|
On July 22 2012 11:46 BoonSolo wrote:
This scenario basically happened to me.
I was decorating a guys house and he had a big german shepard as a guard dog. It was always locked away when i went to the dudes house but it barked and jumped at the fence like crazy constantly.
One time I go round and the gate was open it ran up to me and bit my leg i kicked it and it ran away and the guy came out and stopped it. My leg was bleeding and shit. Anyways the next time I go there i check and the gates open again and it starts barking and running at me, I knew it was coming to attack me (again) like it did the week before.
When it jumped up at me I grabbed out with my hands and ended up grabbing its back legs. As it knocked me over i pulled its legs away from eachother and dislocated them it just couldnt move and was whimpering on the floor, I felt really bad and the guy came out and fucking told me to gtfo without paying me. But the dog ended up walking again I think.
I guess I got fucking lucky with how it happened and it certainly would have fucked me up i didnt grab its legs
I would have considered doing the same to the owner what you did to the dog. What an asshole, to blame you for defending yourself from his dog that should have been locked up. I would have raised hell with him.
|
On July 22 2012 12:21 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 11:45 EpidemicSC wrote:
[I am an American, not biased.
Just saying that if you're taking the average human from America you're likely to get someone who's overweight or obese.
From Europe you are at least likely to get someone who is thin.
Don't see how you can really argue with that?? Because the majority of Americans are not obese or overweight. Granted we have a huge problem, it's far from that 50% point. To just assume a far American is biased.
Maybe you don't know what the official definition of overweight is. Overweight is not at all a synonym for obese, or even fat. Overweight is a point where it's considered clearly an unhealthy weight — BMI over 27 or something, I can't remember.
Last I've heard, about 2/3rds of US citizens are overweight or obese, so you are wrong about it being under 50%.
On July 22 2012 11:24 dp wrote:
Should also think of this as a sudden event. You are blindfolded, thrown in a room, blindfold off and dog is released. Not take hours to think up the best scenario on how to win the fight, just thrown in the shit and good luck. Why? Would it be more realistic? How about blindfold the dog and let the human get the advantage. I see many many dogs are just left lying in a city street or person's yard and they're oblivious to everyone — if someone wanted to kill that dog it would be screwed. You can't compare a wild hunter dog when virtually all dogs are domestic city slickers.
Heck, to be the most realistic would be a human with access to all the objects around him which he can use as weapons — it only makes sense. Logically if the human and dog were in the wild the human would have weapons and the dog would just be more avid at fighting and hunting.
On July 21 2012 20:52 Killmo wrote:
This is insane. Let me put this in perspective for some of you people who think you could win a fight against a dog. I used to have a bloodhound who weight a hair under one hundred pounds. He was the aggressive type when it came to food. He would never try to kill me, but he would chomp the hell out of me whenever I got too close to him while he was pissed off. He and I got in at least seven fights over his life.
Now for the part that is more relevant. I am 6' 4" and was 300 LBs at the time. I lost every single one of the fights. If he had at any point wanted to kill me I would have had less than a 1% chance of stopping him. I have taken some classes and I know how to fight properly. I am by no mean pro, but I am much bigger, stronger, and well versed in fighting than an average person. Even with all of these advantages I was never a match.
Sounds like you're fat and out of shape if you're 300 lbs, even at 6'4" — if so, how would you expect to win aside from sitting on it? 100 pound dogs are not an average dog. The fight is supposed to be with roughly average specimens — lets say a 5'11' 160 lb male (or yourself like the thread says) vs a 35-40 kg dog (average weight). The OP never talked about dogs that large, so the provided example is useless.
To discuss dog weights, this seems to be a good reference: http://www.petsgetslim.co.uk/site-media/images/modules/advice/Dog_dogs_weights.pdf
|
On July 22 2012 14:23 Xapti wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 20:52 Killmo wrote:
This is insane. Let me put this in perspective for some of you people who think you could win a fight against a dog. I used to have a bloodhound who weight a hair under one hundred pounds. He was the aggressive type when it came to food. He would never try to kill me, but he would chomp the hell out of me whenever I got too close to him while he was pissed off. He and I got in at least seven fights over his life.
