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On July 22 2012 12:21 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 11:45 EpidemicSC wrote:On July 22 2012 10:23 Tabbris wrote:On July 22 2012 09:34 EpidemicSC wrote:
I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
That said I know for a fact that a human would win this fight provided they know what they are doing.
I say human 70%
Dog 30%
Comes down to human knowing how to choke properly and being able to consciously let the dog bite your arm.
Edit: Yeah also if your in decent shape I'm fairly sure you can kill a dog with a body triangle by snapping its spine.
Peruvian necktie/guillotine would without a doubt work the most effectively because you would render the dogs bite useless behind your shoulder (much harder position to get into though.) Haha are mods gone from this thread? He can insult americans so harshley and not even get a warning? Is it because he says hes U.S? I dont get it. There is really isnt much of a fucking difference between how hard americans and europeans work. In all honestly tho if you were ganna compare it would probably be Americans working harder than a typical western european. Americans and Europeans have it fucking easy compared to the rest of the world. Tho I know that what I'll say wont change your downright ignorance so I'll not argue I am an American, not biased. Just saying that if you're taking the average human from America you're likely to get someone who's overweight or obese. From Europe you are at least likely to get someone who is thin. Don't see how you can really argue with that?? Because the majority of Americans are not obese or overweight. Granted we have a huge problem, it's far from that 50% point. To just assume a far American is biased. As for me. Personally I wouldn't put too much money on myself to defeat a german shepard, I'm fairly skinny and I don't know if I would win or not.
i know other people have commented on this but i like how you make claims without any substance behind them
"the majority of americans are not obese or overweight" lol!
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I feel confident in my athletic ability and my speed/agility that I could pummel a dog that was trying to eat me.
I understand dogs are wild animals that can be unpredictable and vicious, but fuck... humans are animals too, and if it came down to life or death, I would win against any dog 1v1. Multiple dogs at once now is a different beast.
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Well the human definately has more potential, being bigger, fairly durable and having all those flexible limbs. But the dog would have a better killing instinct, and once it gets its teeth in your neck you're dead.
The way I'd fight is probably using my feet, just moving around and doing soccer kicks at the mutt. Probably wouldn't do damage, but it's a way to build up some adrenaline for when it finally latches onto my leg. Then just ignore the pain and wail on him, or hug him to death :p
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This is cruel but I would let him bite my leg and then I would gouge him in the eyes.
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On July 22 2012 16:11 Motivate wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 12:21 Zooper31 wrote:On July 22 2012 11:45 EpidemicSC wrote:On July 22 2012 10:23 Tabbris wrote:On July 22 2012 09:34 EpidemicSC wrote:
I'd say the average American loses (poor physical condition, generally just being pussies and unused to discomfort)
The average European wins (Often have a lot more physical activity throughout their lives, more used to hardship)
That said I know for a fact that a human would win this fight provided they know what they are doing.
I say human 70%
Dog 30%
Comes down to human knowing how to choke properly and being able to consciously let the dog bite your arm.
Edit: Yeah also if your in decent shape I'm fairly sure you can kill a dog with a body triangle by snapping its spine.
Peruvian necktie/guillotine would without a doubt work the most effectively because you would render the dogs bite useless behind your shoulder (much harder position to get into though.) Haha are mods gone from this thread? He can insult americans so harshley and not even get a warning? Is it because he says hes U.S? I dont get it. There is really isnt much of a fucking difference between how hard americans and europeans work. In all honestly tho if you were ganna compare it would probably be Americans working harder than a typical western european. Americans and Europeans have it fucking easy compared to the rest of the world. Tho I know that what I'll say wont change your downright ignorance so I'll not argue I am an American, not biased. Just saying that if you're taking the average human from America you're likely to get someone who's overweight or obese. From Europe you are at least likely to get someone who is thin. Don't see how you can really argue with that?? Because the majority of Americans are not obese or overweight. Granted we have a huge problem, it's far from that 50% point. To just assume a far American is biased. As for me. Personally I wouldn't put too much money on myself to defeat a german shepard, I'm fairly skinny and I don't know if I would win or not. i know other people have commented on this but i like how you make claims without any substance behind them "the majority of americans are not obese or overweight" lol!
