There has been much talk regarding the possibility of having a Teamliquid t-shirt. We are finally pushing forward with the idea and we are looking to you, the Teamliquid community, for coming up with the t-shirt's design!
Feel free to create as many versions as you wish or update your existing submissions. Try to limit the number of colors used. The more basic the look of the design, the better. Note that the design may be used for other Teamliquid merchandise besides T-shirts in the future. Remember the designs should not contain any third-party logos, trademarks or copyright material.
To participate in the contest, please post a link to your image and an image showing how the design would look like on a t-shirt outline as follows:
*T-SHIRT CONTEST SUBMISSION* Link: Image:
The more design options added and the more colors, the more expensive the shirts tend to be. Design and cost should be considered for voting. Designs that do not follow guidelines cannot be accepted.
We will be accepting submissions until July 2, 2007, 12:00pm PST (2 weeks from now). The top three designs will be decided by public vote between July 2 - July 9. The final winner will be decided by TL staff.
Prize: Teamliquid T-shirt!
Good Luck!
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Each additional color in your design would add .75 cents to the per shirt price.
Note that the final design may change pending consultation with staff. The staff will contact the designer if changes need to be done. Also note that we may possibly move forward with only a front design (unless the back is too awesome to leave out). We would also like to stay away from Blizzard units or designs as much as possible.
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The center of images having a height of 6" or less are placed 5" down from the collar seam at vertical center. The top of images exceeding 6" in height are placed 2" down at vertical center. Maximum image size is 12" wide by 14" in height.
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The center of images having a height of 6" or less are placed 7" down from the collar seam at vertical center. The top of images exceeding 6" in height are placed 4" down at vertical center. Maximum image size is 12" wide by 14" in height.
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yeah the title and description on both sides is overkill there, and if you wanna leave a space inbetween then at least make it capitalized, like Team Liquid
On June 18 2007 14:18 semioldguy wrote: We should have a users poll too, maybe it could help influence some of the staff if they are undecided between a couple different designs.
"The top three designs will be decided by public vote between July 2 - July 9. The final winner will be decided by TL staff. "
On June 18 2007 14:18 semioldguy wrote: We should have a users poll too, maybe it could help influence some of the staff if they are undecided between a couple different designs.
"The top three designs will be decided by public vote between July 2 - July 9. The final winner will be decided by TL staff. "
I should lern 2 reed. I retract that previous statement.
I can't really draw it but if someone could draw my explanation:
The Sandlot logo on the front [ fairly large ] Shield battery quote on back or some other quote. [ We should vote on a quote ] TeamLiquid on the sleeve [ right or left ]
On June 18 2007 14:46 Ack1027 wrote: I can't really draw it but if someone could draw my explanation:
The Sandlot logo on the front [ fairly large ] Shield battery quote on back or some other quote. [ We should vote on a quote ] TeamLiquid on the sleeve [ right or left ]
I think a lot of people would like that.
This was my basic idea too, but I was going to translate the shield battery quote into different languages.
Any final artwork should have the approval of the original designer. ie. JellyCat should be cool with his logo being in it before it gets voted in as the top tl shirt.
^does that account for the horses in the banner? I mean someone did paint that its just we dont know who or the name? (if you do please say so otherwise)
Thanks to mnm I've heard of what's going on around here, so I decided to get out of my hole one more time. As for the statement above, there's no problem in using the logo I've done for sandlot. The fact is I don't have a high res version of it as of now. There are two possibilities (and I like both of them ): somebody tries to get something out of the sandlot logo as it is now to do a 'personnal high res version of it' or I try to get some time to work on a high res version myself... If anyone up for that...
What concerns me regarding the sandlot logo, is the number of colours in use in the image mostly due to the flags. I have no idea how big a problem it is as I have no idea what would be the price difference between a two colours and a 32K colours shirt. What seems to be the standard for cheap&good looking tshirts is 4 colours (well that's my experience...).
A note to add to the great presentation of the contest written by mnm would be to do some colour testing before actually printing it. One colour can look really different from screen to screen and I guess a lot of people would be disappointed to have washed out colours tshirt when they see flashy ones advertised on TL.net. That said, I have no idea whatsoever on how to test colours :D
edit: oh and thanks to the guys who pmed me about the sandlot logo, I really appreciate the comments
On June 18 2007 14:48 PanoRaMa wrote: To be frankly honest, I don't think I'll buy a shirt that says anything remotely similar to "your source for starcraft progaming" :[ Sorry kizz!
No problem. I'm happy to see people's opinions so I can see what exactly they want so I would be able to make some tweaks here and there before submitting my final design.
Kizz, I don't know if the artwork would span the width of the shirt. i believe it will only show up centered.. 10x10inches.. thats not even the size of my waist..
I think I would best like just a simple "TeamLiquid" or "TeamLiquid.Net" without any slogan or additional sentence/text. And a single icon or image would be good (or set of three like that marine/zealot/lurker). Simplicity wins for me.
IMO, drop the horses altogether, use the back as the front (the three units), keep Team Liquid, and drop the slogan. Having another design on the back is unnecessary and redundant.
Also, the only instance I can think of at the moment where having a design on the back would work is having just the sandlot logo (enlarged, of course) on the back, and then maybe "team liquid" on the upper-right side of the front.
IMO, drop the horses altogether, use the back as the front (the three units), keep Team Liquid, and drop the slogan. Having another design on the back is unnecessary and redundant.
A design like this I think would be best. This is the Jimmy Eat World t-shirt that I own and is probably my favorite shirt. It's so simple but it certainly brings attention to the words Jimmy Eat World. I'm pretty sure if we have a simple looking horse, not too fruity, not too jazzy, and teamliquid.net underneath it, people will be like huh, wonder what that site is. Maybe a horse logo and teamliquid.net right underneath it.
On June 18 2007 18:17 jkillashark wrote: I think less is more.
A design like this I think would be best. This is the Jimmy Eat World t-shirt that I own and is probably my favorite shirt. It's so simple but it certainly brings attention to the words Jimmy Eat World. I'm pretty sure if we have a simple looking horse, not too fruity, not too jazzy, and teamliquid.net underneath it, people will be like huh, wonder what that site is. Maybe a horse logo and teamliquid.net right underneath it.
IMO, drop the horses altogether, use the back as the front (the three units), keep Team Liquid, and drop the slogan. Having another design on the back is unnecessary and redundant.
So something like this on the front:
Keep it sweet, keep it simple.
My favorite so far assuming that the Sandlot Logo wouldn't work out.
On June 18 2007 18:17 jkillashark wrote: I think less is more.
A design like this I think would be best. This is the Jimmy Eat World t-shirt that I own and is probably my favorite shirt. It's so simple but it certainly brings attention to the words Jimmy Eat World. I'm pretty sure if we have a simple looking horse, not too fruity, not too jazzy, and teamliquid.net underneath it, people will be like huh, wonder what that site is. Maybe a horse logo and teamliquid.net right underneath it.
Holy shit, I own that exact shirt and wear it often. It is also one of my favorite shirts. I like your taste good sir.
On June 18 2007 18:53 sith wrote: I don't have time to make it right now but I will later. Best would be just "Teamliquid" on front, no .net or icons or slogans.
On back have the three logos (hydra, marine, zealot). Simple, yet effcient.
IMO, drop the horses altogether, use the back as the front (the three units), keep Team Liquid, and drop the slogan. Having another design on the back is unnecessary and redundant.
On June 18 2007 18:53 sith wrote: I don't have time to make it right now but I will later. Best would be just "Teamliquid" on front, no .net or icons or slogans.
On back have the three logos (hydra, marine, zealot). Simple, yet effcient.
how do i change the DPI w/ photoshop? i looked thru the options, couldnt find anything right clicking --> properties --> summary tells me my images are only 72 DPI.....
On June 18 2007 14:46 Ack1027 wrote: I can't really draw it but if someone could draw my explanation:
The Sandlot logo on the front [ fairly large ] Shield battery quote on back or some other quote. [ We should vote on a quote ] TeamLiquid on the sleeve [ right or left ]
On June 18 2007 14:46 Ack1027 wrote: I can't really draw it but if someone could draw my explanation:
The Sandlot logo on the front [ fairly large ] Shield battery quote on back or some other quote. [ We should vote on a quote ] TeamLiquid on the sleeve [ right or left ]
I think a lot of people would like that.
SECONDED
I'd like to do this one, please select a quote of your preference. I think I can do the rest.