Now for the part that is more relevant. I am 6' 4" and was 300 LBs at the time. I lost every single one of the fights. If he had at any point wanted to kill me I would have had less than a 1% chance of stopping him. I have taken some classes and I know how to fight properly. I am by no mean pro, but I am much bigger, stronger, and well versed in fighting than an average person. Even with all of these advantages I was never a match. Sounds like you're fat and out of shape if you're 300 lbs, even at 6'4" — if so, how would you expect to win aside from sitting on it? 100 pound dogs are not an average dog. The fight is supposed to be with roughly average specimens — lets say a 5'11' 160 lb male vs a 35-40 lb dog. — that, or one's self vs such a dog — OP never talked about dogs that large. to discuss dog weights, this seems to be a good reference: http://www.petsgetslim.co.uk/site-media/images/modules/advice/Dog_dogs_weights.pdf
German Shepherds are not 40lbs, but they're not quite 100lbs either. A large german shepherd might weigh 80-90lbs. I believe that table may be in kg, or just incorrect.
|
I know this is outside of the rulebook, but as soon as you get a weapon of any kind you should be able to win against the dog.
|
On July 22 2012 14:41 McFeser wrote:
I know this is outside of the rulebook, but as soon as you get a weapon of any kind you should be able to win against the dog.
Oh really?
|
voted person.. depends on how the engagement went.. not sure what I'd so.. try to dodge, keep at a distance with powerful kicks.. not sure though, lol.
XD
|
On July 22 2012 14:41 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 14:41 McFeser wrote:
I know this is outside of the rulebook, but as soon as you get a weapon of any kind you should be able to win against the dog. Oh really?
Yes, it's true.
|
On July 22 2012 14:37 Cel.erity wrote:
German Shepherds are not 40lbs, but they're not quite 100lbs either. A large german shepherd might weigh 80-90lbs. I believe that table may be in kg, or just incorrect.
Oh yeah I wasn't paying attention. German shepards are totally more than that you're right; the chart isn't wrong, it's just in kg (the system that most people in the world use)
|
On July 22 2012 14:44 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 14:41 Cel.erity wrote:On July 22 2012 14:41 McFeser wrote:
I know this is outside of the rulebook, but as soon as you get a weapon of any kind you should be able to win against the dog. Oh really? Yes, it's true.
Congratulations, you have discovered the secret to mans domination over the animal world.
|
On July 22 2012 14:49 Coriolis wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 14:44 heliusx wrote:On July 22 2012 14:41 Cel.erity wrote:On July 22 2012 14:41 McFeser wrote:
I know this is outside of the rulebook, but as soon as you get a weapon of any kind you should be able to win against the dog. Oh really? Yes, it's true. Congratulations, you have discovered the secret to mans domination over the animal world.
Congratulations, you have discovered sarcasm. The secret to subtle humor
|
I don't see how I could lose, even though I'm only 172cm and 58KG.
The first contact is crucial; as long as I keep my cool and aim for a nice hard kick, I don't see how the dog could be my match.
It's going to be running at my at full speed, and as such I'll have the initiative - as it leaps to bite, I'll just aim for its head with a brutal heel kick. Nothing fancy like a roundhouse kick or anything of the sort, concentrated energy and accuracy is key.
If I can break someone's leg with a heel kick, I don't see how a dog's head could fare much better either.
Edit:
A kick like this:
![[image loading]](http://info.jamesshermankravmaga.com/images/home-features/heel-kick.jpg)
Bend knee as if about to step on something, then extend with full strength with heel at the front. I only did taekwondo for a year during high school, and during sparring a heel kick of mine completely dislocated the other guy's patella (knee cap) and fractured his tibia, basically his leg just bent the wrong way. I was horrified but impressed at the same time at how much force a heel kick with good form can inflict.
|
On July 22 2012 14:41 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 14:41 McFeser wrote:
I know this is outside of the rulebook, but as soon as you get a weapon of any kind you should be able to win against the dog. Oh really?
