So, during May our neighbours go away every year for the summer. Which is fine and all. They're pretty decent neighbours, the husband's kind of a douche, the wife's sweet and polite. But regardless, a decent lot. Last year, they let an old chipper couple take care of their house next door while they were away. Our houses all side by side, as the term neighbour implies, when I'm out on the porch barbecuing I could wave over and say, "hey!" and enter jovial small talk. This year, they let about six young adults around my age rent the house. That could be kind of cool, they're my age after all, right? Shit, might even have a drink with them if they're cool.
As I write this, it's 4:05 AM.
I wake up, at 2:50 AM to, "lovin', it's what I got!" And I think, what a great summer song! And then I hear a hockey puck smack wood. Somebody's taking slap shots at the side of their deck! Hooray, hockey! Canada's national sport!
Too bad that relaxing summer tune is being butchered by some ugly hippie girl playing guitar with a bunch of annoyingly voiced girls and dirty looking guys in hoody's & bandanna's next door. The kind of girls where not only is their natural voice annoying, but they get louder and more annoying just to command extra attention.
So, they've done multiple times before. On the most recent occasion, I got up, went out onto my porch and said "SHUT UP AND GET INSIDE, PEOPLE NEED TO SLEEP." (I censored myself on this occasion.) Either they were more coherent, or I was louder at that time, but they all obeyed and scampered inside immediately. A few filtered out again later, but when I heard them talking again, all I needed to do was open the door for them to run inside.
As I write this, it's 4:15 AM.
So, anyway, I get dressed, head down to the porch, open the door and step into the night where their sing-a-long sounds worse and their hockey game is a guy and a girl flirting with eachother wrestling over the puck now.
As much as I wanted to yell at the top of my lungs, I didn't. I raised my voice and called over, "Hey!!". No one even sees or notices as i'm yelling from a darkened porch. I raise it up a notch. "HEY!!!". A couple turn and one tries to quiet the others but isn't doing any good at all. So after a brief wait I yell, "HEY!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP". Diplomacy is for regular hours of the day. Half of them turn, the other half too inebriated and still, "Eh, what was that?". I continue yelling like that saying, "SOME OF US HAVE TO WORK TOMORROW". At this time, the less inebriated and the ones possibly held responsible really start to try to quiet their guests.
A short ugly fat girl with lesbian hair pipes in, "Hey suck it buddy!" And a few others start to raise their voices in agreement.
I ignore her and target the tenants and repeat my earlier statement with more force.
A slightly overweight guy in a cap and a green hoody. "Hey, how 'bout I eat the peanuts out of your ass". (That's why I don't party with any of the guys in my town, this accumulates to the extent of their wit). Seriously, any bar in town they are all the same. A good number of decent people, but too many hicks or welfare cases interspersed fucking up the whole atmosphere of the place.
Being too tired for wit I fired off the honest reply, "Hey ugly, no one asked you. Maybe in your skiddy neighbourhood people party next to each others houses at all hours of the night, but people here actually have shit to do other than collect welfare. So shut the fuck up, people are trying to sleep"
At this time, I'm happy (and frankly, really surprised) I got the last word as the tenants actually told them to be quiet and ushered them into the house. Two girls apologize (though of course talk shit later) However, as everyone gets ushered inside, I know I'm in for more. It's a party, there's smoke breaks, and they're not done singing with the hippie who can't play the guitar.
Long story short, the next time they came out more banter ensued and they were ushered inside again. But they eventually kept coming out, it's a party, and smoke breaks are outside. (I called the neighbours who let them rent the house, and with them partying in the background again let them know what was going on, at what hour.)
So, unfortunately, during my exchange to save the rest of the neighbourhood, I had woken my sister up. (Which now makes me the douche).
Regardless, what revenge can I exact on my inconsiderate neighbours?
Plan A: I wake them up with lawn mowers and hammering in a couple hours, at 7:00 AM. I do some extremely loud yard work for a couple hours or more etc... It's ok, because the house on the other side is up early, and does the same thing on occasion and the rest of the houses are farther enough away that they won't hear the noise of a lawnmower if it is inbetween two houses thus muffling the sound.
So TL.Net, help me brainstorm. I'm too tired. When I wake up, hopefully there's a good number of ways to make these last 2 weeks with them as annoying for them as possible.
Rule 1. No damage of property. Rule 2. There'll probably be a couple more rules by tomorrow when some suggestions go too extreme.
You can humiliate them in Starcraft, let them pick their favourite race while you random. They'll be like "WTF HAHA ITS GG NOW" but then they'll totally get worker-rushed.
...do you play an instrument? or get some of your friends to create a minor band some trashcans and sticks some stuf around the house and make some noise obviously you dont need a big poster that reads "SUCK IT" for them to understand if u just bother them like they have bothered you
a)ninja-steal the guitar sneakin into the house and then break it into pieces and put them in their front door with a poster sayin "MUSIC IS DEAD" written in blood o,o
b)If any of the rooms in your house are wall-to-wall with your neighbour's house, take 2 sticks/baseball bats/whatever and play some music on that wall >.<
c) Take one speaker or two and put them on the window with some death metal music, they'll be like wtf is this sound, reminds me of daddy yelling and beating me in my childhood T_T
On August 23 2007 18:33 rpf wrote: Do the same shit to them during the day when they're trying to sleep after drinking and staying up all night. They have to sleep at some point, no?
When you're totally hammered you don't exactly wake up from a one man army named Testicles.
Do they have a car? Id guess not from them being welfare, I guess you'd have to rip up their bus passes but that'd be hard. If they do have a car, or van, whatever hippies drive now a days, there's many cliche things you can do. But it'd probably be counter productive to damage their only way away from you. Hippies are challenging people to piss off as everything that annoys us they do for leisure practice. Maybe you could call the cops and say they broke in and are living there now, as that's what hippies do. Or soak them all with emmense amounts of water whenever you see them, hippies hate water, like cats or something. This no property damage rule is really a limiting factor. If it was my neighbours we'd just beat their ass.
well calling the cops would be boring and i think you want to have some fun with that revenge. putting on some Korean highlights (cause thats where the commentators usually go wild ) would be nice. wait for them to sleep and then start the "CHOGULING, CHOGULIIIIIIIIIIIING, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, RIBOOOOOOR, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO , AAAAAAAAAAA"
Somehow trying to wake them up when they do try to sleep would be the best. Dunno how hard that is though. I'm sure you can figure out something to make loud noise. You don't need to do that all the time just regularly every 15minutes or so. So when they think they can get back to sleep you make them realize that's not gonna happen.
call the cops. i'm at college so this one time during finals week, some frat next door was having an outdoor volleyball tournament on their lawn at 3am which really wasn't cool... so i called the cops on them :3
otherwise, just to be evil, put your speakers outside your house and crank it to full volume so nobody on the block can sleep. they'll all come out and think it's your neighbors since they are the only one's outside. you'll get your whole block to tell the neighbors to shut the fuck up.
