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Kwark, are you homosexual??? did i offend you??? i didnt say anything offensive, infact im keeping this very PG, you think i say the word "homosexual" IRL ?? im trying to be nice. I dont approve of homosexuality, if you do thats your choice, this topic is about this EXACT subject, its ridiculous to ban someone for stating their opionion, if i was being an asshole and saying fag this cock sucker that and blah blah blah, then maybe you would have a point, but the fact is im not.
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On November 07 2008 00:43 d_so wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:31 Masamune wrote:On November 06 2008 23:40 Murk wrote:
Let me clear up another thing, my disgust for gay's has nothing to do with god, i just dont understand how christians are sticking up for homosexuality, and if your idea of progress, is homosexuality being accepted, i dont want any part of it, your from brazil how do they look at gays down there? cause i know in jamaica you can get shot for that, and i know brazil isnt any better lol Its people like you who should be sterilized. It's kind of sad that gay people can't biologically have children but little dipshits like you can. With regards to Jamaica, you probably would get shot for being gay but that just goes to show that it's countries lagging behind in development and progress that are the ones which have the least tolerance of gays. And based on your post, I wouldn't even be surprised if you're from there, so if your hatred for homosexuality doesn't stem from religion, but merely because they are different, why do you think Blacks should be treated with equality in a society where they are a minority and different as well? you're crazy masaumune, on so many levels. great, you support gays. but if someone is against gays, then you stoop down to their level? the difference between blacks and gays is this: blacks are genetically black. gays are genetically PREDISPOSED to be gay. but ultimately, being gay requires a choice. kinda like fat people. yeah, all these studies show that there's a genetic makeup to being fat. but it's also the fat people's choice to not work out, not be careful what they eat about, etc. and in the end, they're fat and they're disgusting to look at. [BRING IT ON FATTIES] this is how christianity looks at gays. we understand. dick sucking, yaknow, probably feels good either guy or girl. anal sex: hell, if girls like it, i'm sure some guys do too; whatever. there's biological proof that the anus is a pleasure point, whether you're gay or straight. so we understand, really, that it is a possibility; we also understand that some are more inclined to be gay than others -- but we do not cast a blind eye on the choice and power of will to make or decline a choice. if they make that choice, then once again, we really can't judge. sinners are sinners no matter what the sin, and it's not our place to judge. but the bible tells us how to run our church, what laws to keep as the body of christ -- meaning that even if we individually fuck up, the church must be kept holy in such and such fashion, is dictated by the bible. thus, even if we can be tolerant of gays, we can't allow them to marry in our church.
There is not enough scientific information to clearly state what the causes of homosexuality are and how much of an effect the environment does have. I do believe that homosexuality is genetic as well, just like being Black or Asian is genetically determined...to what extent the environment plays I don't know. To say that homosexuals choose to like cock is a bit absurd to me and you're delusional if you think this is the case. Making a comparison between being overweight and gay is also stupid because in the latter case, it's not reversible whereas the former can exercise or go through surgery or whatever to become normal again.
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On November 07 2008 00:52 Fen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend Why is it wrong? If you are just disgusted by homosexuals, then you most likely have been socially conditioned by someone to feel that way. Unless of course you have been involved with homosexuals yourself, which I doubt. However this ties into my previous statement. Surely someone has conditioned you to think this way. Have you really questioned it however? Or are you too simpleminded to do so? You are no different to the person 50 years ago who thought black men were disgusting and needed to be discriminated against. Thankfully, people analysed their reasoning and chose to change their thinking. Your a sad individual.
I wasen't Programmed any way, ill explain why im like this (atleast try to) I simply dont understand how a man who has been with a women, could possibly think about being with a man, i do not believe people are born gay, i think its a choice ( i could be wrong, has it been proven your born gay???) man laying with man is just wrong. and Being black isnt a choice, your born black, being gay IMO is a choice, and the wrong one, and as i said before why does it always have to be a black man !?!
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On November 07 2008 00:57 Murk wrote:
I dont approve of homosexuality, if you do thats your choice,
Your choice is quite simply wrong.
Now interracial marriage, that shouldn't be allowed. Sure there are black people and white people and that's fine but why must black men try and sleep with our women. It can't be allowed. It's perverse. Black and white?!?! What people do in their own private lives is our business.
Progress sucks.
