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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
May 15 2008 00:21 GMT
#201
Hey I'm just wondering if anyone that won a TL shirt got it by now... because I haven't gotten mine yet.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
JellyCat
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada138 Posts
May 15 2008 00:44 GMT
#202
I just got mine!

Haha it looks great, I'm kinda of impress by the printing (at least you can see the details). Hopefully it will last after washings (reverse before washing guys :d)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20090 Posts
May 15 2008 01:08 GMT
#203
On May 15 2008 05:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 02:03 oneofthem wrote:
As of right now I see no reason to purchase one of these. I may change my mind should possession of the t-shirt be restricted to a functional elite within the website or if the prices were increased as to endow its possessor with exceptional economic class. As conditions presently stand, wearing the brand logo of tl.net is a net loss, given the lost opportunity cost of sporting a more socially prestigious outfit.
Despite the polished prose, you've yet to grasp basic economics, unless of course people on the streets readily perceive the price of a good without the aid of socially recognized markers of worthiness.


Why is it that all your responses to me are the consequence of a either limited reading comprehension or narrow interpretive faculties?

I'll spell it out more clearly here: The social value of the tl.net logo is, for most instances, neutral, or, upon inquiry, possibly a social minus. In other words, it is approximately equal in value or slightly less to a blank white t-shirt. While this by itself doesn't equate to much in lost value, the loss of possibility of wearing a more prestigious logo makes the social cost of the t-shirt considerable. Generally we purchase something when we perceive its value to be higher than the monetary value demanded. Therefore the net loss of wearing a tl.net shirt must be calculated as follows:

(value of preferred shirt - its monetary cost) - (value of tl.net shirt - its monetary cost)



Pussy.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
May 15 2008 01:36 GMT
#204
On May 14 2008 22:43 mnm wrote:
if u want more female pics, u need to help me find 23 females that will wear xs tl tank tops =[.

i wear my tl shirt to bed since its big on me =p.


My girl will wear one.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 02:51:11
May 15 2008 02:50 GMT
#205
On May 15 2008 05:01 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2008 02:03 oneofthem wrote:
As of right now I see no reason to purchase one of these. I may change my mind should possession of the t-shirt be restricted to a functional elite within the website or if the prices were increased as to endow its possessor with exceptional economic class. As conditions presently stand, wearing the brand logo of tl.net is a net loss, given the lost opportunity cost of sporting a more socially prestigious outfit.
Despite the polished prose, you've yet to grasp basic economics, unless of course people on the streets readily perceive the price of a good without the aid of socially recognized markers of worthiness.


Why is it that all your responses to me are the consequence of a either limited reading comprehension or narrow interpretive faculties?

I'll spell it out more clearly here: The social value of the tl.net logo is, for most instances, neutral, or, upon inquiry, possibly a social minus. In other words, it is approximately equal in value or slightly less to a blank white t-shirt. While this by itself doesn't equate to much in lost value, the loss of possibility of wearing a more prestigious logo makes the social cost of the t-shirt considerable. Generally we purchase something when we perceive its value to be higher than the monetary value demanded. Therefore the net loss of wearing a tl.net shirt must be calculated as follows:

(value of preferred shirt - its monetary cost) - (value of tl.net shirt - its monetary cost)


oy, masterful deflection here. i expected you to say that the price of the shirt would definitely be known to tl.netters thus owning the pricey shirt would be demonstrative of one's wealth on tl. i would follow by asking, rhetorically, whether you take your status on tl seriously enough to buy a pricey shirt for it.

or perhaps i tried to do too much with this short sentence:
unless of course people on the streets readily perceive the price of a good without the aid of socially recognized markers of worthiness.
means that even if you spend a million dollars on a tl.net shirt, unless you make a funny sign advertising the shirt's price, no one will know that it is a million dollar shirt. contrast the 'shirt i brought from the internets' with well known luxuries like diamonds or fur, the point should be clear.

in any case, masterful deflection.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
May 15 2008 02:56 GMT
#206
Are any more shirts going to be made/sold?

