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it would all come down to circumstances.
a dog charging a relaxed man in a small/narrow room will win easy.
in a room with decent pivot room, and the person is in a readied stance; the man would win.
animal attacks are so dangerous because of their surprise factor, which will easily blank the mind of the victim. however the OP presents the scenario as if both participants know what is going to happen.
intelligence and preparedness is the difference. the physical properties of a dog limits its avenues of attack, and if you see it coming you can plan your counter to the eventual lunge.
a prepared, regularly fit, intelligent adult would win; however, it would be no walk in the park.
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I think some of you are seriously underestimating humans in a life or death situation. Just through eye gouging alone, humans have an almost unfair advantage. Dog grabs your leg, you grab his ears with each of your fists and jam your thumbs through his eye sockets, game over.
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On July 21 2012 14:57 YODA_ wrote:
I think some of you are seriously underestimating humans in a life or death situation. Just through eye gouging alone, humans have an almost unfair advantage. Dog grabs your leg, you grab his ears with each of your fists and jam your thumbs through his eye sockets, game over. Thats true any cornered animal is scary, a dog that is trying to kill will be hard to stop even if you damage it badly, but that applies to us too, if we get cornered who knows what we can do in desperation.
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On July 21 2012 14:10 gurrpp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 13:56 GenesisX wrote:
You don't even need to read the responses in this thread to come to this conclusion: Dog will win by a longshot. Anyone who thinks a human will win the fight is really deluded or really really insanely strong. Like 400 pound muscle. A quick google search shows that the weight of a german shepherd is between 40 and 90 pounds. As a reasonably fit human, I'm confident I could easily overpower something like that. My choice approach in this situation would be to just kick it to death, however.
wtf are you even talking about?
adult german shepherds START at like 70 pounds. it's not uncommon for bigger ones to weigh up to 110 pounds. you honestly wouldn't have a fucking chance against one if they were truly set on killing you. angry dogs don't give the slightest shit if you fracture a few bones.
there's a reason police use dogs. cocky ass people think they can just kick the dog but end up getting thrashed around like a rag doll.
you're completely mistaken if you think you could "easily overpower" one. you're nowhere near as vicious as you'd like to think you are.
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Why is this thread here lol
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Your average person is relatively weak, cowardly, and panics in extremely high-stress situations.
Your average dog is genetically bred to kill if threatened. Shit, my Italian greyhound weighs 18 pounds, is dumb as a box of rocks, completely deaf, and scared of his own shadow, and yet when he feels like he gets threatened he'll immediately try to bite you in the neck. Furthermore, if we're talking about a German Shephard, that thing isn't even at the very top of the dog food chain and it can destroy most humans.
Goin' with the dog on this one, by a longshot.
I think some of you are seriously underestimating humans in a life or death situation. Just through eye gouging alone, humans have an almost unfair advantage. Dog grabs your leg, you grab his ears with each of your fists and jam your thumbs through his eye sockets, game over.
With the expanded mental capacity that humanity has compared to the rest of the animal kingdom, we've also picked up some drawbacks; with things like extreme cowardice (seen in most of the human population) and failure to deal with emotional stress (also very common), you can't assume a human is going to rationally think and act in a life or death situation. Your average human cowers in fear and starts crying if their life is suddenly threatened; your average dog will immediately defend itself. You are seriously overestimating the amount of humans that would have the mental fortitude to stay calm and take a course of action as controlled as taking a bite in the leg, then grabbing both ears and shoving your thumbs into its eye sockets. Not only that, dogs (especially German Shephards) thrash wildly once they grab hold of something in their mouths. You'd have a hard time even getting a hold of the ears.
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It depends on the human. If they shit themselves at the thought of pain they will die. If they let the dog bite say an arm the dog only has one mouth... the human two arms. With the second arm grab it and flip it and then press down on its throat. The dog will savage your arm but the trick is not to pull back. Push forward. The dog expects you to try and flee. The dog expects you to pull away. The dog doesn't expect you to push forward and force your arm further into its throat.
I play with a pitty in a regular basis. We play a tug of war. Thats how it plays. Dogs know one thing... bite and thrash. Works well if the victim is fleeing... not so much if the victim is trying to kill the dog with more than another mouth. Dogs are pack animals. 1v1 they aren't very effective killers. I would be much more shit scared of a big cat than any form of dog. Cats have claws and teeth.
