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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26499 Posts
March 11 2025 17:17 GMT
#15841
I’m not especially a fan of rooting for deaths in most instances, but hey I can get it coming from a place of fury.

Zeo seems to take an almost happy gleefulness in his cheerleading that is fucking gross.
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hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland963 Posts
March 11 2025 17:50 GMT
#15842
You can tell how the FSB funding cycles work pretty well by now.
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maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5771 Posts
March 11 2025 18:22 GMT
#15843
On March 12 2025 01:19 pmp10 wrote:
Apparently Ukraine has hit Moscow with a massive drone raid.
Their strategic gain is nil so it's almost certainly a sign of defiance to Trump.
Still a big waste of war material.

And you say that based on what?
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
785 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-11 21:37:17
March 11 2025 21:33 GMT
#15844
On March 11 2025 23:11 0x64 wrote:
Remember that homophobic Russia call their heros Gay-Roy :D, probably easier to sacrifice them that way.
I understand it's just an attempt at humor but
1. It's not pronounced this way, it's distinctly different
2. Ukranians use the exactly same word for "hero"

Picking on language isn't very efficient in this situation in general, as Russian and Ukranian languages share a lot of words / lexemes, just like in this particular case.

And as far as I know, unfortunately most post-USSR countries have somewhat similar levels of homophobia - though of course it has been amplified a lot in Russia since 2022. But before 2022 - I would guess Ukraine had similar level homophobia to Russia, maybe a bit less.

Though I guess "how it used to be" doesn't matter nearly as much as "how it will be in future", and this is where Russia has a grim outlook in that regard.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
March 12 2025 06:08 GMT
#15845
On March 11 2025 17:19 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2025 22:53 ETisME wrote:
On March 10 2025 22:03 Nezgar wrote:
On March 10 2025 20:37 ETisME wrote:
On March 10 2025 18:03 sertas wrote:
On March 10 2025 11:13 ETisME wrote:
On March 10 2025 10:01 KwarK wrote:
On March 10 2025 09:03 ETisME wrote:
On March 10 2025 07:30 KwarK wrote:
On March 10 2025 05:03 Yurie wrote:
[quote]

Russia not accepting peace keeping forces or Ukraine joining defensive alliances is the most critical point. The rest I think they could hammer out in a negotiation.

Russia requires that Ukraine surrender national sovereignty because they don’t believe that Ukraine can be allowed sovereignty. Ukraine believes that it has sovereignty and, like any free people, will never give it up willingly. There is no room for compromise, it’s not like they can be sovereign every other day.

The official demands are:
1. no NATO membership for Ukraine;
2. Ukraine’s recognition of Russia’s annexation of four Ukrainian provinces (even though Russia does not physically control all the territory of three of them);
3. Ukraine’s demilitarization and denazification (code for the installation of a pro-Russia puppet in Kyiv); and
4. the lifting of anti-Russia sanctions.

i don't think both sides are seeing this as end all be all for Ukraine. Or else we wouldn't have a peace talk that almost went through in 2022.

So in your world Russia wants Ukraine disarmed and restrained because it doesn’t want to assault it? Kinda like how Hitler wanted Czechoslovakia to cede their defensive lines in the Sudetenland because of how much he wasn’t planning to invade.

These are literally Russia's demands for the peace deal.
I have only added a remark that BOTH sides don't see it as end all be all, which is how you see it.
Especially the "no room to comprises", which is just silly when they were already thinking about exchanging territory and Ukraine would have to pick which land to exchange and which land they would have to forego


Russia would never accept the current lines to be frozen, they want a lot more to even consider peace, this is already an unacceptable position to start negotiating from

Ukraine asked for return for Crimea as well, that's never going to happen.
There's more effort to escalate than negotiation last year, and now the deal has to be made in the worst position.
The only bargaining chip Ukraine has left is the Russian's frozen assets. (that is still pending legal matters)


I know that you are a bit stuck in a disinformation bubble, but the biggest bargaining chip is that Ukraine can hold out for longer than Russia can keep up their invasion, barring the USA officially taking sides and supporting Russia itself.

Russia cannot accept any kind of peacekeepers in or security guaranteed for Ukraine because any peace deal or ceasefire is just a break for them to gather and replenish their forces, and then go again later. If a peace deal means that they cannot go again later, it is not a viable peace deal for them.
Russia will continue their invasion(s) against anyone who isn't part of a defensive alliance or has other security measures in place, or until it physically cannot do so anymore.

