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On July 22 2012 04:58 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: Everybody here can crush a grapefuit here with their massive strong hands! Especially when the dog is biting you, cuz you got adrenaline and stuff. Dogs let you choke them, don't you know? Or you wrap them in a shirt, lol.
People are so delusional, this thread is frustratingly hilarious. There's no point in arguing.
Dog wins 999/1000.
You aren't arguing, you're just shouting sarcastically and hoping someone confuses that with an actual argument. 170 lb ape beats 70 lb dog.
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people are capable of doing a surprising amount of damage. it seems that the people who say "lol, tl'er/ average human iz squishy meatbag" are treating dogs as animals, but humans as something else weaker. wake up. humans are animals too. we're capable of some pretty crazy shit.
when i was like 8, i busted my chin real bad when i rode by bike into a concrete lamppost and got like 12 stitches in it. showed up to my karate class a week later all bandaged up. my instructor brushes my chin and it hurts like a bitch. next thing i know, i'm crying in a corner, and i've given him a fractured ankle, a couple broken fingers and nice set of bruises. this was an 80 lb 8 year old versus a trained adult probably twice his/my weight.
you could argue that "hey, you're a 80lb kid and you could do that much, imagine how much a dog that big could do". think about it the other way: if my karate instructor wanted me dead, i would be.
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On July 22 2012 04:58 SoLaR[i.C] wrote: Everybody here can crush a grapefuit here with their massive strong hands! Especially when the dog is biting you, cuz you got adrenaline and stuff. Dogs let you choke them, don't you know? Or you wrap them in a shirt, lol.
People are so delusional, this thread is frustratingly hilarious. There's no point in arguing.
Dog wins 999/1000.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually feel pain in such circumstances. I was involved in a severe car crash with my little brother and had my biceps tore off, shoulder dislocated and collarbone broken all in the same few seconds and walked it off like a boss, carrying my little brother out of the car (who, for the record, only had a badly bruised wrist). I think it took a full 2-ish minutes before I actually felt pain. That's not because I'm a bad-ass, that is because that is how your body works. When you go skydiving you are actually instructed to stay down on the ground if something goes wrong, because the adrenaline makes you virtually impervious to physical pain. I used to work as a first aid at a skydiving company and although nearly nothing ever went wrong in the years that I worked there, one time that was the case and the person hit the ground at an extremely high velocity. She just stood up like a boss, looking around confused and walked towards us, and that was with pretty much her whole lowerbody shattered (and she also had one broken wrist, broken humerus, broken ribs, broken pelvic bone, slipped discs and other stuff I fail to remember).
If you really think you are going to feel pain, you are most likely wrong. It can be compared to someone who pulls hair or scratches with nails in a fight - yes it may be unpleasant, but that's all there is to it. It is not dangerous at all. The dog can bite all the way through your arm, it doesn't actually matter right at that second (obv. blood loss/trauma is a problem later on). Keep him away from vital parts of your body and you cannot lose.
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On July 22 2012 04:57 Xiphos wrote: NOBODY have EVER thought of biting the dog in the neck themselves? I think that would be a viable strategy for those whose hand strength aren't that developed yet. Most Shepherds have sick neck muscles, at least aim for the throat. But then human teeth are not made to bit off meat. We even struggle with eating big steaks without using cutlery, how are you then gonna kill a live animal with your bite? And the most important point: If you get near his neck there's a huge chance he will actually bite you back at the area you least want him to get near.
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As long as you hit V after it pounces you, you should be fine.
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It depends on the dog.
Allow me to illustrate.
![[image loading]](http://www.k9puppy.co.uk/Members/Renescent/Renescent_A2010483713.jpg) DOG WINS
![[image loading]](http://www.dogfacts.org/Pomeranian-1.jpg) HUMAN WINS
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^ lol the OP specifically says German Shepherd, no weapons, in a medium sized room.
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i cant believe this thread has 46 pages
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On July 22 2012 05:06 Barrin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2008 05:39 Rekrul wrote: just let it bite you and head lock it and choke it to death, i guess if you fuck it up and it gets to ur neck you're fucked though
person Scrolled down til i found the first person who thought as I did. ur good rekrul :D and if the dog doesn't really rush right at you, you can probably just kick it's head really hard. I'm a bit bigger and stronger than the average guy, but I wouldn't reall fear for my life if I was in this situation. I'd be surprised if I came out unscathed though. TBH most dogs are really scared of me lol, but I guess this one would be trained. I'd give an average guy 60-90 out of 100, depending on how ready he was for it.
Problem is that choking the dog requires you to put your neck near its teeth.
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I think for me it would all come down to whether or not i was wearing shoes
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Dog would definitely win most of the time I think. They have weapons in their teeth, and if we have no weapon we have nothing to really kill them quickly with, and they are very quick and have really strong legs, so it would be difficult to pin down and if you don't pin it down at some point it'll probably get to your neck sooner or later. Kicking with shoes might work if you get lucky.
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Probably if you are wearing clothes that could serve as protective gear. I know a lot of dogs that will get preoccupied with biting and chomping down on the lose ends of your jeans or your jacket, not realizing that they are doing no damage to you. Shoes would definitely help protect your feet while kicking the dog.
I'd say if you are completely naked then dog's teeth would always connect with your flesh, plus the chance dog will bite your nuts off. GG.
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person ezzz, but the dog will get a bite or two off.
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Dogs will easily destroy most ppl. Most people aren't trained to fight dogs to the death unarmed. Some dogs however retain the instinct to fight. German shepherd? No question about it.
Knowledgeable person might have a shot. Most scenarios I can relate to don't involve 2 parties fighting to the death, but as long as human doesn't make silly pitfalls like trying to go for dog's head and lose psychologically right off the bat, I'd say human's chance is greatly increased.
Anyways better off learning passive gestures if German shepherd got you since it won't be to death realistically and you most likely won't have a chance. Dog pounce can clean knock the most hardcore of guys I've seen. That shit is no joke.
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More of a mental thing for the person than a physical thing. I think in a lot of situations a dog's natural reaction to danger is aggression, whereas most people are more inclined to solve a problem through other means, because this is how we've learned to deal with conflict as kids. If the person already knows that the danger is VERY REAL and the dog WILL kill them if given the chance, then I'd favour the person. Otherwise I feel the likely case would be that the person would attempt to diffuse or disable the danger, rather than eradicate it. Personally, I'd probably die to a 80lb dog because I wouldn't "believe" the danger was actually real and would have any defensive killer instinct supressed until it was already too late
Remove the sense of morality and I think your average 25 year old male should beat the dog more often than not.
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lol I just remembered something that my wing chun sifu did in our class once, a long time ago
Some guy in the class asked a similar question to this -- like, if dude X fought a pit bull, who would win. Sifu listens to everyone joke around for a bit, and then he says "I have a story."
He talks about this guy who in the 1800s was China's best kung-fu fighter, he won every tournament he fought etc. Eventually, he decides that people are boring to fight, and so he's going to move onto animals. The first animal he picks is an old lion at the local zoo. He promises the zookeepers that he won't hurt it too badly, because it's so old.
Kung fu dude gets into the cage and waits for the lion to charge. It charges; he moves to punch it, and the lion swipes his head off with one claw.
One guy in our class asked "Sifu, what's the point? We weren't talking about lions, we were talking about dogs."
And sifu answered "Animals don't fight like men. Men don't fight like animals."
True story lol
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I think most people could one shot the dog.
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