On June 18 2007 14:46 Ack1027 wrote: I can't really draw it but if someone could draw my explanation:
The Sandlot logo on the front [ fairly large ] Shield battery quote on back or some other quote. [ We should vote on a quote ] TeamLiquid on the sleeve [ right or left ]
I think a lot of people would like that.
SECONDED
THIRDED
but sleeve screens bump up the price a bit. 3 screens > 2 ;;
On June 18 2007 14:46 Ack1027 wrote: I can't really draw it but if someone could draw my explanation:
The Sandlot logo on the front [ fairly large ] Shield battery quote on back or some other quote. [ We should vote on a quote ] TeamLiquid on the sleeve [ right or left ]
I think a lot of people would like that.
SECONDED
THIRDED
but sleeve screens bump up the price a bit. 3 screens > 2 ;;
Fourthed? FOURTHED Honestly, I couldn't care less about the sleeve business though.
IMO, drop the horses altogether, use the back as the front (the three units), keep Team Liquid, and drop the slogan. Having another design on the back is unnecessary and redundant.
So something like this on the front:
Keep it sweet, keep it simple.
My favorite so far assuming that the Sandlot Logo wouldn't work out.
This one is my favorite so far simplicity always works well in sales no need for fancy pictures. All white in the back would be perfect. Make it one word thou.
When I told my GF about this idea, she told me she wanted a shirt too (for going through all the hard times alone while I was happily reading TL T_T). So she asked me to ask, will this be printed on female t-shirts as well?
This is by far the best i've seen of all those contest... Plz just make it simple, the others with everything full of images w/e are just for youngs/nerds who doesn't know a single shit about how to wear them...
What would look cooler is just keep the sandlot logo (remove the z/t/p images) and put teamliquid down to the horse (same lenght) The back is simply perfect. But isn't it hard to make it ?..
Edit : Or put teamliquid in back, remove the one in front just keep a single but beautiful sandlot logo.
On June 18 2007 21:17 Cambium wrote: When I told my GF about this idea, she told me she wanted a shirt too (for going through all the hard times alone while I was happily reading TL T_T). So she asked me to ask, will this be printed on female t-shirts as well?
because I am running this, yes there will most probably be female shirts (or tank tops.. whichever looks better to me) =p
also, fyi, YOU DONT NEED TO HAVE FRONT AND BACK. Having design on the back will also bump up the price.
That's probably the best solution, imo. Maybe mnm can let us know how much it would cost, but that's a shirt I'd actually buy. It's a really great looking logo.
That is a good looking shirt Zelniq, I like the very basic design of just sandlot logo on the front, but I don't like anything on the back. I think that just having the logo on the front of a plain white shirt is very good looking by itself and doesn't need anything else.
On June 18 2007 23:54 mnm wrote: imo the tl logo would fit nicely into that 10x10 (im still looking at other options).
Maybe .. TL.net logo + race pictures.. Other than that I just can't imagine 10x10inch picture looks good, though!
why dont you come back to me with a tshirt store that allows for individual orders of custom designs that go beyond the centered image/tshirt pocket margins that has reasonable prices and allows for international orders?
well can we get a larger picture if we go with a smaller DPI? and if you could give us the website(and what kind of shirt option you're planning) so we can try it ourselves that would be nice because I can't tell how many inches my images are going to be on the shirt, unless you tell us how wide the shirts are or can convert the sizes to computer image sizes
hm judging by the pics you posted last page, maybe the shirts are around 16 inches wide? if that's the case then then sandlot logo i posted last page should work just fine then
On June 18 2007 23:54 mnm wrote: imo the tl logo would fit nicely into that 10x10 (im still looking at other options).
Maybe .. TL.net logo + race pictures.. Other than that I just can't imagine 10x10inch picture looks good, though!
why dont you come back to me with a tshirt store that allows for individual orders of custom designs that go beyond the centered image/tshirt pocket margins that has reasonable prices and allows for international orders?
i have family that works in the promotion business and has access to the means of production for like every kind of shirt there is, the only problem is if you want to go that route you would have to go through stuff like minimum orders and all that.
i could run it by them but they would probably need concrete numbers in order to give a real estimate of what it would cost, like the kind of shirt, how large of a run you want, the colors of the screen, how many shirts that would be made, etc.
this sort of approach would yield a far better product.
On June 19 2007 01:13 AiurZ wrote: i have family that works in the promotion business and has access to the means of production for like every kind of shirt there is, the only problem is if you want to go that route you would have to go through stuff like minimum orders and all that.
i could run it by them but they would probably need concrete numbers in order to give a real estimate of what it would cost, like the kind of shirt, how large of a run you want, the colors of the screen, how many shirts that would be made, etc.
this sort of approach would yield a far better product.
I would actually like to design shirts that cover the whole shirt (like the example I posted in here) so there is a minimum of 'boring' space on a shirt.
I didn't realise till after about the 10x10 thing, which was annoying.
It'd be cool if people wanted to make both a simple/plainer shirt and a whole-shirt designed shirt.
I'm not actually going to design a shirt, but I do have some things that the shirt designers should consider if they want their shirts to be worn in public by a single member of TL--and if they want to receive my unique variety of support when judging comes around (not that I have any clout whatsoever in the decision-making process, but I will, with an invisible hand, influence those that do).
Team Liquid? Kind of a cool name. TeamLiquid.net? A URL--suddenly not so cool.
A graphic that looks attractive and is only vaguely identifiable as being a biproduct of StarCraft (a pylon, for instance)? Excellent. The actual word "StarCraft" appearing on a shirt? Not so excellent.
Korean characters? Could be cool if used properly. Dorky inside jokes? Not so much.
As a rule of thumb, small graphics are better than large ones, and an image without text is better than an image with text. A small "TeamLiquid" just below the neckline on the back of the shirt is better than a large "TEAM LIQUID" on the front of the shirt.
And the Sandlot horse is gay. There can be no debate on this. ^^
The best by far, plain and simple. I would def buy this one, but the front is pretty impossible because of the borders mnm told us about. Maybe drop the race icons and put a small version of the sandlotlogo on the front or back within the ranges?
Oh, almost forgot, drop the .net plz
On June 19 2007 01:44 DJEtterStyle wrote: I'm not actually going to design a shirt, but I do have some things that the shirt designers should consider if they want their shirts to be worn in public by a single member of TL--and if they want to receive my unique variety of support when judging comes around (not that I have any clout whatsoever in the decision-making process, but I will, with an invisible hand, influence those that do).
Team Liquid? Kind of a cool name. TeamLiquid.net? A URL--suddenly not so cool.
A graphic that looks attractive and is only vaguely identifiable as being a biproduct of StarCraft (a pylon, for instance)? Excellent. The actual word "StarCraft" appearing on a shirt? Not so excellent.
Korean characters? Could be cool if used properly. Dorky inside jokes? Not so much.
As a rule of thumb, small graphics are better than large ones, and an image without text is better than an image with text. A small "TeamLiquid" just below the neckline on the back of the shirt is better than a large "TEAM LIQUID" on the front of the shirt.
And the Sandlot horse is gay. There can be no debate on this. ^^
Couldn't agree more. And i like the idea of korean characters if used right (means not to flashy). Ooh read over this: the Sandlot horse rocks dude!
Since everyone has such different taste (what can be cool to one person may not be to another), is there a feature where we can "pick" our design but have 1 thing consistent?
Example: everyone has the same front design but you can customize your own back (choosen from lets say 1-3 graphics) if this is too much, then just forget it, unless of course if you want to pay more for your shirt.
also, thanks for the comments ^_^ i will fine tune it later on.
On June 19 2007 01:44 DJEtterStyle wrote: I'm not actually going to design a shirt, but I do have some things that the shirt designers should consider if they want their shirts to be worn in public by a single member of TL--and if they want to receive my unique variety of support when judging comes around (not that I have any clout whatsoever in the decision-making process, but I will, with an invisible hand, influence those that do).
Team Liquid? Kind of a cool name. TeamLiquid.net? A URL--suddenly not so cool.
A graphic that looks attractive and is only vaguely identifiable as being a biproduct of StarCraft (a pylon, for instance)? Excellent. The actual word "StarCraft" appearing on a shirt? Not so excellent.
Korean characters? Could be cool if used properly. Dorky inside jokes? Not so much.
As a rule of thumb, small graphics are better than large ones, and an image without text is better than an image with text. A small "TeamLiquid" just below the neckline on the back of the shirt is better than a large "TEAM LIQUID" on the front of the shirt.
And the Sandlot horse is gay. There can be no debate on this. ^^
I agree with some points of your post, but not all.
I agree that Team Liquid, standing alone, is better than teamliquid.net, aesthetically.