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On November 07 2008 00:47 d_so wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:37 IdrA wrote:On November 07 2008 00:33 d_so wrote:
for others: I am not claiming the Bible is proof that homosexuality is wrong. LISTEN. I believe it is proof for me and my moral belief that homosexuality and gay marriage is wrong, but WE ARE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR BELIEFS, we just can't force them on others. so back off.
no your belief has an affect on others that means you give up your right to say its just an opinion and we cant criticize it. if you just sit at home thinking about how much you hate gays thats fine, we'll think you're a jackass but thats it. when you go out and try to tell other people how to live their lives its no longer just a belief. you're so wrong. the only reason i brought it up in the OP was to make sure my state didn't fuck up and vote yes on prop 8, which we did. i brought it up not to defend or hate against gays. i did it because constitutionally, we were going to make a grave mistake. how does that tell some people to live one way and others to live another? All i was trying to do was influence a vote. and according to you, then anyone that has any belief has an effect on others and thus all opinions are open to criticism. Fine; but at a certain point it's impossible to change other people's beliefs. you can try cost-benefit analysis, logic, etc etc. people believe what they believe. you're just gonna waste time. what we DO with the beliefs is what's important. and i believe prop 8 forces the wrong thing on people, even if i disagree with their beliefs
ah sorry i was confused i thought you were in favor of prop 8/banning gay marriage
you're still a tool for taking your views on morality from an ancient piece of fiction, but you're less of a tool for not forcing it on others.
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"A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21 )
Quite clear. Perhaps an extreme example, but there was a time when this was socially acceptable too. Tolerance and understanding of what is acceptable change with the times.
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On November 07 2008 00:45 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:31 Masamune wrote:On November 06 2008 23:40 Murk wrote:
Let me clear up another thing, my disgust for gay's has nothing to do with god, i just dont understand how christians are sticking up for homosexuality, and if your idea of progress, is homosexuality being accepted, i dont want any part of it, your from brazil how do they look at gays down there? cause i know in jamaica you can get shot for that, and i know brazil isnt any better lol Its people like you who should be sterilized. It's kind of sad that gay people can't biologically have children but little dipshits like you can. With regards to Jamaica, you probably would get shot for being gay but that just goes to show that it's countries lagging behind in development and progress that are the ones which have the least tolerance of gays. And based on your post, I wouldn't even be surprised if you're from there, so if your hatred for homosexuality doesn't stem from religion, but merely because they are different, why do you think Blacks should be treated with equality in a society where they are a minority and different as well? Edit: To be clear, I think everyone, no matter creed, skin colour, sexual orientation etc. should be treated equally. My question to Murk is just one of curiosity. Being white black asian or w/e, has nothing to do with homosexuality. I Honestly dont see how your comparing the to. Homosexuality isn't "different" its wrong. I am wondering why you choose to use blacks as an example thou, your point could apply with asian or any other color why does it always have to be black?
Homosexuality is wrong to you because it's different. I made the racial comparison because you clearly state that you don't like gays for reasons which are not religious, but because they disgust you. So why do you expect to be treated equally by a predominantly White society (Canada) when you yourself refuse to treat gays equally? If I were some White racist hick and told you that I don't like you because you're Black and because you disgust me, would that be wrong? Because by your standards, being gay is disgusting and you don't like them because they happen to like the same sex, just like a White racist hick wouldn't like you for your skin colour.
I also mentioned Black specifically because you probably are Black and it seems to have struck a cord in you.
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On November 07 2008 01:02 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:52 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend Why is it wrong? If you are just disgusted by homosexuals, then you most likely have been socially conditioned by someone to feel that way. Unless of course you have been involved with homosexuals yourself, which I doubt. However this ties into my previous statement. Surely someone has conditioned you to think this way. Have you really questioned it however? Or are you too simpleminded to do so? You are no different to the person 50 years ago who thought black men were disgusting and needed to be discriminated against. Thankfully, people analysed their reasoning and chose to change their thinking. Your a sad individual. I wasen't Programmed any way, ill explain why im like this (atleast try to) I simply dont understand how a man who has been with a women, could possibly think about being with a man, i do not believe people are born gay, i think its a choice ( i could be wrong, has it been proven your born gay???) man laying with man is just wrong. and Being black isnt a choice, your born black, being gay IMO is a choice, and the wrong one, and as i said before why does it always have to be a black man !?!
that makes no sense
you cant imagine how a man could choose to be with another man. therefore it must be a choice!
wouldnt the logical conclusion be that its NOT a choice? if they are choosing something that you would never dream of choosing, doesnt that imply that they are somehow fundamentally different than you?
