EPTThe greatest mind ever - a lesson from history - Page 6
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
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ShAsTa
Belgium2841 Posts
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Nxla
United States49 Posts
On August 31 2003 15:57 A3iL3r0n wrote: Creativity > IQ. That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. | ||
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Bleww
United States1080 Posts
HAHAHA OWNED NEWBIE. MY IQ > YOU  | ||
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BigBalls
United States5354 Posts
Intelligence does not justify underachievment. Ive learned this the hard way :/ (yes my little bashing is somewhat of an autobiography, although im not a total slacker, I do achieve a lot, just not as much as I should) There is a difference between smart and intelligence. Intelligence is potential while smart is achievment. Aim to be smart, not intelligent. For about 5 years I rode intelligence when I should have tried to be smart (adding to this thinking im more intelligent than i really am). I used to be a semi math prodigy (no ntt reference intended). I was doing ~10th grade math when i was in 2nd grade. I got tired of it and stopped and rode out my superiority even through 12th grade. Now at college, im still one of the smartest math kids (im here on full scholarship for math), but im seeing students (namely 1) with equal intelligence far surpassing anything I can achieve because hes been "smart" for the time I was "intelligent". Honestly, iq is the worst thing in the world. It serves no purpose but to show potential. If at all possible, try NOT to know your iq. If it is low, you may become dejected and not bother trying to do anything. If it is high, you may develop a superiority complex and think you dont need to try hard to achieve what others do. Note the story of Sidis: he was always reading. Not that everyone should be a lump of boredom, but dont be a waste of life. Oh and rek, the story is from an online site, search for Sidis on google, and youll find it on some IQ page, I read it a few years ago when I was semi obsessed with IQ because I thought mine was so fucking godlike. well, time to go back to trying to be smart. advanced calc is giving me some trouble all in all, fuck IQ, it is a potential inhibitor. | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On August 31 2003 18:34 BigBalls wrote: Intelligence is usually an excuse slackers use to boost their confidence. Person A sits on the couch all day and achieves absolutely nothing but says his IQ is 160 so he is still "smart". Lets bow down to these pathetic losers who lie about their IQ and still do nothing. Intelligence does not justify underachievment. Ive learned this the hard way :/ (yes my little bashing is somewhat of an autobiography, although im not a total slacker, I do achieve a lot, just not as much as I should) There is a difference between smart and intelligence. Intelligence is potential while smart is achievment. Aim to be smart, not intelligent. For about 5 years I rode intelligence when I should have tried to be smart (adding to this thinking im more intelligent than i really am). I used to be a semi math prodigy (no ntt reference intended). I was doing ~10th grade math when i was in 2nd grade. I got tired of it and stopped and rode out my superiority even through 12th grade. Now at college, im still one of the smartest math kids (im here on full scholarship for math), but im seeing students (namely 1) with equal intelligence far surpassing anything I can achieve because hes been "smart" for the time I was "intelligent". Honestly, iq is the worst thing in the world. It serves no purpose but to show potential. If at all possible, try NOT to know your iq. If it is low, you may become dejected and not bother trying to do anything. If it is high, you may develop a superiority complex and think you dont need to try hard to achieve what others do. Note the story of Sidis: he was always reading. Not that everyone should be a lump of boredom, but dont be a waste of life. Oh and rek, the story is from an online site, search for Sidis on google, and youll find it on some IQ page, I read it a few years ago when I was semi obsessed with IQ because I thought mine was so fucking godlike. well, time to go back to trying to be smart. advanced calc is giving me some trouble all in all, fuck IQ, it is a potential inhibitor. Agreed. | ||
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ForgoTTeN-SupeR
United States786 Posts
On August 31 2003 18:34 BigBalls wrote: Intelligence is usually an excuse slackers use to boost their confidence. Person A sits on the couch all day and achieves absolutely nothing but says his IQ is 160 so he is still "smart". Lets bow down to these pathetic losers who lie about their IQ and still do nothing. Intelligence does not justify underachievment. Ive learned this the hard way :/ (yes my little bashing is somewhat of an autobiography, although im not a total slacker, I do achieve a lot, just not as much as I should) There is a difference between smart and intelligence. Intelligence is potential while smart is achievment. Aim to be smart, not intelligent. For about 5 years I rode intelligence when I should have tried to be smart (adding to this thinking im more intelligent than i really am). I used to be a semi math prodigy (no ntt reference intended). I was doing ~10th grade math when i was in 2nd grade. I got tired of it and stopped and rode out my superiority even through 12th grade. Now at college, im still