I agree that the shirt shouldn't overtly make mention of starcraft.
I think Korean characters are inappropriate, regardless.
I don't think small graphics are intrinsically better than large ones in any sense, and I don't think a small "teamliquid" below the back neckline is better than a "teamliquid" on the front of the shirt at all.
Most importantly, I don't think the sandlot logo is gay at all. I think it's head and shoulders above anything else that's been proposed. Maybe you can expound upon what you wrote to change my mind?
Honestly I haven't seen a lot of different shirts and Smurg's work is by far the best so far. I suck with photoshop and what not, so I can't really help out here. I do hope you guys put a bit more effort into it. Where is that suffeli? guy. He fucking owns with photoshop and he's hilarious:o Maybe he needs to be pm'ed about this!
I agree with what DJEtter wrote except that an inside joke would be cool imo. Like the ME Gosu or the battery one. Who cares if others don't understand it? It's funny to us and that's what matters.
And dear god not the Sandlot horse. It's a pretty good logo don't misunderstand me but on a T-shirt it would look totally gay just like Etter said.
On June 18 2007 14:46 Ack1027 wrote: I can't really draw it but if someone could draw my explanation:
The Sandlot logo on the front [ fairly large ] Shield battery quote on back or some other quote. [ We should vote on a quote ] TeamLiquid on the sleeve [ right or left ]
I think a lot of people would like that.
Genious.
or:
On June 18 2007 22:18 Zelniq wrote: how about this:
Front:
WHY DON'T YOU WANT THIS ??? It's by far the bestest ever.
Repost of my post here cause it seem to still be useful. Even tho if it is supposed to be a cafepress product, then it goes down the crappy shirt line (bad printing). We have contact in california for silk printing at about 20$ a pop for 2 colors if my memory is good (with good quality color t-shirt included)
Many very good things in this thread so far.
I also want to ask again for an high res version of the sandlot logo. Cause I want to try myself at it...
Okay, let me step in just a sec here, to let you share some pointers about making a good T-shirt.
There are many ways to print a shirt nowadays, most of them are crappy or expensive. By crappy I mean glued to the shirt computer print, fading illustration color and so on.
We don't want a crappy shirt for TL, do we ?
What we want is silk screening. Silk screening is the most resistant and the best looking impression you can get on a shirt. But there is a twist to silk screening. You can only print plain colors. and few of them.
So while designing your t-shirt idea, you must focus on that.
Examples :
This was the design of the drone for the scg t-shirt, it was never done because it featured 4 colors, and was too expensive to produce.
Now this :
This is a great great design, but unfortunately, it would do for a crappy t-shirt. Why ? Because silk screening is impossible with that much colors (or way to expensive). So if we were to choose this design (or this, this, and this), we would be stuck with a great idea but a crappy shirt.
Think 2 colors, or 3 colors, including the t-shirt color (1 or 2 color for ink if you prefer) Design like that are perfect (not in a matter of taste but in a practical way.) :
(well definitely not in a matter of taste for the latter)
Anyways, I hope you get my points folks. There is no need to get all worked up for a design that is only possible in our dreams. Think simple.
One more thing.
As I implied it earlier, on silk screening printed shirt, there is one "free" color. That is the actual shirt color. White is an easy choice, black is too.. But come on, folks are we followers or leaders? Everyone does a black or a white t-shirt.... we want Burgundy, Royal Blue or Citrus Yellow.
Something that stand out and says, TEAM LIQUID IS REALLY GREAT. We don't want your average middle ground sports club, black and red crappy slogan that end up on the bottom of your t-shirt pile, never to be wear anywhere but in gaming conventions full of nerd.
We want a t-shirt Rekrul can wear in an exquisite Vegas VIP lounge. We want a t-shirt Mani can wear at work and still get proposed free sex by his female students. We want a t-shirt that could make CharlieMurphy look funny and bright. We want a t-shirt that would make Stimey weep for his lost playground. We want a t-shirt even Hot Bid could not find a joke about.... And finally, a t-shirt that would ADD to the coolness of PuertoRican.
Wouldn't it be best to just have 2 t-shirt designs? (one black with white font and one white with blue font) Each being the same: team liquid written like on the site (without background picture) over the heart and http://teamliquid.net/ written on the back? (would do it but currently I don't own any photoshop/corel like programs). Simple yet nice.
On June 19 2007 04:18 KizZBG wrote: The 2nd front looks quite nice (it's what I had in mind for the the Sandlot logo). I'd prefer the unit icons at the back.
what you mean like this? Back:
(of the already posted) Front:
wow i've spent way too much time on these shirts jeezessss time to sleep
Yep, I quite like that. Now if you can make all that in a transparent PNG 2000x200 with 2000 DPI would be awesome.
On June 18 2007 20:36 Zelniq wrote: how do i change the DPI w/ photoshop? i looked thru the options, couldnt find anything right clicking --> properties --> summary tells me my images are only 72 DPI.....
When you start a new document change the resolution from 72 to 200.
Having high DPI is important for printing since that would effect the quality of the graphic.
To everyone, I found a nice little article explaining this clearly in detail. Click
On June 19 2007 04:43 Liquid`Daaman wrote: i like it better without the unit icons altogether... just the horse with the scarf etc = art. in one color works too.
at least nothing else on the front plz~
I have to agree there. Still looks kickass in one color.
Other than that the "life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" quote below the neck on the back. Oh and other color options than white with blue print could be interesting. My friend hade a nice T-shirt with a inside joke quote in silver (with sparkling/glitter effect) on a darkish limegreen basecolor. Looked alot better than it sounds. Downside with non white colors is that they tend to fade if used alot. But that problem goes down a bit with high quality I think.
Edit:As for ingame icons (as the above posts stimpack) I like the defiler consume one the best. It kinda looks like a dragon.
but fix up the words on the teamliquid one ie remove "your source for starcraft progaming" which is quite lame (no offence) and put either a better tagline or make the teamliquid text more interesting.
the right sleeve reads: tLiquid the left sleeve reads: tShirt
To the Admins:
if you want me to change anything (i.e. sleeves, color) go ahead and tell me.
thanks for looking at it, and you can find a clearer version here (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57932162/?q=by%3Ahodori911+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime)
the right sleeve reads: tLiquid the left sleeve reads: tShirt
To the Admins:
if you want me to change anything (i.e. sleeves, color) go ahead and tell me.
thanks for looking at it, and you can find a clearer version here (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57932162/?q=by%3Ahodori911+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime)
I like it but the marine and the stimpack icons are copyrighed materials (blizzard) so i don't think it could be printed.
On June 19 2007 01:44 DJEtterStyle wrote: I'm not actually going to design a shirt, but I do have some things that the shirt designers should consider if they want their shirts to be worn in public by a single member of TL--and if they want to receive my unique variety of support when judging comes around (not that I have any clout whatsoever in the decision-making process, but I will, with an invisible hand, influence those that do).
Team Liquid? Kind of a cool name. TeamLiquid.net? A URL--suddenly not so cool.
A graphic that looks attractive and is only vaguely identifiable as being a biproduct of StarCraft (a pylon, for instance)? Excellent. The actual word "StarCraft" appearing on a shirt? Not so excellent.
Korean characters? Could be cool if used properly. Dorky inside jokes? Not so much.
As a rule of thumb, small graphics are better than large ones, and an image without text is better than an image with text. A small "TeamLiquid" just below the neckline on the back of the shirt is better than a large "TEAM LIQUID" on the front of the shirt.
And the Sandlot horse is gay. There can be no debate on this. ^^
Word for word, my thoughts exactly. Thank you. I'll buy a shirt as long as it doesn' t scream "I'm a nerd" if I were to wear it.
Wow, there are some nice designs here. I really like me_lee's version, the one with the pony (Zelniq's?), and the simple designs from Sandlot. I also love the one with the marine and the shield battery icon. I agree that each side should be either pictures or text, generally not both. But I'd definitely buy any of the ones I mentioned.
I also like Strawberry's design, but it sounds like the placement of the graphics that you used might not be feasible. I love the use of the stimpack logo (copyrights be damned, we're marketing their game, Blizzard can kiss my ass). Maybe we could do a design like that with the stimpack logo on the front, and then put some relevant text on the back (like the "rock and roll", or maybe "that's the stuff").
I REALLY REALLY REALLY like the monochrome horses, especially if they went all around the bottom, but I believe they're copyrighted. A long time ago I think there was a thread where we google searched the image, and the exact mirror image came up in a painting.
