EPTPURGE 2008: A month of posting behaviour evaluated - Page 23
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alffla
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
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Voilà. | ||
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Pervect
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t_co
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spydernoob
Canada1066 Posts
edit: idk maybe a 6? i did add a few songs to the pro scene music thread, and the past few weeks have been posting real opinions. | ||
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OhThatDang
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VIB
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evanthebouncy!
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evanthebouncy!
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A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. A well thought out and sober post. A rebuttal I don't want a steady and sober managment style for this forum. I want spates of flames and bad posters, I want new vs old, I wantmods abusing their power. I want posters to fear for their lives, and I want rivers of blood to flow for no particular reason other than somebody felt like it. I want this purge to have teeth, I want some questionable bans, I want controversy damn it. The last thing I want from a TL purge is an orderly and sensible banning of the worst posters. Ban them all. Hand out temp bans like candy, permabans like slightly more expensive candy, and hit hard and hit often. Otherwise you're unworthy of the name purge, unworthy of the image of death carrying a sychthe, and I'll daresay unworthy of the hammer and sickle | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:24 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Yes, it exists, but will we deliberately allow two persons to ban while being drunk? Will we give them the freedom to unleash such meaningful actions in order to after see other moderators come and say: "Yo, those dudes we allowed to ban while drunk should not have banned you. I'll unban you, yo". If we don't give them alcohol combined with the power to ban, there will be no such mess in the first place. Voilà. Lol there are only a few cases where this has ever been a real issue. | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. I agree with you 100% | ||
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SpaCe)Ment-rA
Canada389 Posts
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AdamBanks
Canada996 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. Someone finally got this side of the agruement right. However, i do appriecate being made aware of the concerns before someone banned me for something i had not relized was an issue. As such i do see some value in the 'purge'. I think the word purge got many people's backs up, its more of a kick in the pants. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On July 09 2008 15:09 evanthebouncy! wrote: It's the same tactic used by good o' communists in the cultural revolution, by the end of every day, we gather around in a circle discussing our guity deeds of captialism(Mr. Zhang has bought an obsenely amount of potatoes, such action is despeakable) and to confess in order not to be prosecuted. Bey I hope you realize the nasty implications and connotations of this thread, it is a truly ugly paranoia ridden place. A confident forum will not need periodic witch hunts but a consistent daily reinforcement of the rules, much like how the world is run, police man enforcing the laws constantly and consistently. It is not some hit on the forehead hot headed whim "oh shit yeah let's ban a load of people!" but rather a long term commitment. The need of a purge shows that teamliquid is not confident enough in its management powers and resort to threats to keep orders in place. I would ask the mods to be more confident in their abilities to cope with the bad posters consistently throughout the years instead of having a huge ban spike and then withdrawn into a lull. It's hard enforcing laws consistently and constantly though. Usually rules are enforced when laws are put into place, and then slow relaxed and exceptions are made. For instance, when speeding laws were put into place, I'm sure that people obeyed the speed limit until they realized that they could speed at almost no risk. In the same way, the Mods let one or two irreverent comments slide from senior forum members and it snowballed into the masses making irreverent comments. Especially after the spate of new members after TSL (I included, I suppose, but I beat TSL by 4 days or something) the Mods probably feel that the posting quality has degraded. A "consistent daily reinforcement of rules....[with] policemen enforcing laws constantly and consistently" while excellent in theory, is probably not practical for TL.net. Most of the Mods probably have jobs and lives outside of TL.net and don't have time to assess whether or not a poster has stepped over the line after every post. The purge happens now because they noticed a general downward trend in post quality and wish to remedy that with punitive action. Just my thoughts. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32152 Posts
On July 09 2008 13:07 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: No I don't. But I prefer prevention. If we can, by making one with common sense, avoid useless bans, we will do it. That is the least we can do for all those worthy members. I miss when I used to be in TL-west and Rek would come on drunk and ban the whole channel. And the purge is not because of a lack of confidence on the mods... lol. The influx of people who have no clue of the written and unwritten laws of this place from SC2, TSL, are why this is going on. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On July 10 2008 02:07 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: And I totally disagree. example of bad posting... If you are going to disagree with someone, make it more than one line and explain yourself clearly why! Don't just say "I disagree" and just start either an argument or a trolling war | ||
thedeadhaji
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On July 09 2008 13:24 SpaCe)Ment-rA wrote: Yes, it exists, but will we deliberately allow two persons to ban while being drunk? Will we give them the freedom to unleash such meaningful actions in order to after see other moderators come and say: "Yo, those dudes we allowed to ban while drunk should not have banned you. I'll unban you, yo". If we don't give them alcohol combined with the power to ban, there will be no such mess in the first place. Voilà. wassup chill--- high five! /* | ||
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