---- less feasible ideas ----
every time they come out, stand next to the fence jumping up and down naked. ... ... they wont come out anymore.
hurry up and cook/eat 4 packets of the cheap kind of ramen noodle soup. put lots of hot sauce in it. then when your stomach feels funny (mine always does after ramen) go shit on their lawn. or shit in a bag and throw it on their lawn. i actually did this once. long story.
join the party and accidentally burn down the house
join the party. fall down their stairs and sue them
Use fireworks and scare the shit out of them... Then they move. Trust me. I used the same shit with me and my cousin on newyears eve.... It was like 4'o clock, people were trying to sleep... We just wanted to fuck with our neighbours, so we like... Used some big shit, like M14 bombs and a little more, so well... They moved after one week.
"I'm sorry, I already called the cops and they're on their way here. You can either stop this and I'll tell them I played a prank, or you can continue and join the police for a cup of coffee." - but don't call the police, see if it works. lol
On August 23 2007 20:31 fusionsdf wrote: 1. phone police 2. report noise violation 3. should have done this first
lol that is so true, i have no idea why you didn do this first.
otherwise, i would suggest recording a simple music sample that last like 1-2 seconds and make it go over and over again. put volume on ur stereo to max and go to work.
the thing is...if hes making all the noise while the neighbors are trying to sleep (along with the douchbag neighbors) he's still going to look like the asshole when everyone wakes up again
but just before u return, visit a Hi-Fi store and buy yourself a new stereo... oh, and while you are at it prepare an excuse for all the neighbours and buy some building tools and materials cuz u will probably have a big hole in the side of your house or something...
best way is to make a party and tell all your friends (assuming u have them in any number above 20 invited) that they can park on your neighbour's lawn and that they can even plow it a little if they want to... do what suits u
hippies don't use internet cuz it's 'agressive' u know... peace man... killing them would be like doing a whole world a favor. i don't even care how rednecky that sounds actually, if anyone wonders
I've had this happen to me a few times. It's never been that bad though. A nice "SHUT THE FUCK UP!" out the window usually makes them quiet and they simmer down for the rest of the time they're outside...
Hmmm, well you could always be a prick and call the cops the next time they do it. Just claim that theirs underage people drinking there too. That'll usually shut down any party. Even if they are all 18+. Hell you might as well even say you're smelling marijuana coming from them haha. Why not hey?
Another thing you need to realize. Dealing with drunk people while you're sober is pretty much like giving a blind guy the finger. It doesn't do much. They don't care.
Make a percussion ensemble. Practice. Lots. Flaming bag of shit maybe? I bet for a small fee you could find someone else and hire him to piss them off at ungodly hours. Call them every 5 minutes. Get a bunch of people and cycle the calls.
1.buy a paintball gun, pump it up like 20 times and say that you gonna shoot them if they don't stop. 2.Use your stereo. If you like music like death metal and stuff like that TURN UP THE MUSIC AS LOUD AS YOU CAN. But be sure to wear protective against your ears, because you might go deaf for couple of years later. 3.Call the police. 4.Sue them.
On August 23 2007 21:56 Musli wrote: Call a pizza for them, like lots of big pizzas. I'm sure they will be pissed to pay this huge bill ;->
do this, but make sure your're at a pay phone
fireworks at their door at 7 am works as well.
call a bunch of your friends and retaliate at 7 am. or just wait til 4 am when theyre drunk and go and kick the shit outta the hippies with your friends.
I've got shitloads of ideas if anyone wants them in the future. I had the same shit with my neighbours before, they were all like yelling and partying into 2 AM like fuck.... So, I really got pissed off, and yelled " SHUT THE FUCK UP PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SLEEP!" but then they went on thirty minutes later. So i was like crazy. I called the cops, and do like DarkYoDA said.
"I'm sorry, I already called the cops and they're on their way here. You can either stop this and I'll tell them I played a prank, or you can continue and join the police for a cup of coffee."
On August 23 2007 21:56 Musli wrote: Call a pizza for them, like lots of big pizzas. I'm sure they will be pissed to pay this huge bill ;->
do this, but make sure your're at a pay phone
fireworks at their door at 7 am works as well.
call a bunch of your friends and retaliate at 7 am. or just wait til 4 am when theyre drunk and go and kick the shit outta the hippies with your friends.
other than that, cops work too.
OMFG, that's a amazing idea! I'll try that next time i get hippes or guys from other countries screaming in front of my house. Thanx alot, man.
act like you're there best friends the next time it happens, something like "Hey guys, sorry bout the other night, i was real fuckin stressed", ask if u can go over there for a toke, when they reply with something like 'sure man' or 'fuck off you ain't taking our shit'. tell them you recorded it and it's proof they're doing drugs, pull out your cell phone with them being able to see you do it, call 911, and tell the police u have evidence of your next door neighbors doing drugs :-)
1.Turn on some korean rap music, like Epik high or somethin. Turn that shit up loud and they'll go fucking crazy. 2.Invite like 20-25 friends over to a LAN party, get drunk, scream like fucking crazy when you win, let someone comment all the games like... If it was in korea or something. 3.Buy like 30 pizzas. Make sure they're big and they have to pay the bill. They get pissed off then.
The echo chamber making up the 4 foot wide corridor of grass between two residential houses is a great place for the lawnmower at 8am on a Saturday or Sunday morning. Or both. Make sure it's a morning after they come home late.
i had the same thing when i was like 17 so i called a friend over and we snuck over and lit a 100 pack of fireworks in their yard. they all ran like hell and the cops showed up 5 minutes later (they're illegal here)
1) What kind of insult is "Hey why don't I eat peanuts out of your ass"? *shrug* Maybe that's just some canadian slang? O_o
2) I say wake them up extremely early. Loud music, loud mowing, if you have a loud car why not rev it a bit.. you know.. to "warm it up".
You could always try calling the cops and telling them that theres this mysterious car in front of your house (or the neighbors house) thats been there for days and no one knows who it belongs to... that'll get it towed real quick.
Girly? This has been going on all summer. This isn't a neighbourhood for partying anyway Eri. They're my age, but they're acting like stupid highschoolers and not even remotely responsible drinkers. Period.
People here need their rest. In this neighbouhood if you want to be loud, you go inside your house. Not out on the balcony for the neighbourhood to hear.
But nah, can't cause harm or property damage. Paintballs are too messy anyway.
Why shouldn't they care, Eri? They're older than that and should be smart enough to drink responsibly. They can move their party indoors. Or be douche's, and sing for the whole neighbourhood to hear.
On August 24 2007 00:43 Ghin wrote: call the police silly
I started to last night after I called the person who rented the house to them. (They said partying was in their contract and they'd come over this morning and talk with them).
The bad part about calling the police is, it's similar to me going out on the porch and it's a waste of an officer's time. However, I decided last night i'd call the police in the future if they are as rowdy as before. I don't mind them going out on the porch and having a beer and just talking. But playing hockey, and smacking a puck on wood? The hell is the point of that?
You must know that "hippies can't stand death metal" according to Eric Cartman, so play loud one of their cds like "Diabolus in Musica" for instance or "God hates us all" (maybe "Reign in Blood", choose the one that has the most inspiring title to you...).