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On November 07 2008 01:02 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:52 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend Why is it wrong? If you are just disgusted by homosexuals, then you most likely have been socially conditioned by someone to feel that way. Unless of course you have been involved with homosexuals yourself, which I doubt. However this ties into my previous statement. Surely someone has conditioned you to think this way. Have you really questioned it however? Or are you too simpleminded to do so? You are no different to the person 50 years ago who thought black men were disgusting and needed to be discriminated against. Thankfully, people analysed their reasoning and chose to change their thinking. Your a sad individual. I wasen't Programmed any way, ill explain why im like this (atleast try to) I simply dont understand how a man who has been with a women, could possibly think about being with a man, i do not believe people are born gay, i think its a choice ( i could be wrong, has it been proven your born gay???) man laying with man is just wrong. and Being black isnt a choice, your born black, being gay IMO is a choice, and the wrong one, and as i said before why does it always have to be a black man !?!
There is a definate agreement that there is a biological reasoning behind it. To what extent is debated. However people are definitely born with gay tendancies. Being gay isnt a choice.
How can you insist on saying that its a choice when you have absolutely NO experience in the matter? Did you choose to like the opposite sex? or are you just naturally attracted to them? Ever considered it might be exactly the same for gay people.
And saying you havent been programmed in any way? Your either in denial or dillusional. EVERYONE is programmed by the significant people in their lives. Usually your parents. Your reasoning for most of your moral ideologies comes from somoene else.
An example are those two girls from america who sing about hating black men and hating gay people. You think they sat down one day and said, I think I hate gays and blacks? No, their parents taught them to be that way.
And we use black just because there has been a larger history in the western with black people. The term can be exchangeable with any group that has been or is currently being discriminated against.
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On November 07 2008 01:14 Fen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:02 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:52 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend Why is it wrong? If you are just disgusted by homosexuals, then you most likely have been socially conditioned by someone to feel that way. Unless of course you have been involved with homosexuals yourself, which I doubt. However this ties into my previous statement. Surely someone has conditioned you to think this way. Have you really questioned it however? Or are you too simpleminded to do so? You are no different to the person 50 years ago who thought black men were disgusting and needed to be discriminated against. Thankfully, people analysed their reasoning and chose to change their thinking. Your a sad individual. I wasen't Programmed any way, ill explain why im like this (atleast try to) I simply dont understand how a man who has been with a women, could possibly think about being with a man, i do not believe people are born gay, i think its a choice ( i could be wrong, has it been proven your born gay???) man laying with man is just wrong. and Being black isnt a choice, your born black, being gay IMO is a choice, and the wrong one, and as i said before why does it always have to be a black man !?! There is a definate agreement that there is a biological reasoning behind it. To what extent is debated. However people are definitely born with gay tendancies. Being gay isnt a choice. How can you insist on saying that its a choice when you have absolutely NO experience in the matter? Did you choose to like the opposite sex? or are you just naturally attracted to them? Ever considered it might be exactly the same for gay people. And saying you havent been programmed in any way? Your either in denial or dillusional. EVERYONE is programmed by the significant people in their lives. Usually your parents. Your reasoning for most of your moral ideologies comes from somoene else. An example are those two girls from america who sing about hating black men and hating gay people. You think they sat down one day and said, I think I hate gays and blacks? No, their parents taught them to be that way. And we use black just because there has been a larger history in the western with black people. The term can be exchangeable with any group that has been or is currently being discriminated against.
Ok, if their born gay, then its not their fault. But im not gonna lie to you even it was proven that your born gay, id still find it disgusting, I guess that makes me kinda ignorant. But i dont agree with comparing someones skin color, to something as big as homosexuality, and my mom rasied me and she doesnt find anything wrong with gays. I dont know if she approves of it, but she doesnt make fun of it. Infact now that i think about it , the subject never came up lol. you seem very convinced that somone programmed this in me, but your wrong i just find it disgusting. but my beliefs and opionions on the matter is gonna change a damn thing, But i do strongly believe that not only should homosexuals not be allowed to marry, but they shouldnt be able to adopt children, for obvious reasons. i find it really hard to believe so many of you are ganging up on me as if im the only one with this opionion, you walk up the street and ask random people and im sure 2 out of every 5 will agree. iv come to accept a long time ago, that gays are here to stay and their not going anywhere, and thats fine. But dont try to get married and adopt children.
