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Ready2[ESC]
Profile Joined October 2002
Hungary1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-12 20:15:57
October 12 2007 20:14 GMT
#261
On October 13 2007 05:09 MasterOfChaos wrote:
Even from top it can rotate clock and anticlockwise. The problem because seh is flatshaded you cannot recognize which is her left and her right leg. If you project an object and its mirror image to a plane they are indestinguishable.
When she is standing on her left leg she rotates clockwise, when standing on the right leg, CCW.
But IMO that has nothing to do with brainsides.


Yeah it does not. But what you see initially supposedly does have something to do with it. Your brain chooses one and you see that most of the time. Although most ppl are able to switch between the 2 but one comes more naturaly. That should be the more dominant brain side. Supposedly.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-12 20:31:35
October 12 2007 20:16 GMT
#262
Another dancing illusion http://www.vimeo.com/93244

I've opened the Gif with animation shop
http://ftp.jasc.com/pub/ans305ev.exe
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Animation-Shop-Download-2929.html

And I'm making the slideshow of the gif frames go back and forth at verying speeds. It makes it really clear why it works and its much easier to understand. Its actually pretty cool and more fun to look at this way.
Its Lol because you'll advance from frame 1-34 then back again and its the same direction spinning the whole time.

I have a feeling that 34 frames is some magic number for optical illusions like this. Also there are a couple frames in there that sorta skip which probably further confuse your brain in there. I'm gonna break it all down frame by frame and post it up.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
October 12 2007 20:26 GMT
#263
thanks for the analysis, it was startin to bug the fuck outta me
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-12 20:45:23
October 12 2007 20:30 GMT
#264
Here let me break down the first 4 frames and you can see how it works exactly.

It all depends on the perspective of the feet. From under or below :: or the side/eye-level or top.

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[image loading]


I was planning to break down every single frame like this but I don't feel like doing it right now.

I think what this ultimately breaks down to is whether you are a TITS man or an ASS man. Whichever you see first is the direction it spins.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
October 12 2007 20:33 GMT
#265
Everytime I open this thread I see it counter clock wise and after opening the spoiler I see it clockwise im confused.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 12 2007 20:40 GMT
#266
On October 13 2007 05:33 Yuljan wrote:
Everytime I open this thread I see it counter clock wise and after opening the spoiler I see it clockwise im confused.

thats weird since reading should stimulate the left brain, which would make it appear counter clockwise
i think
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Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
October 12 2007 20:42 GMT
#267
Whatever I can only see bitch moving counter-clockwise No matter how much I look at the picture can`t see it moving clockwise.
Climbing walls of an endless circle
iD.NicKy
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
France767 Posts
October 12 2007 20:46 GMT
#268
it's so weird, my brain is confused sometimes T_T
cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
October 12 2007 20:48 GMT
#269
thats the craziest thing ive ever seen.
cava!
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-12 20:49:57
October 12 2007 20:49 GMT
#270
Ass Men = Clockwise
Tits Men = CounterClockwise

Close thread.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
October 12 2007 20:54 GMT
#271
I only get clockwise.
TheWinter
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada29 Posts
October 12 2007 21:01 GMT
#272
Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"

"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"

In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated)
There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.


Every little step she takes breaks the chambers in her chest.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-12 21:19:29
October 12 2007 21:17 GMT
#273
nevermind
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
October 12 2007 21:17 GMT
#274
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote:
Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"

"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"

In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated)
There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.




It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
October 12 2007 21:21 GMT
#275
On October 13 2007 03:09 Funchucks wrote:
Consider a silhouette made by parallel beams of light on a flat screen, of the dancer turning clockwise (as imagined from above), turning to her right. The parts of her body on the right side of the image will be moving toward you, and the parts of her body on the left side will be moving away.

Now consider the silhouette of the same dancer performing the same action, but with the light source and flat screen rotated 180 degrees, a perfect half-turn, around the dancer. She is still turning to her right, still clockwise as imagined from above. The parts of her body on the right side of the image will still be moving toward you, and the parts on the left will still be moving away.

This silhouette will be flipped left-to-right compared to the first one, but otherwise identical.

