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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On November 07 2020 13:18 FlaShFTW wrote: You see if he just never got tested he wouldn't have it! He was around Trump and Co. election night, and others during the day. So makes me wonder how many now have to be tested. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 07 2020 13:19 Dante08 wrote: Yeah I'm annoyed at people conveniently taking the high road when Biden is winning and labeling Trump and Trump supporters as the violent ones. If the positions were swapped there would 100% be violence as well. This is pretty disingenuous. Equivocation has consistently shown to be a lie. There haven't been widespread occurrences of progressives organizing and arming themselves, threatening violent action if Trump won the election. There's no indication that progressives would've protested outside vote counting places, interrupting the vote counting process and threatening vote counters while espousing utterly delusional bullshit. Progressives weren't the ones that were repeatedly arrested for conspiring with foreign terrorists, traveling across state lines to incite riots and political terrorism, or conspiring to kidnap and murder a sitting governor. So no, "the exact same thing" would not have happened. Riots? Maybe, but those aren't organized political reactions akin to what conservatives have been doing. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10570 Posts
On November 07 2020 13:33 Stratos_speAr wrote: This is pretty disingenuous. Equivocation has consistently shown to be a lie. There haven't been widespread occurrences of progressives organizing and arming themselves, threatening violent action if Trump won the election. There's no indication that progressives would've protested outside vote counting places, interrupting the vote counting process and threatening vote counters while espousing utterly delusional bullshit. Progressives weren't the ones that were repeatedly arrested for conspiring with foreign terrorists, traveling across state lines to incite riots and political terrorism, or conspiring to kidnap and murder a sitting governor. So no, "the exact same thing" would not have happened. Riots? Maybe, but those aren't organized political reactions akin to what conservatives have been doing. I don't think its unequivocal as you argue. No doubt some part might be organized, while some parts might not be organized. I'm sure some of these Trumpers that are out protesting are random. To be sure, I don't think that any progressive or leftist would ever do something like what is going on now, but I think he's referring to what happens AFTER the election is called. So when viewed in the context of merely the events after an election, yes, I think the two sides might be fairly represented as similar in many ways, but also different in others. The right is far better at actual intimidation and threat of violence, while the left actually performs the violence but it is, for the most part, the occasional person getting their ass beat and property damage. The right is more capable of actual human death (Kenosha), but I genuinely don't believe something to that scale will happen. I could be proven wrong, but I simply wish to have more faith in Trumpers, as dumb and awful as they might be. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
edit: Jesus Christ now it's four aides. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 07 2020 13:29 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: He was around Trump and Co. election night, and others during the day. So makes me wonder how many now have to be tested. Oh yeah. Right. That whole election night party thing...seems like forever ago. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/philadelphia-bomb-threat-us-election-pennsylvania-vote-count-b1649814.html While Biden supporters may have rioted and refused to accept the election results if Trump won, they had much better cause to suspect electioneering (Dejoy) and would not have tried to prevent counting all the votes. | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4921465/user-clip-duty-care Already doing the job better than Trump. With Biden we have at least a chance to heal some wounds. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On November 07 2020 11:52 Nevuk wrote: Carlson said some more insane shit. I don't even know what this means, but Biden is apparently a hologram that isn't real. He's the most viewed fox news host, and has been pointed to as the next GOP nominee by at least 1 political observer today, so I'm quoting this even though it's only tangentially related to the election: Something like 10 million Republicans are going to believe this tomorrow. Quotes from mediaite, but it's a painful site to visit without an adblocker. So here's the daily beast writeup dailybeast + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1324899720767164417 and a short clip: + Show Spoiler + https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1324887827868508162 Mediaite with full monologue (it's pretty nutty): https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/tucker-carlson-says-joe-biden-doesnt-exist-and-is-a-hologram-but-presidency-will-make-you-drink-starbucks-every-day/ To be fair (not that much fairness should be given to carlson), I think the idea here is that Biden is no longer what he was in the past, but is a puppet of whoever is "running the projector". Ironically enough it's also probably meant to be taken literally by the same imbeciles who parrot QAnon tripe. The starbucks thing is really funny though. That's top of the agenda for the left; not dealing with Coronavirus, maybe fixing the healthcare system, dealing with climate change, finding a way to stop systemic racism; they want you to drink starbucks. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32755 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8931 Posts
