On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
how does an election take place with a dead candidate? no offense to americans here but america is a fucking joke at the moment.
It happens a lot more than you'd think, but the covid part was a cherry on top. I've mentioned before Dennis Hof who was a Republican that was literally a dead pimp (unclear if Trump thought this was who Lil Pump is) and won a seat in the Nevada state assembly in 2018.
On November 04 2020 19:31 Gorsameth wrote: I said it 4 years ago when I woke up to a Trump win, I'll say it now waking up to not a Biden landslide.
Americans are worse then the rest of the world thought.
The fact that after 4 years of Trump bullshit and this year his Covid response the race still comes down to a nail biter is a scathing criticism of the state of American politics and the beliefs of the American people compared to the rest of the western world.
For shame America, for shame.
(obviously not all Americans are bad, and the popular vote goes to Biden but still, WTF man).
God knows I am not a trump supporter but why are Europeans all high nose on Trump regarding covid? There are many Europeans countries with worse numbers than the US?
And we're calling them out on it. Sweden is currently an absolute laughing stock
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
how does an election take place with a dead candidate? no offense to americans here but america is a fucking joke at the moment.
It happens a lot more than you'd think, but the covid part was a cherry on top. I've mentioned before Dennis Hof who was a Republican that was literally a dead pimp (unclear if Trump thought this was who Lil Pump is) and won a seat in the Nevada state assembly in 2018.
I can 100% say that would not be acceptable in my country, nor my understanding and perception what democracy is.
Call me as smug european as you want, but that is just the failings of a failed democracy.
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
On November 04 2020 19:31 Gorsameth wrote: I said it 4 years ago when I woke up to a Trump win, I'll say it now waking up to not a Biden landslide.
Americans are worse then the rest of the world thought.
The fact that after 4 years of Trump bullshit and this year his Covid response the race still comes down to a nail biter is a scathing criticism of the state of American politics and the beliefs of the American people compared to the rest of the western world.
For shame America, for shame.
(obviously not all Americans are bad, and the popular vote goes to Biden but still, WTF man).
Or the Americans are just tired of corrupt useless politicians... Like the ones we have in EU. The fact that Trump is that close to winning after 4 years of left propaganda in the media, means that the the Americans have really strong feel of democracy and freedom.
Are you implying Trump is not an utterly corrupt and useless politician? I'm sorry that you have been in a coma for the last 4 years and have only just woken up, congratulations on that, but Trump has 4 years of strait corruption after corruption case and has been spending most of his time golfing. He is the utter definition of Corrupt and useless.
And a strong feeling of Democracy and Freedom? Trump literally said not long ago that the vote counting should stop and that he should be declared the winner with an unfinished count.
That isn't Democracy, that is a strait up Dictatorship.
What am I even reading... Trump said, that votes should stop being accepted, not counted... Also he said "as far as I'm concerned I won". That is really far from declaring a win. Just to name a few things that Trump did in his term - removed NAFTA and signed USMCA, massive tax cuts to the middle class, hugely improved the political climate in the middle east. The economy was doing great before COVID, last quarter GDP rebounded from covid with +33.1%. So yeah... if this was done while he was mostly golfing... pretty good acheivement.
I am pretty sure the words were that they "should stop the counting" or something along those lines. Not that they should stop accepting other votes but that they should stop counting (the votes already in but not counted yet)
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
how does an election take place with a dead candidate? no offense to americans here but america is a fucking joke at the moment.
It happens a lot more than you'd think, but the covid part was a cherry on top. I've mentioned before Dennis Hof who was a Republican that was literally a dead pimp (unclear if Trump thought this was who Lil Pump is) and won a seat in the Nevada state assembly in 2018.
I can 100% say that would not be acceptable in my country, nor my understanding and perception what democracy is.
Call me as smug european as you want, but that is just the failings of a failed democracy.
I'm not one of the people you have to convince US democracy is a bad joke made worse when you realize all the killing we do in the name of spreading it.
On November 04 2020 19:31 Gorsameth wrote: I said it 4 years ago when I woke up to a Trump win, I'll say it now waking up to not a Biden landslide.
Americans are worse then the rest of the world thought.
The fact that after 4 years of Trump bullshit and this year his Covid response the race still comes down to a nail biter is a scathing criticism of the state of American politics and the beliefs of the American people compared to the rest of the western world.
For shame America, for shame.
(obviously not all Americans are bad, and the popular vote goes to Biden but still, WTF man).
Or the Americans are just tired of corrupt useless politicians... Like the ones we have in EU. The fact that Trump is that close to winning after 4 years of left propaganda in the media, means that the the Americans have really strong feel of democracy and freedom.