Now imagine you are watching the dancer through a mirror, not a silhouette but directly seeing her. She would look the same as a dancer turning to her left. The parts of her body on the right side of the image would be moving away from you, while those on the left would be moving toward you.

Now imagine watching the original silhouette through a mirror. The direction of her rotation should be reversed by the mirror, but the mirrored silhouette is identical to the silhouette from the opposite side. Although one image is derived from the dancer facing you then turning to her left, while the other image is derived from her facing away then turning to her right, they are identical.

Since, a parallel-light silhouette does not allow you to distinguish between a mirrored image or an opposite-side silhouette, you can't determine which side you're watching from unless there is a known asymmetry. For instance, if her left hand was a lobster claw and you knew it, when her breasts faced right, you could judge that the lobster claw was behind her and determine the direction of her spin from that. If the lobster claw appears next to the right (following the breasts), she is turning to her right, if it appears next on the left, she is turning to her left (preceding the breasts).

For a perspective view rather than a parallel-light silhouette, the parts of her body will change size as they move closer or farther. If her hand grows, you know it is moving toward you. If her foot shrinks, it is moving away. This would also be a way to judge the direction she is turning.

I believe that there is a perspective cue in this image. Notice that the image is being moved up and down so that her lifted leg appears to be holding at the same height. I think her lifted leg appears longer when it is closer, so the toes are lower, and the body (most noticably the supporting foot) is raised to hide this and confuse the eye.

So when the feet are closest together vertically, the lifted leg appears longer, is closest to the camera, and is therefore in front. While when they are farthest apart vertically, the lifted leg appears shorter, is farthest from the camera, and is therefore in back.

By this reasoning, she is turning to her right, or clockwise from above.

I think this is only a perspective view rotation which has been altered to seem more like a parallel-light silhouette, and if you see her turning to her left, you're missing visual cues that conflict with this interpretation. But I'm not terribly certain.

Any counterarguments?


what I said earlier about the effects of speed. I think the difference in size with the perspective is too hard to make out, but differences in lateral speed across the picture caused by perspective is much easier
TheWinter
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada29 Posts
October 12 2007 21:27 GMT
#276
On October 13 2007 06:17 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote:
Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"

"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"

In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated)
There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.




It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.


Can I get a response from someone other then charliemurphy (the tl netter not the comedian that guy is fucking hilarious)
Every little step she takes breaks the chambers in her chest.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
October 12 2007 21:33 GMT
#277
On October 12 2007 16:28 OneOther wrote:
omg i must be retarded i still cant see the counter clockwise


put your hand on the chick andd only look at the shadow. its creepy
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jademoo
Profile Joined September 2007
United States7 Posts
October 12 2007 21:35 GMT
#278
When I first saw it I could only see it counter-clockwise. Then after I looked at it again I could only see it clockwise. Then both.

It's very simple. When the lower foot is facing to the right (3 o'clock) imagine it is continuing its path by then going to 12 o'clock (counter-clockwise) INSTEAD of then going to 6 o'clock (clockwise).
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-12 21:44:50
October 12 2007 21:43 GMT
#279
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betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
October 12 2007 21:53 GMT
#280
On October 13 2007 06:27 TheWinter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2007 06:17 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On October 13 2007 06:01 TheWinter wrote:
Ok.. am I retarded?.. I just had a fight with the guy who linked with me because I was trying to explain.. "if you look at the image from the TOP of her HEAD the image is rotating COUNTCLOCKWISE"

"if you look at the image from the BOTTOM of her FOOT the image is rotating CLOCKWISE"

In order to use the word spin you must have an axis.. for me the axis is from the bottom of her foot(the one that is moving LESS) to the top of her head (this is the most reliable axis you can take... by that I mean this is the axis where her spinning is the most concentrated)
There is no wrong answer this way.. anyone who said its obvious which way she is spinning is fucking stupid.




It has a lot to do with 'insufficient data' to the brain. See the pics I posted above. You can't see her elbow or whatever and your brain goes "Oh it must be behind" or "Oh it must be in front" and makes everything else match up the same way.


Can I get a response from someone other then charliemurphy (the tl netter not the comedian that guy is fucking hilarious)


I think most people are thinking of viewing from above.
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