On November 07 2020 14:02 Golgotha wrote: “We may be opponents but we are not enemies. We are Americans. No matter who you voted for, I am certain of one thing. The vast majority of almost 150 million Americans who voted, they want to get the vitriol out of our politics. We're certainly are not going to agree on a lot of issues, but at least we can agree to be civil with one another. We have to put the anger and demonization behind us. It's time for us to come together as a nation and heal. It's not gonna be easy but we have to try. My responsibility as President will be to represent the whole nation. And, I want you to know that I will work as hard for those who voted against me as those who voted for me. That’s the job. That's the job. It’s called the duty of care for all Americans.” - Joe Biden https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4921465/user-clip-duty-care Already doing the job better than Trump. With Biden we have at least a chance to heal some wounds. im almost in tears about the fact that we can have an american president that is capable of saying something sensible. the last 4 years has been a horror show | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On November 07 2020 14:37 evilfatsh1t wrote: im almost in tears about the fact that we can have an american president that is capable of saying something sensible. the last 4 years has been a horror show I'm with ya mate | ||
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dbRic1203
Germany2655 Posts
Any Updates what happened overnight? Scolled throug and saw Bomb threads and that Meadow and WH staff got tested on Covid 19  How bad is it? | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On November 07 2020 14:44 JimmiC wrote: Kind of a random thought. But might have Biden lost the Cuban vote so bad not because they thought he was a socialist but because he was part of the admin who eased relations with Castro? Has anyone read about anyone going and asking them? As a Cuban, it’s literally around socialism/communism. Most of them don’t understand anything other than a dictatorship. Their dictatorship used “socialism” as a way to gain power. Republicans labeled democrats socialist. | ||
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ASoo
2867 Posts
“Who is Joe Biden?” Carlson began. “This man who claims to be our president? We ought to find out.” “The truth is as of tonight, we don’t really know. We have no clue what Joe Biden thinks or even if he is capable of thinking. He hasn’t told us. No one made him tell us. For a full year now. That’s by design. In fact, it’s becoming clear there is no Joe Biden. The man you may remember from the 1980s is gone. He no longer exists. What remains is a projection of sorts, a hologram designed to mimic the behavior of a non-threatening political candidate. Relax, Joe Biden is here; he smiles a lot. That’s the message from the vapor candidate,” Carson stated. “Don’t think too much. Who is running the projector here?” “You know the people behind Joe Biden are not like that at all. They don’t believe in dissent. That’s not them at all. They demand obedience,” Carlson continued. “Diversity is the last thing they want. It’s a cruel joke. These people seek absolute sameness. Total uniformity.” “You’re happy with your corner coffee shop. They want to make you drink Starbucks every day from now until forever,” he stated. “That’s the future they promise.” I'm no fan of Tucker Carlson, but this is obviously a metaphor, and it's a perfectly coherent one. It's not an insane rant. He's saying that Biden is vapid, lacking in substance, and that his real opinions are unclear because he's acting as a mouthpiece for The Establishment. I don't think that's especially true, and I think Tucker Carlson is a lot more worried about The Establishment running the world than is reasonable. But this is clearly what he's saying here. Anybody framing this as "Tucker Carlson is crazy and thinks Joe Biden literally doesn't exist" is obviously disingenuous. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On November 07 2020 14:55 ASoo wrote: I'm no fan of Tucker Carlson, but this is obviously a metaphor, and it's a perfectly coherent one. It's not an insane rant. He's saying that Biden is vapid, lacking in substance, and that his real opinions are unclear because he's acting as a mouthpiece for The Establishment. I don't think that's especially true, and I think Tucker Carlson is a lot more worried about The Establishment running the world than is reasonable. But this is clearly what he's saying here. Anybody framing this as "Tucker Carlson is crazy and thinks Joe Biden literally doesn't exist" is obviously disingenuous. Even the metaphorical version is crazy. What shadowy people behind Joe Biden are supposed to impose uniformity on anyone? Tucker isn't worried about the The Establishment running the world, he's worried about his ratings when Biden turns out to be exactly the boring, non-threatening president that he is. | ||
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