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Quick, ban me before I derail another thread!
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i hope they let you stay for the post about raping the sister was epic
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On December 08 2007 02:28 Lazerflip... wrote:
Guess they will have to ban me again, or something. Good luck with that.
I believe in RIGHTS. It is their right to ban me for speaking my opinion, as it is their site and not mine. But it is my right to have my opinion heard, so if I want to circumvent a ban, I obviously can and will do so. I just want to warn you that if you suppress any opinion you don't agree with, you will end up with some very boring and one-sided discussions. But if you really want to, sure, go ahead and ban the most intelligent and sensible person in the thread. And by the way, while I'm on a tirade which will probably cause people to hate me anyway, I might as well say; what the fuck are you foreigners doing in this thread anyway? You don't know anything about our rights as Americans, and your opinion on the matter doesn't really fucking matter either. If you want guns to be banned, go tell your country to ban them. Oh, wait, your country already did ban them. Problem solved, shut the hell up, go to another topic and suck more Korean dick.
P.S. 10 bucks says someone deletes this entire post. Good thing it only took me about a minute and twenty seconds to type it.
Quoting in case of self-censor.
On December 08 2007 03:09 iamnotlazerflip wrote:I don't lobby, I annihilate. I annihilate weak arguments with my carpet-bombing of logic. P.S. If you really call me on the 10 dollars, I will delete my own post and win the bet. I said "someone" would delete the post. When last I checked, I myself fall under the category of someone, so what you have here is an impossible bet (for you).
You are wrong. You cannot delete posts. Editing your post so that it shows nothing is not deleting, because your post will still remain; there will just be nothing in it but a space. That means you did not delete it. You even said "entire" post, which is impossible to do unless you are a Moderator. Because you cannot delete your own post, you can only win your bet if a Mod deletes your post.
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On December 08 2007 01:53 DrainX wrote:
Just seems to me like all the pro-gun people are stuck in some kind of cold war mindset. The "criminals" have lots of guns. We have to have more guns among the public and in the homes to keep us safe. In turn the criminals who are about to break into a house will have to be armed to feel safe since everyone has guns in their homes. The solution isnt to get more weapons than your "opponent". The solution is to get a lower total amount of weapons.
Since the overall amount of guns in the country is so high, everyone needs one to feel safe. When you try to ban them the effects arnt instant. The problem is only indirectly that guns are legal. The big problem is the total amount of guns. By banning them the supply will still be almost the same for some time. The good effects are only going to come in time. Maybe there are some peaks right after a new ban is made but they are only short term.
I dont see how you could argue against this. If there is a lower amount of total guns in a society then the number of people owning guns will be lower. A lower supply means you have a slimmer chance of running into someone armed. A lower chance of running into someone who is armed means you have a lower chance of getting shot.
If europe didnt exist I might actualy listen to the argument about how gun legislation could never work. I might consider my argument above only being theory. We do however already have an example of what a society with gun control looks like. Your argument is that guns are needed among the public and in the homes for protection to solve the problem with criminals having guns. Over here we dont have that problem to start with. Our system works just fine and fewer people die each year. I cant see why you would prefer not to change.
Petty criminals over here dont have guns. The guy I buy my weed from doesnt have a gun. It would be stupid of him to have one. Selling weed is risky if the police raid your house, but having a gun at home would be even riskier. The only people who have guns here are heavy criminals and they mostly use them on eachother anyway. Since guns are so rare here they are very easy to notice and so much harder to transfer/store/use. If someone here sees a gun it would be directly reported to the police since there are no legal guns other than hunting rifles.
Do you think the price you would have to pay to make the US society work without guns is too high to pay? That the transition would be too hard to make? Do you think that there is something about the american culture that makes it impossible to ever remove guns from society? Or do you think living with a higher weapon fatality rate and guns in everyones pocket is a society you prefer?
If you did pick the last option I just think that your view of humanity is condescending. Are we so barbaric in your eyes that we need guns to have a working society? You might be saying that the US is so different and that there are already so many guns there and that it will never be able to change. Why not? Of course nothing is going to change if no one is trying. But cutting the supply on weapons and reducing the total number of weapons in a country on a long timescale isnt hard, you just need to get started. One step in the right direction is making guns illegal.
Who would want to work as a cop in a place where you know its very likely that the guy you just pulled over is armed. Who wants to go to a bar when you know there is a chance thats not too slim that some idiot there you might get into a fight with is armed. Havnt we moved past that yet? It sounds so distant and barbaric to me. I just cant see why you would want to keep the problems you have when you can clearly see there are other options.
GUNS ARE WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTIONS!!!! DEATH TO THE GUNS!!!!