And another thing calling canada a white society is just stupid have you been to toronto??? lol
P.S There is another reason why i think homosexuality is a choice and not genetic, but based upon the responses iv gotten from the PG comments iv given on here, your most definetly not ready for the rated R
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To keep it simple, I believe the constitution talks something about the separation of church and state. This is a religious, church-related issue, and the government is involved in it. The government should have no part in restricting the marriage of individuals (be them gay or not) because of religious issues. Leave that decision to the churches, not to the government, especially due to tax-related reasons..
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On November 07 2008 01:26 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:14 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 01:02 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:52 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend Why is it wrong? If you are just disgusted by homosexuals, then you most likely have been socially conditioned by someone to feel that way. Unless of course you have been involved with homosexuals yourself, which I doubt. However this ties into my previous statement. Surely someone has conditioned you to think this way. Have you really questioned it however? Or are you too simpleminded to do so? You are no different to the person 50 years ago who thought black men were disgusting and needed to be discriminated against. Thankfully, people analysed their reasoning and chose to change their thinking. Your a sad individual. I wasen't Programmed any way, ill explain why im like this (atleast try to) I simply dont understand how a man who has been with a women, could possibly think about being with a man, i do not believe people are born gay, i think its a choice ( i could be wrong, has it been proven your born gay???) man laying with man is just wrong. and Being black isnt a choice, your born black, being gay IMO is a choice, and the wrong one, and as i said before why does it always have to be a black man !?! There is a definate agreement that there is a biological reasoning behind it. To what extent is debated. However people are definitely born with gay tendancies. Being gay isnt a choice. How can you insist on saying that its a choice when you have absolutely NO experience in the matter? Did you choose to like the opposite sex? or are you just naturally attracted to them? Ever considered it might be exactly the same for gay people. And saying you havent been programmed in any way? Your either in denial or dillusional. EVERYONE is programmed by the significant people in their lives. Usually your parents. Your reasoning for most of your moral ideologies comes from somoene else. An example are those two girls from america who sing about hating black men and hating gay people. You think they sat down one day and said, I think I hate gays and blacks? No, their parents taught them to be that way. And we use black just because there has been a larger history in the western with black people. The term can be exchangeable with any group that has been or is currently being discriminated against. Ok, if their born gay, then its not their fault. But im not gonna lie to you even it was proven that your born gay, id still find it disgusting, I guess that makes me kinda ignorant. But i dont agree with comparing someones skin color, to something as big as homosexuality, and my mom rasied me and she doesnt find anything wrong with gays. I dont know if she approves of it, but she doesnt make fun of it. Infact now that i think about it , the subject never came up lol. you seem very convinced that somone programmed this in me, but your wrong i just find it disgusting. but my beliefs and opionions on the matter is gonna change a damn thing, But i do strongly believe that not only should homosexuals not be allowed to marry, but they shouldnt be able to adopt children, for obvious reasons. i find it really hard to believe so many of you are ganging up on me as if im the only one with this opionion, you walk up the street and ask random people and im sure 2 out of every 5 will agree. iv come to accept a long time ago, that gays are here to stay and their not going anywhere, and thats fine. But dont try to get married and adopt children P.S There is another reason why i think homosexuality is a choice and not genetic, but based upon the responses iv gotten from the PG comments iv given on here, your most definetly not ready for the rated R
Why not marriage and children? If two people are committed to each other and want to formalise it with a marriage why shouldn't they be allowed to? If a man and a woman have known each other for half an hour and are both really drunk they're still allowed to get married. But two men who have been together their entire lives and love each other can't. How is that fair?
As for children, there is no evidence that children are any worse off in a same sex parent family and even if they were they'd still logically be far better off there than a single parent family. If you're going to say two women can't bring up a child then surely one woman can't either. Show some consistancy. If all children have an undeniable right to grow up with a father and a mother then deny single people the right to adopt and take the children away from divorcees. If a single parent can do an okay job of raising kids then why can't two devoted parents who happen to be the same sex?
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ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'
TWO: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.'
THREE: 'You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.'
FOUR: 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.'
FIVE: 'Honor your father and your mother.'
SIX: 'You shall not murder.'
SEVEN: 'You shall not commit adultery.'
