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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 06 2008 16:48 GMT
#301
actually i responded pointing out a logical flaw in the only actual 'argument' ive seen you make.
then you ignored that and spouted a bunch of bullshit about how your mom likes gays and you're fine with them they just cant get married or have kids.
dumb is pretty fucking polite, youve earned far worse.

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Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
November 06 2008 16:49 GMT
#302
On November 07 2008 01:41 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:
On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught.

I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend




I really hope you have twin sons that are really from a black mailman, and they end up being gay. What a stupid, closed minded fuckhead.

you hope i have twin sons with another black mailman? im afraid that isnt possible, for 1 reason Men can not give birth, i think you should relax with the insults
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 06 2008 16:49 GMT
#303
why on earth arent you banned
you havent made a single post since you got here that was worth the time it took to write
you're a blithering idiot and now, apparently, a prejudiced little shit on top of it.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
November 06 2008 16:52 GMT
#304
On November 07 2008 01:48 IdrA wrote:
actually i responded pointing out a logical flaw in the only actual 'argument' ive seen you make.
then you ignored that and spouted a bunch of bullshit about how your mom likes gays and you're fine with them they just cant get married or have kids.
dumb is pretty fucking polite, youve earned far worse.


well if thats wat you got out of my post, then i think you have made it quite clear you didnt read any of them, idra let me ask you 1 thing are you homosexual? and im not saying this as an insult, but you seem really upset, i read all your post in this forum and you seem quite upset at this topic in every one of them, and its not just me lol, you calling people tools for expressing their opionions, even thou the G_No or w/e his name is made a valid point ... seriously ....
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
November 06 2008 16:52 GMT
#305
On November 07 2008 01:49 IdrA wrote:
why on earth arent you banned
you havent made a single post since you got here that was worth the time it took to write
you're a blithering idiot and now, apparently, a prejudiced little shit on top of it.


you're not doing much better.

i think this thread has exhausted all its resources for rational thought. i think it's time for the refs to call a draw. we can rm some other day
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Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 16:55:12
November 06 2008 16:53 GMT
#306
On November 07 2008 01:49 IdrA wrote:
why on earth arent you banned
you havent made a single post since you got here that was worth the time it took to write
you're a blithering idiot and now, apparently, a prejudiced little shit on top of it.

DID YOU NOT READ HIS POST? I SIMPLY RESPONSED TO HIS OWN WORDS, you think just cause your in korea doing absuluty NOTHING, that you can come here and call people w/e you want
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
November 06 2008 16:55 GMT
#307
On November 07 2008 01:53 Murk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 01:49 IdrA wrote:
why on earth arent you banned
you havent made a single post since you got here that was worth the time it took to write
you're a blithering idiot and now, apparently, a prejudiced little shit on top of it.

DID YOU NOT READ HIS POST? I SIMPLY RESPONSED TO HIS OWN WORDS, you think just cause your in korea doing absuluty NOTHING, that you can come here and call people w/e you want


stop flaming

kill this thread now plz mods
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 06 2008 16:55 GMT
#308
you think i have to be frothing at the mouth to call you a piece of shit?
im not angry, just pointing out that you're a waste of life.

there is, quite literally, nothing to get out of your post. youve made no arguments.. at all. just that you couldnt understand how a man could like another man (and then going on to say that it MUST be a choice.. makes sense) and that you find them disgusting but it doesnt matter..... as long as they cant get married or have kids. you have not made a single attempt to rationally support your position, and considering how disgusting your position is, yes fuck you. i dont have to be gay to think you're a piece of shit.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 06 2008 16:57 GMT
#309
On November 07 2008 01:52 d_so wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 01:49 IdrA wrote:
why on earth arent you banned
you havent made a single post since you got here that was worth the time it took to write
you're a blithering idiot and now, apparently, a prejudiced little shit on top of it.


you're not doing much better.

i think this thread has exhausted all its resources for rational thought. i think it's time for the refs to call a draw. we can rm some other day

no, read my discussions with headbangaa on the topic in this and the exit poll thread. however you cannot have an intelligent debate when all the other side does is throw a bible at you. theres simply nothing to work with.

http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
November 06 2008 16:57 GMT
#310
This is what happens when religion is the law book:

[image loading]


" three gay Iraqis murdered because of their sexuality"
MC Fighting!~
LordofToast
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom250 Posts
November 06 2008 17:04 GMT
#311
Murk, why are homosexuals so threatening to you to the point that you are disgusted by them? It's not natural to play Starcraft either does that disgust you too?