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On December 08 2007 03:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
Editing your post so that it shows nothing is not deleting, because your post will still remain; there will just be nothing in it but a space. That means you did not delete it. You even said "entire" post, which is impossible to do unless you are a Moderator. Because you cannot delete your own post, you can only win your bet if a Mod deletes your post.
What if he was a genius hacker who took down the entire teamliquid web site? Since that eliminates all the web site's content, it would technically be deleting, so it's not quite impossible.
Sorry, just wanted to be nitpicky 
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Imagine 50% of the mall having guns, how in the hell do you know who the actual shooter is?
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the one on anti depressants obv
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On December 08 2007 05:21 DeadVessel wrote:
the one on anti depressants obv
That's still 50% !
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People having guns doesn't really solve mass murder. Having cops in the mall and metal detectors do solve the problem.
You can own a gun, im not really for gun banning.
everyone has guns = bad
none has guns = bad
Family responsibility = good
mom checking kid's room for guns = good
dad locking his AK-47 = good
counseling = good
Prozac = bad
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On December 08 2007 05:15 Hawk wrote:
this thread sucks.
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On December 08 2007 05:28 Rev0lution wrote:
People having guns doesn't really solve mass murder. Having cops in the mall and metal detectors do solve the problem.
You can own a gun, im not really for gun banning.
everyone has guns = bad
none has guns = bad
Family responsibility = good
mom checking kid's room for guns = good
dad locking his AK-47 = good
counseling = good
Prozac = bad
rofl metal detectors IN A MALL?!?
how many metal stuff do you think is sold in a mall.
And I agree that this thread sucks.
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Seems to me mustard gassing mid west America is the proper way to do things.
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Predicting your own ban because you make sence=100%win
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On December 08 2007 03:47 lengzai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2007 01:53 DrainX wrote:
Just seems to me like all the pro-gun people are stuck in some kind of cold war mindset. The "criminals" have lots of guns. We have to have more guns among the public and in the homes to keep us safe. In turn the criminals who are about to break into a house will have to be armed to feel safe since everyone has guns in their homes. The solution isnt to get more weapons than your "opponent". The solution is to get a lower total amount of weapons.
Since the overall amount of guns in the country is so high, everyone needs one to feel safe. When you try to ban them the effects arnt instant. The problem is only indirectly that guns are legal. The big problem is the total amount of guns. By banning them the supply will still be almost the same for some time. The good effects are only going to come in time. Maybe there are some peaks right after a new ban is made but they are only short term.
I dont see how you could argue against this. If there is a lower amount of total guns in a society then the number of people owning guns will be lower. A lower supply means you have a slimmer chance of running into someone armed. A lower chance of running into someone who is armed means you have a lower chance of getting shot.
If europe didnt exist I might actualy listen to the argument about how gun legislation could never work. I might consider my argument above only being theory. We do however already have an example of what a society with gun control looks like. Your argument is that guns are needed among the public and in the homes for protection to solve the problem with criminals having guns. Over here we dont have that problem to start with. Our system works just fine and fewer people die each year. I cant see why you would prefer not to change.
Petty criminals over here dont have guns. The guy I buy my weed from doesnt have a gun. It would be stupid of him to have one. Selling weed is risky if the police raid your house, but having a gun at home would be even riskier. The only people who have guns here are heavy criminals and they mostly use them on eachother anyway. Since guns are so rare here they are very easy to notice and so much harder to transfer/store/use. If someone here sees a gun it would be directly reported to the police since there are no legal guns other than hunting rifles.
Do you think the price you would have to pay to make the US society work without guns is too high to pay? That the transition would be too hard to make? Do you think that there is something about the american culture that makes it impossible to ever remove guns from society? Or do you think living with a higher weapon fatality rate and guns in everyones pocket is a society you prefer?
If you did pick the last option I just think that your view of humanity is condescending. Are we so barbaric in your eyes that we need guns to have a working society? You might be saying that the US is so different and that there are already so many guns there and that it will never be able to change. Why not? Of course nothing is going to change if no one is trying. But cutting the supply on weapons and reducing the total number of weapons in a country on a long timescale isnt hard, you just need to get started. One step in the right direction is making guns illegal.
Who would want to work as a cop in a place where you know its very likely that the guy you just pulled over is armed. Who wants to go to a bar when you know there is a chance thats not too slim that some idiot there you might get into a fight with is armed. Havnt we moved past that yet? It sounds so distant and barbaric to me. I just cant see why you would want to keep the problems you have when you can clearly see there are other options. GUNS ARE WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTIONS!!!! DEATH TO THE GUNS!!!! Criminals are therefore the messengers of destruction.
I am a law-abiding citizen, and pose no threat whatsoever to anyone, myself included.