Regardless, here is my idea:
Only low quality version, sorry, but removed the Starcraft icons (more copyright issues...and for aesthetic reasons) and moved the logo slightly upwards.
EDIT: Oh, and my photoshop skills aren't spectacular, but if anyone could photoshop a Chinese flag into the flags, that would be nice >_>
midas wears a bootlegged Stim shirt on national TV in the middle of Starcraft central ... but i can't make a t-shirt for a forum in fear of blizzard attack T_T
gg for me. maybe i'll make this into a desktop wallpaper, but for now i'll huddle in my corner and mourn the premature death of my design.
I've read a lot of the posts in here and I've just got a few questions. Although I do agree with the no words saying starcraft, why would the inside jokes or something like me gosu not pass? Who cares if other people don't get it.
The entire reason for doing this I thought was for OUR community, not to appease those around us. The horse isn't gay, its part of who we are. I would probably buy and wear anything that was made, just because it is fun to be apart of this community.
Great job to all the designers, keep them coming.
Smurgs last one looks really sweet, and fantas is just down right hilarious. Is there a possibility maybe there can be a couple different tshirts for the final winners, give us a little variety, or for people like me give me a new wardrobe :D
Could someone find a way to make a high-res, usable version of these designs I came up with using JellyCat's logos? I obviously just used MS Paint to copy past some images just to come up with a basic layout/design, it'd be cool to see how it'd look if it was done properly by someone who knows what they're doing. Ideally, just an more polished version of the images with possibly a change in font for the text as well.
Reasons I like this one (aside from the fact that I suggested it):
1. Relatively simple and in only two colors (shirt color included). This could allow for different colored shirts just by changing the image outlines to white or any other color.
2. I feel like these logos, by being simpler than say the final logo with the scarfed horse, would also make the shirt easier to wear by those who are afraid of wearing something that is too obviously nerdy. The more elaborate the image, the more hardcore we appear in our fandom, which may or may not appeal to some.
3. It has SC and TL.net references without using any copyrighted images (unless JellyCat has done so recently).
if you were to set them on individual orders.. you have some sort of website for that?? BTW i like the Me Gosu and the first one with the horses the best
On June 19 2007 02:49 d4d wrote: Repost of my post here cause it seem to still be useful. Even tho if it is supposed to be a cafepress product, then it goes down the crappy shirt line (bad printing). We have contact in california for silk printing at about 20$ a pop for 2 colors if my memory is good (with good quality color t-shirt included)
Many very good things in this thread so far.
I also want to ask again for an high res version of the sandlot logo. Cause I want to try myself at it...
Okay, let me step in just a sec here, to let you share some pointers about making a good T-shirt.
There are many ways to print a shirt nowadays, most of them are crappy or expensive. By crappy I mean glued to the shirt computer print, fading illustration color and so on.
We don't want a crappy shirt for TL, do we ?
What we want is silk screening. Silk screening is the most resistant and the best looking impression you can get on a shirt. But there is a twist to silk screening. You can only print plain colors. and few of them.
So while designing your t-shirt idea, you must focus on that.
Examples :
This was the design of the drone for the scg t-shirt, it was never done because it featured 4 colors, and was too expensive to produce.
Now this :
This is a great great design, but unfortunately, it would do for a crappy t-shirt. Why ? Because silk screening is impossible with that much colors (or way to expensive). So if we were to choose this design (or this, this, and this), we would be stuck with a great idea but a crappy shirt.
Think 2 colors, or 3 colors, including the t-shirt color (1 or 2 color for ink if you prefer) Design like that are perfect (not in a matter of taste but in a practical way.) :
(well definitely not in a matter of taste for the latter)
Anyways, I hope you get my points folks. There is no need to get all worked up for a design that is only possible in our dreams. Think simple.
One more thing.
As I implied it earlier, on silk screening printed shirt, there is one "free" color. That is the actual shirt color. White is an easy choice, black is too.. But come on, folks are we followers or leaders? Everyone does a black or a white t-shirt.... we want Burgundy, Royal Blue or Citrus Yellow.
Something that stand out and says, TEAM LIQUID IS REALLY GREAT. We don't want your average middle ground sports club, black and red crappy slogan that end up on the bottom of your t-shirt pile, never to be wear anywhere but in gaming conventions full of nerd.
We want a t-shirt Rekrul can wear in an exquisite Vegas VIP lounge. We want a t-shirt Mani can wear at work and still get proposed free sex by his female students. We want a t-shirt that could make CharlieMurphy look funny and bright. We want a t-shirt that would make Stimey weep for his lost playground. We want a t-shirt even Hot Bid could not find a joke about.... And finally, a t-shirt that would ADD to the coolness of PuertoRican.
That's all folks
WELL FREAKING SAID. Like I said earlier, less is more. I would rather have a quality shirt with a simpleness to it then a beautiful but low quality shirt.
On June 18 2007 20:36 Zelniq wrote: how do i change the DPI w/ photoshop? i looked thru the options, couldnt find anything right clicking --> properties --> summary tells me my images are only 72 DPI.....
When you start a new document change the resolution from 72 to 200.
Having high DPI is important for printing since that would effect the quality of the graphic.
To everyone, I found a nice little article explaining this clearly in detail. Click
im assuming you meant 2000x2000, but I'm still a bit lost, what's wrong with my picture there? according to the article, if I understood it right I'm not supposed to change the image size, just make sure it's set to 200 dpi, which it is (for some reason it rounded to 199). and my logo is no bigger than 150 pixels on either side, so that works, right? this is the pic im talking about:
and I still would like to know what website the shirts are planned to be ordered from, or am I just blind and has that been mentioned already
Cafepress print quality is very cheap and colors fade away into the cloth, it wears badly too. But it's convenient because you can single order from you home. And it's actually you know... kinda ok for your average mom. (Read; Aunt Susy special t-shirt with a picture of Sundoll, her beagle).
The real deal I defended up in the thread, silk screening, involves actual ink and press. Not just a printer. Companies can't take the risk to print few (most have 6 piece minimum per type of shirt), but it's cheaper than cafepress with few colors (1-2) (cafepress you can print many colors, they look like shit anyway, pardon my french). And they handle the money transaction too.
Silk screen printed t-shirt (read; the one James Bond would notice on Strafe as good taste) mean to get on the phone with a company, place an order for some K$, receive the goods home and after that dispatch the shirts all over the states and the world to TL.netter. Or just give them away at events, like blizzcon and wcg. If you want to sell it online, it then also means finding a way to make money transaction ourselves, which is a super neat task. There is a lot of work involved to obtain that gosuness quality of a printing. So I'll understand if we pass... I am willing to help, but I can't front 3-4k$ and I don't live in the states...
The only one id consider wearing is fanta's one. The rest either have wayyyy too much on them, look too dorky/sci-fi ish or are just plain ugly. No offense of course =p
and i really, really, REALLY hate the goddamn sandlot logo
As I implied it earlier, on silk screening printed shirt, there is one "free" color. That is the actual shirt color. White is an easy choice, black is too.. But come on, folks are we followers or leaders? Everyone does a black or a white t-shirt.... we want Burgundy, Royal Blue or Citrus Yellow.
I just read through this entire thread (took a long while). Here is what I Have to add before I submit my own artwork/design.
The sandlot logo is stupid as hell. I couldn't see Jimney Crickets post because Imageshack sucks (use tinypic) I agree with the TeamLiquid without the .net Front only, back will cost more. shirts with 2 sides are lame imo. Every shirt posted so far was pretty boring. I want a shirt that has action or motion to it. I wouldn't buy any of the shirts so far. All you guys are just copy/pasting shit. 10x10 Is kind of restricting can't fit much into that. Jpeg/JPG do not work when converting to silk screen you must use PNG or TIF.
That being said let me draw up some shit. I'll post it here maybe later or tomorrow. I suck with photoshop so I'll be drawing it on paper and scanning it.
CustomInk, DesignAShirt, The Shirt Printer and Expert shirt all require 6 orders minimum bulk ordering.
Zazzle doesn't have screen priting as an option and is more expensive.
UberPrints requires 12 orders minimum for screen printing. Also more expensive.
Spreadshirt has flex/flock and digital printing. I'm unsure about the quality of this. This might be an option. The design specs are pretty similar. No pocket placement for this though. Back side will only be text. Front side can span for most of the height and width of the shirt.
mr d4d, do you know anything about flex/flock priting in terms of the quality?
ArtApart. Screen priting requires at least 24 orders.