And takes some notes on their change of attitude ! that must be interesting...!
Lol... I have the same shit, Testie. I know how you feel it. I have a crazy polish family living next to my house, and sometimes around 2 AM i can hear them like yelling, because they can't keep their volume down. One time i got so pissed of that I yelled"SHUT THE FUCK UP PEOPLE HAVE SCHOOL TO GO TO TOMORROW!" then they got quiet and stopped partying and walked inside. Yelling always helps. That's fact.
Invite us back to your place at wcg and we'll tear um up! Hahah actually phoning the cops is the best. From experience you really have to make a bigger deal out of the situation than it is. Don't just phone them and say they're being noisy, be like "These ppl are crazy I can't hear myself think everyones waking up ww3 breaking out OMG" will usually do the trick.
also naz you wrote " buy some of those earpieces that block the sound"
that's just the by far best solution.. much better than being one of those gay lamers trying to ruin the party, someone who is drunk doesn't care about the opinion of one of those gay lamers anyway so it makes no difference how entitled you are to being a gay lamer, it's completely fruitless. (actually generally it helps for a period ranging between 1 and 5 minutes. )
A: Order homosexual strippers to the house. Call in Annonymous B: Use that TL.Net "Caller ID Caller" and flame the fuck out of them with it. C: Get Beyonder's 1page Comment about completly trash talking someone and blow it up and put it on their lawn or door. D: Get there number and post it publicly on TL.net and GG.net. E: Create a BGH Ums with 99999999/9999999 resources, and get TL.net to mass Terran. Equip your cpu to surround sound speakers and amass 200/200 Siege tanks and well... Unload 1s2s3s4s5s6s7s8s9s0s all 2 seconds after enough.
lol jk, um, just call up a cop and tell him ' hey dude, yeah, some fucking assholes are by my house partying at this hour, can you scare the shit out of them with a gun or something please, i really have to work and my wife is pregnant, thanks man'
Me and 3 other friends figured out how to make smoke bombs. Bought 5 pounds of wood stump remover, made about 10 smoke bombs and lit it in a circle around their house.
1 smoke bomb fills up a city block.
Fucking owned.
Of course, in this case they weren't exactly my neighbors but just some party I wanted to crash. It's part of a policeman's job to stop shit like disturbance [ as shitty as that is ] so don't feel so bad about just calling them up... Especially if this happens often like you say.
get a hoody a balaclava and a hockey stick and go over, knock on the door and either tell them to stfu and if they ever make any more noise there gettin fukin done in.
You may say violence is not the way, violence is the easiest way to solve small scale disputes.
Calling the cops is obviously the best solution. It'll very likely solve your problem since most people take cops pretty seriously, and it won't require you to stoop to their stupidity/immaturity in retaliation.
On August 24 2007 01:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: that's just the by far best solution.. much better than being one of those gay lamers trying to ruin the party, someone who is drunk doesn't care about the opinion of one of those gay lamers anyway so it makes no difference how entitled you are to being a gay lamer, it's completely fruitless. (actually generally it helps for a period ranging between 1 and 5 minutes. )
I don't see how a person trying to ask partiers to take the party inside at a time when most people are trying to sleep is a "gay lamer". Sure, parties are fun and it sucks when other neighbors get in the way of that fun, but the right to party is no higher up the priority list than the right to comfortably enjoy your own home. The fact that a partier may be too drunk to notice your complaints has no bearing on whether those complaints should be made either. It just justifies taking greater measures (i.e. calling the cops) to take care of the problem.
It's worth noting that it's the partiers who are imposing themselves upon their neighbors, not the other way around. They are the ones intruding upon their neighbors' property and their enjoyment of it, the complaining neighbor is just attempting to stop that intrusion. If a guy is throwing rocks at your house, are you a "gay lamer" for telling him to stop? Sure, there's a difference between rocks and noise, but is there really a clear line? What if the rocks aren't breaking anything but just hit the wall and keep waking you up when you're trying to sleep? Isn't that almost exactly the same as what those partiers were doing to Testie and his neighbors?
I'm as much a fan of a good house party as the next person, but I also realize that you can't ignore other people just to have your own fun. Much like you respect the host of a party by not destroying their place, you respect the people who live next door by not doing anything that causes them trouble. Both are doing something nice and unnecessary by allowing you to impose upon their hospitality, the least you can do is be considerate and respectful (particularly if what they're asking for doesn't stop your party).
I think telling them you will call the police and report a noise violation is the best thing to do. They will probably keep it down when you say that, yet you don't need to actually do it. If they disregard your warning, then make the call. Don't let the people telling you not to ruin the party get to you... at 4am they need to be more respectful of the neighborhood than you described.
On August 24 2007 05:20 inept. wrote: without losing your dignity, you can just hire your own gang of hicks, hippies, and short fat lesbians and have them battle it out
bad idea! zomg, they will realise what they have in common, and then they will become friends and double-party your ass ;O!!!
On August 23 2007 18:33 rpf wrote: Do the same shit to them during the day when they're trying to sleep after drinking and staying up all night. They have to sleep at some point, no?
When you're totally hammered you don't exactly wake up from a one man army named Testicles.
ooooooooooooooooh, its on now.
Call your neighbors, tell them to forget their vacations, that this is a life and death situation.
Tell them that they set the house on fire. should work.
On August 24 2007 04:20 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Calling the cops is obviously the best solution. It'll very likely solve your problem since most people take cops pretty seriously, and it won't require you to stoop to their stupidity/immaturity in retaliation.
On August 24 2007 01:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: that's just the by far best solution.. much better than being one of those gay lamers trying to ruin the party, someone who is drunk doesn't care about the opinion of one of those gay lamers anyway so it makes no difference how entitled you are to being a gay lamer, it's completely fruitless. (actually generally it helps for a period ranging between 1 and 5 minutes. )
I don't see how a person trying to ask partiers to take the party inside at a time when most people are trying to sleep is a "gay lamer". Sure, parties are fun and it sucks when other neighbors get in the way of that fun, but the right to party is no higher up the priority list than the right to comfortably enjoy your own home. The fact that a partier may be too drunk to notice your complaints has no bearing on whether those complaints should be made either. It just justifies taking greater measures (i.e. calling the cops) to take care of the problem.
It's worth noting that it's the partiers who are imposing themselves upon their neighbors, not the other way around. They are the ones intruding upon their neighbors' property and their enjoyment of it, the complaining neighbor is just attempting to stop that intrusion. If a guy is throwing rocks at your house, are you a "gay lamer" for telling him to stop? Sure, there's a difference between rocks and noise, but is there really a clear line? What if the rocks aren't breaking anything but just hit the wall and keep waking you up when you're trying to sleep? Isn't that almost exactly the same as what those partiers were doing to Testie and his neighbors?