EIGHT: 'You shall not steal.'
NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'
I don't see where God mentions anything about homosexuals...
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On November 07 2008 01:26 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:14 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 01:02 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:52 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend Why is it wrong? If you are just disgusted by homosexuals, then you most likely have been socially conditioned by someone to feel that way. Unless of course you have been involved with homosexuals yourself, which I doubt. However this ties into my previous statement. Surely someone has conditioned you to think this way. Have you really questioned it however? Or are you too simpleminded to do so? You are no different to the person 50 years ago who thought black men were disgusting and needed to be discriminated against. Thankfully, people analysed their reasoning and chose to change their thinking. Your a sad individual. I wasen't Programmed any way, ill explain why im like this (atleast try to) I simply dont understand how a man who has been with a women, could possibly think about being with a man, i do not believe people are born gay, i think its a choice ( i could be wrong, has it been proven your born gay???) man laying with man is just wrong. and Being black isnt a choice, your born black, being gay IMO is a choice, and the wrong one, and as i said before why does it always have to be a black man !?! There is a definate agreement that there is a biological reasoning behind it. To what extent is debated. However people are definitely born with gay tendancies. Being gay isnt a choice. How can you insist on saying that its a choice when you have absolutely NO experience in the matter? Did you choose to like the opposite sex? or are you just naturally attracted to them? Ever considered it might be exactly the same for gay people. And saying you havent been programmed in any way? Your either in denial or dillusional. EVERYONE is programmed by the significant people in their lives. Usually your parents. Your reasoning for most of your moral ideologies comes from somoene else. An example are those two girls from america who sing about hating black men and hating gay people. You think they sat down one day and said, I think I hate gays and blacks? No, their parents taught them to be that way. And we use black just because there has been a larger history in the western with black people. The term can be exchangeable with any group that has been or is currently being discriminated against. Ok, if their born gay, then its not their fault. But im not gonna lie to you even it was proven that your born gay, id still find it disgusting, I guess that makes me kinda ignorant. But i dont agree with comparing someones skin color, to something as big as homosexuality, and my mom rasied me and she doesnt find anything wrong with gays. I dont know if she approves of it, but she doesnt make fun of it. Infact now that i think about it , the subject never came up lol. you seem very convinced that somone programmed this in me, but your wrong i just find it disgusting. but my beliefs and opionions on the matter is gonna change a damn thing, But i do strongly believe that not only should homosexuals not be allowed to marry, but they shouldnt be able to adopt children, for obvious reasons. i find it really hard to believe so many of you are ganging up on me as if im the only one with this opionion, you walk up the street and ask random people and im sure 2 out of every 5 will agree. iv come to accept a long time ago, that gays are here to stay and their not going anywhere, and thats fine. But dont try to get married and adopt children. And another thing calling canada a white society is just stupid have you been to toronto??? lol P.S There is another reason why i think homosexuality is a choice and not genetic, but based upon the responses iv gotten from the PG comments iv given on here, your most definetly not ready for the rated R
you're incredibly dumb
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On November 07 2008 01:08 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:57 Murk wrote:
I dont approve of homosexuality, if you do thats your choice, Your choice is quite simply wrong. Now interracial marriage, that shouldn't be allowed. Sure there are black people and white people and that's fine but why must black men try and sleep with our women. It can't be allowed. It's perverse. Black and white?!?! What people do in their own private lives is our business. Progress sucks. atleast the black man is sleeping with a WOMEN, and if i dont appove of homosexuality thats my opinion, and my choice who are you to tell me im wrong !?!?!
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On November 07 2008 01:36 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:08 Kwark wrote:On November 07 2008 00:57 Murk wrote:
I dont approve of homosexuality, if you do thats your choice, Your choice is quite simply wrong. Now interracial marriage, that shouldn't be allowed. Sure there are black people and white people and that's fine but why must black men try and sleep with our women. It can't be allowed. It's perverse. Black and white?!?! What people do in their own private lives is our business. Progress sucks. atleast the black man is sleeping with a WOMEN, and if i dont appove of homosexuality thats my opinion, and my choice who are you to tell me im wrong !?!?!
And if I don't approve of interracial marriage that's my opinion and who are you to tell me I'm wrong?
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I didnt say your wrong, its simply ur opionion 
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On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend
Maybe we should start persecuting christians and feed you guys to lions again. Would that make you understand why they're accepted? Cuz, you know, they're fucking human beings and not doing anything that impacts your miserable little life in any way?