One thing I worry about with the screen prints is that it might get screwed up if tl people dont take care of their tl shirts. How many of you actually read the care instructions and follow them? Do you make sure to turn your shirts inside out especially when the design is screen printed? High quality shirts means you need to take care of it more.
ie: # Washing Instructions: Turn item inside-out before washing # Machine wash warm, 40°C recommended, 60°C possible # Only use detergent without supplementary bleach or softener # Not suited for tumble drying # Do not iron the imprint
Poll: Are you careful about washing your clothing? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): Sometimes
Also another thing to note is that trying to do design for the entire shirt is not as easy as drawing design into a shirt outline in photoshop (especially with different sizes and different types of clothing) just because dimensions change per size and per item.
All I'm gonna say is... for all those people who are wanting some kind of sci-fi, very StarCraftish theme going on with a clear reference to the actual website or to StarCraft itself, and you actually think you're going to wear that outside of a LAN, I don't wanna see any more "girl problem" threads from you
hope this can be helpful.. im still working on the flags.. but im a little bit busy this week (WCG finals yay!) so if anyone want to finish the work pm me, and ill send the psd..
on a side note.. im working on my entry, somekind of vintage stuff.. hopefully i will finish it before the deadline
PS: i cant really complaint about cafepress.. i have printed 2 designs (some dev/geek stuff, and a vector art to my ex gf) and they still are "good"
On June 19 2007 14:02 pheer wrote: The horse is cute and all, but who the hell would wear it proudly? It would be in my closet like my protoss shirt :<
I would wear it outside.
Edit - Should note, my GF and all our friends already know I'm a huge nerd, so it's not like I have anything to lose.
Fanta, make me proud please. Come up with some original stuff
Also it might be useful to make a poll about how much tl.netters are willing to spend on a t-shirt when it looks good. And to work with pre-orders so that you take less risk.
On June 19 2007 14:20 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Also it might be useful to make a poll about how much tl.netters are willing to spend on a t-shirt when it looks good. And to work with pre-orders so that you take less risk.
All that stuff is secondary... need to have a design picked out first, and THEN that stuff will come into play. ^_^
On June 19 2007 13:45 Orlandu wrote: All I'm gonna say is... for all those people who are wanting some kind of sci-fi, very StarCraftish theme going on with a clear reference to the actual website or to StarCraft itself, and you actually think you're going to wear that outside of a LAN, I don't wanna see any more "girl problem" threads from you
Yeah if people keep coming up with the same designs over and over picking a design will be the most difficult;(
So far I have seen Smurg, that tl.net donkey in 100 posts slightly altered and those 3 retarded starcraft figures which don't look good and have absolutely nothing to do with tl.net
In my experience flex print is very very fragile yes. It look stunning new, but washes literally away.
And cafepress does not do silk screening, they do direct printing and heat transfer, direct printing being the lesser evil.
As for washing instructions, silk screening is the most sturdy of the process, as it only cracks when worn, Direct printing weather away quick, heat transfer whitened and flex print tattered
Why would you not silk screen this design? That heat press shit sucks its only for when you are making 1 or 2 shirts. Heatpress you can get as many colors as you want also its only silk screen that is less colors. Since you will be ordering in bulk I don't see why not.
ps
What do you guys think of letters like this? (its just a rough draft on paint)
On June 19 2007 14:27 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Yeah if people keep coming up with the same designs over and over picking a design will be the most difficult;(
So far I have seen Smurg, that tl.net donkey in 100 posts slightly altered and those 3 retarded starcraft figures which don't look good and have absolutely nothing to do with tl.net
I already stated I have 0 experience with photoshop. However I often see great works made by tl.net flying around on this forum, so I really wonder why none of that has been posted in this thread so far. I like more people like Smurg to give it an actual try. Remember the thread where Suffeli photoshopped random people into awesomeness? God That guy worked wonders with photoshop. Also I believe Hot_Bid is supposed to be funny and good with photoshop and when I asked Fanta for help he instantly created me something out of the blue that looked pretty decent. All these guys have been absent till now and all we got to see was bullshit
i dont know why i posted so many damn designs of the same crap that I don't even really like. im waiting for someone to make some kickass design and everyone will pick that one
On June 19 2007 14:42 mnm wrote: I KNOW SILK SCREENING IS BEST BUT I AM NOT ORDERING IN BULK.
lol, how do you know. Once we pick up a design you could take all the pre-orders and maybe order in bulk (might be cheaper that way anyways) Quality is the most important thing don't you think?
On June 19 2007 14:42 mnm wrote: I KNOW SILK SCREENING IS BEST BUT I AM NOT ORDERING IN BULK.
lol, how do you know. Once we pick up a design you could take all the pre-orders and maybe order in bulk (might be cheaper that way anyways) Quality is the most important thing don't you think?
On June 19 2007 14:42 mnm wrote: I KNOW SILK SCREENING IS BEST BUT I AM NOT ORDERING IN BULK.
lol, how do you know. Once we pick up a design you could take all the pre-orders and maybe order in bulk (might be cheaper that way anyways) Quality is the most important thing don't you think?
On June 19 2007 14:37 {ToT}Strafe wrote: I already stated I have 0 experience with photoshop. However I often see great works made by tl.net flying around on this forum, so I really wonder why none of that has been posted in this thread so far. I like more people like Smurg to give it an actual try. Remember the thread where Suffeli photoshopped random people into awesomeness? God That guy worked wonders with photoshop. Also I believe Hot_Bid is supposed to be funny and good with photoshop and when I asked Fanta for help he instantly created me something out of the blue that looked pretty decent. All these guys have been absent till now and all we got to see was bullshit
Suffeli is on the graphics team and yeah he's very good, I'll PM him. He's been pretty unactive recently though.
On June 19 2007 14:37 {ToT}Strafe wrote: I already stated I have 0 experience with photoshop. However I often see great works made by tl.net flying around on this forum, so I really wonder why none of that has been posted in this thread so far. I like more people like Smurg to give it an actual try. Remember the thread where Suffeli photoshopped random people into awesomeness? God That guy worked wonders with photoshop. Also I believe Hot_Bid is supposed to be funny and good with photoshop and when I asked Fanta for help he instantly created me something out of the blue that looked pretty decent. All these guys have been absent till now and all we got to see was bullshit
I think [angst]chraej or something is also very good with photoshop. So far I like Smurg's best. Especially his first one.
On June 19 2007 14:42 mnm wrote: I KNOW SILK SCREENING IS BEST BUT I AM NOT ORDERING IN BULK.
lol, how do you know. Once we pick up a design you could take all the pre-orders and maybe order in bulk (might be cheaper that way anyways) Quality is the most important thing don't you think?
How could she not know if she herself is not going to order in bulk? I'm not sure if you understand that the site is not going to take a mass order from members, have them printed and sent to one location, to then be distributed by someone (definitely not mnm). The whole reason Cafepress is being suggested is because it sets it up so that each person can order their own shirt after the shirt has been designed. The site not only takes your design and makes shirts from it, it also serves as an online shop from where these shirts can then be ordered.
As made clear by mnm numerous times already, we are NOT going to be ordering these shirts in bulk unless someone is willing to put up the money for a mass order and then distribute the shirts to each individual member who ordered one on their own time. No one on the staff is willing to do this, and I highly doubt any members would be either.
Ordering in bulk really isnt feasible for a site like this. Its a fairly large community, but this site doesnt really generate the income for these sorts of expenditures (like SomethingAwful), and most of its staff are from all over the world and working on different sorts of schedules.
On June 19 2007 14:42 mnm wrote: I KNOW SILK SCREENING IS BEST BUT I AM NOT ORDERING IN BULK.
lol, how do you know. Once we pick up a design you could take all the pre-orders and maybe order in bulk (might be cheaper that way anyways) Quality is the most important thing don't you think?
How could she not know if she herself is not going to order in bulk? I'm not sure if you understand that the site is not going to take a mass order from members, have them printed and sent to one location, to then be distributed by someone (definitely not mnm). The whole reason Cafepress is being suggested is because it sets it up so that each person can order their own shirt after the shirt has been designed. The site not only takes your design and makes shirts from it, it also serves as an online shop from where these shirts can then be ordered.
As made clear by mnm numerous times already, we are NOT going to be ordering these shirts in bulk unless someone is willing to put up the money for a mass order and then distribute the shirts to each individual member who ordered one on their own time. No one on the staff is willing to do this, and I highly doubt any members would be either.
I already said I would be down to do this in another thread.
On June 19 2007 16:19 CharlieMurphy wrote: If its my money on the line how can you not trust me to come through?
Well, not to say you are trustworthy or not trustworthy, there are more things involved other than money.
