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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 21 2012 08:59 GMT
#601
It can go either way, even if the man is prepared. Dogs are fast and likely to leap, so a kick in the face isn't really an option. Likely, the dog will end up on top or to the side of the man, biting his arm, with the man lying on his back in pain. The dog will now try to go for the throat. The man will punch the dog's nose, attack its eyes or try leg scissors, all while pushing the dog away from his head. Whoever makes their move faster will win. With the dog being the aggressor and a predator by instinct, I tend to say that's the dog.
albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
July 21 2012 09:00 GMT
#602
i cant speak for the weak, lazy, or under 15yr olds in this thread. but if an adult male loses to a german shepard. your doing it wrong. its going to bite you, its going to bite the shit out of you. it will hurt, u will yell and scream, and with that adrenaline, your going to be able to break just about anything you can get 2 hands on
every punch is thrown with bad intentions with the speed of a devil
DeAnconia
Profile Joined August 2011
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 09:05:43
July 21 2012 09:05 GMT
#603
Awesome that someone brought this conversation up... I actually have been bringing up this topic for fun group discussion with various friends for a few years now.

I usually start with an easier animal (say a racoon), where people usually say that while a human would definitely win, the racoon would at least draw a good amount of blood.

Dogs are good to bring up because there are such a variety in sizes and ferocity. The conversation usually ends with a tiger or bear where people unanimously say we don't stand chance.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9111 Posts
July 21 2012 09:06 GMT
#604
On May 26 2008 09:53 Jonoman92 wrote:
Wow I can't beleive so many people think they could kill a german shepard attacking you before it killed you. You'd be so fucked. I bet my 40 pound mixed breed could give me a run for my money.


I stand by my initial position.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 09:15:22
July 21 2012 09:13 GMT
#605
I've actually given this though before seeing this thread. Well i can't really give a hard fast opinion. For example, i think most people would just straight loose, like 90 percent of people. Then i think its a coin flip with the remaining 10 percent or so.

Though honestly i feel that if you took a Human with elite fighting skills, and showed them a 15 min video on how dogs like to attack. (which is probably against the rules, but i'm just making a point) I'm confident that those Humans would win very close to 95 percent of the time. I just feel that if an individual isn't blinded by fear, and has some experience fighting, Humans have a lot more options of attack at our disposal.

Also if your allowed to repeat the experiment, with an individual who won. I think they would get better and better at exploiting the dogs weaknesses.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
July 21 2012 09:14 GMT
#606
Only way for man to lose is if the dog makes a deadly bite in the neck.

A more interesting scenario:
1) Cheetah vs. a man in good shape (who works out a couple of time).
Would the man have any chance of winning?
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
July 21 2012 09:14 GMT
#607
German Shepherd will beat average human 100% sure. Humans have always used weapons to gain a edge over "stronger" animals.
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
July 21 2012 09:15 GMT
#608
No way the dog would win if average Joe was paying any amount of attention. 'Nuff said.
sieksdekciw
Profile Joined April 2012
240 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 09:25:16
July 21 2012 09:21 GMT
#609
On May 25 2008 12:19 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Alright, a few people from irc and I were talking, and we started, for some reason, debating whether or not a human could win in a fight 'to the death' against a dog.

For the sake of accuracy, I will present a specific situation for the poll.

You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?

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Poll: Dog or Human?
(Vote): Dog wins
(Vote): Person wins

Feel free to discuss your views in the thread.

Edit: sorry.

First of all, BEST thread ever. I am glad it is revived, otherwise I would have missed it.

I too have mused on the matter. Given my sheer weight, I believe I could win in a straight up fight against a dog, but it is going to be close. Depends if the dog gets me by the throat or not. If it gets a foot, it's over for the poor animal. I was thinking of punching it to the nose and then just putting on my weight onto its spine. Gotta crack.

Also, WIll Smith defeated his dog in I am Legend. He got a nice position, though...Rear naked choke is hard to get out of.

I find it animals are very hard to control once they start twitching and wiggling. Maybe vs dogs we can use kicks so the dog is not as close to our neck as it wants to? Has anybody tried it? Was it successful?
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
July 21 2012 09:21 GMT
#610
Unless he was either HUGE or had some sort of advanced training, the human would get owned pretty hardcore.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
July 21 2012 09:23 GMT
#611
I think the average grown man that doesn't sit on the PC all day long and actually goes outside can win this fight. But people saying you can actually kick the dog is wrong -.- If you kick it you do ZERO damage, maybe you tickle him a bit and move him by a few inches. You need to grab him by the neck or something like that.

