fires.
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Phearlock
Profile Joined December 2007
Norway400 Posts
November 16 2008 18:08 GMT
#51
Picture 29/30 in the LA times link has an almost scary resemblence to some sort of scene right out of fallout 3 >.<

Norway in winter is quite safe though. Hope everyone over in SoCal is alright (doubt it, but can hope for it).
turk
Profile Joined July 2006
United States383 Posts
November 16 2008 18:32 GMT
#52
the F?! that video?! it's too soon to be poking fun. imo. not funny.
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
November 19 2008 16:08 GMT
#53
Apparently out of the 3 fires, 1 was started from a bonfire in a vacant house by students, another from a car possibly.

Silly reasons destroyed so much.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
November 19 2008 16:24 GMT
#54
that shit was due to burn sooner or later anyways
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
November 19 2008 16:28 GMT
#55
On November 17 2008 02:43 Bill307 wrote:
By the way, where are all the people who posted about Hurricane Katrina and New Orleans, saying the people living there were stupid for building in such a vulnerable place, in a region prone to hurricanes and situated below sea level? And saying that you did not want to waste more tax dollars to help those families rebuild in New Orleans, only to have to rescue them again in the future? Where are you guys now to apply your logic here, to the regular wildfires in Cali?

Anyway, I hope you guys with family in the area will find out that they are safe and sound, and I am sorry for your losses (of houses, etc. assuming everyone evacuates safely).

That makes no sense. Hurricanes and shit are act of nature. This fire was started by a kid.
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 19 2008 16:30 GMT
#56
I'm not gonna lie
The sky/scenery looks soooooooooooooooooooo amazing. Beautiful. I really want to see it.
But it really is bad news. I hope it will turn out well...
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Semagdnim
Profile Joined May 2008
United States126 Posts
November 19 2008 19:31 GMT
#57
I'm in Santa Barbara and I could see the fire from my dorm, which was kind of crazy. Luckily, we weren't forced to evacuate, but a lot of the surrounding community was. It does happen every year, so you do kind of become complacent towards it, especially if it's not directly affecting you. Apparently a few of the fires are confirmed as arson, just so you guys know.
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