I'm as much a fan of a good house party as the next person, but I also realize that you can't ignore other people just to have your own fun. Much like you respect the host of a party by not destroying their place, you respect the people who live next door by not doing anything that causes them trouble. Both are doing something nice and unnecessary by allowing you to impose upon their hospitality, the least you can do is be considerate and respectful (particularly if what they're asking for doesn't stop your party).
the analogy with throwing rocks is so far off man.. a party is held for your own amusement and entertainment, throwing rocks at your house would be done with the intention of pissing you off.. not to mention that telling partygoers to shut up and be quiet is only more likely to make them well, throw rocks at you.. im looking at this from a practical point of view, not a moral one though : telling them to shut up is not going to make them shut up, or if it does, they'll forget they were supposed to shut up shortly after. they're also going to consider you a gay lamer, regardless of whether you actually are one. you're only going to make their party less fun and your night less sleepy through going out and telling them to shut up, whereas if you simply get one of those things you put in your ears to make the noise goes around nobody is angry, nobody is branded a gay lamer and nobody gets his sleep ruined.
I've have parties that have gone on til 4 or 5 am plenty of times. But you don't go outside, that's just flat out dick. If your neighbors are decent enough to let you party and do whatever, the least you can do is keep it inside after 11-12. How anyone could possibly argue that is beyond me.
I have a shithead neighbor at my shorehouse who's called the cops on me for having FOUR people partying in the middle of the day. He gets zero respect because he either curses me out for nothing or calls the cops.
The other neighbors are all very nice. They know I party and don't care, so long as I'm not running around being a shitbag outside at 3 am. If they ever have a problem, they approach me the next day (or call me ) and tell me I'm getting to rowdy.
I'd say try that, but since these kids are dicks, your only option at this point seems to retaliate.
On August 24 2007 04:20 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Calling the cops is obviously the best solution. It'll very likely solve your problem since most people take cops pretty seriously, and it won't require you to stoop to their stupidity/immaturity in retaliation.
On August 24 2007 01:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: that's just the by far best solution.. much better than being one of those gay lamers trying to ruin the party, someone who is drunk doesn't care about the opinion of one of those gay lamers anyway so it makes no difference how entitled you are to being a gay lamer, it's completely fruitless. (actually generally it helps for a period ranging between 1 and 5 minutes. )
I don't see how a person trying to ask partiers to take the party inside at a time when most people are trying to sleep is a "gay lamer". Sure, parties are fun and it sucks when other neighbors get in the way of that fun, but the right to party is no higher up the priority list than the right to comfortably enjoy your own home. The fact that a partier may be too drunk to notice your complaints has no bearing on whether those complaints should be made either. It just justifies taking greater measures (i.e. calling the cops) to take care of the problem.
It's worth noting that it's the partiers who are imposing themselves upon their neighbors, not the other way around. They are the ones intruding upon their neighbors' property and their enjoyment of it, the complaining neighbor is just attempting to stop that intrusion. If a guy is throwing rocks at your house, are you a "gay lamer" for telling him to stop? Sure, there's a difference between rocks and noise, but is there really a clear line? What if the rocks aren't breaking anything but just hit the wall and keep waking you up when you're trying to sleep? Isn't that almost exactly the same as what those partiers were doing to Testie and his neighbors?
I'm as much a fan of a good house party as the next person, but I also realize that you can't ignore other people just to have your own fun. Much like you respect the host of a party by not destroying their place, you respect the people who live next door by not doing anything that causes them trouble. Both are doing something nice and unnecessary by allowing you to impose upon their hospitality, the least you can do is be considerate and respectful (particularly if what they're asking for doesn't stop your party).
the analogy with throwing rocks is so far off man.. a party is held for your own amusement and entertainment, throwing rocks at your house would be done with the intention of pissing you off.. not to mention that telling partygoers to shut up and be quiet is only more likely to make them well, throw rocks at you.. im looking at this from a practical point of view, not a moral one though : telling them to shut up is not going to make them shut up, or if it does, they'll forget they were supposed to shut up shortly after. they're also going to consider you a gay lamer, regardless of whether you actually are one. you're only going to make their party less fun and your night less sleepy through going out and telling them to shut up, whereas if you simply get one of those things you put in your ears to make the noise goes around nobody is angry, nobody is branded a gay lamer and nobody gets his sleep ruined.
wait wait wait. lets simplify this?
Why should I be forced to stay up all night when I have work early the next morning? How does forcing them to stop keeping my make me a lamer?
I should risk getting fired because they refuse to grow up?
Hire a watchman, in peru is some guy who watches over the neighborhood and if someone doesnt respect each other he pulls up a rubber stick and beats the shit out of them. seriously you should do that for at least 2 weeks , dunno whats the techincal term for it in Usa/Canada tho
On August 24 2007 06:28 TesisMech wrote: Hire a watchman, in peru is some guy who watches over the neighborhood and if someone doesnt respect each other he pulls up a rubber stick and beats the shit out of them. seriously you should do that for at least 2 weeks , dunno whats the techincal term for it in Usa/Canada tho
On August 24 2007 00:13 Liquid`Drone wrote: man it up girly let them party dont ruin the fun :-(
If it's just a party on one day I'd agree with you - sure thing. But if they really do it for weeks (as in the whole summer vacation that they spend there) you can't really ignore it if you have to work. Even if you don't...
Just call the cops. If these guys are as smart as you say they are, they are likely to mouth off to an officer and get themselves in real hot water. If your neighbors are as fed up as you are, band together and start calling the cops even when they are quiet. If you both are saying that you were hearing "loud music", who are the cops going to beleive? I know its a waste of the cops time, but its better than the cops having to come out because you went over and killed one of them
pfff, Call the cops!?!? - Everyone can do that! That is so uncreative and has no style, what so ever! I suggest that you go the pharmacy and buy some diarrhea drugs. If these guys has been up all night totally pissed, you can easily sneak into the house unnoticed and add some drugs into their food or what ever you can find in the house. Calling the cops = NO FUN Five guys fighting over a toilet, while ten others are shiting all over the floor = FUN gl hf
If they're being a pain in the ass all summer, fuck them. Have you ever had a job that you have to get up for really in the morning every day? It fucking sucks if you've had no sleep because some hippy loser layabouts want to have some fun.
It's ok if they want to have a party, but do it in a manner that is considerate to other people and not keeping the whole neighbourhood awake all night.
You shouldn't have to put in earblockers (which don't work great anyway), they should be more considerate of other people and shut the fuck up. If they want to party all night they go to a club or bar like normal people do.
hey im not really defending those people im saying that telling them to shut the fuck up is unlikely to work
calling the cops can work i guess but that really does seem very anal
best solution is avoiding the problem imo. just cause they're imposing on you and you're not imposing on them doesn't mean that imposing back on them is gonna solve anything better than allowing them to impose would.
I knew it wouldn't work. But I was tired of being woken up. And it had worked previously to get them inside and to stfu. Your earlier statements defended them, telling me to let them party and to man up.
Shut your mouf and mow the lawn. God, you're such a lazy bastard. WTF, Practice BW too while you're at it. Quit Dota. Brush your teeth. Say goodnight and go to bed.
On August 24 2007 09:14 Liquid`Drone wrote: hey im not really defending those people im saying that telling them to shut the fuck up is unlikely to work
calling the cops can work i guess but that really does seem very anal
best solution is avoiding the problem imo. just cause they're imposing on you and you're not imposing on them doesn't mean that imposing back on them is gonna solve anything better than allowing them to impose would.