For instance, we would have to trust that you would get the shirts, and then mail every one of them out to everyone all over the world. Just like when you are buying something from any online store, you have to place trust in them that they would send you what you want, right? In our case, you are that store, and we are the consumers.
On June 19 2007 14:45 mnm wrote: Do you want to buy in bulk, take orders, distribute and get payments from around the world?
That is the right question I guess.
What I can do to help is :
Provide technical help in dealing with printer, i am not a graphist myself but I have a few in my phonebook and I am used to silk screening. My father was a printer, I can get the file perfectly proper and check an art approval
Help with distribution during WCG (big meet up with envelopes anyone ?)
If we print 200 piece we'll be sold out by then. After blizzcon and WCG direct sale.
What I can't do to help :
The money (200 pieces, 1 color, front, quality shirt ~2000-3000$) The delivery address The distribution in Blizzcon The payments
What I can't see how it can be solved with ease :
The payments
There is no way around it. Ship it international we can, but gather the money it is a whole different level of shit. I see no way. unless it is only sold hand-by-hand.
Sorry I ever brought silk screening up folks. I'm just a sucker for t-shirts
On June 19 2007 14:42 mnm wrote: I KNOW SILK SCREENING IS BEST BUT I AM NOT ORDERING IN BULK.
lol, how do you know. Once we pick up a design you could take all the pre-orders and maybe order in bulk (might be cheaper that way anyways) Quality is the most important thing don't you think?
How could she not know if she herself is not going to order in bulk? I'm not sure if you understand that the site is not going to take a mass order from members, have them printed and sent to one location, to then be distributed by someone (definitely not mnm). The whole reason Cafepress is being suggested is because it sets it up so that each person can order their own shirt after the shirt has been designed. The site not only takes your design and makes shirts from it, it also serves as an online shop from where these shirts can then be ordered.
As made clear by mnm numerous times already, we are NOT going to be ordering these shirts in bulk unless someone is willing to put up the money for a mass order and then distribute the shirts to each individual member who ordered one on their own time. No one on the staff is willing to do this, and I highly doubt any members would be either.
On June 19 2007 16:19 CharlieMurphy wrote: If its my money on the line how can you not trust me to come through?
Well, not to say you are trustworthy or not trustworthy, there are more things involved other than money.
For instance, we would have to trust that you would get the shirts, and then mail every one of them out to everyone all over the world. Just like when you are buying something from any online store, you have to place trust in them that they would send you what you want, right? In our case, you are that store, and we are the consumers.
I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do.
Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either. Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.). TL takes their cut. Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
On June 19 2007 16:19 CharlieMurphy wrote: If its my money on the line how can you not trust me to come through?
Well, not to say you are trustworthy or not trustworthy, there are more things involved other than money.
For instance, we would have to trust that you would get the shirts, and then mail every one of them out to everyone all over the world. Just like when you are buying something from any online store, you have to place trust in them that they would send you what you want, right? In our case, you are that store, and we are the consumers.
I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do.
Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either. Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.). TL takes their cut. Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
My post was directed towards the "trust" part
edit:
Right, no one is saying that this is going to be hard, but as CyRiC has said, this is about trust, and this is why only a forum moderator should do it.
agreed, i don't want some futuristic crazy looking front-back gaudy shirt. this design is simple, cute, and meaningful. please include this in your final sales!
On June 19 2007 16:51 CharlieMurphy wrote: I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do.
Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either. Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.). TL takes their cut. Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
Some things I think we need for anyone to consider being the "Store Running Member":
1. Be willing to front the money for bulk order. 2. Be willing to have bulk order delivered to you. 3. Be willing to then "sell" the shirts to members without making a profit (i.e. sell at cost + shipping) 4. Be able to collect payment of money in a way that people feel safe transmitting their money through. I don't buy things online very often, so I'm not sure how Paypal works in terms of transferring funds only when the goods are shipped. 5. Find a way to deliver the shirts to members around the world that wouldn't be more expensive than them ordering them directly from Cafepress. From what I understand, using Ebay would add some fees to this? I'm not sure where Cafepress ships the shirts from, but if shipping them from CharlieMurphy's (or whoever volunteers) location costs more, then I see another additional cost.
As far as I know, TL.net doesn't plan on profiting from this venture, so we wouldn't be taking a cut. Aside from that, I still think the best way to go would be with Cafepress. The shirts are relatively cheap (so long as our design is simple) which makes them more affordable to our members and also allows them to order more in case they want more or the one they got gets worn out, the site offers up its own shop service so that no one has to go through the hassle of playing merchant (and thus potentially getting screwed if people are slow to/don't pay or change their minds about buying a shirt), the site appears trustworthy and easy to use, and it'd be easy to make more designs later if it goes well.
You also need to be able to cope with high demand (in case demand is high). Have a quick turn around time (from receiving, to packaging, to shipping). And be responsible for any lost orders, take complaints, have a secure way of taking orders and making sure you are thorough in getting all information, and be around to accept orders for the rest of your life.
Big diff between our tshirt selling strategy and gosugamers is that they sold 40 shirts in bulk at one time at one event. We intend to find a solution that will provide shirts for tl long term, to everyone interested, everywhere.
Yeah, another thing I forgot to mention is that people have to somehow trust this person enough to provide them with personal information like their home address. I don't know about other members, but I'm not comfortable giving that information to just anyone on the Internet.
Oh and PLEASE people, stop posting those sandlot logo t-shirts all over the place unless you post a HIGH RESOLUTION version of it. All of those you posted will look incredible blurry, bad and small on a T-Shirt.
# CharlieMurphy I dont like that "TL". Its not exactly flashy, but its like its trying to prove something. Might be something junior high kids would like.
The best by far, is melee's 1st one. The second one is ruined by the "me gosu" at the bottom. If you get around to making that shirt, PM me, and ship it.
The other shirts with the graphics don't work. Graphics on a shirt have to be done right or not at all. Otherwise, you're just wearing a wolf shirt. + Show Spoiler +
Don Juan (Exalted) says... You would not believe the pussy I pull in this thing.
Ol Tripod says... This shirt is excellent for pulling in husky Native American bitches with diabetes.
Tomash says... My power has increased 100 fold with the addition of this shirt to my already vast aresenal of wolf shirts.
On June 19 2007 16:51 CharlieMurphy wrote: I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do.
Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either. Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.). TL takes their cut. Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
Some things I think we need for anyone to consider being the "Store Running Member":
1. Be willing to front the money for bulk order. 2. Be willing to have bulk order delivered to you. 3. Be willing to then "sell" the shirts to members without making a profit (i.e. sell at cost + shipping) 4. Be able to collect payment of money in a way that people feel safe transmitting their money through. I don't buy things online very often, so I'm not sure how Paypal works in terms of transferring funds only when the goods are shipped. 5. Find a way to deliver the shirts to members around the world that wouldn't be more expensive than them ordering them directly from Cafepress. From what I understand, using Ebay would add some fees to this? I'm not sure where Cafepress ships the shirts from, but if shipping them from CharlieMurphy's (or whoever volunteers) location costs more, then I see another additional cost.
As far as I know, TL.net doesn't plan on profiting from this venture, so we wouldn't be taking a cut. Aside from that, I still think the best way to go would be with Cafepress. The shirts are relatively cheap (so long as our design is simple) which makes them more affordable to our members and also allows them to order more in case they want more or the one they got gets worn out, the site offers up its own shop service so that no one has to go through the hassle of playing merchant (and thus potentially getting screwed if people are slow to/don't pay or change their minds about buying a shirt), the site appears trustworthy and easy to use, and it'd be easy to make more designs later if it goes well.
I think if people really want to go with a design that requires a bulk order, I think we could find a way to do it. For example, I don't think any one person would want to order 100s of shirts up front, but I don't think any site requires order sizes of that many. While it's hard to judge demand, I think we could probably use a few volunteers who could each handle a certain chunk of the shirts. For example, I'd be willing to front the cash for 25-40 or so shirts, assuming there was enough interest expressed to me beforehand. It's not too bad, just buy a bunch of t-shirts mailers and print up labels when people send me their addresses... don't even have to go to the post office since the mailman comes to my office every day, and I can do postage online if I want. Lots of people spend a lot more time doing things for this site that this would require.
People can trust me or not, but I'm not really going to bother trying to scam people out of a few dollars (especially since I am out the few hundred at the beginning and need people to pay me back to recoup the costs.. and oh I have a job, etc.). If people want, I can have a few people pay me at a time at first and then I'll ship the shirts as the money arrives, so I'm never in possession of too much money without providing the merchandise. Honestly, having TL pissed off at me could be geniuinely bad given how much personal information I've divulged over the years on here.
