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On July 16 2008 00:53 Hawk wrote:
Rising inflation, ballooning gas rates, soaring cost of flour and other basic necessities, the collapse of the housing market, mortgage loaning companies on the verge of collapse... sounds like we're pretty screwed, huh?
1) we eat rice mostly
2) we rent apartment atm
3) we have little/none mortage, only 1 on car atm
I think my family is at a stable income to not be affected too much. Those of lower income gonna get hit hard imho.
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On July 16 2008 14:31 Ecael wrote:
Solar panels are quite useful in Cali for private use, and I would imagine for corporate use as well. Wind energy has demonstrated efficiency, if not as high as nuclear, in Germany and various European countries. However, a key thing to keep in mind in regards to investment in them is that the energy industry are subsidizing private solar panels, much like they encourage saving energy. When the market is good enough the private sector will move in on its own, the government should be more concerned with getting out of their way than trying to create their vision of what the market should be, which invariably screws up.
I wholeheartedly agree. I also learned something from wikiing wind turbines. : ]
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If worse come to the worst California declaires independency and gg. wee~~ terminator president ftw.
but more seriously I am very happy that those energy efficient bulbs are being promoted. Great step forward imo. And on the radio while driving today I heard several advise on don't drive too fast to save gas, which I am very happy too.
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i've been raping at like 8% for the last three years with my mutual fund...and this is the first quarter i've lost money 
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On July 16 2008 14:42 decafchicken wrote:i've been raping at like 8% for the last three years with my mutual fund...and this is the first quarter i've lost money
lol, I read an article like 2 weeks ago about how this is reality, and the market we have had up until this point even following the collapse of dot com has been so much better than what we should be expecting.
8% is pretty good though, what is it?
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MURICA15980 Posts
Actually, 8% is pretty much moving with the market average, although the last three years has probably been slower so the fund probably out-preformed if I remember correctly.
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
good thing i live in korea.
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
lets just say i'm glad i live in korea.
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the eco sux
we gotta fix something before we end up like mexico (#@$@$@#$ GOD NO!)
but yeah, somewhat worried but I don't loose sleep over it. thats for sure
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On July 16 2008 01:02 iLjh wrote:
i'm worried, that's why im voting for obama
and for all of you that are worried also, dont just complain without contributing, if you're over 18 register to vote because we can make a difference
I'm worried that you're voting for Obama.
You're voluntarily voting for a man who openly and admittedly refuses to acknowledge the symbol and song of loyalty of the United States of America, comes from a racist background toward Caucasians, and has begun playing rhetoric games?
The last man who should be in office is one who doesn't even salute his own fucking flag.
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On July 16 2008 15:44 rpf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2008 01:02 iLjh wrote:
i'm worried, that's why im voting for obama
and for all of you that are worried also, dont just complain without contributing, if you're over 18 register to vote because we can make a difference I'm worried that you're voting for Obama. You're voluntarily voting for a man who openly and admittedly refuses to acknowledge the symbol and song of loyalty of the United States of America, comes from a racist background toward Caucasians, and has begun playing rhetoric games? The last man who should be in office is one who doesn't even salute his own fucking flag.
this is true. but please dont tell me you want mccain
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On July 16 2008 15:52 Sanity. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2008 15:44 rpf wrote:On July 16 2008 01:02 iLjh wrote:
i'm worried, that's why im voting for obama
and for all of you that are worried also, dont just complain without contributing, if you're over 18 register to vote because we can make a difference I'm worried that you're voting for Obama. You're voluntarily voting for a man who openly and admittedly refuses to acknowledge the symbol and song of loyalty of the United States of America, comes from a racist background toward Caucasians, and has begun playing rhetoric games? The last man who should be in office is one who doesn't even salute his own fucking flag. this is true. but please dont tell me you want mccain
I want McCain to win, though Obama coming from a racist background toward Caucasians is...eh, lol. As Asian I can hardly care, better that he gets into some idea of removing affirmative action, as unlikely as that is, if we have to suffer Obama being president :p
As for loyalty toward the US, who cares, as long as he can do his job right, I have more of a problem regarding that. It isn't like he will be selling out the US if he can do his job right, who cares about minor detail like saluting the flag.
Klogon, I assume we are talking about purely domestic funds, right? Nothing insane like foreign (cough China cough Latin America) funds.
