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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
On November 03 2008 15:25 Savio wrote: No, there are so many reasons to hope for Obama to lose. The whining is just perk. You can hope all you want but its not going to happen. The intrade price for a Dem presidency is at its highest levels for Obama (almost 90%). Fivethirtyeight.com has the likelihood even higher - 94%. Its gonna be a landslide and its a testament to the well crafted campaign that Obama has run compared to the erratic one that McCain has run. McCain suspending his campaign for a day as a publicity stunt during the financial crisis and then choosing a VP that hes only met a couple of times in his entire life are two of the biggest mistakes. Obama on the flipside has built a well-oiled campaign from the ground up. There is no question as to who is the better leader. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Your state of the union addresses will kick fucking ass. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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LxRogue
United States1415 Posts
Even for a republican, McCain is a terrible candidate. Although they are somewhat similar, i'm really hoping Obama wins. CA Prop 8 is ridiculous. It injects religious ideas and discrimination into the state constitution. If you conservatives really care that much about "protecting marriage", feel free to create an anti-gay church or something, but leave the rest of the modern world alone. Most of the christians I know are voting no on it. The government has no role in saying which adults can marry and which can't. | ||
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iloveoil
Norway171 Posts
time to learn Mandarin guys | ||
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shimmy
Poland997 Posts
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Doctorasul
Romania1145 Posts
http://sefora.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/nobel_letter_v6.pdf I'm curious what the spin will be on this endorsement. Is science a liberal conspiracy? Are the intellectual elites just not smart enough to understand your brilliant arguments for voting Republican? I'd love for McCain supporters here to read the letter and then post their rebuttal. This is your chance to show 76 Nobel prize winners wrong in one swoop. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
On November 03 2008 16:10 NastyMarine wrote: If I see the Mccain vote go over 25 on tl.net I'll kill every single one of them ^^ +1 mccain | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Dont mess with my country, its mine, mineeeeeeeee and ill vote against baby killing gay lovin weed smoking liberal tax n spend liberals any day of the weak becaue all of you are socialist sissys who let your "intelligence" corrupt our sacred traditional values, like gun ownership!! (thinks about the kid who got shot while trick or treating with an assault rifle) | ||
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kemoryan
Spain1506 Posts
I'll never understand how can people consider this a democracy. Where is the 'demo' part of it? | ||
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Sadist
United States7235 Posts
On November 03 2008 10:59 Savio wrote: So, in the election thread, someone once tried to say the same thing. Basically he said that "capitalism and conservatism are the opposite of altruism, they just promote greed and unacceptance respectively.." This was my response to him and my response to you since you didn't back up your statement with anything: Do a google search on whether Republicans or Democrats give more to charity. You will find that it is Republicans. Democrats are pretty generous with tax money taken by coercion, while Republicans tend to be more generous with their own money. http://philanthropy.com/free/articles/v19/i04/04001101.htm Excerpt: "In Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism (Basic Books), Arthur C. Brooks finds that religious conservatives are far more charitable than secular liberals, and that those who support the idea that government should redistribute income are among the least likely to dig into their own wallets to help others." "If liberals persist in their antipathy to religion," Mr. Brooks writes, "the Democrats will become not only the party of secularism, but also the party of uncharity." And a map of the most generous state in the Union with red being "more generous": ![[image loading]](http://www.lawprofessorblogs.com/taxprof/linkimages/generosity0512map.gif) Here is the outcome of the 2004 Presidential race: ![[image loading]](http://www.lawprofessorblogs.com/taxprof/linkimages/election04.gif) Source: http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2005/11/generosity_inde.html According to this, 28 of the 29 "most generous" states are Red States that voted for President Bush (including all 25 of the "most generous" states) While 17 of the 21 "least generous" states are Blue States that voted for Senator Kerry (including all 7 of the "least generous" states) So, I'm wondering how you are going to back up your assertion that religion and conservatism are impediments to altruism.... ive already seen your post, I dont think giving to charity for tax breaks makes a person considerate to others. If you were considerate to others youd let them be on their own social issues since they dont affect you and not dictate your religious doctrine to them. Just because gay marriage is allowed doesnt mean you have to be gay and burn in hell, and just because stem cell research and abortion is allowed doesnt mean you need to go to the doctor. Not to mention, I didnt read all of the article you posted, because I went over it in the other thread, but if you give money to your church for a tithe or handout or whatever, does that count as a gift to charity? BTW if more restrictions are placed on stem cell research in this country, people are going to be fucking pissed in 10-15 years when they need to fly to europe or asia to get treatment on their spinal cord or other ailments, but no one fucking thinks about that do they? | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
On November 03 2008 22:56 CultureMisfits wrote: One of the main reasons, i am voting for mccain is because most obama supporters scare me. Its like a blind cult following. In richmond, random vcu students come up to me, telling me i have to vote for obama. Then i tell them im still undecided, and they scoff me like i am dumb. then i see TL, and i see the same attitude, the same obama elitism. Obama is a politican like all the others, he is not a fucking martyr. This blind elitism toward one candidate is how tyrants come to power. a valid point, but if i may be frank, a rather silly way of choosing your candidate. shouldn't you be focusing on what the candidate will do in office? their policies and qualifications etc? | ||
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Savio
United States1850 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 03 2008 20:50 D10 wrote: Doctorasul, they will say the same thing they say when we bring up the "all the world wants barack obama" subject. Dont mess with my country, its mine, mineeeeeeeee and ill vote against baby killing gay lovin weed smoking liberal tax n spend liberals any day of the weak becaue all of you are socialist sissys who let your "intelligence" corrupt our sacred traditional values, like gun ownership!! (thinks about the kid who got shot while trick or treating with an assault rifle) we're gonna vote mccain just to piss you off you're really rather obnoxious and condescending in these election threads, valid points or not. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
 Sounds about right. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14894 Posts
On November 04 2008 02:28 Savio wrote: Yes, young college age Obama supporters are very scary. sorry, guilty as charged! | ||
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NotJumperer
United States1371 Posts
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