Oh yeah, and I will have to get over my hatred of Paypal. Ohhh I hate them so... but that's no big deal.
I also think having a few people act as middlemen is better because I don't think it's cost effective for me to ship individual shirts out of country (e.g. Europe, Korea). We could have a few volunteers in different areas, maybe 2-3 for the US, one in Europe, one in Korea.
Again, this is all if we end up with a design where it makes more sense to get them printed at a place that has a minimum order. If we can do it on an individual basis, that's great too.
Some really nice designs in this thread. Nice work guys!
I actually like every design that's been posted in one way or another. Keep the creative juices flowing. The last couple pages have some really nice, simple, refined designs.
On June 19 2007 17:55 fanta[Rn] wrote: Oh and PLEASE people, stop posting those sandlot logo t-shirts all over the place unless you post a HIGH RESOLUTION version of it. All of those you posted will look incredible blurry, bad and small on a T-Shirt.
T-T like i said before... i have been working on THIS!!,only need the flags.. i CANT finish it.. but ill be glad to send someone the PSD file..
Ok, Seeing as some people couldnt see the first one I posted, here it is :
I moved the logos around to fit the layout thats needed:
The back is still the same.
I know these arent to standard with the size/ dpi etc, But im not too sure how to change it. It might not be possible considering I based the design off this low res image.
What I ask is A) Is it possible to make high res, etc? and B) Is it good enough to go through the work making it high res?
Dealing with Cafepress will give us an easy, reliable system to deal with the logistics of distribution. Despite the best intentions of some of our members, it is best that we stick with this plan so that shirts will be readily available to anyone that wants one.
We should let this issue rest now and continue on with brainstorming awesome tshirt ideas!
I like both of these. And like Clutch, I am also willing to front the money for a bulk of the shirts. Seriously, if anyone can make this happen, I will even be willing to buy a large number of these for myself.
I just don't want anything too "geeky" like pylon quotes or "Source to SC" or anything like that. Simple Team Liquid logo and a decal will do it for me. Anything too fancy is just overkill. No offense to anyone, but I don't even like the SandLot logo... unless that was the only thing on the shirt.
On June 19 2007 22:09 Hot_Bid wrote: if we're going to mention starcraft or .net in the shirt why not just put a pic up of darkelf or hiya[fou] 10x10 on the front of the shirt
agreed, i don't want some futuristic crazy looking front-back gaudy shirt. this design is simple, cute, and meaningful. please include this in your final sales!
oh man there's some crazy good vector tracers over on the SA forums constantly posting stuff, maybe if we're really lucky we'll get someone to do some vector traces
yeah my opinion of all those who said they hated the sandlot logo went down because they it was gay or didnt want to be seen in it, comeon have some pride instead of embarassment over TL!
I like that one from KizZBG with the 3 icons and teamliquid. There other really good ones I saw came from mel_ee (me gosu shirt), and Zelniq (dark blue 3 race icon, avalanche horses back). I am even ok with a horse logo on the shirt, as long as it isn't the sandlot horse. Regardless of what anyone else says, a pony with a multicolor rainbow scarf and kid scribbled letters is too gay to be worn in public.
Okay here we go for a cafepress tips to extract the best out of digital printing.
Please note that examples are not taken there for taste (unless directly said otherwise) but for technical reasons. In order for the final shirt to be the best.
This is a reverse post of the one I made praising the silk screening.
So direct printing.
Much like your inkjet at home, paint is sprayed on the fiber.
What does that mean for the design ?
1. No dark color shirt
Forget black, deep blue and other dark colors for the t-shirt
2. Any print color except for black is out on colored shirt
Even for light blue or yellow. Because of the direct printing process, if you design something on a light colored shirt, make sure the only color you use is black.
3. On White any color goes except light and yellow.
No pastels, ladies.
Say if you want something light blue, forget about it and get it deep blue.
Light color do not stand out well on direct printing, because they fade faster into the cloth. Pale things look nice on the screen, but they are just... pale on clothes.
Try to use dither to achieve light color. Better have dark points spread apart than a whole surface of light blue.
Try to avoid yellow, as it will very rapidly be mistaken for "stained" after your shirt has been washed. I must add this is the only technical thing that make me go "arf" on Fanta design :
Ok you have a 10'X10' square to make your design. but it doesn't mean you have to fill it all with stuff. Explode your design. It can be shaped like a square, but please, make us forget it.
I know this has been said earlier in the thread, but it need to be cleared up.
There is no way we can currently use the sandlot logo for a shirt as we do not have a high definition version of it. It look nice on preview jpg on your screen, but it just isn't happening yet. zXk3 has been working on a vectorized version of the logo, but as you see it isn't finished yet and it lose a lot of the details in the process. (like the unit shadow who suddenly aren't that obvious anymore).
So keep your shirt on and wait for a high definition post of the logo either by JellyCat himself or by someone else. But once we have a high def version of it, it can be used full color (the flag) on direct printing. (tho I recommend a darker blue for the main color)
great post d4d! The thing is.. If i make those things another color nobody will get that those are ment to be interceptors :O. Any idea for a better color?
Btw, the vector version of the sandlot logo looks even better to me.
On June 20 2007 05:59 Hot_Bid wrote: i honestly would just wear a nice shirt with the words "team liquid" on the front in a good but not too flashy font
it doesn't have to be elaborate or have quotes or have anything on the back
On June 20 2007 02:30 .kaz wrote: What about hoodies? Long sleeved? Darker colors? Not everyone is going to want a white and blue shirt.
Quoting myself for an answer, in my experiance the people that play games alot are usually 35% goth / emo or something of the sort, and don't like wearing white shirts. That or it's very cold where they live and they would like a hoodie or long sleeved shirt more than just a T-shirt. Will these be available through the site, but cost more to the buyer?
Edit: I know alot of people keep saying no black, and that's fine with me, but what is the reason for this? Does the price go up alot? If so, wouldn't it be up to the shirt purchaser and not the site? I think it would be best to vote on a design, and allow us to decide what we want it on. If you see anything faulty about this post, please reply with your opinion or some facts .
hey guys, fyi, im highly considering spreadshirt.com as well (might be better for international buying). im tinkering with the options right now. my research is taking longer than i had expected that's why i didn't specify which site i would be using in my first post. i've narrowed it down between cafepress and spreadshirt though. if we go with spreadshirt, we will have it printed in flex or flock. i've heard their shirts are good quality. im just very cautious about how well tl ppl will treat their shirts.
quote from shirt forum guy on flex/flock:
"Basically flex is a smooth material and flock is a "fuzzy" material like the 80's t-shirts. Almost like felt.
Neither is printed on. They are actually cut pieces of solid material. So if your design has "fades" or "gradients", it wouldn't work with flex or flock. If your design is 1-2 solid colors, I think this would be your best option."
spreadshirt does give me more options as well in terms of color, etc.
design specs should work for both sites. i say keep it plain. i believe they say best is 300 dpi, 1800x1800. The designs must be in vector graphics, eps format. im also worried that we would be cutting down on number of designers if we ask for vector artwork since less people know how to work with that.
more specs: - all visible elements of your design are at least 1.5 mm (0.06 inches), - space in between should not be smaller than 1 mm (0.04 inches), - text must have a minimum size of 10 mm (0.4 inches), - the complete design must not be larger than 30 x 30 cm (11.8 x 11.8 inches). We recommend a general size of 22.5 x 22.5 cm (8.86 x 8.86 inches).
if you want to discuss cafepress vs spreadshirt, please pm me so that we don't clutter up this thread with discussion on it. i should make a final decision soon.
The blue one is just perfect, doesnt need to be more then this. Looks great and this is actually something most of the people who buy it would wear in public, which doesnt really apply to most of the others. 10/10
On June 19 2007 17:55 fanta[Rn] wrote: Oh and PLEASE people, stop posting those sandlot logo t-shirts all over the place unless you post a HIGH RESOLUTION version of it. All of those you posted will look incredible blurry, bad and small on a T-Shirt.
T-T like i said before... i have been working on THIS!!,only need the flags.. i CANT finish it.. but ill be glad to send someone the PSD file..
Still working in another entry..
wow I didn't even notice the shit around the pony's feet was unit silhouettes . I thought it was just random grass.
Edit - Pony is still gay though. All you people trying to justify it by saying the wearer is gay not the design, NO. I wouldn't wear a fucking pony shirt ever even if it was a symbol of manliness (which it is not). If I ever saw anyone wearing a shirt with a pony on it I would instantly ridicule them and laugh even a girl. Ponies are fucking stupid animals to begin with, get a fucking horse, ponies are for little girls.