If I had a bat I could outrange the dog, and one successful blow to the head would carry enough leverage to incapacitate the dog to a degree that subsequent blows would be easier. At that point you could the dog to death withstanding he doesn't run away first. If you had a knife, it would advantageous to stick it inside his mouth (Don't try stabbing into his flesh - it's actually really hard). If you had a sweater, or something thick, you could win easily.
I've actually thought about this ever since I saw this large pit bull chase down this man at the park. I heard the pit bull long before I ever saw him (I was riding my bike) and coming up upon him I was surprised he didn't pull the tree down that he was chained to. Eventually the little bastard broke the chain (Or something happened) because next thing I know he's chasing down a three hundred pound man that was waddling away from him. It was actually kind of funny . . . The guy had a girly fit and started waving his hands away saying "Your fucking dog! It's fucking here now!". Anyways, they (The owners that had been ignoring the dog) chase him down and chain him back up. Took three people to pull him back. So I saw this and tried to figure out the best way to stop the dog.
The best that I could figure would be to take my coat and wrap it around my arm. Let the dog bight that, avoid getting bitten in the face, and once the dog has bitten down hold his jaw tight with my other arm. From their I think I could suffocate him. Safest bet though, is just to kick a few times and that would probably scare the dog away.
|
On July 22 2012 14:56 EngrishTeacher wrote:
I don't see how I could lose, even though I'm only 172cm and 58KG.
The first contact is crucial; as long as I keep my cool and aim for a nice hard kick, I don't see how the dog could be my match.
It's going to be running at my at full speed, and as such I'll have the initiative - as it leaps to bite, I'll just aim for its head with a brutal heel kick. Nothing fancy like a roundhouse kick or anything of the sort, concentrated energy and accuracy is key.
If I can break someone's leg with a heel kick, I don't see how a dog's head could fare much better either.
Don't forget to finish him off with a hadouken for extra measure.
|
On July 22 2012 14:58 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 14:56 EngrishTeacher wrote:
I don't see how I could lose, even though I'm only 172cm and 58KG.
The first contact is crucial; as long as I keep my cool and aim for a nice hard kick, I don't see how the dog could be my match.
It's going to be running at my at full speed, and as such I'll have the initiative - as it leaps to bite, I'll just aim for its head with a brutal heel kick. Nothing fancy like a roundhouse kick or anything of the sort, concentrated energy and accuracy is key.
If I can break someone's leg with a heel kick, I don't see how a dog's head could fare much better either. Don't forget to finish him off with a hadouken for extra measure.
Then rip out his heart so you know he is dead.
|
On July 22 2012 15:03 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 14:58 heliusx wrote:On July 22 2012 14:56 EngrishTeacher wrote:
I don't see how I could lose, even though I'm only 172cm and 58KG.
The first contact is crucial; as long as I keep my cool and aim for a nice hard kick, I don't see how the dog could be my match.
It's going to be running at my at full speed, and as such I'll have the initiative - as it leaps to bite, I'll just aim for its head with a brutal heel kick. Nothing fancy like a roundhouse kick or anything of the sort, concentrated energy and accuracy is key.
If I can break someone's leg with a heel kick, I don't see how a dog's head could fare much better either. Don't forget to finish him off with a hadouken for extra measure. Then rip out his heart so you know he is dead.
But he'll be disintegrated by the hadouken... Mine's level is over 9000.
|
On July 22 2012 15:05 EngrishTeacher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 15:03 McFeser wrote:On July 22 2012 14:58 heliusx wrote:On July 22 2012 14:56 EngrishTeacher wrote:
I don't see how I could lose, even though I'm only 172cm and 58KG.
The first contact is crucial; as long as I keep my cool and aim for a nice hard kick, I don't see how the dog could be my match.
It's going to be running at my at full speed, and as such I'll have the initiative - as it leaps to bite, I'll just aim for its head with a brutal heel kick. Nothing fancy like a roundhouse kick or anything of the sort, concentrated energy and accuracy is key.
