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warding
Portugal2394 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
On February 29 2020 02:23 Broetchenholer wrote: In Southern Germany we still joke about it at the office even though it seems likely that it is currently spreading all around us undetected. The office suggests to be ready to work from home at any time if needed. My fear is that the brits get scared and don't let flights from Stuttgart in when I want to travel there for vacation next Wednesday... I think you should cancel the flight and the vacation there altogether. Knowing how active it's now in northern Italy and how fast this thing spreads, it's unpredictable what will be the situation in three days. I'm sure you don't want to catch it, and for sure we don't want you to spread it more if you catch it. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
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Kantuva
Uruguay206 Posts
Currently Uruguay is at the end of Summer break, and there are no plans to delay it as far as I have read, hospitals have been stocking supplies and getting ready for when it eventually arrives to the country, but there are still worries that the healthcare system might not suffice especially on more isolated parts of the country. Media over here haven't been spreading fear but actually quite good information sourced directly from CCDC, the Chinese body of control and prevention of diseases such as that 80.9% of ncoronavirus cases are classified as mild, 13.8% as grave and only 4.7% as critical, which includes respiratory failures, etc and of those 4.7 crtical, most come from people with preexisting health conditions | ||
KwarK
United States42973 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17341 Posts
The Minister of Defense has called in all of the military hospital commanders for a meeting (don't know the results of that yet, will keep you posted). Students that have recently traveled to countries with confirmed nCov cases have been forbidden from attending classes at the university for the next 2 weeks (and I know for a fact that some of them are ignoring this restriction). | ||
TheEmulator
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MinscandBoo
252 Posts
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
The corona virus is talked about everywhere and dominates the news but I have not seen any difference in my day-to-day activities. I hear masks and sanitizers are sold out pretty much everywhere, though. The only thing I personally noticed is that hand sanitizer dispensers have been installed in every single hallway in the company I work for. However, the company I work for may be in big trouble due to the corona virus. Business in its core branch has been declining steadily in the past 5 years. In this time, they managed to diversify rapidly so the core branch only accounts for ~50% of the revenue currently, but it came at a steep price. Diversification and the simultaneous expansion have been done mostly through expensive (and sometimes economically questionable) acquisitions. In 5 years, the number of employees has increased by almost 200% and even before the virus it became apparent that the running cost alongside the acquisition expenses have caused financial instability (2 cost-cutting programms plus temporary employee contracts not being extended). The issue with the virus outbreak is that the two biggest projects which just started and promised to finally stabilize the company came from Chinese clients who in turn are expected to send several hundred people overhere. If the projects break down due to the virus, the company may be in for some pretty hard times. I am not particularly worried for myself but it could have a noticable impact on the local economy and on many of the employees. | ||
Poopi
France12897 Posts
Receiving some emails from work and university about it (with some misinformation at work by omission). The number of cases rose by a lot very recently here and since it was likely spreading silently we might go full italia. We are prepared for small number of cases (1000+) but if it reaches 100 000 or so it'll be a huge problem with the hospital crisis going on already. I'm glad the asian racism has lowered since europe got it now (and probably people are becoming a bit too scared of it to be racist anymore or idk). Since there are a lot of travels at the company I work with, their work life is affected a bit, and today some people that should have come from Singapore didn't, but otherwise not too much has changed. I feel like the effects will be noticeable very soon though. There was a lot of news about it, but it stopped a bit I'd say a week or two ago, and came back at the front with the Italy situation. Overall it's an unique and interesting situation to live. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On February 29 2020 05:21 Manit0u wrote: Thanks to the insider info I have at local hospitals I know that there are at least 2 cases of nCov in my city but the information is being kept under wraps and all hush hush. The Minister of Defense has called in all of the military hospital commanders for a meeting (don't know the results of that yet, will keep you posted). Students that have recently traveled to countries with confirmed nCov cases have been forbidden from attending classes at the university for the next 2 weeks (and I know for a fact that some of them are ignoring this restriction). Jesus....the fuck is wrong with people. Somehow not surprised to here that things are being kept under wraps. It's likely the case in most place based on the current modeling of the disease and the transmissibilty. While the disease doesn't look "that" bad in those U60, it's still dramatically worse than flu, and my biggest concern is that with the higher % that develop severe illness, hospital resources will be inadequate to meet demand, dramatically raising the CFR. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On February 29 2020 06:26 MinscandBoo wrote: I live in a city with some confirmed cases (USA). Lots of talk and many afraid people but no real action as of yet... Weird stuff though, like we're out of a lot of fresh vegetables. Dunno if it's related at all. None of it usually comes from China. (california and mexico). I've next to no food stores and no paid time off at my work and living paycheck to paycheck so I'm pretty screwed if it comes down to it. I have a tiny garden box with some plants just popping up but it'd be a drop in the bucket. I'm not overly worried though. My brother has a month old baby though and I hope at least he'll be okay. I don't go see him anymore since I have so much contact with the general public with my job. Masks sold out a month ago. Any time we get more they are immediately bought. Mortality rates are VERY low in the young, which is somewhat unusual. Well under 1 in 1000, and in fact I'm not sure if there has even been a confirmed infant death yet. On February 29 2020 05:52 TheEmulator wrote: From what I can tell nothing is going on here in Saskatoon, Canada. Not really concerned at all, partially due to knowing that a lot of the hysteria is overblown by the media to some extent, and also partially due to Saskatoon being in the middle of nowhere I keep hearing about this hysteria. Don't consume much media, so I'm