People like you are the reason the holocaust started. Live and let live ffs.
Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 17:04:59
November 06 2008 17:04 GMT
#312
On November 07 2008 01:55 IdrA wrote:
you think i have to be frothing at the mouth to call you a piece of shit?
im not angry, just pointing out that you're a waste of life.

there is, quite literally, nothing to get out of your post. youve made no arguments.. at all. just that you couldnt understand how a man could like another man (and then going on to say that it MUST be a choice.. makes sense) and that you find them disgusting but it doesnt matter..... as long as they cant get married or have kids. you have not made a single attempt to rationally support your position, and considering how disgusting your position is, yes fuck you. i dont have to be gay to think you're a piece of shit.

And all you have done, and show just how bm you are and throw nothing but insults around, and then there is me, someone who doesnt need to act tough over the internet and name call, if this law haden't passed, then maybe u would have an argument, but the fact that it did means there is a WHOLE lot of people like me, are they all a waste of life? are them all pieces of shit???
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
November 06 2008 17:05 GMT
#313
On November 07 2008 00:33 d_so wrote:
d10, even if the bible is open to different interpretations; even if there have been several versions with conflicting messages, (Septuagint vs. dead sea scrolls, Latin Vulgate vs Erasmus's Greek translation); even if there has been evidence of certain tinkerings of the word order, (placing Priscilla after Aquila to affirm male superiority, etc.) ... even with all these things, how can one possibly misinterpret the Bible's saying on homosexuality?

it's way too clear. so before you say the bible is open to error, which is true, and that should be taken more figuratively than literally, there are still places in the Bible where the imperative is used, and these are not open to any other possible interpretation WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE BIBLE BACK OFF YOU BIBLE HATERS. D10, read 1Corinthinas 6 : 9-10 and tell me how that could possibly construed another way.

for others: I am not claiming the Bible is proof that homosexuality is wrong. LISTEN. I believe it is proof for me and my moral belief that homosexuality and gay marriage is wrong, but WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR BELIEFS, we just can't force them on others. so back off.



LOL, you should really educate yourself on the Bible before you start quoting Paul.
Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
November 06 2008 17:05 GMT
#314
On November 07 2008 02:04 Murk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 01:55 IdrA wrote:
you think i have to be frothing at the mouth to call you a piece of shit?
im not angry, just pointing out that you're a waste of life.

there is, quite literally, nothing to get out of your post. youve made no arguments.. at all. just that you couldnt understand how a man could like another man (and then going on to say that it MUST be a choice.. makes sense) and that you find them disgusting but it doesnt matter..... as long as they cant get married or have kids. you have not made a single attempt to rationally support your position, and considering how disgusting your position is, yes fuck you. i dont have to be gay to think you're a piece of shit.

And all you have done, and show just how bm you are and throw nothing but insults around, and then there is me, someone who doesnt need to act tough over the internet and name call, if this law haden't passed, then maybe u would have an argument, but the fact that it did means there is a WHOLE lot of people like me, are they all a waste of life? are them all pieces of shit???


yes they are
luiohh
Profile Joined February 2008
Bangladesh78 Posts
November 06 2008 17:06 GMT
#315
TOP 12 ARGUMENTS AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE!!
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1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.

2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people cannot get legally married because the world needs more children.

3. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

5. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and it hasn't changed at all: women are property, Blacks can't marry Whites, and divorce is illegal.

6. Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.

7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are always imposed on the entire country. That's why we only have one religion in America.

8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall.

9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage license.

10. Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marriage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to cars or longer lifespans.

12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "separate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages will for gays & lesbians.
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Source: http://grove.ufl.edu/~ggsa/gaymarriage.htmlhttp://grove.ufl.edu/~ggsa/gaymarriage.html
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 06 2008 17:09 GMT
#316
On November 07 2008 02:04 Murk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 01:55 IdrA wrote:
you think i have to be frothing at the mouth to call you a piece of shit?
im not angry, just pointing out that you're a waste of life.

there is, quite literally, nothing to get out of your post. youve made no arguments.. at all. just that you couldnt understand how a man could like another man (and then going on to say that it MUST be a choice.. makes sense) and that you find them disgusting but it doesnt matter..... as long as they cant get married or have kids. you have not made a single attempt to rationally support your position, and considering how disgusting your position is, yes fuck you. i dont have to be gay to think you're a piece of shit.