Are you implying Trump is not an utterly corrupt and useless politician? I'm sorry that you have been in a coma for the last 4 years and have only just woken up, congratulations on that, but Trump has 4 years of strait corruption after corruption case and has been spending most of his time golfing. He is the utter definition of Corrupt and useless.
And a strong feeling of Democracy and Freedom? Trump literally said not long ago that the vote counting should stop and that he should be declared the winner with an unfinished count.
That isn't Democracy, that is a strait up Dictatorship.
What am I even reading... Trump said, that votes should stop being accepted, not counted... Also he said "as far as I'm concerned I won". That is really far from declaring a win. Just to name a few things that Trump did in his term - removed NAFTA and signed USMCA, massive tax cuts to the middle class, hugely improved the political climate in the middle east. The economy was doing great before COVID, last quarter GDP rebounded from covid with +33.1%. So yeah... if this was done while he was mostly golfing... pretty good acheivement.
I am pretty sure the words were that they "should stop the counting" or something along those lines. Not that they should stop accepting other votes but that they should stop counting (the votes already in but not counted yet)
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
how does an election take place with a dead candidate? no offense to americans here but america is a fucking joke at the moment.
It happens a lot more than you'd think, but the covid part was a cherry on top. I've mentioned before Dennis Hof who was a Republican that was literally a dead pimp (unclear if Trump thought this was who Lil Pump is) and won a seat in the Nevada state assembly in 2018.
I can 100% say that would not be acceptable in my country, nor my understanding and perception what democracy is.
Call me as smug european as you want, but that is just the failings of a failed democracy.
I'm not one of the people you have to convince US democracy is a bad joke made worse when you realize all the killing we do in the name of spreading it.
Do you think people would be talking about broken democracy if Biden had won convincingly? I don't. I think people (particularly BBC journalists, which is what i've been watching half the night) are measuring how broken the US is by how well Trump is doing, which is a bad measure imo.
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
how does an election take place with a dead candidate? no offense to americans here but america is a fucking joke at the moment.
It happens a lot more than you'd think, but the covid part was a cherry on top. I've mentioned before Dennis Hof who was a Republican that was literally a dead pimp (unclear if Trump thought this was who Lil Pump is) and won a seat in the Nevada state assembly in 2018.
I can 100% say that would not be acceptable in my country, nor my understanding and perception what democracy is.
Call me as smug european as you want, but that is just the failings of a failed democracy.
I'm not one of the people you have to convince US democracy is a bad joke made worse when you realize all the killing we do in the name of spreading it.
On November 04 2020 19:31 Gorsameth wrote: I said it 4 years ago when I woke up to a Trump win, I'll say it now waking up to not a Biden landslide.
Americans are worse then the rest of the world thought.
The fact that after 4 years of Trump bullshit and this year his Covid response the race still comes down to a nail biter is a scathing criticism of the state of American politics and the beliefs of the American people compared to the rest of the western world.
For shame America, for shame.
(obviously not all Americans are bad, and the popular vote goes to Biden but still, WTF man).
Or the Americans are just tired of corrupt useless politicians... Like the ones we have in EU. The fact that Trump is that close to winning after 4 years of left propaganda in the media, means that the the Americans have really strong feel of democracy and freedom.
Are you implying Trump is not an utterly corrupt and useless politician? I'm sorry that you have been in a coma for the last 4 years and have only just woken up, congratulations on that, but Trump has 4 years of strait corruption after corruption case and has been spending most of his time golfing. He is the utter definition of Corrupt and useless.
And a strong feeling of Democracy and Freedom? Trump literally said not long ago that the vote counting should stop and that he should be declared the winner with an unfinished count.
That isn't Democracy, that is a strait up Dictatorship.
What am I even reading... Trump said, that votes should stop being accepted, not counted... Also he said "as far as I'm concerned I won". That is really far from declaring a win. Just to name a few things that Trump did in his term - removed NAFTA and signed USMCA, massive tax cuts to the middle class, hugely improved the political climate in the middle east. The economy was doing great before COVID, last quarter GDP rebounded from covid with +33.1%. So yeah... if this was done while he was mostly golfing... pretty good acheivement.
I am pretty sure the words were that they "should stop the counting" or something along those lines. Not that they should stop accepting other votes but that they should stop counting (the votes already in but not counted yet)
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
how does an election take place with a dead candidate? no offense to americans here but america is a fucking joke at the moment.
It happens a lot more than you'd think, but the covid part was a cherry on top. I've mentioned before Dennis Hof who was a Republican that was literally a dead pimp (unclear if Trump thought this was who Lil Pump is) and won a seat in the Nevada state assembly in 2018.
