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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Mayson
312 Posts
It's unfortunate that charges can't be brought against the parents who created the fake MySpace account. It was established that Megan had had problems before committing suicide, and there's no evidence to show that Megan committed suicide because of the MySpace incident. Furthermore, suicide is, by definition, performed by the "victim," so the only personal responsible, by definition, is the person who took their own life. I wish it was different, so those parents could be dealt with the way they should be--rotting in jail. | ||
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omgbnetsux
United States3749 Posts
On November 17 2007 01:59 Rekrul wrote: well now we know why megan stopped being friends with the girl...the girl must have be as fucked up as her parents. No shit. Wow... | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
There is a fine line between tragedy and comedy. It's very sad that your teenage daughter commits suicide, but you can't go around and blame all the participants in her ordinary teenage girl drama. This kind of bullshit is the air teenagers breathe. Megan's parents are fucked up. What kind of petty idiocy was that with the foosball table? "You killed our daughter! We're smashing your toy! So there!" We're obviously not dealing with the parents of the year here. I wouldn't take their view of Megan's friend's parents' role too seriously. | ||
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Mayson
312 Posts
When Megan's parents smash the other family's foosball table, it's not about the table--it's a symbol of retaliation. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On November 17 2007 02:04 Funchucks wrote: Let's look at the story here. Megan is an unhappy girl. Megan's friend cheers her up with a fake internet boyfriend (with the apparent approval and minor assistance of her parents). Megan, now cheered up, yet wholly dependent on her fictional boyfriend's approval, figures she's moved up in the world and ditches her old friend as beneath her. Old friend bitterly regrets fluffing Megan's ego, begins campaign to pull her back down to earth, overdoes it. Megan ends up 6 feet under. There is a fine line between tragedy and comedy. It's very sad that your teenage daughter commits suicide, but you can't go around and blame all the participants in her ordinary teenage girl drama. This kind of bullshit is the air teenagers breathe. Megan's parents are fucked up. What kind of petty idiocy was that with the foosball table? "You killed our daughter! We're smashing your toy! So there!" We're obviously not dealing with the parents of the year here. I wouldn't take their view of Megan's friend's parents' role too seriously. thing is is the two girls stopped being friends before this incident, unless i read the story wrong, in which case they were fucking with her After the two girls stopped being friends, and this was a way of getting "even" for that. | ||
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yisun518
Canada480 Posts
On November 17 2007 01:59 Rekrul wrote: well now we know why megan stopped being friends with the girl...the girl must have be as fucked up as her parents. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On November 17 2007 01:26 GenericTerranPlayer wrote: are stories like this common in american society? this is incredibly depressing and i'm having trouble believing the adults would be so immature as to be an active party in this Yeah actually. This kind of stuff is completely common here. Due to the legal prostitution and homosexuallity that American society flaunts we tend to fill our inbetween time with horrible schemes of interfamily murder and torture. | ||
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drop
Romania306 Posts
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draeger
United States3256 Posts
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NoName
United States1558 Posts
you got to keep the online world out of your head i used to spend more time on youtube. i've seen channels get into nasty and personal flame and banning wars, to the point accounts getting hacked, banned, quitting, and ugly personal information getting posted. some people just have too much time and i guess get a sick twisted sense of fun and accomplishment to harass and take down other people online | ||
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Funchucks
Canada2113 Posts
The social drama immediately preceding the suicide is not the cause, only the trigger. If you can be driven over the edge by getting dumped by an internet boyfriend and having a MySpace flamewar, you've got to be dangling off it to begin with. So really, if you want to blame the death of this girl on something, look at her life as a whole, not the little internet spat she had immediately before her suicide. From hearing her parents' side of the story, we know almost nothing about her life. This was a girl who, when playfully summing herself up with an acronym of her name, included "Neglected." She hung herself when she was left alone while very upset and her mother was fully aware of it and fully aware of the reasons. The fact that, under these circumstances, her parents are busying themselves pointing fingers in the media doesn't exactly argue in their favor. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On November 17 2007 01:26 Polar wrote: Every day I am amazed by how fucking awful some people can be. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32164 Posts
On November 17 2007 03:10 Funchucks wrote: I think people are missing the point that teenage drama with kids being mean to each other and responsible adults not quite living up to the standards you'd expect is normal. Committing suicide is not. The social drama immediately preceding the suicide is not the cause, only the trigger. If you can be driven over the edge by getting dumped by an internet boyfriend and having a MySpace flamewar, you've got to be dangling off it to begin with. So really, if you want to blame the death of this girl on something, look at her life as a whole, not the little internet spat she had immediately before her suicide. From hearing her parents' side of the story, we know almost nothing about her life. This was a girl who, when playfully summing herself up with an acronym of her name, included "Neglected." She hung herself when she was left alone while very upset and her mother was fully aware of it and fully aware of the reasons. The fact that, under these circumstances, her parents are busying themselves pointing fingers in the media doesn't exactly argue in their favor. Yeah, what the other parents did is fucked, no doubt about it. But you're pretty spot on. If your daughter is crying over myspace (this is pretty fucked to begin with) and you're not doing anything about it, you're probably a fucking moron. | ||