I really hope you have twin sons that are really from a black mailman, and they end up being gay. What a stupid, closed minded fuckhead.
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On November 07 2008 01:36 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2008 01:26 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 01:14 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 01:02 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:52 Fen wrote:On November 07 2008 00:43 Murk wrote:On November 07 2008 00:05 Fen wrote:
Murk, Have you ever looked into any other religions or read any other religion's texts. You seem like someone who just doesnt question the world around him. You read the bible and figure this has to be 100% correct? Most christians do not believe in every word of the bible, so its got nothing to do with being faithful to your god. You just seem like a simpleton who is happy to stay in his own little world and believe the first thing he was taught. I do not go to church, I havent read the whole bible once, But i do know from what i was taught god did not intend man to lay with man, but with me this has nothing to do with god, Homosexuals disgust me. I simply wanted to know how christians how stick up for gays. I am in No way a religions man. What scares me the most is that their slowly easing this gay stuff in the schools, i worry about what their going to be teaching my kids when they go to school. you clearly got me mistaken for some religion fanatic, this is not the case Homosexuality is wrong, im talking female on female, male on male it doesnt matter. I just dont see when Homosexuality suddenly became accepted... What happend Why is it wrong? If you are just disgusted by homosexuals, then you most likely have been socially conditioned by someone to feel that way. Unless of course you have been involved with homosexuals yourself, which I doubt. However this ties into my previous statement. Surely someone has conditioned you to think this way. Have you really questioned it however? Or are you too simpleminded to do so? You are no different to the person 50 years ago who thought black men were disgusting and needed to be discriminated against. Thankfully, people analysed their reasoning and chose to change their thinking. Your a sad individual. I wasen't Programmed any way, ill explain why im like this (atleast try to) I simply dont understand how a man who has been with a women, could possibly think about being with a man, i do not believe people are born gay, i think its a choice ( i could be wrong, has it been proven your born gay???) man laying with man is just wrong. and Being black isnt a choice, your born black, being gay IMO is a choice, and the wrong one, and as i said before why does it always have to be a black man !?! There is a definate agreement that there is a biological reasoning behind it. To what extent is debated. However people are definitely born with gay tendancies. Being gay isnt a choice. How can you insist on saying that its a choice when you have absolutely NO experience in the matter? Did you choose to like the opposite sex? or are you just naturally attracted to them? Ever considered it might be exactly the same for gay people. And saying you havent been programmed in any way? Your either in denial or dillusional. EVERYONE is programmed by the significant people in their lives. Usually your parents. Your reasoning for most of your moral ideologies comes from somoene else. An example are those two girls from america who sing about hating black men and hating gay people. You think they sat down one day and said, I think I hate gays and blacks? No, their parents taught them to be that way. And we use black just because there has been a larger history in the western with black people. The term can be exchangeable with any group that has been or is currently being discriminated against. Ok, if their born gay, then its not their fault. But im not gonna lie to you even it was proven that your born gay, id still find it disgusting, I guess that makes me kinda ignorant. But i dont agree with comparing someones skin color, to something as big as homosexuality, and my mom rasied me and she doesnt find anything wrong with gays. I dont know if she approves of it, but she doesnt make fun of it. Infact now that i think about it , the subject never came up lol. you seem very convinced that somone programmed this in me, but your wrong i just find it disgusting. but my beliefs and opionions on the matter is gonna change a damn thing, But i do strongly believe that not only should homosexuals not be allowed to marry, but they shouldnt be able to adopt children, for obvious reasons. i find it really hard to believe so many of you are ganging up on me as if im the only one with this opionion, you walk up the street and ask random people and im sure 2 out of every 5 will agree. iv come to accept a long time ago, that gays are here to stay and their not going anywhere, and thats fine. But dont try to get married and adopt children. And another thing calling canada a white society is just stupid have you been to toronto??? lol P.S There is another reason why i think homosexuality is a choice and not genetic, but based upon the responses iv gotten from the PG comments iv given on here, your most definetly not ready for the rated R you're incredibly dumb
also your opionion, you have made it quite clear you have nothing of any use to say other then throwing insults around over the internet of all places ... Anything i have said, shouldnt be any news to any of you, becuase its people like me why this law was passed in the first place. So attacking me isnt gonna change anything, so you cant get married idra, you can still live together
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