I agree that telling them to shut up isn't likely to work. It's like telling little kids to go to bed when they're having a sleepover, they're only going to stay quiet until they think you're asleep and the coast is clear
I wouldn't call calling the cops "anal", it's actually the best way to solve the problem. It'll teach the kids that they have to take it seriously when people complain about them being too noisy, which will help them keep parties going in the long run by encouraging them to keep the party inside at 2-4am. It avoids direct confrontation with stupid, drunk people, although this is more true if you call the cops initially as opposed to after yelling at them
I don't think avoiding the problem is the best solution. If you give them an inch, they'll walk all over you. Let them party all night, as loud as they want, and they'll keep doing it. They may even possibly get encouraged by that free reign and just go further, having larger parties ("hey man, no complaints here!") or crazier parties, or actually start doing stuff that really causes damage (i.e. throwing bottles, rocks, etc.). It's basically positive reinforcement for destructive behavior. Immature people like to test their boundaries, and generally giving them space is taken as encouragement to go further.
I also think it's inaccurate to say that you're "imposing back" when you're telling them to stop causing a nuisance. Stopping or preventing someone from imposing no you is not imposing, it's standing your ground. If you're standing at a spot, and someone walks into you, are you "imposing back" by not backing off of it? If you're sitting in a library studying, and a group of noisy idiots comes over to sit at your table, are you "imposing back" by not leaving or asking them to quiet down? Much like being in a library, being up past midnight puts you in a situation where the expected norm is to be quiet and not disturb others. Anything outside of that is unreasonable and there's no way a person should consider themselves imposed upon if someone is trying to maintain the standard.
On August 24 2007 01:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: loool petey
also naz you wrote " buy some of those earpieces that block the sound"
that's just the by far best solution.. much better than being one of those gay lamers trying to ruin the party, someone who is drunk doesn't care about the opinion of one of those gay lamers anyway so it makes no difference how entitled you are to being a gay lamer, it's completely fruitless. (actually generally it helps for a period ranging between 1 and 5 minutes. )
You know, some of us "gay lamers" have actual lives that require us to get a normal night's sleep. Why the hell should we change how we sleep to accomodate a bunch of assholes who don't give a flying fuck about us?
Also I like how you call us "gay lamers" but don't call the party guys anything even though it's pretty obvious who is being a disrespectful piece of shit in that situation.
Fact is, no one needs to have a party in the middle of the night, in the middle of an adult neighbourhood. No one has a shitty and wasteful day at work because they didn't have a party the night before. No one has to work extra hard in school because they didn't have a party. No one feels like shit for a day because they didn't have a party. But normal people with normal lives need a decent amount of sleep or else it fucks with their day.
People like you make me pissed through the roof. Fuck you. Take your parties someplace where you aren't pissing all over other people's (the "gay lamers", as you like to call them) lives.
I.e. there was broken glass on the lawn earlier from a bottle that was thrown against our porch. Anyway, this thread won't be updated until I begin the war (if necessary) when I get back from WCG. If anything noteworthy or interesting happens, I'll update and tell of my glorious victory or bitter defeat. I leave at 9:30 am tomorrow to go play and my games start at 5:30 pm.
Get a big garbage can, and go around looking for garbage. Stuff the can with the nastiest things you can find or think of. Like shit, leftover foods and condiments, mud, oil, etc.. Once the can is filled to the top, fill the leftover space with water, preferably dirty muddy shitty water. Go over to their house and lean the garbage can on the front door. Ring the doorbell and run.
On August 24 2007 10:08 MYM.Testie wrote: I.e. there was broken glass on the lawn earlier from a bottle that was thrown against our porch. Anyway, this thread won't be updated until I begin the war (if necessary) when I get back from WCG. If anything noteworthy or interesting happens, I'll update and tell of my glorious victory or bitter defeat. I leave at 9:30 am tomorrow to go play and my games start at 5:30 pm.
Well if you're leaving at 9:30 you might as well get up at 7:00 and do a bit of mowing and handiwork before you go.
Oh man. So many memories. I remember fighting with the neighbors who partied into the night. My favorite and, dare I say it, most creative retaliation was plugging my computer into my giant fender amp, putting it face first on the floor(they were beneath me) and CRANKING it. Now here's the creative part. I quickly ran into some music mixing program and made the most dissonant, terrible, creepy sounding 6-second loop. If you wanna hear the loop I made, here's the link.
On August 24 2007 12:53 Nintu wrote: Oh man. So many memories. I remember fighting with the neighbors who partied into the night. My favorite and, dare I say it, most creative retaliation was plugging my computer into my giant fender amp, putting it face first on the floor(they were beneath me) and CRANKING it. Now here\'s the creative part. I quickly ran into some music mixing program and made the most dissonant, terrible, creepy sounding 6-second loop. If you wanna hear the loop I made, here\'s the link.
On August 24 2007 12:56 ieatkids5 wrote: That's a pretty cool piece of music, Nintu. It would be a kickass song if you made it into an entire full length song.
Don't think I didn't consider it. I had a lot of time on my hands and a lot of anger in me.
people next door in college used to party on monday nights till 5am when i had class tuesday morning at 10. so one morning after they were loud i got up at 8 to go to the gym. his room was right next to the trash can so i leaned it up against the door and filled some of their beercans with water and leaned them against the door. i put on DO THE HUSTLE and turned my speakers to the max, then left. came back at 9:30 and the trashcan was kicked over down the hall. mission accomplished
On August 24 2007 12:53 Nintu wrote: Oh man. So many memories. I remember fighting with the neighbors who partied into the night. My favorite and, dare I say it, most creative retaliation was plugging my computer into my giant fender amp, putting it face first on the floor(they were beneath me) and CRANKING it. Now here's the creative part. I quickly ran into some music mixing program and made the most dissonant, terrible, creepy sounding 6-second loop. If you wanna hear the loop I made, here's the link.
On August 24 2007 10:08 MYM.Testie wrote: I.e. there was broken glass on the lawn earlier from a bottle that was thrown against our porch. Anyway, this thread won't be updated until I begin the war (if necessary) when I get back from WCG. If anything noteworthy or interesting happens, I'll update and tell of my glorious victory or bitter defeat. I leave at 9:30 am tomorrow to go play and my games start at 5:30 pm.
recruit ppl from WCG to fight these guys with you...of course the best you'll get is a 15 yr old, a few skinny guys...altho prodigy looks like he works out...other than that i think you guys have a pretty good chance =D
On August 24 2007 09:24 MYM.Testie wrote: I knew it wouldn't work. But I was tired of being woken up. And it had worked previously to get them inside and to stfu. Your earlier statements defended them, telling me to let them party and to man up.
naw it wasnt supposed to be defending them, it was supposed to attack you
Throw excrement at them while speaking in tongues. They'll be scared enough of that crazy mop headed mother fucker next door that they'll never party at that house again.
I cant understand the people who are responding with "man up" and "party with them lol".