Technically the majority of Americans are overweight, not obese though. It's about 60%. This is a bit of a tangent from the topic at hand though, we're talking about an average, somewhat-in-shape 20-something guy.
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mm guys overweight and obese are not the same thing....I believe obese percentage in USA is round 20-30ish
Besides who says it's a disadvantage to be obese in the fight vs a dog. Harder for the dog to get you to the ground and maybe you'll get luckey and land on the dog crushing it.
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the thing is if you knew what you were doing and could handle some pain you could beat a dog more often than it would beat you even a large one like a german shepherd. assuming no weapons for the person you try to kick it first since you do have much greater reach as well as manuverability (dogs jump predictably) if it ends up latching to a foot then your next best choice is idk.. likely to try and kill it by pushing a thumb into its eye and into the brain.
On July 22 2012 16:45 FraCuS wrote:
This is cruel but I would let him bite my leg and then I would gouge him in the eyes.
heh guess someone else has the general idea i have 
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wtf is this, ofc man is stronger, otherwise we'd have all been dogs today.
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i was attacked by a dog once(was 16), pretty big one with an owner who seems to have trained him pretty "good".
Was totally surprised and he came on top of me-could not move my arms proper, and the only thing i could do was keeping him barely off my throat.- and he was going after it, but he was trained.
It was one of the most shocking moments in life, a friend of mine kicked him really hard from behind and he did let go.
If he had not been there....
Well, but besides that: if you are not surprised and you manage to keep calm, you should have a pretty high chance of winning, maybe with some and even severe woundings.
I assume i could survive against a normal german shepdog, but i did a bit of MMA after that(i am 25 now). I don´t think a dog could survive skilled hits on nose and jaw.
But just hope nobody of us has to test it.....
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On July 22 2012 20:09 Tom Cruise wrote:
wtf is this, ofc man is stronger, otherwise we'd have all been dogs today.
Q: Do we usually hunt/kill animals with our bare hands or do we use other methods?
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I would expect a person to get pretty fucked up in such a fight. If you kept your cool and strangled the dog before you lost too much blood then I guess you could win. You'd probably lose an arm or something.
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Wooow. This is still going on? I can't believe this is such an interesting question though, gotta admit it's somehow really interesting to dicuss for sure hahaha, I know it piqued my interest.
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I believe that as long as the person has at least 30% weight advantage and does not panic, he will be able to win.
I have been attacked by a pretty large dog some years ago and I managed to hold my own easily until the owner came and restrained it.
If a dog attacked me today with the intention of killing me, I would leave it latch to an arm or a leg. If it got hold on my leg I would kick it hard, gauge its eyes out or grab it in a choke hold depending on the exact situation. I am confident in my upper body strength so if it got my arm it will be repeatedly slammed on the floor or on the walls or choked to death.
In case the dog manages to bring me on the ground to attack my neck - I would wrap one of my arms around my neck and use the other one to either choke it, gauge its eyes, or hit it repeatedly in the neck. Also take into consideration that there will be alot of adrenaline pumping thru a person in such situation. Even not very athletic person would easily throw a ~50kg dog away if he tried hard enough. Another possibility is to turn around and press the dog on the ground, then do whatever you want with it.
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On July 22 2012 15:58 DannyJ wrote:
What if this German Shepherd was a Navy Seals one with Titanium teeth...
What if the person was Chuck Norris?
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![[image loading]](http://www.dailymakeover.com/appImages/galleryImages/celebrity_hairstyles_men/Cesar_Millan%2BJul_14_2007.jpg)
This guy would blind them with his teeth reflecting the sunlight.
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The one thing I have learned from reading books written by Karl May is that you can easily kill a dog by dodging his attack (he will jump at you to get to your throat), grabbing his legs and smashing his head on a wall/the ground.