I missed the first batch dangit T_T
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 15 2008 02:56 GMT
#207
we seriously need a Moltke vs Oneofthem showmatch in philosophical debate or something.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 03:01:12
May 15 2008 03:00 GMT
#208
lol not worth it!
Moderator<:3-/-<
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
May 15 2008 03:06 GMT
#209
On May 15 2008 11:56 thedeadhaji wrote:
we seriously need a Moltke vs Oneofthem showmatch in philosophical debate or something.


To be settled in a bo27. Debates are overrated.
^_~
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
May 15 2008 03:07 GMT
#210
troll trolling trolls
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
May 15 2008 03:30 GMT
#211
On May 15 2008 11:56 thedeadhaji wrote:
we seriously need a Moltke vs Oneofthem showmatch in philosophical debate or something.


That would just take forever... one of them is intelligent and persistant, the other is a brick wall.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 15 2008 03:42 GMT
#212
--- Nuked ---
crayontire
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada14 Posts
May 15 2008 03:46 GMT
#213
ugh i want 1. so bad
When heavens not waiting, it's spilling its secrets
crayontire
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada14 Posts
May 15 2008 03:52 GMT
#214
sorry duble post.

Where do u get 1! where can u buy 1? any link?
When heavens not waiting, it's spilling its secrets
Culture
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada488 Posts
May 15 2008 05:39 GMT
#215
Sell me one and I will post pics of at least 2 HOT GUYS AND 2 HOT GIRLS wearing the shirt. Promise!
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
May 15 2008 05:50 GMT
#216
I didn't even know you wore shirts Moltke, I always pictured you drifting about draped in swaths of purple and gold velvet.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
May 15 2008 05:57 GMT
#217
or perhaps i tried to do too much with this short sentence:


No, rather than overreaching the point, you were simply being a poseur in calling "basic economics" something so universally obvious as the difference between price and value. Just another toddler-epiphany in didactic rhetoric.

obviously such argumentation would make anyone associated with respectable intellectual circles wince. i really suggest enrollment in an economics 101 and acquainting yourself with a little basic economic theory before debating this stuff.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
May 15 2008 06:01 GMT
#218
Still waiting for my dear pony shirt. What's the ETA on mediums, mnm? I ordered it by page-6 of the OG thread =0
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-15 06:57:45
May 15 2008 06:50 GMT
#219
On May 15 2008 14:57 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
or perhaps i tried to do too much with this short sentence:


No, rather than overreaching the point, you were simply being a poseur in calling "basic economics" something so universally obvious as the difference between price and value. Just another toddler-epiphany in didactic rhetoric.

obviously such argumentation would make anyone associated with respectable intellectual circles wince. i really suggest enrollment in an economics 101 and acquainting yourself with a little basic economic theory before debating this stuff.

you completely missed the point. i obviously know what a status good is, the problem is with you implying that the tl.net shirt will become a status good in general, by a rise in its price.

it is plain fact that the functional price in a veblen good is not the same as the purchasing price, but rather the socially recognized price of the good. these two may be equal, but not necessarily the same. class status goods are symbolic in function, meaning the market independent characteristics of a particular good must have already incorporated some level of association with wealth within a given society before we can say it is a status good. now, the fact of the matter is, a tl.net cotton shirt is not perceived to be of any value by the guys on the street, no matter how much you may have paid for it. further, you may find boasting about the tl.net shirt you brought for a million bucks difficult. rather than being a sign of your wealth and social status, that shirt may instead show you dont know how to spend your money.

i gave the only reasonable interpretation of your comment on price and status, that within tl.net, a rise in the shirt's price may indeed make it a status good. yet you did not take that route. the rest is elementary.

+ Show Spoiler +
seriously, you give ambiguous signals. are you trolling?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 15 2008 06:57 GMT
#220
now

why is it that moltke manages to make himself perfectly intelligible

while oneofthem simply sounds pretentious

hmmm.

for the record i disagree with moltke; but I can see where he's coming from.
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