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On December 07 2007 23:13 Mayson wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 15:04 Clutch3 wrote:On December 07 2007 14:43 Mayson wrote:
How about the fact that every time the right of private citizens to defend themselves effectively is restricted, crime rates increase?
Washington, D.C., anyone? They banned handguns. I guess the criminals didn't get the memo. Can you show me some data on this? The DC handgun ban was passed, I believe, in 1976. The crime rates then and now are down slightly for most of the key classes of crimes. See link below. I also wonder how you can explain the huge drop in violent crime since the passage of the Brady Bill. I am not so sure the Brady Bill actually helped to cause the drop in violent crime (it went about gun control in an awfully strange way), but the fact that crime dropped so much doesn't really mesh with your statement about "restricting the rights of private citizens to defend themselves" and a correlated increase in crime. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/dccrime.htmhttp://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm It's quite simple: handguns are banned in Washington D.C. Has anyone died to a handgun while that law was in effect? Yes. Have lots of people died to handguns since that law was in effect? Yes. There you have it: gun control laws not fucking working.
Stop posting facts! Please! FFS! Don't you understand, these people are not responding to facts. We need to try something else. Maybe if we spray silly string on them, then they will listen. It's worth a shot...
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lol at you both, if you think washington DC is a great example of how gun control fails, lol shoot yourself in the foot boyyyssss your obviously missing the real reason why thers crime in washington DC, IT AINT YOUR LOCAL SUBURB
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On December 08 2007 02:16 Lazerflip... wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2007 23:13 Mayson wrote:On December 07 2007 15:04 Clutch3 wrote:On December 07 2007 14:43 Mayson wrote:
How about the fact that every time the right of private citizens to defend themselves effectively is restricted, crime rates increase?
Washington, D.C., anyone? They banned handguns. I guess the criminals didn't get the memo. Can you show me some data on this? The DC handgun ban was passed, I believe, in 1976. The crime rates then and now are down slightly for most of the key classes of crimes. See link below. I also wonder how you can explain the huge drop in violent crime since the passage of the Brady Bill. I am not so sure the Brady Bill actually helped to cause the drop in violent crime (it went about gun control in an awfully strange way), but the fact that crime dropped so much doesn't really mesh with your statement about "restricting the rights of private citizens to defend themselves" and a correlated increase in crime. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/dccrime.htmhttp://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/guns.htm It's quite simple: handguns are banned in Washington D.C. Has anyone died to a handgun while that law was in effect? Yes. Have lots of people died to handguns since that law was in effect? Yes. There you have it: gun control laws not fucking working. Stop posting facts! Please! FFS! Don't you understand, these people are not responding to facts. We need to try something else. Maybe if we spray silly string on them, then they will listen. It's worth a shot...
Dont you think its disrespectful to the admins to create a new account and keep posting in a thread that you were just banned for posting in? If they ban you that means that you arnt wanted here.
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Guess they will have to ban me again, or something. Good luck with that.
I believe in RIGHTS. It is their right to ban me for speaking my opinion, as it is their site and not mine. But it is my right to have my opinion heard, so if I want to circumvent a ban, I obviously can and will do so. I just want to warn you that if you suppress any opinion you don't agree with, you will end up with some very boring and one-sided discussions. But if you really want to, sure, go ahead and ban the most intelligent and sensible person in the thread. And by the way, while I'm on a tirade which will probably cause people to hate me anyway, I might as well say; what the fuck are you foreigners doing in this thread anyway? You don't know anything about our rights as Americans, and your opinion on the matter doesn't really fucking matter either. If you want guns to be banned, go tell your country to ban them. Oh, wait, your country already did ban them. Problem solved, shut the hell up, go to another topic and suck more Korean dick.
P.S. 10 bucks says someone deletes this entire post. Good thing it only took me about a minute and twenty seconds to type it.
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lol wtf are you lobying for the NRA or something?
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I would never lobby for such a blatantly conservative and biased organization which ignores as many facts as their opponents. The NRA is just as ridiculous as the pro-gun control people. I, myself, stand on the happy middle ground that I like to call "common sense".
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On December 08 2007 02:33 Lazerflip... wrote:
I would never lobby for such a blatantly conservative and biased organization which ignores as many facts as their opponents. The NRA is just as ridiculous as the pro-gun control people. I, myself, stand on the happy middle ground that I like to call "common sense".
more like common retardation
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Brilliant post. The only two places where retardation is "common" in any way are a mental hospital and your home.
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United States22883 Posts
But it is my right to have my opinion heard
No, it isn't. This is not a government owned public message board. This is private property, if the owners want you to shut the fuck up, then you shut the fuck up.
I, myself, stand on the happy middle ground that I like to call "common sense". Middle ground as in "Canada is safer because it has less black people" ?
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On December 08 2007 02:39 Jibba wrote:No, it isn't. This is not a government owned public message board. This is private property, if the owners want you to shut the fuck up, then you shut the fuck up. Show nested quote +I, myself, stand on the happy middle ground that I like to call "common sense". Middle ground as in "Canada is safer because it has less black people" ?
Not really. I myself said "they own this site and it is their right to ban me if they want". What part of that did you not understand? As for Canada being safer because it has less black people, well, what can I say? Is this racist? Yes. Does that make it untrue? No. Racism is not "hating other races" but acknowledging the difference between races. If you acknowledge that black people have darker skin than you, you are being "racist". This is not always a bad thing. You confuse bigotry with racism, though, and for that I forgive you. What I can't forgive you for is being a total jimmy hat and thinking that just because you own a place you can tell anyone you want to shut the fuck up. My argument was not that they have no right to shut me up here, my argument was that to do so would be a bit Nazi-esque. And you can't ban me or shut me up even if you wanted to, so that is irrelevant. You will hear my opinion if I have to come to your door, tie you up, and shove it down your throat while I anally rape your sister and wife because I have an illegally purchased gun and you do not because you were unable to purchase one, and as my cum slides down the crack of your 12 year old sister's ass, and she cries and bleeds and begs for mercy, you will curse the day you decided guns were wrong, and you will curse the fact that I have one and you do not, and you will go right out to your local Wal Mart and buy a handgun, load it, put it under your pillow, and you will be ready for the next evil intruder who comes into your house to take away your lovely sister's v-card. You will have learned a lesson.
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do you lobby for 'americas most wanted' or something?
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wow... I almost feel dirty for taking my time and posting in this thread =(
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thedeadhaji
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Where is my $10 you liar.
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i lost sorry. fucking 66 [me] vs J9. guy calls a raise from a nit [me] with shit. i mean wtf. looool
i thought you were addressing me haji.
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On December 08 2007 03:01 dronebabo wrote:
hahahahahaha
I don\'t lobby, I annihilate. I annihilate weak arguments with my carpet-bombing of logic.
P.S. If you really call me on the 10 dollars, I will delete my own post and win the bet. I said \"someone\" would delete the post. When last I checked, I myself fall under the category of someone, so what you have here is an impossible bet (for you).
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On December 08 2007 03:09 iamnotlazerflip wrote:I don\'t lobby, I annihilate. I annihilate weak arguments with my carpet-bombing of logic. P.S. If you really call me on the 10 dollars, I will delete my own post and win the bet. I said \"someone\" would delete the post. When last I checked, I myself fall under the category of someone, so what you have here is an impossible bet (for you). oh trust me they can un-delete your post as many times as they want. pay up fool
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