curious about this. I have yet to meet anyone who is hysterical over this yet. Don't know anyone talking about isolating and bunkering down for a year, aside from one guy one my facebook who is like that over every threat. I'm genuine curious what the media is claiming that is overblown? How bad are they making it look? | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On February 29 2020 11:48 L_Master wrote: Mortality rates are VERY low in the young, which is somewhat unusual. Well under 1 in 1000, and in fact I'm not sure if there has even been a confirmed infant death yet. I keep hearing about this hysteria. Don't consume much media, so I'm curious about this. I have yet to meet anyone who is hysterical over this yet. Don't know anyone talking about isolating and bunkering down for a year, aside from one guy one my facebook who is like that over every threat. I'm genuine curious what the media is claiming that is overblown? How bad are they making it look? I think knowing about the future of the spread/containment, by actually knowing what the fuck is going on in China atm, would be greatly helpful; it is basically looking into the future for the rest of the world. I don't even mind the CCP under reporting cases in absolute terms, but rather knowing if they managed to stop contagion rate as they claim or not, and what worked exactly. | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
https://www.king5.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/washington-coronavirus-update/281-e73682dc-dad7-4b6e-b0ec-d2234ff9e2e0 I'm decently prepared | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17341 Posts
On February 29 2020 11:46 L_Master wrote: Jesus....the fuck is wrong with people. Somehow not surprised to here that things are being kept under wraps. It's likely the case in most place based on the current modeling of the disease and the transmissibilty. While the disease doesn't look "that" bad in those U60, it's still dramatically worse than flu, and my biggest concern is that with the higher % that develop severe illness, hospital resources will be inadequate to meet demand, dramatically raising the CFR. It doesn't help that Poland has pretty much closed all of its contagious disease wards across the country some time ago. There's a total of maybe 30 beds for contagious patients across the country of 40 million people and only a handful of doctors who specialize in the field (the rest have left the country for greener pastures when they started closing stuff down). We do have some pretty well equipped pulmunology wards though due to the resurgence of tuberculosis and such so that might help a bit if it comes to worse. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
My country right now has a policy that any person returning from places where the infection is serious has to be checked and even without symptoms undergoes a mandatory home-quarantine for 14 days. With symptoms you'd go to actual quarantine. AFAIK from certain towns in Italy, you just cant go home at all, you're stuck there. Not sure what to do, Barcelona isnt on the list yet, but it could be in the future. I'd need to go in 3 weeks time, could get reasonable amount of partial refunds up until 2 weeks before leaving. Im a healthy adult, I'm not afraid of the virus, but really dislike the idea of getting quarantined. Got just about a week to make up my mind. The airline i'd fly with cancelled a bunch of their flights to Italy this week, so if things turn for the worse in the coming day, the decision might be out of my hand. Oh and some people are really panicking over here, surgical masks are sold out everywhere (even though the virus isnt even here, and the masks dont really protect that much), multiple supermarkets were rushed and some shelves emptied. Not everywhere though, but definitely happened at a couple of places and got coverage. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Low level Masks are effective for 20 or so mins, even for the healthy until they get wet --> single use during a short train journey. Apart from that I've heard a couple of ppmedical professionals say that it's better not to use masks because you touch your face more with them one --> smear infections. For professional protection you should use a mask (with FFP2 or 3). | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18050 Posts
On February 29 2020 18:27 Geo.Rion wrote: I have a paid for trip to Barcelona coming up (it was a birthday gift for my gf), i made final arrangements hours before i found out that the virus spread there too. My country right now has a policy that any person returning from places where the infection is serious has to be checked and even without symptoms undergoes a mandatory home-quarantine for 14 days. With symptoms you'd go to actual quarantine. AFAIK from certain towns in Italy, you just cant go home at all, you're stuck there. Not sure what to do, Barcelona isnt on the list yet, but it could be in the future. I'd need to go in 3 weeks time, could get reasonable amount of partial refunds up until 2 weeks before leaving. Im a healthy adult, I'm not afraid of the virus, but really dislike the idea of getting quarantined. Got just about a week to make up my mind. The airline i'd fly with cancelled a bunch of their flights to Italy this week, so if things turn for the worse in the coming day, the decision might be out of my hand. Oh and some people are really panicking over here, surgical masks are sold out everywhere (even though the virus isnt even here, and the masks dont really protect that much), multiple supermarkets were rushed and some shelves emptied. Not everywhere though, but definitely happened at a couple of places and got coverage. Don't know if I can help much other than to tell you life is going on exactly as normal here in Barcelona. I am not doing home office, although I was asked to request VPN access so that I *can* home office if the health organizations recommend companies do that. But stuff moves fast. 3 weeks ago, I don't think there were any confirmed cases in Lombardy and now it's being treated as the hotspot in Europe. So maybe in 3 weeks I will be on lockdown in my flat and Barcelona will be one of the no-go zones. If you want to be sure to not run into trouble with travel restrictions/quarantine, be prepared to cancel your trip. But if the situation remains as it is now and doesn't escalate, Barcelona is fine. E: unlike IEM, the Clasico tomorrow is being played with public (at least, so far nothing is canceled). Whether that is because our authorities are willfully ignorant to the risks or Katowice's authorities are totally paranoid... I cannot say. | ||
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Ingvar
Russian Federation421 Posts
There is nothing here yet but rumors about COVID-2019 are a popular discussion topic. The city would be pretty fucked though in case of epidemics because of extreme density of population and reliance on metro for transportation. I am fortunate enough that I could easily switch to working from home if allowed but it is not a possibility for a lot of people. I have a holiday in France planned in a week and I really hope nothing happens during this time so I can fly there without problems. I don’t mind getting stuck in France though =) | ||
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