Testie clearly said that he needed to get up the next morning and also didn like the folks in the other house. He wants to rest and sleep, these fuckers are preventing him. Why THE FUCK should he care about them, he wants to sleep, they dont let him, he calls the police to sort them out and he sleeps nicely after that. Thats what i'd do without thinking for even 1 minute.
PS. To testie: you need to understand that the police is meant to serve the citizens so if someone is bothering you in any way, its almost your duty to call the police to punish the fuckers. That way you help yourself _and_ you prevent them from doing it in future. Being officially warned by the police is 100X stronger than you yelling STFU!
Plan A: Call the police B: Make louder and stronger music back to annoy them C: Sleep it through D: Bring a bunch of WCG players and do the mortal combat fight
On August 25 2007 01:56 nOob wrote: Yeah but yelling STFU to 5 guys makes your ego and your balls grow, and calling the cops makes you feel like a pussy >_<
rofl
Challenge them to a starcraft match and beat them in 5 mins, laugh and say gg.
P.S. Being officially warned by the police is 100X stronger than you yelling STFU!
On August 24 2007 10:20 ieatkids5 wrote: Get a big garbage can, and go around looking for garbage. Stuff the can with the nastiest things you can find or think of. Like shit, leftover foods and condiments, mud, oil, etc.. Once the can is filled to the top, fill the leftover space with water, preferably dirty muddy shitty water. Go over to their house and lean the garbage can on the front door. Ring the doorbell and run.
better yet, put it all in a garbage bag, nail the garbage can to the front step or w/e then dump the contents of the bag in the can. that way they cant move it.
Whats sad about this thread is that this guy is trying to complain that his neighbors are jerks while making a total jerk out of himself instead. If you cant talk with you neighbors you deserve no sleep :p
"Getting back" at somebody is about as childish as you can be and honestly all you're accomplishing is bringing yourself down to their level.
This world isn't about trying to wear your balls on the outside of your pants and make an ass of yourself. It's to handle things in the easiest, most straight forward, civil way. Talking about pulling pranks or fighting them on noise is just going to cause more problems in the long run. If you do something, they'll know it was you and they'll come back at you even worse. You've in effect just made your life even more miserable.
If I was in that situation I'd walk over there and explain my situation. Go calmly ask if they could move things inside. Don't just yell from your porch, put on your shoes and walk over there. If they don't, call the police the second time. You've warned them already. If they still don't listen to you then nothing you do is going to change that - have the police take care of it.
Whenever the cops are called they always warn you a second time. They'll warn you that there has been a complaint registered and to keep it down and then they'll stay in the area and loop around for the next little bit. That should be enough to get them quieted down.
In the past when I've hosted parties that I've known would probably get out of control I've gone to each of my neighbors places and told them what was going on. A simple "hey I'm having some people over this evening - if we are too loud come let me know and I'll take care of the situation." Doing that now puts you in a where you look like a reasonable guy who still wants to have fun. Hell, in most cases I've invited my neighbors over if they were so inclined.
Either way, retaliating against somebody is probably the least mature thing you can do. Since you are posing yourself as the more mature, working man - try acting like one. Doing something stupid or childish as a way to get back at them for being loud is about the furthest thing you can do from the correct response.
On August 24 2007 01:59 Liquid`Drone wrote: loool petey
also naz you wrote " buy some of those earpieces that block the sound"
that's just the by far best solution.. much better than being one of those gay lamers trying to ruin the party, someone who is drunk doesn't care about the opinion of one of those gay lamers anyway so it makes no difference how entitled you are to being a gay lamer, it's completely fruitless. (actually generally it helps for a period ranging between 1 and 5 minutes. )
You know, some of us "gay lamers" have actual lives that require us to get a normal night's sleep. Why the hell should we change how we sleep to accomodate a bunch of assholes who don't give a flying fuck about us?
Also I like how you call us "gay lamers" but don't call the party guys anything even though it's pretty obvious who is being a disrespectful piece of shit in that situation.
Fact is, no one needs to have a party in the middle of the night, in the middle of an adult neighbourhood. No one has a shitty and wasteful day at work because they didn't have a party the night before. No one has to work extra hard in school because they didn't have a party. No one feels like shit for a day because they didn't have a party. But normal people with normal lives need a decent amount of sleep or else it fucks with their day.
People like you make me pissed through the roof. Fuck you. Take your parties someplace where you aren't pissing all over other people's (the "gay lamers", as you like to call them) lives.
aren't you being a little bit harsh?
is losing a little sleep really the end of the fucking world? Allowing some kids to have an enjoyable night without your interference would be some nice consideration. Or is it a prerequisite that the only time you're considerate to others is when they are considerate to you first?
When i think of man up, i think of somoene who can be better than those around him. Not someone so petty that they're never willing to give an inch unless they think it will be returned.
I am not much of a partier myself, i have the occaisonal one probably 2-4 times a year? For the most part i tell my guests to keep quiet as much as they can, as i do think it important to respect my neighbours. But some of my neighbours have more parties than me, and definately aren't so concerned with the noise level. When they wake me up, i smile to myself, hope they're having a good time, and try to get back to sleep.
Honestly, it's not the end of the world if i get 4 hours of sleep instead of 8. It's just sleep.
edit - I'm not saying that you should let people walk all over you and disrupt your life. But if it's not a consistant occurence, how can someone be so uptight to begrudge others a night of unrestrained fun for a few fucking hours of sleep?
Those nights, at least for me, are few and far between. My one neighbour did mention to me one time (the next day) that we were sure loud. His name is Lionel and he's about 65-70 years old, and has lived in his apartment (which is next to mine) for over 30 years. I apologized profusely as i had had no idea that we were being that loud, to which he responded, "No! Don't apologize sunny boy. It was just that those girls were screaming all night long. I sure hope you had a great time".
To be the recipient of this man's patience, tolerance, and encouragement was truly an awesome experience. It made me proud to know that in my past i have always been much the same as him - that a little from me (a few hours sleep) can mean alot for someone else (a whole night of unconstricted fucking awesome badassness.)
uh mora if some ugly bitch is outside singing loudly out of tune i am going to walk outside and tell her to eat a horse cock. I agree in terms of letting kids be kids from time to time. But when they go about being total assholes I wont allow them to get to the degree described without a verbal lashing.
Now if she was hot I'd probably walk out with a boner and a bottle of somethng spicy and proceed to fill her with babies and leave the tab
On August 25 2007 12:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote: uh mora if some ugly bitch is outside singing loudly out of tune i am going to walk outside and tell her to eat a horse cock. I agree in terms of letting kids be kids from time to time. But when they go about being total assholes I wont allow them to get to the degree described without a verbal lashing.
Now if she was hot I'd probably walk out with a boner and a bottle of somethng spicy and proceed to fill her with babies and leave the tab
Yeah, i wasn't referring to Testie's particular situation, but more the complete intolerance Bill has for any situation. Sometimes people are much too excessive, and action needs to be taken. I don't know how out of tune she was, but it could definately be warranted.
On August 25 2007 12:35 pokeyAA wrote: Some people cant function worth shit with 4 hours of sleep, myself included.
Seirously.