one of the smartest math kids (im here on full scholarship for math), but im seeing students (namely 1) with equal intelligence far surpassing anything I can achieve because hes been "smart" for the time I was "intelligent". Honestly, iq is the worst thing in the world. It serves no purpose but to show potential. If at all possible, try NOT to know your iq. If it is low, you may become dejected and not bother trying to do anything. If it is high, you may develop a superiority complex and think you dont need to try hard to achieve what others do. Note the story of Sidis: he was always reading. Not that everyone should be a lump of boredom, but dont be a waste of life. Oh and rek, the story is from an online site, search for Sidis on google, and youll find it on some IQ page, I read it a few years ago when I was semi obsessed with IQ because I thought mine was so fucking godlike. well, time to go back to trying to be smart. advanced calc is giving me some trouble all in all, fuck IQ, it is a potential inhibitor. Agreed also, and a great post. IMO one of the best I have read on this board. | ||
mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
On August 31 2003 13:36 Macrophage wrote: his mental abilities remind me of picasso, mozart, that indian mathematician or this strange sickness which makes people develop talent as a drawer or musician but makes them intellectual idiots :> .. maybe mensrea knows the illnesses name :> - I believe you are talking about people who are referred to as "idiot savants:" extraordinarily "gifted" in certain, highly specialized areas such as math or music, but who are otherwise intellectually disabled. "Rain Man" would be an example of an idiot savant. It's not exactly a "disease" tho. Merely a way of describing such people. - the "Indian mathematician" you mention is prolly Srinivasa Ramanujan. Hope this helps. | ||
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Macrophage
Germany730 Posts
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Macrophage
Germany730 Posts
"Life is a reversal of the second law of thermodynamics. Or, to put it in other terms, since we have seen that mechanical efficiency under positive tendency is less than 100%, under neutral tendency just 100%, and under the negative tendency more than 100%, we may define: Life consists of bodies with a mechanical efficiency of over 100%." i found summing up physics up to his time was pretty impressive, but his way of differentiating animate and inanimate is pretty premature. if something reminds him of something "alive" (ie a ball going upstairs instead of down (think of a video of something played backwards) then it is alive. correct me if i'm wrong but that's more less how he did it in chapter 6. also, how does the universe know something is alive and something isnt and uses accordingly different laws? -ok read on a bit, he says life just comes from life so by reproduction we pass on this different physics. life always existed, he supports a "Biogenetic" theory, from our modern point of view this is very improbable, under certain conditions proteins etc can assemble themselves (randomly) and we know alot about how our body works and it is all in tune with the 2nd law.- create a 1:1 copy of a human mind, we will get something which we have to call alive. btw ghost in the shell is a good movie. apart from alive and dead being only human notions without describing a "ding an sich" - but thats me also, why not reverse the rules of entropy in a reverse universe? there are verified problems with supersymmetry, but entropy isnt one of them as far as i know. "The second law of thermodynamics is really a mental law indicating the direction of the illusory flow of time. Time itself really exists as a two-direction affair, and really has no more flow than space." leave away the "mental" and this sentence would make sense. though this does not follow from the mathematically similar treatment of time and space by einstein (the idea is likeable though ^^). __ well i cant read everything now, it certainly has some brilliance, but seems to be "mislead" (Einstein on the other hand had most of the time the right intuition.) easy to judge though 80 years later | ||
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baal
10708 Posts
wrong. its not about archievements, its about how you feel about them. Gates may be the richiest man on the earth, but he is sooooo poor in many, many ways. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
He is the wisest (if not the most 'intelligent') person on this forum. I live for his posts. Wisdom is so much more fulfilling than intelligence. Any fans of Socrates? | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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badteeth
Netherlands1416 Posts
On August 31 2003 21:49 Teroru wrote: Any fans of Socrates? Thats sorta ironic | ||
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Macrophage
Germany730 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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mind
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Krzych
Poland693 Posts
On August 31 2003 21:50 [pG]Rekrul wrote: But I'm the coolest which is why he should interview me. Instead of being funny you're being pathetic sometimes... | ||
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
On August 31 2003 23:03 Krzych wrote: Instead of being funny you're being pathetic sometimes... Be careful. | ||
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ZyPhReX
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