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XCetron
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On November 17 2007 02:04 Funchucks wrote: Let's look at the story here. Megan is an unhappy girl. Megan's friend cheers her up with a fake internet boyfriend (with the apparent approval and minor assistance of her parents). Megan, now cheered up, yet wholly dependent on her fictional boyfriend's approval, figures she's moved up in the world and ditches her old friend as beneath her. Old friend bitterly regrets fluffing Megan's ego, begins campaign to pull her back down to earth, overdoes it. Megan ends up 6 feet under. There is a fine line between tragedy and comedy. It's very sad that your teenage daughter commits suicide, but you can't go around and blame all the participants in her ordinary teenage girl drama. This kind of bullshit is the air teenagers breathe. Megan's parents are fucked up. What kind of petty idiocy was that with the foosball table? "You killed our daughter! We're smashing your toy! So there!" We're obviously not dealing with the parents of the year here. I wouldn't take their view of Megan's friend's parents' role too seriously. You need to look again at the story there. Megan and her "friend" were not friends when the fake account was created. It was only after they had a falling out that the "friend's" parents created the fake account, not to cheer her up but to find out what Megan really thinks about this "friend". I could go on, but you need to read more carefully before you dismiss the tragedy of this story as anything close to a comedy. This is not a case of "ordinary teenage girl drama," this is a case where two adults decided to get involved in "ordinary teenage girl drama" in a way that eventually led to the death of a girl they knew was mentally unstable. Ordinary teenage girl drama is dismissed because it's ordinary teenage girls who are participating in it. They don't know any better, and so they can be forgiven to some extent. Parents, however, are supposed to know better and thus cannot be forgiven for doing the same things. There's a difference between two teenagers getting into a fistfight and one getting beaten up, and a grown adult getting into a fistfight with a teenager and beating them up. In that same vein, there's a difference between teenage girls conspiring to demean a teenage girl, and adults conpiring to do the same. There is no comedy here, this a case of reprehensible and unforgivable behavior by a group of adults that led to a terrible tragedy. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On November 17 2007 03:10 Funchucks wrote: I think people are missing the point that teenage drama with kids being mean to each other and responsible adults not quite living up to the standards you'd expect is normal. Committing suicide is not. The social drama immediately preceding the suicide is not the cause, only the trigger. If you can be driven over the edge by getting dumped by an internet boyfriend and having a MySpace flamewar, you've got to be dangling off it to begin with. So really, if you want to blame the death of this girl on something, look at her life as a whole, not the little internet spat she had immediately before her suicide. From hearing her parents' side of the story, we know almost nothing about her life. This was a girl who, when playfully summing herself up with an acronym of her name, included "Neglected." She hung herself when she was left alone while very upset and her mother was fully aware of it and fully aware of the reasons. The fact that, under these circumstances, her parents are busying themselves pointing fingers in the media doesn't exactly argue in their favor. While it's true that we're only hearing one side of the story, and that it's likely her parents had issues as well, it doesn't change the fact that the parents of the "friend" behaved in an unforgivable manner. Parents, as adults, are held to a higher standard under the law for a reason. There's a reason that adults can be prosecuted for things where a minor would only be given a slap on the wrist. They're supposed to know better, whether they do or not. The fact that there are a lot a irresponsible parents doesn't suddenly make it okay for all parents to be irresponsible. Just because something is prevalent, and sadly no longer surprising, doesn't make it any less wrong. Also, let's not forget that what these parents did in this case was not ordinary parental negligence. These people created a rather elaborate ruse to conspire against a teenage girl simply because she didn't get along with their daughter. If you think that is anywhere close to "normal,", "typical," or "expected," then you must live in a very fucked up part of the world. This is not a couple of parents who were negligent and didn't properly supervise their kids. This is a couple that committed an overt act with the specific intent to deceive and mess with a girl they knew was unstable. That leads me to my next point in which it appears the "friend's" parents had some idea that the girl was mentally unstable. "According to Tina, Megan had gone on vacations with this family. They knew how she struggled with depression, that she took medication." If true, this makes the actions of the parents of the "friend" even more unforgivable. Not only were they conspiring against a teenage girl, but they were conspiring against a teenage girl they knew had a history of depression and took medication for. If they knew about her particular circumstances, then any argument that this was remotely close to "ordinary" behavior goes completely out the window. | ||
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kalami
United States214 Posts
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