Man up.
edit - i was too harsh. took out the uncalled for 'you fucking faggot' remark.
On August 25 2007 12:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote: uh mora if some ugly bitch is outside singing loudly out of tune i am going to walk outside and tell her to eat a horse cock. I agree in terms of letting kids be kids from time to time. But when they go about being total assholes I wont allow them to get to the degree described without a verbal lashing.
Now if she was hot I'd probably walk out with a boner and a bottle of somethng spicy and proceed to fill her with babies and leave the tab
Sounds like these people aren't worth the effort of revenge. There is really no point going outside on your balcony and yelling at them multiple times like a nagging mother. Just call the police and go back to sleep wtf. Why is this such a big deal?
Also I'm sure you have had fun in a lot of retarded ways that others could not understand in the past. Who cares if they suck at singing or can't play the guitar, if they are having fun that's what matters. Some of my funnest moments in life have been listening to horrible singers (lol elky). And what's with this "drink responsibly" nonsense? lol I think you need to revisit us in Korea. As long as you aren't throwing up everywhere (a little is probably healthy) and can get to a taxi under your own power, you are drinking responsibly enough.
I'd like to think that most of the posters are hypocrites anyways. I mean, it's easy to be pissed off while sober, but I bet more than half of you guys have been shitfaced and told to shut the fuck up by pissed off neigbours.
Which is why I can't really deffend neither side here ;o
Anyhow, you won't be able to tell them to shut up, they won't listen. Buy a couple of earplugs, or be a real bitch and call the cops if you want to. Getting back at them might give you some satisfaction but it wont stop them :p
walk up to their door with a megaphone and start beating on the door till they open then blast the megaphone in their face with some obscene word or phrase then walk away and repeat like every 30 min.
On August 26 2007 00:14 DeadVessel wrote: walk up to their door with a megaphone and start beating on the door till they open then blast the megaphone in their face with some obscene word or phrase then walk away and repeat like every 30 min.
oh ya i'm sure they'll never bother testie again after that and everyone will live happily ever after...
seriously 75% of the people in this thread are so bad at diplomacy, you should ask Bush for a spot in his cabinet
On August 26 2007 00:14 DeadVessel wrote: walk up to their door with a megaphone and start beating on the door till they open then blast the megaphone in their face with some obscene word or phrase then walk away and repeat like every 30 min.
oh ya i'm sure they'll never bother testie again after that and everyone will live happily ever after...
seriously 75% of the people in this thread are so bad at diplomacy, you should ask Bush for a spot in his cabinet
On August 25 2007 12:29 Mora wrote:aren't you being a little bit harsh?
is losing a little sleep really the end of the fucking world? Allowing some kids to have an enjoyable night without your interference would be some nice consideration. Or is it a prerequisite that the only time you're considerate to others is when they are considerate to you first?
When i think of man up, i think of somoene who can be better than those around him. Not someone so petty that they're never willing to give an inch unless they think it will be returned.
I am not much of a partier myself, i have the occaisonal one probably 2-4 times a year? For the most part i tell my guests to keep quiet as much as they can, as i do think it important to respect my neighbours. But some of my neighbours have more parties than me, and definately aren't so concerned with the noise level. When they wake me up, i smile to myself, hope they're having a good time, and try to get back to sleep.
Honestly, it's not the end of the world if i get 4 hours of sleep instead of 8. It's just sleep.
edit - I'm not saying that you should let people walk all over you and disrupt your life. But if it's not a consistant occurence, how can someone be so uptight to begrudge others a night of unrestrained fun for a few fucking hours of sleep?
Those nights, at least for me, are few and far between. My one neighbour did mention to me one time (the next day) that we were sure loud. His name is Lionel and he's about 65-70 years old, and has lived in his apartment (which is next to mine) for over 30 years. I apologized profusely as i had had no idea that we were being that loud, to which he responded, "No! Don't apologize sunny boy. It was just that those girls were screaming all night long. I sure hope you had a great time".
To be the recipient of this man's patience, tolerance, and encouragement was truly an awesome experience. It made me proud to know that in my past i have always been much the same as him - that a little from me (a few hours sleep) can mean alot for someone else (a whole night of unconstricted fucking awesome badassness.)
While I agree he was being a bit harsh, I agree with the general premise that partiers should be the ones trying to be considerate, not the other way around. Again, it's a matter of who is imposing upon who. If your fun is bothering other people, then you should expect that they'll do something to stop your fun. I don't understand where people are coming from when they try to make it seem like the right to party is somehow of greater importance to the right to peace and quiet. If we're supposed to allow kids to be kids, then we should also allow adults to be adults. They generally do stupid shit and behave immaturely, adults generally behave more responsibly and will make efforts to curb the stupidity that kids do if it becomes a problem.
There are occasions where neighbors are too sensitive, but there are many where the partiers are being insensitive. Since this all started with Testie's story, most people are referring to his particular circumstances, i.e. not a one-night incident, immature and rude partiers, refusing the bring the party inside, a genuine need by the neighbors for sleep because of work. In a situation like this, it seems clear to me that the partiers are just disregarding and disrespecting their neighbors by ignoring the fact that their party is disturbing others who live nearby.
As to the whole "it's just sleep" argument, that's just bullshit. Just because sleep may be unimportant to you, doesn't mean it's unimportant to others. I know of many people who work long, hard hours and really value and need a good night's sleep. I've had to work late into the evening quite often recently, and I can assure you that getting even a few hours of additional sleep is very important to me in those situations. Just because a neighbor happens to be okay with your depriving them of sleep (particularly an old guy who likely doesn't have a busy work schedule), it doesn't mean that every other neighbor should as well.
You can argue respective opinions on how much you believe a person should value hours of sleep all you want, but at the end of the day it's how important the peace and quiet is to the people you're depriving of sleep that matters. You don't walk around in someone's house with your shoes on if they don't, you don't smoke in someone's house if they don't, you don't bash a religion if that household practices it devoutly, etc. The person imposing does not set the standard, it's the person who is being imposed upon. You have no right to tell people what they should and shouldn't tolerate as long as they're not being ridiculous (i.e. complaining about a party in the middle of the day or afternoon).
We're talking about people's homes, not some store or park, and people should be able to be comfortable and happy in their home without having their neighbors disturbing them with obnoxious behavior. If anyone sits back and bothers to consider other people's perspectives, I just don't see how they could possibly argue that Testie should not have done something (not necessarily what he did, i.e. shouting at them) to stop those partiers next door.
P.S. This "man up" bullshit is making me tired. Partiers can "man up" when the cops come a-callin'. If that's one of your better arguments, you need to "smart up".
On August 25 2007 12:35 pokeyAA wrote: Some people cant function worth shit with 4 hours of sleep, myself included.
Seirously.
Man up.
edit - i was too harsh. took out the uncalled for 'you fucking faggot' remark.