I just feel sad about the people that are saying that a man would take it easily, dog stands no chance, you just have to kick it. It's not a ball, it moves, your kick will probably miss or just not hit in full force and then when he bites you and shakes you, you're goinng to fight for balance to stay up .. dunno 1v1 an average man ( by average I mean go outside and see how men actually are, gritty, sturdy, merciless) should have it. An average person sitting at his pc most of the day would sadly get his ass ripped off because his kicks wouldn't do any damage.
GoonFFS
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark323 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 09:24:09
July 21 2012 09:23 GMT
#612
dog.. kinda depends who gets the first big blow tho
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
July 21 2012 09:25 GMT
#613
Anyone who thinks that an average guy would have a good shot is horribly underestimating a German Shepherd's strength, speed, agility, reflexes, and killer instinct. In relationship to other mammals, humans have wit, intelligence, and innovation on their side, but are pathetic physical specimens.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 09:31:21
July 21 2012 09:26 GMT
#614
On July 21 2012 18:15 Areon wrote:
No way the dog would win if average Joe was paying any amount of attention. 'Nuff said.

'Nuff said? You have no facts or argument behind your conclusion. German Shepherds are used by the police to take down armed criminals carrying weapons making it impossible for the police to approach them without shooting them. You won't have time to react before you're down on the floor and unable to defend yourself against a trained police dog.

What most likely happen is that the dog will attack you and bit you in the arm or neck before you can even react. Then you will probably pass out from the pain. Your only chance to win in this position is if you can somehow have a protection to not take damage from the bite and then wrestle him down because hes too dumb to let go.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
July 21 2012 09:27 GMT
#615
There's a reason law enforcement use attack dogs; they are pretty fucking deadly. Is the dog in question a trained attack dog? Cause honestly I think your average joe would have no chance against an attack dog trying to kill. As somebody said earlier, dogs seem generally pretty submissive to humans so they appear deceptively weak, but a trained attack dog would probably chew straight through your average joe.
Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
July 21 2012 09:29 GMT
#616
On July 21 2012 18:26 Sorkoas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 18:15 Areon wrote:
No way the dog would win if average Joe was paying any amount of attention. 'Nuff said.

'Nuff said? You have no facts or argument behind your conclusion. German Shepherds are used by the police to take down armed criminals carrying weapons making it impossible for the police to approach them without shooting him. You won't have time to react before you're down on the floor and unable to defend yourself against a trained police dog.



You're not put 1v1 against a police dog. And you're in an arena, with all the time to prepare for the attack! U missed the whole poing of this thread.
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
July 21 2012 09:30 GMT
#617
On July 21 2012 18:29 Mondieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 18:26 Sorkoas wrote:
On July 21 2012 18:15 Areon wrote:
No way the dog would win if average Joe was paying any amount of attention. 'Nuff said.

'Nuff said? You have no facts or argument behind your conclusion. German Shepherds are used by the police to take down armed criminals carrying weapons making it impossible for the police to approach them without shooting him. You won't have time to react before you're down on the floor and unable to defend yourself against a trained police dog.



You're not put 1v1 against a police dog. And you're in an arena, with all the time to prepare for the attack! U missed the whole poing of this thread.

No big difference except he will most likely go for your neck instead then. Enjoy.
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
July 21 2012 09:31 GMT
#618
On July 21 2012 18:27 Ryder. wrote:
There's a reason law enforcement use attack dogs; they are pretty fucking deadly. Is the dog in question a trained attack dog? Cause honestly I think your average joe would have no chance against an attack dog trying to kill. As somebody said earlier, dogs seem generally pretty submissive to humans so they appear deceptively weak, but a trained attack dog would probably chew straight through your average joe.


the same could be said about anyone who is familiar with large dogs
IM THE SHIT BITCH
sieksdekciw
Profile Joined April 2012
240 Posts
July 21 2012 09:31 GMT
#619
On July 21 2012 18:27 Ryder. wrote:
There's a reason law enforcement use attack dogs; they are pretty fucking deadly. Is the dog in question a trained attack dog? Cause honestly I think your average joe would have no chance against an attack dog trying to kill. As somebody said earlier, dogs seem generally pretty submissive to humans so they appear deceptively weak, but a trained attack dog would probably chew straight through your average joe.

Yep, but a man trained to kill probably wouldn't have a problem chewing through your average Lassie. Physically, the average grown man is stronger than a dog. I mean in sheer muscles strength. The problem are the jaws. But if you manage somehow to immobilize the jaws, I think you can win.
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
July 21 2012 09:32 GMT
#620
Dog wins against random Joe, no contest. The guy will porbably be overwhelmed by the violence of the situation to a point where they don't even fight back. Melee is all about composure and familiarity.

If the person is large and / or highly athletic with a background in physical sports it's an even fight leaning towards the human.

An elite MMA fighter destroys the dog unless it gets really lucky and hits something vital around the neck asap.
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