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United States22883 Posts
On November 18 2007 21:19 DhakhaR wrote: just to be a devils advocate here:
did the parents of the old friend KNOW she would even attempt something like killing herself?
did marilin manson know he would 'inspire' a school shooting? (even though he did nothing technically wrong, whereas the parents of the old friend did)
should you be arrested if, for example, lastshadow hung himself?
what im trying to get at is that technically the parents only teased her. wrong, but hardly an arrestable offence. selling a knife to someone who you dont know is a killer isnt a crime.
BTW this really isnt my opinion, im just posting the other side of the argument. I don't think a crime was committed. If the same thing happened in real life and assuming you DID know they might kill them self, would you be charged with a crime for aggravating them with insults? I don't know, but I would assume not.
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The humanity....never ceases to amaze me...
And i realy hope that someone will fuck those ppl up beyond recognition.
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On November 18 2007 12:32 Skittled wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Ban? Why? I am merely voicing my opinion.
I am not cold hearted, I sympathize for Megan and her parents, but it is obviously their fault. People are naturally cruel, it wasn't the adults fault that they inately felt that they had to punish Megan. I mean come on, all of you are showing sympathy and condolence, but if you had names of "anonymous12 or anonymous 325," we would hear much harsher words.
Disagree if you wish, I will hear your arguments and project my view. You can dislike me, but don't ban for disliking what you hear. EDIT: Anyway, I regret not euphanizing my words to soften the edge, I just felt like saying how I feel. Of course, the right to free speech is not given on Internet forums, so I will put my words in a spoiler so you may or may not wish to read it.
Still,
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You may have forgotten about this story, but I don't think there was any sort of 'conclusion' to what happened. So here's a new update on what's happened:
+ Show Spoiler + LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A Missouri mom was indicted Thursday for her alleged role in the death of a teen who killed herself over a failed Internet romance that turned out to be a hoax.
Tina Meier has said her daughter was devastated when "Josh Evans" rejected her.
A federal indictment accuses Lori Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Missouri, of using the social networking Web site MySpace.com to pose as a 16-year-old boy and feign romantic interest in the girl.
The girl, Megan Meier, committed suicide after her online love interest spurned her, according to prosecutors, telling her the world would be a better place without her.
Drew faces up to 20 years in prison on charges of conspiracy and accessing protected computers to obtain information to inflict emotional distress.
The indictment, which was filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, accuses Drew and others of registering on MySpace as "Josh Evans" and using the account to lure Meier into an an online romance.
Authorities have previously said that Drew set up the account to find out what Meier, who lived in her neighborhood, was saying about her daughter.
Prosecutors allege that Drew and the others violated MySpace's terms of service by using false information to create the account so they could "harass, abuse or harm" Meier, according to the indictment.
The two corresponded for about four weeks before "Josh" broke off the relationship, authorities said. Within an hour, Meier hanged herself in her room and died the next day.
The indictment does not allege that Drew sent the final message telling Meier the world would be a better place without her. Instead, it blames her unnamed co-conspirators, who authorities have previously said include a teenage girl.
After Drew learned of the teen's suicide, the indictment alleges, she directed one of the teens involved to "keep her mouth shut" and deleted the account.
Meier's mother, Tina Meier, told CNN in November that her daughter had self-esteem issues and had struggled with depression since childhood.
She said when her daughter began receiving messages from "Josh" telling her she was pretty, she was thrilled.
When "Josh" broke off the relationship, Tina Meier said, her daughter was devastated.
"She was looking for me to help calm herself down like I always did and be there for her. And I was upset because I didn't like the language she was using, and I was angry she didn't sign off when I told her to," Tina Meier told CNN. Video Watch Tina Meier's reaction to the charges »
"She said to me, 'You're supposed to be my mom, you're supposed to be on my side,' and then took off running upstairs," Tina Meier said.
Tina Meier found her daughter hanging by a belt shortly afterward.
"It's as if my daughter killed herself with a gun," Meier's father, Ron, told CNN. "And it's as if they loaded the gun for her."
Drew is scheduled for arraignment in June.
"This adult woman allegedly used the Internet to target a young teenage girl, with horrendous ramifications," U.S. Attorney Thomas P. O'Brien said in a written statement.
"Any adult who uses the Internet or a social gathering Web site to bully or harass another person, particularly a young teenage girl, needs to realize that their actions can have serious consequences," O'Brien said.
In December, Missouri prosecutors declined to file charges against Drew, saying there was no law under which she could be charged.