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On December 08 2007 03:47 lengzai wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2007 01:53 DrainX wrote:
Just seems to me like all the pro-gun people are stuck in some kind of cold war mindset. The "criminals" have lots of guns. We have to have more guns among the public and in the homes to keep us safe. In turn the criminals who are about to break into a house will have to be armed to feel safe since everyone has guns in their homes. The solution isnt to get more weapons than your "opponent". The solution is to get a lower total amount of weapons.
Since the overall amount of guns in the country is so high, everyone needs one to feel safe. When you try to ban them the effects arnt instant. The problem is only indirectly that guns are legal. The big problem is the total amount of guns. By banning them the supply will still be almost the same for some time. The good effects are only going to come in time. Maybe there are some peaks right after a new ban is made but they are only short term.
I dont see how you could argue against this. If there is a lower amount of total guns in a society then the number of people owning guns will be lower. A lower supply means you have a slimmer chance of running into someone armed. A lower chance of running into someone who is armed means you have a lower chance of getting shot.
If europe didnt exist I might actualy listen to the argument about how gun legislation could never work. I might consider my argument above only being theory. We do however already have an example of what a society with gun control looks like. Your argument is that guns are needed among the public and in the homes for protection to solve the problem with criminals having guns. Over here we dont have that problem to start with. Our system works just fine and fewer people die each year. I cant see why you would prefer not to change.
Petty criminals over here dont have guns. The guy I buy my weed from doesnt have a gun. It would be stupid of him to have one. Selling weed is risky if the police raid your house, but having a gun at home would be even riskier. The only people who have guns here are heavy criminals and they mostly use them on eachother anyway. Since guns are so rare here they are very easy to notice and so much harder to transfer/store/use. If someone here sees a gun it would be directly reported to the police since there are no legal guns other than hunting rifles.
Do you think the price you would have to pay to make the US society work without guns is too high to pay? That the transition would be too hard to make? Do you think that there is something about the american culture that makes it impossible to ever remove guns from society? Or do you think living with a higher weapon fatality rate and guns in everyones pocket is a society you prefer?
If you did pick the last option I just think that your view of humanity is condescending. Are we so barbaric in your eyes that we need guns to have a working society? You might be saying that the US is so different and that there are already so many guns there and that it will never be able to change. Why not? Of course nothing is going to change if no one is trying. But cutting the supply on weapons and reducing the total number of weapons in a country on a long timescale isnt hard, you just need to get started. One step in the right direction is making guns illegal.
Who would want to work as a cop in a place where you know its very likely that the guy you just pulled over is armed. Who wants to go to a bar when you know there is a chance thats not too slim that some idiot there you might get into a fight with is armed. Havnt we moved past that yet? It sounds so distant and barbaric to me. I just cant see why you would want to keep the problems you have when you can clearly see there are other options. GUNS ARE WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTIONS!!!! DEATH TO THE GUNS!!!!
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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On December 08 2007 05:18 Rev0lution wrote:
Imagine 50% of the mall having guns, how in the hell do you know who the actual shooter is?
The fucking cuntbag with the rifle shooting people is the one you shoot.
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On December 08 2007 05:28 Rev0lution wrote:
People having guns doesn't really solve mass murder. Having cops in the mall and metal detectors do solve the problem.
You can own a gun, im not really for gun banning.
everyone has guns = bad
none has guns = bad
Family responsibility = good
mom checking kid's room for guns = good
dad locking his AK-47 = good
counseling = good
Prozac = bad
jesus cut off our balls while you're at it.
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On December 08 2007 06:50 Spartan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2007 03:47 lengzai wrote:On December 08 2007 01:53 DrainX wrote:
Just seems to me like all the pro-gun people are stuck in some kind of cold war mindset. The "criminals" have lots of guns. We have to have more guns among the public and in the homes to keep us safe. In turn the criminals who are about to break into a house will have to be armed to feel safe since everyone has guns in their homes. The solution isnt to get more weapons than your "opponent". The solution is to get a lower total amount of weapons.
Since the overall amount of guns in the country is so high, everyone needs one to feel safe. When you try to ban them the effects arnt instant. The problem is only indirectly that guns are legal. The big problem is the total amount of guns. By banning them the supply will still be almost the same for some time. The good effects are only going to come in time. Maybe there are some peaks right after a new ban is made but they are only short term.
I dont see how you could argue against this. If there is a lower amount of total guns in a society then the number of people owning guns will be lower. A lower supply means you have a slimmer chance of running into someone armed. A lower chance of running into someone who is armed means you have a lower chance of getting shot.
If europe didnt exist I might actualy listen to the argument about how gun legislation could never work. I might consider my argument above only being theory. We do however already have an example of what a society with gun control looks like. Your argument is that guns are needed among the public and in the homes for protection to solve the problem with criminals having guns. Over here we dont have that problem to start with. Our system works just fine and fewer people die each year. I cant see why you would prefer not to change.
