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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:01 Wegandi wrote: Interesting. Collectivization of the farms commence! American farm industries are already just flat out socialism. It’s a good thing though because American farmers would never be able to compete with foreign prices. Do you want Chinese pork? Keeping our prices competitive to not eat garbage from China is a good thing | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22675 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:01 Wegandi wrote: Interesting. Collectivization of the farms commence! In 2019, farms received $22.6 billion in government payments, representing 20.4% of $111.1 billion in profits. https://usafacts.org/articles/federal-farm-subsidies-what-data-says/Lets not pretend like farming is some glorious free market. Heck Trump had to pump more money then ever before into them to try and survive the trade war with China. | ||
Nixer
2774 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Wonder if Nevada will find an excuse to make their announcement second... | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24455 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:09 Nixer wrote: What's wrong with Chinese pork? Probably tainted like the Vitamin C(ommunism) /s | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:09 Nixer wrote: What's wrong with Chinese pork? Its FREEDOM contents are below American nutritional guidelines | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:09 Nixer wrote: What's wrong with Chinese pork? Securing a domestic food supply is probably a good idea, strategically. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:16 LegalLord wrote: Securing a domestic food supply is probably a good idea, strategically. Americans are known to eat shittons of soybeans, so i agree. | ||
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Nixer
2774 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:16 LegalLord wrote: Securing a domestic food supply is probably a good idea, strategically. Definitely so. I was more alluding to Mohdoo calling it garbage, trying to figure out what he meant by that. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On November 05 2020 23:33 BisuDagger wrote: Sometimes it only takes a single policy or idea. What if AOC became president in 2021 and ran off the premise that she will push 100% of her Green New Deal program through and had Dem control of congress and the supreme court. https://www.vox.com/2019/2/8/18215774/green-new-deal-high-speed-train-air-travel Now there is a ton to go over in that plan, but let's just assume she bans air travel by "x" date and moves to build speed railways immediately. Let's use California as a great example as to how development of the speed rail system has failed and continues to just eat up money. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2020-02-12/california-bullet-train-cost-rises-by-another-1-billion Now let's apply that to a National Scale and this is trillions of dollars (who and where is that money coming from) to try and accomplish something that will take decades. Yes it will provide jobs, but it while siphon every penny we have. Now my problem isn't with the idea as a whole, I think a country full of trains would be awesome, but that is just one item from her plan that is going to cost trillions of dollars and there are many other items that could cost trillions too. So now I'm stuck wondering if this woman is insane and really thinks all this can be done, or she's just putting out some crazy plan and so every plan after that would look mild and reasonable. For just this policy alone, I would never vote AOC for president. I'm speaking with hyperbole obviously, but this is the kind of all or nothing logic that it sometimes feels like will happen if Democrats have power. Call me naive and unaware, but what has happened that supports the bolded statement? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:09 Nixer wrote: What's wrong with Chinese pork? Same thing that’s wrong with Chinese air. Their regulations are less than ours. Similarly, the UK people are desperately trying to prevent importing American chicken because American food standards are much less strict. American chicken export is garbage compared to their domestic product. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:20 Mohdoo wrote: Same thing that’s wrong with Chinese air. Their regulations are less than ours. Similarly, the UK people are desperately trying to prevent importing American chicken because American food standards are much less strict. American chicken export is garbage compared to their domestic product. That's not the UK, that's the EU. In the UK there are fears that these standards are sacrificed on the altar of Brexit leading to import of chlorinated chicken and hormone treated beef. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:22 Artisreal wrote: Well Scotland very much so tries to safe themselves from the US food exports :D Didn't work out so well, heard a big american hog went there and built a golfing thing. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:17 m4ini wrote: Americans are known to eat shittons of soybeans, so i agree. Well there certainly is that strange way that farmers are subsidized into overproduction in the US. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:22 Artisreal wrote: Well Scotland very much so tries to safe themselves from the US food exports :D And they should. Many countries do. If Chinese standards are a 50, US is 60, EU is 80. No one should want worse than their government has already deemed minimum acceptable | ||
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Nixer
2774 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:20 Mohdoo wrote: Same thing that’s wrong with Chinese air. Their regulations are less than ours. Similarly, the UK people are desperately trying to prevent importing American chicken because American food standards are much less strict. American chicken export is garbage compared to their domestic product. Can you point out these regulations regarding pork livestock, and the differences between the two countries? | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 06 2020 00:25 Nixer wrote: Can you point out these regulations regarding pork livestock, and the differences between the two countries? To be 100% fair, i couldn't point to these regulations (or lack thereof) but i still would choose european and even american pork over chinese pork. Mainly because even if there were sufficient (to me) regulations, which i honestly doubt that they're adhered to in china. edit, wtf did i even write there Mainly because even if there were, to me, sufficient regulations in china (which i honestly doubt), i don't trust that they're being adhered to. There. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
I suspect Trump will reverse his stance on post-election day ballots the instant he falls behind in PA. | ||
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