I can 100% say that would not be acceptable in my country, nor my understanding and perception what democracy is.
Call me as smug european as you want, but that is just the failings of a failed democracy.
I'm not one of the people you have to convince US democracy is a bad joke made worse when you realize all the killing we do in the name of spreading it.
Do you think people would be talking about broken democracy if Biden had won convincingly? I don't. I think people (particularly BBC journalists, which is what i've been watching half the night) are measuring how broken the US is by how well Trump is doing, which is a bad measure imo.
That's so true... Pretty sure there had been many chances in the last few decades to change the voting system and no one did it. It's only broken if it doesnt favour you
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
how does an election take place with a dead candidate? no offense to americans here but america is a fucking joke at the moment.
It happens a lot more than you'd think, but the covid part was a cherry on top. I've mentioned before Dennis Hof who was a Republican that was literally a dead pimp (unclear if Trump thought this was who Lil Pump is) and won a seat in the Nevada state assembly in 2018.
I can 100% say that would not be acceptable in my country, nor my understanding and perception what democracy is.
Call me as smug european as you want, but that is just the failings of a failed democracy.
I'm not one of the people you have to convince US democracy is a bad joke made worse when you realize all the killing we do in the name of spreading it.
Do you think people would be talking about broken democracy if Biden had won convincingly? I don't. I think people (particularly BBC journalists, which is what i've been watching half the night) are measuring how broken the US is by how well Trump is doing, which is a bad measure imo.
I mean, if the US was a successful democracy, Biden would have crushed Trump tonight. Electoral college, voter suppression, all those favour Trump. Not talking about gerrymandering when it comes to other races.
On November 04 2020 19:43 GreenHorizons wrote: For people perplexed by Trump's performance despite covid I submit North Dakota's 8th District state legislature:
A Republican won his race despite dying from covid a month ago.
Because these lists are drawn up months before the election and are not changed after because of time to print and distrubute ect?
He died Oct 5th. So not enough time to change the ballots.
Would that be acceptable in your country?
Yes it would (and it has happened in the past, most known with the murder of Pim Fortyn. Sign ins were closed on April 2nd 2002 and the election was May 15th and election law does not allow the lists to be changed between those dates. Now our system works entirely different from the US where you can vote for a person but the vote is generally counted for the Party and seats are based on percentage of the vote they win. (So if a party has 30% of the vote they get 30% of the seats and the top x people on their list get a seat, tho if someone gets a lot of votes they can be moved up). So voting for a dead person doesn't change the results and the next person on the party list simply takes his seat.
On November 04 2020 19:31 Gorsameth wrote: I said it 4 years ago when I woke up to a Trump win, I'll say it now waking up to not a Biden landslide.
Americans are worse then the rest of the world thought.
The fact that after 4 years of Trump bullshit and this year his Covid response the race still comes down to a nail biter is a scathing criticism of the state of American politics and the beliefs of the American people compared to the rest of the western world.
For shame America, for shame.
(obviously not all Americans are bad, and the popular vote goes to Biden but still, WTF man).
Or the Americans are just tired of corrupt useless politicians... Like the ones we have in EU. The fact that Trump is that close to winning after 4 years of left propaganda in the media, means that the the Americans have really strong feel of democracy and freedom.
Are you implying Trump is not an utterly corrupt and useless politician? I'm sorry that you have been in a coma for the last 4 years and have only just woken up, congratulations on that, but Trump has 4 years of strait corruption after corruption case and has been spending most of his time golfing. He is the utter definition of Corrupt and useless.
And a strong feeling of Democracy and Freedom? Trump literally said not long ago that the vote counting should stop and that he should be declared the winner with an unfinished count.
That isn't Democracy, that is a strait up Dictatorship.
What am I even reading... Trump said, that votes should stop being accepted, not counted... Also he said "as far as I'm concerned I won". That is really far from declaring a win. Just to name a few things that Trump did in his term - removed NAFTA and signed USMCA, massive tax cuts to the middle class, hugely improved the political climate in the middle east. The economy was doing great before COVID, last quarter GDP rebounded from covid with +33.1%. So yeah... if this was done while he was mostly golfing... pretty good acheivement.
I am pretty sure the words were that they "should stop the counting" or something along those lines. Not that they should stop accepting other votes but that they should stop counting (the votes already in but not counted yet)
and the context of that phrase was that he was annoyed at states like WI, GA etc not being called for him while he was slightly ahead. They were counted at like 70%, 90% or whatever and Trump said it's impossible for Biden to make up that margin so the voting should be stopped and the states should just be called so that they don't "find" any ballots at 4am in the morning.
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