This is why sending additional diplomats does nothing and why sending more ammunition and other hardware is the fastest way to peace. Russia understands no other language. The only reason why Russia is even "entertaining" the thought of peace talks is to look more reasonable in the eyes of the Western world, hoping that this will erode the support for Ukraine.


Even Ukraine is in negotiation for peace now, so is this all pointless to you then?
If you think all thee diplomatic solution don't matter at all, then you are essentially saying the entire Russia to be taken down.


Of course they are. They don't want to be seen as the assholes who don't want peace!
I don't see an actual peace deal made any time soon. Earliest in winter when it gets cold again and the conflict would be frozen anyway. Lets see what happens until then

Ukraine and the US reached a ceasefire under the condition Russia agrees, but Viktor Sobolev from Russia has refused it, saying Ukraine would just spend the time to regroup and rearm up.
I guess we are about to see whether the pro Ukraine crowd is right or Russia will just finish Ukraine off in a couple of months.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3390 Posts
March 12 2025 06:46 GMT
#15846
On March 12 2025 03:22 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2025 01:19 pmp10 wrote:
Apparently Ukraine has hit Moscow with a massive drone raid.
Their strategic gain is nil so it's almost certainly a sign of defiance to Trump.
Still a big waste of war material.

And you say that based on what?

Based on the grand total of 3 Russians killed.
Ukrainian drones carry too small payload to damage cities.
Any target that isn't flammable or explosive is hit purely for political and morale reasons.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5771 Posts
March 12 2025 07:23 GMT
#15847
On March 12 2025 15:46 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2025 03:22 maybenexttime wrote:
On March 12 2025 01:19 pmp10 wrote:
Apparently Ukraine has hit Moscow with a massive drone raid.
Their strategic gain is nil so it's almost certainly a sign of defiance to Trump.
Still a big waste of war material.

And you say that based on what?

Based on the grand total of 3 Russians killed.
Ukrainian drones carry too small payload to damage cities.
Any target that isn't flammable or explosive is hit purely for political and morale reasons.

What are you even on about. Ukraine doesn't target cities to kill civilians. There are valid military targets in Moscow and the surrounding areas.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4609 Posts
March 12 2025 08:06 GMT
#15848
On March 11 2025 23:28 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2025 23:06 Luolis wrote:
On March 11 2025 21:10 zeo wrote:
First reports and images comming in of Russian units entering central Sudza. Remains to be seen how far into Ukraine the rout will go but for certain the pipe operation will go down as one of the great military operations in human history.

Its difficult to comprehend in our modern times that we, as a species, are decendants of those that pulled off the heroic and epic feats from Gilgamesh and the Iliad through the chivalry of the middle ages and both World Wars. Yet here we are, the Trojan Horse in real life and on camera. Eight hundred men traversing for four days through 16km of a pipeline 1.4m in diameter caused the collapse of the Sudza pocket in days.

Watching the footage and the post interviews maybe Achilles and Odysseus are not so far removed from us after all. The human spirit is an incredible thing.

edit: here is a video with a good general insight into the pipe operation:

I hope all those Russians get turned into paste. Wastes of life.

Same fate as the 60.000 dead North Koreans, not a trace they were even there. RIP

Show nested quote +
On March 11 2025 23:11 0x64 wrote:
On March 11 2025 23:06 Luolis wrote:
On March 11 2025 21:10 zeo wrote:
First reports and images comming in of Russian units entering central Sudza. Remains to be seen how far into Ukraine the rout will go but for certain the pipe operation will go down as one of the great military operations in human history.

Its difficult to comprehend in our modern times that we, as a species, are decendants of those that pulled off the heroic and epic feats from Gilgamesh and the Iliad through the chivalry of the middle ages and both World Wars. Yet here we are, the Trojan Horse in real life and on camera. Eight hundred men traversing for four days through 16km of a pipeline 1.4m in diameter caused the collapse of the Sudza pocket in days.

Watching the footage and the post interviews maybe Achilles and Odysseus are not so far removed from us after all. The human spirit is an incredible thing.

edit: here is a video with a good general insight into the pipe operation:
https://youtu.be/U9PXPZ95h6A?si=B05RmARh7i_5j8Ac

I hope all those Russians get turned into paste. Wastes of life.


Remember that homophobic Russia call their heros Gay-Roy :D, probably easier to sacrifice them that way.

