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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7225 Posts
February 28 2022 02:04 GMT
#41
Give him crimea, remove the dam, the areas under rebel control go back to Ukraine.

That at least gives him an out on Crimea.

Cuban missle crisis was resolved with a concession so both sides could take a win. I think we need to put something on the table unless we believe hell be removed from power before he can escalate to point of no return


How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 03:20:16
February 28 2022 03:18 GMT
#42
Russia has violated Canadian Airspace.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7225 Posts
February 28 2022 03:36 GMT
#43
Im extremely concerned about the sotu on Tuesday. The US government will all be in one place. If ever there was a time for Putin to pull some shit that would be it.

Im probably just being extremely paranoid. Has it crossed anyone elses mind?
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42650 Posts
February 28 2022 03:45 GMT
#44
On February 28 2022 12:36 Sadist wrote:
Im extremely concerned about the sotu on Tuesday. The US government will all be in one place. If ever there was a time for Putin to pull some shit that would be it.

Im probably just being extremely paranoid. Has it crossed anyone elses mind?

US intelligence seems to know Putin’s plans before Putin’s generals do. I’m not super worried.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 28 2022 04:08 GMT
#45
Air raid sirens going off in Kyiv.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 05:18:35
February 28 2022 05:13 GMT
#46
Russian markets are supposedly delaying opening until 3:00 PM after their initial delays to 10:00, to be formally announced at 1 PM. BIG disclaimer: this is a Belarusian source that is underground after conflicts with the government surrounding the Minsk protests in 2020 and is currently classified as an "extremist organization" by the Belarusian government because of their past coverage, so they have a pretty clear horse in this race; take with a big grain of salt. Seen it a couple places now but haven't found any direct confirmation.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1498158900054532101?s=20&t=cwGcDVO_tSmRjOJ88-7M6w

Not sure if delaying will actually help at all when it comes to the figurative bombs dropping on the market. Opening at 3:00 seems like it would just concentrate their force and panic selling even worse, so I'm not too sure about this one, but given the better documented delays already seen it is possible.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 05:39:48
February 28 2022 05:39 GMT
#47
or, by 3 PM the war will be over(they think).

Putin wants about half of Ukraine, he wants it split into east and west as Koreas'.
who thinks he will settle for Crimea(which was his anyway) is living in another universe.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 28 2022 05:43 GMT
#48
I don't expect these talks to go anywhere, but they may begin soon

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10655 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 06:15:11
February 28 2022 06:09 GMT
#49
Well seeing that theres reportedly a massive Russian convoy heading to Kyiv, i dont expect these talks to have any substance at all.

I get crazy anxiety thinking of escalation past the point of no return regarding the rest of the West involvement.\

Edit: Are we allowed to post news streams? Its DW News livestream, which Ive found to be the most informative on recent updates if youre like me and dont watch cable.+ Show Spoiler +
Skol
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1056 Posts
February 28 2022 06:39 GMT
#50


I want that in Germany as well. We're money launderers paradise at the moment.

I watch the english DW news stream as well mostly, they also got banned in Russia earlier this year as a retaliation for us banning RT. Which is another reason for me to trust them.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
February 28 2022 06:53 GMT
#51
Canada would love that as well. Vancouver was basically ruined by foreign property owners. The entire idea of allowing foreign entities to buy property, residential property, is really bad for housing prices.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9646 Posts
February 28 2022 06:55 GMT
#52
I mentioned we should tackle this a week ago, but KwarK pointed out that our government doesn't really want to be fucking with our financial system.
I think he was probably right, and that this is a symbolic move from London and nothing will actually come of it in terms of results.
RIP Meatloaf <3
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8649 Posts
February 28 2022 07:02 GMT
#53
literally every first world country has a foreign investor problem lol
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
February 28 2022 07:08 GMT
#54
On February 28 2022 15:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
I mentioned we should tackle this a week ago, but KwarK pointed out that our government doesn't really want to be fucking with our financial system.
I think he was probably right, and that this is a symbolic move from London and nothing will actually come of it in terms of results.

I'm not sure about that. It's what people said about Germany and yet they've now supported suspending nord stream 2, disconnecting Russia from Swift etc. All things which hurt them (and my own country actually) a lot.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42650 Posts
February 28 2022 07:19 GMT
#55
On February 28 2022 16:08 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2022 15:55 Jockmcplop wrote:
I mentioned we should tackle this a week ago, but KwarK pointed out that our government doesn't really want to be fucking with our financial system.
I think he was probably right, and that this is a symbolic move from London and nothing will actually come of it in terms of results.

I'm not sure about that. It's what people said about Germany and yet they've now supported suspending nord stream 2, disconnecting Russia from Swift etc. All things which hurt them (and my own country actually) a lot.

Germany also makes things though. Britain just moves money for people.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1056 Posts
February 28 2022 07:22 GMT
#56
There's still lots of opportunity here imho. The last 7 days showed that nothing is carved in stone, the world is a different place compared to last monday. I'm not scared at all, i'm rather optimistic. I grew up next to the iron curtain under constant threat of total annihilation and you get used to it.

On February 28 2022 10:28 Nyxisto wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2022 09:37 LegalLord wrote:
Finances are kind of global and intertwined in a way that nobody really understands. Don't forget that we once had a global recession because some banks in the US made bad loans for buying houses, which doesn't feel like it'd have that kind of effect until you see how much of the rest of the market depends on these things.


If there's one lesson from both covid and now this I think it is that the 'markets rule everything' era is over. There's seems to be a shift now, very quickly that security and political goals take priority and that if you need to make resources available it can be done, and what finance has to say about it is secondary.


As long as the nukes don't fly, the world may have changed for the better.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1950 Posts
February 28 2022 07:38 GMT
#57
On February 28 2022 16:22 r00ty wrote:
There's still lots of opportunity here imho. The last 7 days showed that nothing is carved in stone, the world is a different place compared to last monday. I'm not scared at all, i'm rather optimistic. I grew up next to the iron curtain under constant threat of total annihilation and you get used to it.

Show nested quote +
On February 28 2022 10:28 Nyxisto wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 28 2022 09:37 LegalLord wrote:
Finances are kind of global and intertwined in a way that nobody really understands. Don't forget that we once had a global recession because some banks in the US made bad loans for buying houses, which doesn't feel like it'd have that kind of effect until you see how much of the rest of the market depends on these things.


If there's one lesson from both covid and now this I think it is that the 'markets rule everything' era is over. There's seems to be a shift now, very quickly that security and political goals take priority and that if you need to make resources available it can be done, and what finance has to say about it is secondary.


As long as the nukes don't fly, the world may have changed for the better.

Yeah, obviously this is horrible situation, but it it can have positive outcomes.
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-28 07:45:33
February 28 2022 07:44 GMT
#58
Russian Central Bank just increased their interest rate from 8,5% to 20% and the russian Rubel tanked about 1/4th of its value
The money printing starts I gues. I take that is a sign, that the sanctions against russia are working.
With that I m hoping for more Protests among the russian people against the War of Putin.
Source (in German):
https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-ukraine-krieg-montag-101.html
MaxPax
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 28 2022 09:51 GMT
#59
Mariupol still holding out.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
February 28 2022 10:12 GMT
#60
The Nagorno-Karabakh War went for about a month and a half, so we might be seeing something along the lines of that.
I have an Assyrian friend here in Australia whos family is in Nova Kakhovka (around 300-400 households of Assyrians). Some of her family have no water/electricity/network and have been stranded in their basements for 5 days so far. They are too scared to leave their house
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