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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23956 Posts
Trump isn't going to prevail in court to a degree to save him by all credible accounts I've seen. So we're down to political leverage to push faithless electors as a technical victory and/or outright instigating (more than he has) violent refusal to accept the results or any verification of them. This is the first election in living memory where that last one is a serious (albeit still fairly remote) wildcard possibility in the US. What concerns me the most right now is that Trump/Republicans might not have the ability to rein in his most fanatical supporters at this point, even if they wanted to. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45926 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:14 GreenHorizons wrote: So it seems Biden is safe (though still not enough for the decision desks) to take the official vote counts in enough states to secure a presupposed electoral college win. Trump isn't going to prevail in court to a degree to save him by all credible accounts I've seen. So we're down to political leverage to push faithless electors as a technical victory and/or outright instigating (more than he has) violent refusal to accept the results or any verification of them. This is the first election in living memory where that last one is a serious (albeit still fairly remote) wildcard possibility in the US. What concerns me the most right now is that Trump/Republicans might not have the ability to rein in his most fanatical supporters at this point, even if they wanted to. Decision Desk HQ projects that @JoeBiden has won Pennsylvania and its 20 electoral college votes for a total of 273. Joe Biden has been elected the 46th President of the United States of America. Race called at 11-06 08:50 AM EST https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984?s=20 | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26795 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:11 Nebuchad wrote: Next step keep people into politics even though orange man gone :p Within the Northern Irish context Orangeman is never gone :p If we could collectively at least shift out of this ‘culture war’ and back to something approximating issues of policy that would be tasty. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
Using AP's map. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
If Maricopa numbers came in and expanded Biden's lead...that's another story. Don't see anything suggesting it from the person I've been following in AZ though. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10402 Posts
On November 06 2020 11:27 FlaShFTW wrote: Ok here you go: TEAMLIQUID.NET ELECTION COVERAGE TEAM HAS CALLED PENNSYLVANIA FOR VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN WILL CAPTURE ITS 20 ELECTORAL VOTES AND HE NOW HAS SURPASSED THE NECESSARY 270 ELECTORAL VOTES WITH 279, MAKING JOE BIDEN THE PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Just wanted to point out that I called this shit 11 hours ago, but hey, not every news station and polling org can be as good as your friends here at the Teamliquid.net Decision Desk. https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984?s=20 Decision Desk seems to have been the only large-ish coverage team that has officially called this race, though Nate Silver and Nate Cohn seemed to imply that it was also over a long time ago. GEORGIA FLIPPED HAHAHAHAAHAHA Alright well I think this will do it, I'll probably keep up with the major pollsters for a little bit until they finally announce the President-elect and I'll stay up to date with the numbers in Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia for a bit. NC will come out next week, when I get news of that I'll update assuming the main USPMT is gonna be back up. Thanks everyone to an awesome coverage, it was fun being your newscaster for this election. Shoutouts to everyone who followed this thread and used this as your main source of info, hopefully in 2 years we can do this again and I'll be right back here on the TL.net Decision Desk. AND HAPPY 9000 POSTS TO ME! | ||
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Grettin
42400 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:24 JinDesu wrote: Did Arizona expand Biden's lead just now? I swear I saw it was +40k for Biden and now it's +45k? Using AP's map. According to this the last update was 9 hours ago. Maricopa County's next report is at 11am. ET https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:26 FlaShFTW wrote: GOOD MORNING TEAMLIQUID ELECTION DAY THREAD AND WHAT A GLORIOUS MORNING I WAKE UP TO! Just wanted to point out that I called this shit 11 hours ago, but hey, not every news station and polling org can be as good as your friends here at the Teamliquid.net Decision Desk. https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984?s=20 Decision Desk seems to have been the only large-ish coverage team that has officially called this race, though Nate Silver and Nate Cohn seemed to imply that it was also over a long time ago. GEORGIA FLIPPED HAHAHAHAAHAHA Alright well I think this will do it, I'll probably keep up with the major pollsters for a little bit until they finally announce the President-elect and I'll stay up to date with the numbers in Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia for a bit. NC will come out next week, when I get news of that I'll update assuming the main USPMT is gonna be back up. Thanks everyone to an awesome coverage, it was fun being your newscaster for this election. Shoutouts to everyone who followed this thread and used this as your main source of info, hopefully in 2 years we can do this again and I'll be right back here on the TL.net Decision Desk. AND HAPPY 9000 POSTS TO ME! When are you making it over 9000? On November 06 2020 23:27 Grettin wrote: According to this the last update was 9 hours ago. Maricopa County's next report is at 11am. ET https://alex.github.io/nyt-2020-election-scraper/battleground-state-changes.html Thanks - I'll look at that link then. | ||