Zeo sounded totally unhinged on this one, like he was masturbating while writing that post. I hope I get warned for my post or banned, my brain can't take it anymore.

And to think its only going to get worse for you as the hugbox walls start closing in. lol


Oh noo are you menacing me with more dissing?
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18250 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-12 08:58:38
March 12 2025 08:55 GMT
#15849
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
March 12 2025 09:20 GMT
#15850
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.


It's based on which leg of Trump is on the ground first in the morning after waking up
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4609 Posts
March 12 2025 10:43 GMT
#15851
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.


Republicans have been voting for Ukraine support, republican voters are not all dumb idiot that think Ukraine falling will have no consequences in the world.

We will have to see the outcome of this Chaos.
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 12 2025 12:26 GMT
#15852
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.

Trump is deeply insecure about Obama getting a Nobel Peace Prize and thinks resolving Ukraine vs Russia will get him one.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17707 Posts
March 12 2025 12:28 GMT
#15853
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.


Ukraine's position hasn't changed in 3 years.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17707 Posts
March 12 2025 12:28 GMT
#15854
On March 12 2025 21:26 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.

Trump is deeply insecure about Obama getting a Nobel Peace Prize and thinks resolving Ukraine vs Russia will get him one.


Sure, but ceasefire is not peace. It's just temporary suspension of conflict.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
March 12 2025 12:42 GMT
#15855
On March 12 2025 21:28 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2025 21:26 Gahlo wrote:
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.

Trump is deeply insecure about Obama getting a Nobel Peace Prize and thinks resolving Ukraine vs Russia will get him one.


Sure, but ceasefire is not peace. It's just temporary suspension of conflict.

His previous actions lead me to believe he's not aware of that fact.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7139 Posts
March 12 2025 13:12 GMT
#15856
On March 12 2025 21:42 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2025 21:28 Manit0u wrote:
On March 12 2025 21:26 Gahlo wrote:
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.

Trump is deeply insecure about Obama getting a Nobel Peace Prize and thinks resolving Ukraine vs Russia will get him one.


Sure, but ceasefire is not peace. It's just temporary suspension of conflict.

His previous actions lead me to believe he's not aware of that fact.


His previous actions lead me to believe he's not aware of facts in general.

FTFY
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1966 Posts
March 12 2025 13:37 GMT
#15857
On March 11 2025 21:10 zeo wrote:
First reports and images comming in of Russian units entering central Sudza. Remains to be seen how far into Ukraine the rout will go but for certain the pipe operation will go down as one of the great military operations in human history.

Its difficult to comprehend in our modern times that we, as a species, are decendants of those that pulled off the heroic and epic feats from Gilgamesh and the Iliad through the chivalry of the middle ages and both World Wars. Yet here we are, the Trojan Horse in real life and on camera. Eight hundred men traversing for four days through 16km of a pipeline 1.4m in diameter caused the collapse of the Sudza pocket in days.

Watching the footage and the post interviews maybe Achilles and Odysseus are not so far removed from us after all. The human spirit is an incredible thing.

edit: here is a video with a good general insight into the pipe operation:
https://youtu.be/U9PXPZ95h6A?si=B05RmARh7i_5j8Ac

NATO bombing Belgrade was one of the most heroic and epic military operations of all time. As clever and devastating as the ambush on Pang Juan. 1000 aircraft against over 100,000 men. 2 dead to over 1000. Simply incredible heroism, spirit, and chivalry.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22269 Posts
March 12 2025 14:06 GMT
#15858
On March 12 2025 17:55 Acrofales wrote:
Ia m so confused by US' politics regarding Ukraine.

I understood supporting Ukraine.

I even understood squeezing Ukraine and courting Russia.

I don't understand doing one then the other then the first again. Ukraine's position during these weeks has not changed, as far as I can tell.


Could just be indecisiveness.
Once he picks one the plans change for other participants.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43805 Posts
March 12 2025 14:19 GMT
#15859
The person most recently in the room with him was presumably pro Ukraine. Possibly someone from the military. But Elon will see this and talk him into changing course and then find out it was and get them fired.

Trump is such a fucking weak leader it’s an embarrassment. Physical access to the man allows randoms to dictate major policy shifts.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22269 Posts
March 12 2025 14:45 GMT
#15860
Grimusk Wormdong weasling his way into the man‘s unstable perception of reality
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