You must have an easy life, I for one need a lot of sleep and or I'm a total mess the next day. If I don't get my 8 hours of sleep I can't even stay awake at school the next day. Manning up has nothing to do with it. Some people just function well with a small amount of sleep and some don't. If you're gonna party just go out to a club or something.
buhahaha, what the fuck is that? i just sleep. when i'm tired i sleep regardless of the noise around me. i'm not taking sides but to me it seems that those fuckers that try to stop the noise are just lamers with to much self esteem > , they act like they earned it so they must enjoy it. you work for yourself not for me . it wont kill you to plug your ears once in a while. also: a decent party people person will apologise for the noise but the bitcher will always remain self righteous.
On August 26 2007 06:54 xM(Z wrote: buhahaha, what the fuck is that? i just sleep. when i'm tired i sleep regardless of the noise around me. i'm not taking sides but to me it seems that those fuckers that try to stop the noise are just lamers with to much self esteem , they act like they earned it so they must enjoy it. you work for yourself not for me . it wont kill you to plug your ears once in a while. also: a decent party people person will apologise for the noise but the bitcher will always remain self righteous.
You're an idiot.
1. How is that not taking sides? "Fuckers"? "Lamers"? Yeah, that's real neutral language. The only description I see in your post referencing party people is "decent". You're obviously not taking sides on this one.
2. If you are able to own your own house, then, yes, you've earned, and deserve, the right to be able to sleep without being woken up in the middle of the night.
3. "you work for yourself not for me" What does this even mean? A person who works hard is indeed doing so for themselves, and, no, it's not for you. How is this even remotely relevant to this discussion? A person not making money for your benefit doesn't deserve your respect and consideration? They're not asking for you to do something for them, they're asking you to not do something to them (invade the enjoyment of their home).
4. It won't kill people to plug their ears, it also wouldn't kill partiers to have fun in a way that doesn't bother their neighbors.
5. "a decent party people person will apologise for the noise but the bitcher will always remain self righteous" True. However, (1) "decent party people" wouldn't bother their neighbors in the first place, and (2) people who complain when others wake them up in the middle of the night and call the cops to make them stop when they don't do so after being asked aren't bitching, they're doing what it takes to get what they're entitled to. That's quite an assumption there that partiers are decent while the people they're bothering are "bitchers". Yeah, you're really not taking sides on this one.
These arguments in favor of partiers being entitled to waking their neighbors in the middle of the night and condemning people who are just trying to get some sleep when they're supposed to be able to just keep getting better and better.
ok, so i deserved that but still: we live in a society it supposed to be quid pro quo. you earned your house i earned mine. if i decide to throw a party you should at least meet me half ways (restriction on certain hours, one time you plug your ears other time i keep it quiet..and so on). you are entitled to your silence as i am entitled to my noise. i admit that sometimes i wrong you by making noise but why can't you admit the same for when you tell me to "HEY!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP"?. (how testie so eloquently put it).
On August 26 2007 08:08 xM(Z wrote: you are entitled to your silence as i am entitled to my noise.
What the fuck? My silence doesn't affect you whatsoever, and doesn't prevent you from doing anything. Your noise on the other hand DOES affect me, preventing me from doing anything that requires a reasonably low level of noise (sleep?).
You are NOT entitled to your noise, whereas I am by LAW entitled to my silence.
i admit that sometimes i wrong you by making noise but why can't you admit the same for when you tell me to "HEY!!! SHUT THE FUCK UP"?. (how testie so eloquently put it).
So you admit that you're "sometimes" (what?) wrong by making a lot of noise at ungodly hours, but for me to point this out and tell you to shut the fuck up is equally bad? You - and too many others in this thread - have some seriously fucked up logic.
What the fuck? My silence doesn't affect you whatsoever, and doesn't prevent you from doing anything.
it does actually. i can't make my noise. i plead the fifth. i must have the liberty to make noise.
This is stupid. MY silence does not prevent YOU from making noise. YOUR noise does prevent ME from having silence. I don't know what the hell you think you're arguing, but I suspect even you know that you don't actually have a case.
On August 26 2007 09:04 xM(Z wrote: he imposes silence
Stupidest thing I've ever heard, he isn't imposing silence. He is imposing a decent volume. I hate fuckers who have retarded ass parties in the middle of the night and blast their fucking subwoofers nonstop. You don't mind it for the first five minutes but after a while you want to jab a fork in someone's eye. I don't understand the point of excessively loud music, anyway, once every while, fine. If you're going to do it regularly sound proof your house or get fucking headphones.
if i don't have a case, you don't have a case: your silence does not prevent me from making noise. my noise does not prevent you from being silent. your argument fails because "my silence" does not equal "me having silence". i have no problem with the first but the second obligates me to act in a certain way when i'm around you.
p.s. people just chill, i'm not your scapegoat. i don't care what you do with your hippies, i'm just telling you that you are half wrong.
On August 26 2007 09:25 xM(Z wrote: if i don't have a case, you don't have a case: your silence does not prevent me from making noise. my noise does not prevent you from being silent. your argument fails because "my silence" does not equal "me having silence". i have no problem with the first but the second obligates me to act in a certain way when i'm around you.
p.s. people just chill, i'm not your scapegoat. i don't care what you do with your hippies, i'm just telling you that you are half wrong.
Silence can be broken, noise can only be stopped. The point is you can still party and keep it at a decent noise level. He's not saying don't say a peep or I'll cut out your tongue. They should be considerate and quiet enough so people can sleep at 4am while still having their fun.
i know and i agree with your opinion in this case but the things got generalised so i replied in a similar manner. i was not referring to the case in question but to a more general ideea.
On August 26 2007 09:25 xM(Z wrote: i have no problem with the first but the second obligates me to act in a certain way when i'm around you.
Jesus Christ, really? Sorta like not smoking at a gas station, not drinking in the mall and not getting naked in public? These "lame fuckers" trying to tell you what you can and can't do AGAIN?!
p.s. people just chill, i'm not your scapegoat. i don't care what you do with your hippies, i'm just telling you that you are half wrong.
Oh fuck off. We don't care how clever you think you are.
I only skimmed the post, but since Testie kept claiming he had to work the following day, I assume this inciddent occurred on a sunday-thursday (as I otherwise consider whatever party going on to be on the "accepted" list of any 20-30yrold...
The kind of revenge that you seem to have in mind is typical "danish" indirect complaint and in my opinion just wrong. I envy people that are capable of stating it directly if they have an issue. All indirect behaviour will leave you with a feeling of dissatisfaction and doubt of whether your true intention shined through. Kind of like hacking in a game you're good at in order to show people its a waste of time (I hope you can relate).
If you honestly want to get even with them file some kind of complaint on the event that took place that evening. Thats what the local police is there for. Sure they can deny everything, but it will still make a much more obvious point as you've had a relatively long problemfree relationship with your neighboors.
Why don't we just close this thread(if it's okay for Testie of course)? This starts to get like... a debate or something. It's going nowhere. Flaming leads nowhere if you think so(it looks like flaming to me, sorry if i'm wrong).
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) would be nice. wait for them to sleep and then start the "CHOGULING, CHOGULIIIIIIIIIIIING, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, RIBOOOOOOR, OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO , AAAAAAAAAAA"
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, they act like they earned it so they must enjoy it. you work for yourself not for me 