Petty criminals over here dont have guns. The guy I buy my weed from doesnt have a gun. It would be stupid of him to have one. Selling weed is risky if the police raid your house, but having a gun at home would be even riskier. The only people who have guns here are heavy criminals and they mostly use them on eachother anyway. Since guns are so rare here they are very easy to notice and so much harder to transfer/store/use. If someone here sees a gun it would be directly reported to the police since there are no legal guns other than hunting rifles.
Do you think the price you would have to pay to make the US society work without guns is too high to pay? That the transition would be too hard to make? Do you think that there is something about the american culture that makes it impossible to ever remove guns from society? Or do you think living with a higher weapon fatality rate and guns in everyones pocket is a society you prefer?
If you did pick the last option I just think that your view of humanity is condescending. Are we so barbaric in your eyes that we need guns to have a working society? You might be saying that the US is so different and that there are already so many guns there and that it will never be able to change. Why not? Of course nothing is going to change if no one is trying. But cutting the supply on weapons and reducing the total number of weapons in a country on a long timescale isnt hard, you just need to get started. One step in the right direction is making guns illegal.
Who would want to work as a cop in a place where you know its very likely that the guy you just pulled over is armed. Who wants to go to a bar when you know there is a chance thats not too slim that some idiot there you might get into a fight with is armed. Havnt we moved past that yet? It sounds so distant and barbaric to me. I just cant see why you would want to keep the problems you have when you can clearly see there are other options. GUNS ARE WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTIONS!!!! DEATH TO THE GUNS!!!! Guns don't kill people, people kill people. No, you're completely wrong.
Guns kill people. This is why cars are banned so that drunken accidents don't occur.
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On December 08 2007 06:49 Mayson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2007 03:47 lengzai wrote:On December 08 2007 01:53 DrainX wrote:
Just seems to me like all the pro-gun people are stuck in some kind of cold war mindset. The "criminals" have lots of guns. We have to have more guns among the public and in the homes to keep us safe. In turn the criminals who are about to break into a house will have to be armed to feel safe since everyone has guns in their homes. The solution isnt to get more weapons than your "opponent". The solution is to get a lower total amount of weapons.
Since the overall amount of guns in the country is so high, everyone needs one to feel safe. When you try to ban them the effects arnt instant. The problem is only indirectly that guns are legal. The big problem is the total amount of guns. By banning them the supply will still be almost the same for some time. The good effects are only going to come in time. Maybe there are some peaks right after a new ban is made but they are only short term.
I dont see how you could argue against this. If there is a lower amount of total guns in a society then the number of people owning guns will be lower. A lower supply means you have a slimmer chance of running into someone armed. A lower chance of running into someone who is armed means you have a lower chance of getting shot.
If europe didnt exist I might actualy listen to the argument about how gun legislation could never work. I might consider my argument above only being theory. We do however already have an example of what a society with gun control looks like. Your argument is that guns are needed among the public and in the homes for protection to solve the problem with criminals having guns. Over here we dont have that problem to start with. Our system works just fine and fewer people die each year. I cant see why you would prefer not to change.
Petty criminals over here dont have guns. The guy I buy my weed from doesnt have a gun. It would be stupid of him to have one. Selling weed is risky if the police raid your house, but having a gun at home would be even riskier. The only people who have guns here are heavy criminals and they mostly use them on eachother anyway. Since guns are so rare here they are very easy to notice and so much harder to transfer/store/use. If someone here sees a gun it would be directly reported to the police since there are no legal guns other than hunting rifles.
Do you think the price you would have to pay to make the US society work without guns is too high to pay? That the transition would be too hard to make? Do you think that there is something about the american culture that makes it impossible to ever remove guns from society? Or do you think living with a higher weapon fatality rate and guns in everyones pocket is a society you prefer?
If you did pick the last option I just think that your view of humanity is condescending. Are we so barbaric in your eyes that we need guns to have a working society? You might be saying that the US is so different and that there are already so many guns there and that it will never be able to change. Why not? Of course nothing is going to change if no one is trying. But cutting the supply on weapons and reducing the total number of weapons in a country on a long timescale isnt hard, you just need to get started. One step in the right direction is making guns illegal.
Who would want to work as a cop in a place where you know its very likely that the guy you just pulled over is armed. Who wants to go to a bar when you know there is a chance thats not too slim that some idiot there you might get into a fight with is armed. Havnt we moved past that yet? It sounds so distant and barbaric to me. I just cant see why you would want to keep the problems you have when you can clearly see there are other options. GUNS ARE WEAPONS OF DESTRUCTIONS!!!! DEATH TO THE GUNS!!!! Criminals are therefore the messengers of destruction. I am a law-abiding citizen, and pose no threat whatsoever to anyone, myself included.
you will if you take those nasty anti-depressents. you'll either light up a whole mall or paint the wall with your brains.
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