"There is no way that anybody could know that talking to someone or saying that you're mean to your friends on the Internet would create a substantial risk," St. Charles County Prosecutor Jack Banas said. "Under the law, we just couldn't show that." http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/15/internet.suicide/index.html
Basically, the woman who caused the 13-year-old to hang herself has been indicted. Hopefully, she gets the punishment she deserves. When the story was first posted, authorities said that no charges were being filed because "there was no law under which she could be charged." I'm glad now that they came to their senses.
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Nice, what about her friend though, was she part of the plot with her mom?
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BS the mom should've got off scott-free. she broke no laws. one possible offense is impersonating a young boy on the internet to get with younger girls, but it is obvious she doesnt roll like that.
the second offense is just being a dick, a morally corrupt jerk mom. but come on, you can't sue someone for that.
i say the adult mom impersonator go free, and that we not give a funeral for fat chicks.
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On May 16 2008 13:37 Skittled wrote: BS the mom should've got off scott-free. she broke no laws. one possible offense is impersonating a young boy on the internet to get with younger girls, but it is obvious she doesnt roll like that.
the second offense is just being a dick, a morally corrupt jerk mom. but come on, you can't sue someone for that.
That's what they thought at first.
The allegations were for violating "MySpace's terms of service by using false information to create the account so they could "harass, abuse or harm" Meier."
I'm leaving out your other comment because of its immaturity.
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Even if the law is unclear on how this is illegal, it's clearly a victory in the spirit of the law, although not necessarily in the letter of the law.
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Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
So basically the only thing they could get her on is violating MySpace's terms of service. Nothing more than a fine, I'm going to assume.
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nice, lets see her got the full 20 years.
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On May 16 2008 14:01 EvilTeletubby wrote: So basically the only thing they could get her on is violating MySpace's terms of service. Nothing more than a fine, I'm going to assume. Not quite:
Drew faces up to 20 years in prison on charges of conspiracy and accessing protected computers to obtain information to inflict emotional distress. They're kind of stretching it a bit, but I support upholding the spirit rather than the letter of the law.
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On May 16 2008 13:37 Skittled wrote: i say the adult mom impersonator go free, and that we not give a funeral for fat chicks.
Um...I just looked at this guys posting history. I hate to say this, but somebody please ban him, he has done nothing but attempt to offend anyone and everyone with each and every post he has written.
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On May 16 2008 14:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 13:37 Skittled wrote: i say the adult mom impersonator go free, and that we not give a funeral for fat chicks. Um...I just looked at this guys posting history. I hate to say this, but somebody please ban him, he has done nothing but attempt to offend anyone and everyone with each and every post he has written. He's also the guy who stole LoveandPeace's account after he made that poorly thought out but well-intentioned Strategy Indexing Project thread.
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Human behavior at its worst.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
woah thats crazy i missed that before
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On May 16 2008 14:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 13:37 Skittled wrote: i say the adult mom impersonator go free, and that we not give a funeral for fat chicks. Um...I just looked at this guys posting history. I hate to say this, but somebody please ban him, he has done nothing but attempt to offend anyone and everyone with each and every post he has written.
Pretty off topic I'm sorry, but how do you look at other people's posting history?
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Spirit of the law > letter of the law. I'am a beliver that the world would be a better place with the letter returning to match more with the spirit. And wouldnt the US be more happy with ppl not suing eachother over the smallest accident/stupid reason in an attempt to make bucks.
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On May 16 2008 19:43 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 14:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:On May 16 2008 13:37 Skittled wrote: i say the adult mom impersonator go free, and that we not give a funeral for fat chicks. Um...I just looked at this guys posting history. I hate to say this, but somebody please ban him, he has done nothing but attempt to offend anyone and everyone with each and every post he has written. Pretty off topic I'm sorry, but how do you look at other people's posting history?
click search and fill in the username box
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On May 16 2008 14:01 EvilTeletubby wrote: So basically the only thing they could get her on is violating MySpace's terms of service. Nothing more than a fine, I'm going to assume.
Ugh although you're probably right, it's one of those situations where morally the person should die but legally the person didn't really do anything wrong. Remember that thread about that guy in Spain who ran over a kid who was riding his bike at nighttime and then sued his parents for denting his car?
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On May 16 2008 21:40 Equinox_kr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2008 14:01 EvilTeletubby wrote: So basically the only thing they could get her on is violating MySpace's terms of service. Nothing more than a fine, I'm going to assume. Ugh although you're probably right, it's one of those situations where morally the person should die but legally the person didn't really do anything wrong. Remember that thread about that guy in Spain who ran over a kid who was riding his bike at nighttime and then sued his parents for denting his car?
That's a ltitle different than this though. Im pretty sure youre supposed to be in control of your car at all times.
But yeah... as shitty as this is, no laws were broken. Trying to bend the rules to nail here sets a bad precedent.
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