Human 1 0 dog.
Thank you Karl May.
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this topic is hiarious
it reminds me of all the times i've seen police release a dog on someone who is disorderly or fleeing, and then the person - who is of average weight and height - not only doesn't run from the dog, but turns around on the spot and kills it before escaping the police
oh wait no, that has not and will not ever happen. anyone who voted human is DELUSIONAL
the only way you would have ANY chance against any wild animal is with protective covering or a weapon. in a skin versus fur matchup, human stands 0 chance against nearly any wild creature except maybe a grape
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On July 22 2012 23:38 gtrsrs wrote:
this topic is hiarious
it reminds me of all the times i've seen police release a dog on someone who is disorderly or fleeing, and then the person - who is of average weight and height - not only doesn't run from the dog, but turns around on the spot and kills it before escaping the police
oh wait no, that has not and will not ever happen. anyone who voted human is DELUSIONAL
the only way you would have ANY chance against any wild animal is with protective covering or a weapon. in a skin versus fur matchup, human stands 0 chance against nearly any wild creature except maybe a grape
I don't think dogs have a definite preference for attacking weaker humans (children and older persons). Yet they are pretty much the only humans getting killed by dogs:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States
What is with people trying to generalize everything so much that they think they always hold some universal truth. Why do you think your truth is universally applicable, while this is highly situational? You might want to take note that some people in this thread have been attacked and are still here.
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On July 22 2012 23:50 peacenl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 23:38 gtrsrs wrote:
this topic is hiarious
it reminds me of all the times i've seen police release a dog on someone who is disorderly or fleeing, and then the person - who is of average weight and height - not only doesn't run from the dog, but turns around on the spot and kills it before escaping the police
oh wait no, that has not and will not ever happen. anyone who voted human is DELUSIONAL
the only way you would have ANY chance against any wild animal is with protective covering or a weapon. in a skin versus fur matchup, human stands 0 chance against nearly any wild creature except maybe a grape I don't think dogs have a definite preference for attacking weaker humans (children and older persons). Yet they are pretty much the only humans getting killed by dogs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_StatesWhat is with people trying to generalize everything so much that they think they always hold some universal truth. Why do you think your truth is universally applicable, while this is highly situational? You might want to take note that some people in this thread have been attacked and are still here.
On a side note, I am amazed at how stupid some people can be. Most of the deaths the owner ended up getting killed by his own pet, or killed a member of his/her family. I can sympathize partially with non-fighting dogs, but seriously if you leave a fighting dog alone with a toddler in the backyard wtf do you expect.
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i've survived a dog attack too...
but surviving a dog attack is not what this poll is about
this poll explicitly mentions fighting to the death.
when my 6-lb toy poodle/cocker-spaniel mix bites me when i play too rough with her, it hurts like hell. she's 13 years old and her teeth still puncture my skin. when that happens, i, a normal, 6'1" 185-lb 24-yo male, will always on instinct withdraw my hand.
now scale my dog up to 10x her weight and size, and put her in the prime of her life at 3-5 years old. now if she bites me, the pain will literally be too much to bear. she's has like 24 three-inch knives in her mouth. any bite anywhere is going to cause massive damage and more importantly massive pain.
i've been assaulted by a single human before. he sucker-punched me and knocked me to the floor. the rest of the "fight" was him pummeling me while i was down while i unsuccessfully tried to protect myself and slowly lost consciousness. fights are 80%+ of the time going to be determined by the first hit (or in the dog's case, bite). pain has massive negative effects on humans, especially normal, modern-day humans.
so the question comes down to would you be able to kill a dog before it got its first bite on you. and if you honestly think that with no training, that you, a normal-sized human could dodge/deflect/absorb a bite/lunge from a creature that has 0% body fat and can run 5-6x faster than you and jump 3-4x it's own height, i strongly suggest you make friends with your local billionaire so he can start outfitting you with gear, because you my friend are a real-life batman
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