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I'm pretty sure a fully grown German Shepard would completely destroy me. I imagine it would be like at least eight different kinds of indecent.
On the other hand, I think a trained MMA fighter would probably break the dog in half.
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I won't claim to know that i actually know shit about fighting dogs, but there's one thing i REALLY don't understand and that is how pain would play any significant factor into how a human would lose... I've never been that badly hurt but the worst times you don't even fucking realize you are seriously hurt immediately cause the real pain doesn't set in until much later, i just can't imagine it being a factor in a life or death fight.
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Avg. man would most prolly lose. Dog would instinctively go for throat for the kill while the man would prolly randomly throw fists around and shit himself. Now that I think about it, no contest imo.
Or maybe I'm taking too much stock in Call of the Wild. Gotta remember that a dog used to be a natural predator while humans were a natural prey. Maybe if the man had a club. That was such a good book. :D
Edit: A dog trying to kill you will not bite you in the leg or arm. He'll go straight for the throat. They're not very smart, but they're pretty darn instinctual when they actually go for the kill.
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i could probably fuck it up, i mean i might really lose an arm or something, but it cant bite 2 places at once.. so my alternate arm... or if its biting my legs i can use both, really all i need is my hard to really smash it LOL
also, speaking of which, me and a friend walk home from uni every day, and on the way theres always lose dogs and stray ones, we conducted a plan where that if one were to attack.. i would use my left arm as bait while my friend layed into the mongrel LMFAO, legit as fuk
edit: also when dogs bite dont they latch on and like never let go?? like they just decide to bite and rip the shit off one part?, they wouldnt say... bite aggressively on the left arm, make sure its injured, then back off and try get another part.....
2nd edit: read alot of things about the dogs really go for the neck? k im fucking dead then, i thought they just go wild at anything, so if u stick ur arm out, they'll just attack that, ive been watching to much police dog training programs i think
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Haha are you kidding me ? A German Shepard would rip the average person's throat before he has time to realize...
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I'm sure I could easily take on a dog. I'm double it's weight and am a decent fighter it wouldn't even be a challenge. No dog would ever be able to get at my neck if I knew it was coming.
The people who are saying "How can you kill a dog?" are crazy. How do you think people kill other people? Kick or punch it in the head, a lot more effective than against a human with double the weight, it will go down fast.
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I'm pretty sure German Shepherds go for the jugular or at least the neck out of wolf instinct.
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In this situation you will have to do something that seems counter intuitive, you have to put your arm, as deep in the mouth? of the dog as you can and hold him, the dog can not bite and will gag. You may suffer some inital damage on your arm, but that should not be critical.
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On July 21 2012 16:12 nihoh wrote:
I'm pretty sure German Shepherds go for the jugular or at least the neck out of wolf instinct. Interesting, so would a wolf or a dog win in a fight?
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It really depends upon the person, I for example have 3 Rottweilers and know the best way to fend off a large dog is to keep kicking up your knee (Aiming for its chest when its jumps on you)
But what I think it would most depend on if its a male or female dog. As for example with Rottweilers there is around a 10 kilo weight difference between their average sizes. Males also are more muscular and are much more aggressive.
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On July 21 2012 15:35 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Your average person is relatively weak, cowardly, and panics in extremely high-stress situations.
The average person is also an animal, and flight or fight also applies to them as well.
Our drive to survive would kick in and we would do anything necessary to survive in the given situation.
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On July 21 2012 17:24 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2012 15:35 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Your average person is relatively weak, cowardly, and panics in extremely high-stress situations.
The average person is also an animal, and flight or fight also applies to them as well. Our drive to survive would kick in and we would do anything necessary to survive in the given situation.
That really isn't how things work in real life.
The drive that switches on in a life or death situation and magically turns an average Joe the video gamer into Batman is just a myth. There is no "drive". There's just adrenaline.
People experienced in or trained to handle these situations can use this boost to fight harder or run faster to save their life.
Ordinary people are more likely to panic and fumble anything they try to do or simply freeze, depending on severity and danger of the situation.
PS. The dog should easily take this.
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what's the altitude and what did each have for breakfast?
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