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On July 22 2012 08:12 Ohyra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 05:11 the p00n wrote:On July 22 2012 04:58 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Everybody here can crush a grapefuit here with their massive strong hands! Especially when the dog is biting you, cuz you got adrenaline and stuff. Dogs let you choke them, don't you know? Or you wrap them in a shirt, lol.
People are so delusional, this thread is frustratingly hilarious. There's no point in arguing.
Dog wins 999/1000. I'm pretty sure you don't actually feel pain in such circumstances. I was involved in a severe car crash with my little brother and had my biceps tore off, shoulder dislocated and collarbone broken all in the same few seconds and walked it off like a boss, carrying my little brother out of the car (who, for the record, only had a badly bruised wrist). I think it took a full 2-ish minutes before I actually felt pain. That's not because I'm a bad-ass, that is because that is how your body works. When you go skydiving you are actually instructed to stay down on the ground if something goes wrong, because the adrenaline makes you virtually impervious to physical pain. I used to work as a first aid at a skydiving company and although nearly nothing ever went wrong in the years that I worked there, one time that was the case and the person hit the ground at an extremely high velocity. She just stood up like a boss, looking around confused and walked towards us, and that was with pretty much her whole lowerbody shattered (and she also had one broken wrist, broken humerus, broken ribs, broken pelvic bone, slipped discs and other stuff I fail to remember). If you really think you are going to feel pain, you are most likely wrong. It can be compared to someone who pulls hair or scratches with nails in a fight - yes it may be unpleasant, but that's all there is to it. It is not dangerous at all. The dog can bite all the way through your arm, it doesn't actually matter right at that second (obv. blood loss/trauma is a problem later on). Keep him away from vital parts of your body and you cannot lose. You do not think that the same principle applies for dogs? EDIT: Had a friend who lost his pitbull about 3 weeks ago, thanks to it getting into a dogfight. The other dog owner actually just stomped the head of the pit, several times, until he got it to loosen it's grip of the other dog. The pitbull behaved just as it used to, until about 8 days after the incident, when it got some kind of sesiure and collapsed on the floor and died shortly after.
Subdural hematoma most likely cause
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On July 22 2012 07:33 sunprince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 05:36 cz wrote:On July 22 2012 05:06 Barrin wrote:On May 26 2008 05:39 Rekrul wrote:
just let it bite you and head lock it and choke it to death, i guess if you fuck it up and it gets to ur neck you're fucked though
person Scrolled down til i found the first person who thought as I did. ur good rekrul :D and if the dog doesn't really rush right at you, you can probably just kick it's head really hard. I'm a bit bigger and stronger than the average guy, but I wouldn't reall fear for my life if I was in this situation. I'd be surprised if I came out unscathed though. TBH most dogs are really scared of me lol, but I guess this one would be trained. I'd give an average guy 60-90 out of 100, depending on how ready he was for it. Problem is that choking the dog requires you to put your neck near its teeth. Rear naked chokes, Ezekiel chokes, and D'arce chokes are all safe. A properly executed arm triangle choke would probably block the dog's head with it's front leg as well. Given the weight disparity between a typical adult male human and a German shephard, you could also use a body triangle (from back mount, as doing this from guard could get you bitten in the torso) or do jime (assuming you can reach the dog's front legs from guard) to choke out the dog via trunk compression.
LOL at arm triangle on a dog. That is the greatest image I've ever imagined..
I was thinking a body triangle would probably be fine. Don't know about a D'arce to be honest I think your second arm would be too close to it's mouth.
Assuming you shifted your weight correctly above the dogs head/neck you could probably snap on a pretty nice anaconda.
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I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
That said I know for a fact that a human would win this fight provided they know what they are doing.
I say human 70%
Dog 30%
Comes down to human knowing how to choke properly and being able to consciously let the dog bite your arm.
Edit: Yeah also if your in decent shape I'm fairly sure you can kill a dog with a body triangle by snapping its spine.
Peruvian necktie/guillotine would without a doubt work the most effectively because you would render the dogs bite useless behind your shoulder (much harder position to get into though.)
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On July 22 2012 07:48 fatfail wrote:
Only way I could think of to win would be to shove your arm as deep as possible into the dog's throat. While the dog is gagging, you could poke its eyes, punch its head repeatedly, or strangle it. You might lose your arm, but I think you could win.
Yeah this is the correct strategy for dealing with dogs from what I've heard. When they bite your hand/arm, the worst thing to do is to instinctively pull away, as anyone who's played with a dog knows they're great a tug of war and will rip you to shreds before you get away. But they aren't built for biting something that's being shoved into their throat, so you should be able to damage them and make them gag.
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there is a reason humans use tools to hunt...
barehanded vs a big dog? Even if you win.. Everyone will see forever what bit you.
[x]Dog
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On July 22 2012 09:34 EpidemicSC wrote:
I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
And your evidence for this? I'm not saying it's wrong, cause there is so much laziness in America, but you can't say that the average American is like that.