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On July 16 2008 15:55 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2008 15:52 Sanity. wrote:On July 16 2008 15:44 rpf wrote:On July 16 2008 01:02 iLjh wrote:
i'm worried, that's why im voting for obama
and for all of you that are worried also, dont just complain without contributing, if you're over 18 register to vote because we can make a difference I'm worried that you're voting for Obama. You're voluntarily voting for a man who openly and admittedly refuses to acknowledge the symbol and song of loyalty of the United States of America, comes from a racist background toward Caucasians, and has begun playing rhetoric games? The last man who should be in office is one who doesn't even salute his own fucking flag. this is true. but please dont tell me you want mccain I want McCain to win, though Obama coming from a racist background toward Caucasians is...eh, lol. As Asian I can hardly care, better that he gets into some idea of removing affirmative action, as unlikely as that is, if we have to suffer Obama being president :p
eh i dislike them both. a lotttt. i'm just pessimistic
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It's nearly impossible to find a job around where I go to school 'cause of this fucking recession. -___-;;
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Austin10831 Posts
On July 16 2008 15:44 rpf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2008 01:02 iLjh wrote:
i'm worried, that's why im voting for obama
and for all of you that are worried also, dont just complain without contributing, if you're over 18 register to vote because we can make a difference I'm worried that you're voting for Obama. You're voluntarily voting for a man who openly and admittedly refuses to acknowledge the symbol and song of loyalty of the United States of America, comes from a racist background toward Caucasians, and has begun playing rhetoric games? The last man who should be in office is one who doesn't even salute his own fucking flag.
Shit posts like this are despicable. I rarely engage in political debates on here but this is so below the belt it's staggering. I'd really love to hear you defend this inflammatory bullshit to a reasonable audience.
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mahnini
http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/PB2/pb2ch12.pdf
Subsidies are not inherently bad. Many technologies and
industries were born of government subsidies. Jet aircraft developed
with military R&D expenditures led to modern commercial
airliners. The Internet was the result of publicly funded
links among computers in government laboratories and
research institutes.
http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/media/5/1/Part_IV_Introduction_group.pdf
Public support has been important. A study by Norberg-Bohm found that, of 20 key
innovations in the past 30 years, only one of the 14 they could source was funded entirely by
the private sector and nine were totally public.
check out this report on specifically handling government involvement in energy technology
http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/files/creating_incentives2.pdf
these lead me to believe that your point is debatable
EDIT: again i'm here to learn as much as anything, so if anyone wants to inform please do. i'm not under any delusions of grandeur here
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I'm not too worried. I figure if the economy ever gets THAT bad, I can just move to a country with a better one.
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Zurich15328 Posts
On July 16 2008 14:41 evanthebouncy! wrote:
And on the radio while driving today I heard several advise on don't drive too fast to save gas, which I am very happy too.
What? You're supposed to drive even slower? The NJ "Express" Way was hardly bareable as it is. Those speeds would get you killed on the Autobahn.
But on a serious note, 65 mph is already pretty much the optimal speed regarding gas consumption. Better drive more efficient cars.
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On July 16 2008 15:55 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2008 15:52 Sanity. wrote:On July 16 2008 15:44 rpf wrote:On July 16 2008 01:02 iLjh wrote:
i'm worried, that's why im voting for obama
and for all of you that are worried also, dont just complain without contributing, if you're over 18 register to vote because we can make a difference I'm worried that you're voting for Obama. You're voluntarily voting for a man who openly and admittedly refuses to acknowledge the symbol and song of loyalty of the United States of America, comes from a racist background toward Caucasians, and has begun playing rhetoric games? The last man who should be in office is one who doesn't even salute his own fucking flag. this is true. but please dont tell me you want mccain I want McCain to win, though Obama coming from a racist background toward Caucasians is...eh, lol. As Asian I can hardly care, better that he gets into some idea of removing affirmative action, as unlikely as that is, if we have to suffer Obama being president :p As for loyalty toward the US, who cares, as long as he can do his job right, I have more of a problem regarding that. It isn't like he will be selling out the US if he can do his job right, who cares about minor detail like saluting the flag. Klogon, I assume we are talking about purely domestic funds, right? Nothing insane like foreign (cough China cough Latin America) funds.
china doesnt need american funds lol. the money going from the US to china, its all used to purchase merchandise...we arent giving china free money...we ARE however giving north korea supplies.
are u trying to get drafted?
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