And all you have done, and show just how bm you are and throw nothing but insults around, and then there is me, someone who doesnt need to act tough over the internet and name call, if this law haden't passed, then maybe u would have an argument, but the fact that it did means there is a WHOLE lot of people like me, are they all a waste of life? are them all pieces of shit???

good argument
was slavery and racism ok when the majority supported it?
yes, you and everyone else who believes gays are disgusting or inferior humans or anything along that line are just as bad as racists. (juuuust in case you're a racist too that means yes, you are all pieces of shit)
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Murk
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada304 Posts
November 06 2008 17:10 GMT
#317
On November 07 2008 02:04 LordofToast wrote:
Murk, why are homosexuals so threatening to you to the point that you are disgusted by them? It's not natural to play Starcraft either does that disgust you too?

People like you are the reason the holocaust started. Live and let live ffs.

The only reason im talkin about this, is because this is what the thread is about. I personally think homosexuality is disgusting its my opionion and im entitled to it, do i think they should be shot and killed and beaten and all that other bullshit, No They are human beings that simply took the wrong path, I just dont see how you can compare homosexuality to starcraft. gays arnt going anywhere , and i know that , and im fine with that at the end of the day its your choice to do whatever you wanna do, But it doesnt mean i gotta argree with it, and i shouldnt be flammed because of it
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
November 06 2008 17:10 GMT
#318
well idra, a rational discussion is impossible for this subject.

1.) One side views it as a religious issue: Thus, any arguments you use countering this are going to attack religion. then it becomes a debate over whether religion is valid or not. if you expect to see results from a discussion like this, you're crazy.

2.) The other side is arguing as if they have no burden of proof: all they're doing is arguing that it's wrong to ban. but no one is making an argument that gays are just as good at parenting straights. and there's a reason no one is or can make this argument...

3.) There is no conclusive proof that gays can make good parents: the timeframe is too short, sample size is too small, too many failures at marriage that are hetero and not enough longitudinal proof of homos raising normal kids.

when i say "you're not doing much better", i mean within this thread, you're failing. all you're doing really is talking shit and saying the bible is wrong. sorry but nothing is as simple as that.

you might ask "why start this thread in the first place"? As close as gay marriage and prop 8 are, they are actually different subjects. i wanted to discuss prop 8. i did not care for the opinion as to the validity of gay marriage because it's an unwinnable subject. but this thread has morphed into exactly that: a fruitless attempts on both sides trying to convince they're right with no valid proof from either side.

so this thread needs to die
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
November 06 2008 17:11 GMT
#319
Phoned, I would be careful what you post. That picture might get you in hot water.

Im not arguing this any further. Murk, I do not agree with you and I think you are ignorant.

I have one question however. What would your best friend came out of the closet? Would you tell him how disgusted you were with him and never talk to him again? Would it change your opinion of him? Even though he is the same person he was before he came out?
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
November 06 2008 17:13 GMT
#320
On November 07 2008 02:05 vsrooks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2008 00:33 d_so wrote:
d10, even if the bible is open to different interpretations; even if there have been several versions with conflicting messages, (Septuagint vs. dead sea scrolls, Latin Vulgate vs Erasmus's Greek translation); even if there has been evidence of certain tinkerings of the word order, (placing Priscilla after Aquila to affirm male superiority, etc.) ... even with all these things, how can one possibly misinterpret the Bible's saying on homosexuality?

it's way too clear. so before you say the bible is open to error, which is true, and that should be taken more figuratively than literally, there are still places in the Bible where the imperative is used, and these are not open to any other possible interpretation WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE BIBLE BACK OFF YOU BIBLE HATERS. D10, read 1Corinthinas 6 : 9-10 and tell me how that could possibly construed another way.

for others: I am not claiming the Bible is proof that homosexuality is wrong. LISTEN. I believe it is proof for me and my moral belief that homosexuality and gay marriage is wrong, but WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR BELIEFS, we just can't force them on others. so back off.



LOL, you should really educate yourself on the Bible before you start quoting Paul.


LOL you should really try to avoid ambiguous statements with inferences of superiority before you make any claims ^_^
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