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On July 22 2012 04:13 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Do you realize how utterly weak, out of shape, and just overall a massive pussy the average person is? You assholes can't even manipulate a mouse to stutter step marines properly, let alone have the dexterity to kill a dog.
Not one person on this forum could kill a vicious dog in a fight to the death. Not one.
I swear some of you are clinically retarded: "DUDE BLOCK IT'S BITE WITH ARM AND KICK. DONE". "POKE OUT ITS EYES OR CHOKE IT LOL."
While you are trying gouge it's eyes with your feeble claw-less fingers that are barely capable of picking up any substantial amount of weight, the dog has released and sunk it's two inch fangs directly into your stupid face.
Dog wins 999/1000.
Kind of suprised nothing was done with this rage insult. MODS??
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mmm aren't all wild dog like creatures complete pussies in the wild? If i remember correctly nothing but thiefs(hynena's) and slowly bleed to dead or die by infection(wolfes).Not to mention it's always in big packs vs a solo target.
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On July 22 2012 09:34 EpidemicSC wrote:
I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
That said I know for a fact that a human would win this fight provided they know what they are doing.
I say human 70%
Dog 30%
Comes down to human knowing how to choke properly and being able to consciously let the dog bite your arm.
Edit: Yeah also if your in decent shape I'm fairly sure you can kill a dog with a body triangle by snapping its spine.
Peruvian necktie/guillotine would without a doubt work the most effectively because you would render the dogs bite useless behind your shoulder (much harder position to get into though.)
Haha are mods gone from this thread? He can insult americans so harshley and not even get a warning? Is it because he says hes U.S? I dont get it.
There is really isnt much of a fucking difference between how hard americans and europeans work. In all honestly tho if you were ganna compare it would probably be Americans working harder than a typical western european. Americans and Europeans have it fucking easy compared to the rest of the world. Tho I know that what I'll say wont change your downright ignorance so I'll not argue
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Dog. Dogs can bite through bone, if he bites you anywhere and you aren't trained to resist pain, you are going to roll over and cry and die.
Sorry guys, you really are weaker than you think you are. A dog was built to be a high speed hunting machine by evolution, we were built to be intelligent and resourceful. We don't even compete with any dog that sets out to kill us.
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I say 40-50 in the dogs favor. I imagine most ppl would panic like fuck
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On July 22 2012 10:49 H2OSno wrote:
Dog. Dogs can bite through bone, if he bites you anywhere and you aren't trained to resist pain, you are going to roll over and cry and die.
Sorry guys, you really are weaker than you think you are. A dog was built to be a high speed hunting machine by evolution, we were built to be intelligent and resourceful. We don't even compete with any dog that sets out to kill us.
I lol'd. Most domestic dogs would have trouble hunting food if their lives depended on it. I can't fathom most of them actually being able to beat a human provided one isn't grossly larger than the other.
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The cost of posting in this thread should be being thrown into the situation described.
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On July 22 2012 09:34 EpidemicSC wrote:
I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
This is so wrong I don't even know what to say. LOL
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On July 22 2012 10:57 stevarius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 10:49 H2OSno wrote:
Dog. Dogs can bite through bone, if he bites you anywhere and you aren't trained to resist pain, you are going to roll over and cry and die.
Sorry guys, you really are weaker than you think you are. A dog was built to be a high speed hunting machine by evolution, we were built to be intelligent and resourceful. We don't even compete with any dog that sets out to kill us. I lol'd. Most domestic dogs would have trouble hunting food if their lives depended on it. I can't fathom most of them actually being able to beat a human provided one isn't grossly larger than the other.
The average human would have trouble hunting for food too...
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You don't have to just be "fit" to beat the dog, you have to be well built with actual functioning strength. The poll is at 70%, but in reality the percentage of the population that are in the condition to overpower a dog is much lower.
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This reminds me of the "How many 5 year olds can you take out?" thread. ^^
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On July 22 2012 11:04 autoexec wrote:
This reminds me of the "How many 5 year olds can you take out?" thread. ^^
Candy IEDs.
I hate children.
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All depends on the size of the dog. I can take my brothers 60ish pound pit. Its a big dog but not really. My boss's 100+ lb pit would destroy me. I have trouble fighting it off when its trying to kiss my face, and its neck has more muscle then my thigh. This is not a dog you are going to 'choke out'.
Also not sure why people are talking about being fine as long as they aren't taken to the ground. What do you think happens when a 100 lb dog grabs your arm? You think it stays standing up? It pulls you down with it. Once on the ground, you lose. So most of you are saying.. as long as the dog doesn't bite me, I win.
Side note: If you know multiple fighting styles and have been training for years, you aren't the average person. 100lb pit isnt an average dog either, but I have seen GS that are over 100lbs as well and would say they also would have near the same chance of overpowering a person. Should also think of this as a sudden event. You are blindfolded, thrown in a room, blindfold off and dog is released. Not take hours to think up the best scenario on how to win the fight, just thrown in the shit and good luck.
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On July 22 2012 10:59 whatusername wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 09:34 EpidemicSC wrote:
I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
This is so wrong I don't even know what to say. LOL
Hahahahaha so funny LOL
9/10
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