If I can break someone's leg with a heel kick, I don't see how a dog's head could fare much better either. Don't forget to finish him off with a hadouken for extra measure. Then rip out his heart so you know he is dead. But he'll be disintegrated by the hadouken... Mine's level is over 9000.
We haven't talked about the dog's ghost yet and what he could do.
|
On July 22 2012 15:06 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 15:05 EngrishTeacher wrote:On July 22 2012 15:03 McFeser wrote:On July 22 2012 14:58 heliusx wrote:On July 22 2012 14:56 EngrishTeacher wrote:
I don't see how I could lose, even though I'm only 172cm and 58KG.
The first contact is crucial; as long as I keep my cool and aim for a nice hard kick, I don't see how the dog could be my match.
It's going to be running at my at full speed, and as such I'll have the initiative - as it leaps to bite, I'll just aim for its head with a brutal heel kick. Nothing fancy like a roundhouse kick or anything of the sort, concentrated energy and accuracy is key.
If I can break someone's leg with a heel kick, I don't see how a dog's head could fare much better either. Don't forget to finish him off with a hadouken for extra measure. Then rip out his heart so you know he is dead. But he'll be disintegrated by the hadouken... Mine's level is over 9000. We haven't talked about the dog's ghost yet and what he could do.
Can you not read? Him's level is over 9000.
|
On July 22 2012 15:12 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 15:06 McFeser wrote:On July 22 2012 15:05 EngrishTeacher wrote:On July 22 2012 15:03 McFeser wrote:On July 22 2012 14:58 heliusx wrote:On July 22 2012 14:56 EngrishTeacher wrote:
I don't see how I could lose, even though I'm only 172cm and 58KG.
The first contact is crucial; as long as I keep my cool and aim for a nice hard kick, I don't see how the dog could be my match.
It's going to be running at my at full speed, and as such I'll have the initiative - as it leaps to bite, I'll just aim for its head with a brutal heel kick. Nothing fancy like a roundhouse kick or anything of the sort, concentrated energy and accuracy is key.
If I can break someone's leg with a heel kick, I don't see how a dog's head could fare much better either. Don't forget to finish him off with a hadouken for extra measure. Then rip out his heart so you know he is dead. But he'll be disintegrated by the hadouken... Mine's level is over 9000. We haven't talked about the dog's ghost yet and what he could do. Can you not read? Him's level is over 9000.
It doesn't matter how high his level is if he doesn't know the right dragon shout to scare the ghost away.
|
On July 22 2012 12:21 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 11:45 EpidemicSC wrote:On July 22 2012 10:23 Tabbris wrote:On July 22 2012 09:34 EpidemicSC wrote:
I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
That said I know for a fact that a human would win this fight provided they know what they are doing.
I say human 70%
Dog 30%
Comes down to human knowing how to choke properly and being able to consciously let the dog bite your arm.
Edit: Yeah also if your in decent shape I'm fairly sure you can kill a dog with a body triangle by snapping its spine.
Peruvian necktie/guillotine would without a doubt work the most effectively because you would render the dogs bite useless behind your shoulder (much harder position to get into though.) Haha are mods gone from this thread? He can insult americans so harshley and not even get a warning? Is it because he says hes U.S? I dont get it. There is really isnt much of a fucking difference between how hard americans and europeans work. In all honestly tho if you were ganna compare it would probably be Americans working harder than a typical western european. Americans and Europeans have it fucking easy compared to the rest of the world. Tho I know that what I'll say wont change your downright ignorance so I'll not argue I am an American, not biased. Just saying that if you're taking the average human from America you're likely to get someone who's overweight or obese. From Europe you are at least likely to get someone who is thin. Don't see how you can really argue with that?? Because the majority of Americans are not obese or overweight. Granted we have a huge problem, it's far from that 50% point. To just assume a far American is biased. As for me. Personally I wouldn't put too much money on myself to defeat a german shepard, I'm fairly skinny and I don't know if I would win or not.
I think someone already responded to you but, here it's easy to use google.
There's even a chart for easy reading!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States
|
What if this German Shepherd was a Navy Seals one with Titanium teeth...
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