micronesia
United States24773 Posts
How is the VP decided at that time? | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: So now Biden has overwhelmingly won the popular vote and officially won the electoral college. If you're interested in further paranoia, given Trump's propensity for cheating and rigging things, the electors don't vote until December 14th. Feel free to stay nervous - for the next five weeks - that a bunch of faithless electors will try to give Trump a free presidency, completely nullifying the entire election. Or that Biden gets assassinated. I don't really have the energy to worry about those things right now though; I'm just hoping that Trump voters don't become too violent over the next few days. Are faithless electors really a thing? Anyway. Glad that this absolute nightmare of a presidency comes to an end. I hope they now win the senate and that Biden can implement at least part of his program and start the long process of cleaning up that mess. | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:27 micronesia wrote: If halfway through Biden's first term he decides to retire (or other non-sudden transition of power), is it automatic that Harris becomes president? How is the VP decided at that time? As in any time the VP takes over, they would just pick a new VP | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:28 Biff The Understudy wrote: Are faithless electors really a thing? Anyway. Glad that this absolute nightmare of a presidency comes to an end. I hope they now win the senate and that Biden can implement at least part of his program and start the long process of cleaning up that mess. Faithless electors are a thing, but faithless electors overturning the EC victory/popular vote victory has never happened. Not sure they've ever overturned the EC victory alone either. And I think it would require establishment support that Trump...lacks, to put it politely. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:26 FlaShFTW wrote: GOOD MORNING TEAMLIQUID ELECTION DAY THREAD AND WHAT A GLORIOUS MORNING I WAKE UP TO! Just wanted to point out that I called this shit 11 hours ago, but hey, not every news station and polling org can be as good as your friends here at the Teamliquid.net Decision Desk. https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984?s=20 Decision Desk seems to have been the only large-ish coverage team that has officially called this race, though Nate Silver and Nate Cohn seemed to imply that it was also over a long time ago. GEORGIA FLIPPED HAHAHAHAAHAHA Alright well I think this will do it, I'll probably keep up with the major pollsters for a little bit until they finally announce the President-elect and I'll stay up to date with the numbers in Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia for a bit. NC will come out next week, when I get news of that I'll update assuming the main USPMT is gonna be back up. Thanks everyone to an awesome coverage, it was fun being your newscaster for this election. Shoutouts to everyone who followed this thread and used this as your main source of info, hopefully in 2 years we can do this again and I'll be right back here on the TL.net Decision Desk. AND HAPPY 9000 POSTS TO ME! Thanks Flash, you are a legend. And congrats to your 9000 on such a post. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8081 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:30 TheTenthDoc wrote: Faithless electors are a thing, but faithless electors overturning the vote has never happened. And I think it would require establishment support that Trump...lacks, to put it politely. Yeah. I'll order 12 trucks of popcorns and see everyone turn against Trump in the next weeks. That's going to be absolutely orgasmic. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18291 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:27 micronesia wrote: If halfway through Biden's first term he decides to retire (or other non-sudden transition of power), is it automatic that Harris becomes president? How is the VP decided at that time? Yes, and Harris gets to pick a new VP that the senate has to approve. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:09 WombaT wrote: Is Nate Silver one guy or an organisation? If the former he’s been putting in one hell of a shift. Thank fuck Trump is gone (fingers crossed there’s not some ridiculous court ruling), nice sharing the thread with you all, next step the socialist revolution. To elaborate on what other people said, he's the founder and editor in chief of fivethirtyeight, a stats website. He's the one who designed their model, which is something he did almost alone in 2008 but now has like 30 people helping out. | ||
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On November 06 2020 23:26 FlaShFTW wrote: GOOD MORNING TEAMLIQUID ELECTION DAY THREAD AND WHAT A GLORIOUS MORNING I WAKE UP TO! Just wanted to point out that I called this shit 11 hours ago, but hey, not every news station and polling org can be as good as your friends here at the Teamliquid.net Decision Desk. https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324710866516905984?s=20 Decision Desk seems to have been the only large-ish coverage team that has officially called this race, though Nate Silver and Nate Cohn seemed to imply that it was also over a long time ago. GEORGIA FLIPPED HAHAHAHAAHAHA Alright well I think this will do it, I'll probably keep up with the major pollsters for a little bit until they finally announce the President-elect and I'll stay up to date with the numbers in Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia for a bit. NC will come out next week, when I get news of that I'll update assuming the main USPMT is gonna be back up. Thanks everyone to an awesome coverage, it was fun being your newscaster for this election. Shoutouts to everyone who followed this thread and used this as your main source of info, hopefully in 2 years we can do this again and I'll be right back here on the TL.net Decision Desk. AND HAPPY 9000 POSTS TO ME! What a 9000, congrats | ||
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