On June 19 2007 21:41 Wasabi wrote: I'm making the back of the shirt tomorrow, my Photoshop program crashed while doing it.
Zealot in front, and catchy quote.
Kinda like that, but lose the quotes and no back. Still there is a problem though, not everyone wants a zealot (you're being racist, lol)
On June 19 2007 19:02 KizZBG wrote:
That one looks like the sure fire winner, but I preferred the Lurker over the hydra. Lurkers are used more plus the hydra looks stupid as a silhouette because the claws hanging out in front and stuff. I would prefer a different font and color as well.
Cmon zerg users you agree with me right?
PS- Aren't these shirts copyright infringements since they use units?
Thats the jest of what I was going for, although I still think the logos should go over the text, and lurker silhouette looks better than the one for hydra.
One needs to consider placement and how itll look when the shirt is worn, and I just dont think the logos will look good right below my chest and on my ribs.
imo the 'sayings' are 'cool' now but they will lose meaning over time.. i dont think the tl people of 2020 will understand it =p. "teamliquid" is forever.
as an aside, i hope they keep hydras in starcraft 2
On June 19 2007 22:09 Hot_Bid wrote: if we're going to mention starcraft or .net in the shirt why not just put a pic up of darkelf or hiya[fou] 10x10 on the front of the shirt
shit, put a picture of child on there and i'll buy 100x
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Seriously, the heck? How can you not think of interceptors right after you see my design? We're a starcraft community, most of you love protoss, that's the first thing that has to come to your mind. The way those things are placed and their shape makes them exactly look like interceptors.
On June 19 2007 22:09 Hot_Bid wrote: if we're going to mention starcraft or .net in the shirt why not just put a pic up of darkelf or hiya[fou] 10x10 on the front of the shirt
shit, put a picture of child on there and i'll buy 100x
On June 20 2007 15:00 fanta[Rn] wrote: Seriously, the heck? How can you not think of interceptors right after you see my design? We're a starcraft community, most of you love protoss, that's the first thing that has to come to your mind. The way those things are placed and their shape makes them exactly look like interceptors.
lol, I dunno, but I thought they were leaves at first too.
Interceptors were the first thing that came to my head when I saw your shirt, Fana. I would buy the one with yellow interceptors, if its a front-only design. I'm not into anything back
I thought the interceptors were little Pacmen or yellow nail clippings. Guess I lack imagination.
P.S. I'm starting to think that we should go with a simple design as well. I like the idea of just having Team Liquid in some snazzy font with one SC unit icon (3 to choose from: P, Z, T). No back is necessary.
lil.sis the problem is the blue thing ruins the whole design idea actually I agree with Xadcyric, no back and keep it simple - no starcraft units though as it won't pass the blizzard-approvement.
On June 20 2007 15:59 fanta[Rn] wrote: lil.sis the problem is the blue thing ruins the whole design idea actually I agree with Xadcyric, no back and keep it simple - no starcraft units though as it won't pass the blizzard-approvement.
how does the blue ruin it? and didn't gosugamers have a shirt with a probe on it?
Are interceptors blue? Didn't someone say they had to stop selling those shirts because of copyright problems? Also mnm: you forgot to include TeamLiquid
On June 20 2007 15:59 fanta[Rn] wrote: lil.sis the problem is the blue thing ruins the whole design idea actually I agree with Xadcyric, no back and keep it simple - no starcraft units though as it won't pass the blizzard-approvement.
how does the blue ruin it? and didn't gosugamers have a shirt with a probe on it?
Yes, GG did have the Probe shirt, but they found out later that it was illegal, and Blizzard will not allow it. We've tried.
if this T-shirt buisness goes good, you should start making some hoodey's aswell. i just got this image in my head of me riding my bmx around town with this gorgeous (Spelling?) teamliquid hoodey on, fanta's design (intercepter one, yes i could tell it was an itercepter) in blue or black. eh
On June 20 2007 16:18 Metal[x] wrote: Interceptors are not blue, but they shoot blue balls/laser sphere thingies! ;D
personally i don't see this as a problem. 1) because it looks nice anyway and 2) starcraft 2 carriers have blue interceptors so it could be a reference to that instead of the traditional ones
guys i just came up with an idea. we can still do that bulk screen printing method IMO. a few people have come forward saying they would be happy to pay for and distribute the shirts when people buy them off them. the problem is, no staff members wanted to do this. in other words we have a trust issue. when everyone sends this mediator (bulk shirt buyer) their money, how do we know he's not going to just keep the money and not send out the shirts? well here's a solution i'll put forward. a staff member opens up a paypal account. payments (for shirts) are sent to that paypal account. when the money is recieved the mediator is given the go ahead to send the shirt to the payee. once the payee recieves the shirt, he lets the staff member know that he's got it, and then the staff member sends the payment to the mediator. what do you guys think?
this way we get the best quality shirts, as well very little risk.
On June 21 2007 00:54 L!MP wrote: guys i just came up with an idea. we can still do that bulk screen printing method IMO. a few people have come forward saying they would be happy to pay for and distribute the shirts when people buy them off them. the problem is, no staff members wanted to do this. in other words we have a trust issue. when everyone sends this mediator (bulk shirt buyer) their money, how do we know he's not going to just keep the money and not send out the shirts? well here's a solution i'll put forward. a staff member opens up a paypal account. payments (for shirts) are sent to that paypal account. when the money is recieved the mediator is given the go ahead to send the shirt to the payee. once the payee recieves the shirt, he lets the staff member know that he's got it, and then the staff member sends the payment to the mediator. what do you guys think?
this way we get the best quality shirts, as well very little risk.
On June 21 2007 00:54 L!MP wrote: guys i just came up with an idea. we can still do that bulk screen printing method IMO. a few people have come forward saying they would be happy to pay for and distribute the shirts when people buy them off them. the problem is, no staff members wanted to do this. in other words we have a trust issue. when everyone sends this mediator (bulk shirt buyer) their money, how do we know he's not going to just keep the money and not send out the shirts? well here's a solution i'll put forward. a staff member opens up a paypal account. payments (for shirts) are sent to that paypal account. when the money is recieved the mediator is given the go ahead to send the shirt to the payee. once the payee recieves the shirt, he lets the staff member know that he's got it, and then the staff member sends the payment to the mediator. what do you guys think?
this way we get the best quality shirts, as well very little risk.
The buyer would still be giving personal information (address, etc) to a person that you don't even trust with money.
Yeah the sandlot logo, even without the flags looks pretty neat. Although it wouldn't hurt to have a bit more detail to it. However, flags = more color so if we could maybe make monochrome flags? I know it sounds stupid but imagine like the UK's flag, Switzerland, Sweeden, Belgium, Italy, they are shaped different maybe there's a way to make them look cool by just altering the lines and shapes.
Also:
On June 20 2007 11:47 CharlieMurphy wrote: Edit - Pony is still gay though. All you people trying to justify it by saying the wearer is gay not the design, NO. I wouldn't wear a fucking pony shirt ever even if it was a symbol of manliness (which it is not). If I ever saw anyone wearing a shirt with a pony on it I would instantly ridicule them and laugh even a girl. Ponies are fucking stupid animals to begin with, get a fucking horse, ponies are for little girls.
Just because you have some childhood trauma involing ponies doesn't mean it's gay. If you would instantly ridicule and laugh at someone wearing that, it means you're an a**hole, it doesn't mean that sort of thing would happen to anyone wearing that. I bet you could find a way to justifty that you wouldn't wear a pink shirt, not because people will think you're gay, but because pink is an ugly color, and real people should use RED!
Some of us, well... most of us judging by the number of posts in this thread are not sexually confused, and would gladly wear that shirt in public. There were many designs presented, some of which I think are cool and some of which I really dislike. I wouldn't consider any of them gay, though, nor would I have difficulties wearing them in public, out of fear of being ridiculed.
Seriously, that part with "If I ever saw anyone wearing a shirt with a pony on it I would instantly ridicule them and laugh even a girl." is really pissing me off because I can't belive that people like you haven't died of natural selection yet. You should have been killed by a huge soda-drink-dispenser machine while you were tring to cheat your drink out of it by tilting it.
that is hot. hah the freshmaker? are we mentos? i am a little concerned about the texture treatment (especially if we end up using the same design for pocket designs on other apparel or even for buttons and such).
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are these shirts only going to be sold at blizzcon? cuz I know for sure I'm gonna want a T-shirt regardless of design, but I won't be able to attend blizzcon.
A few hours work sketch... not going to finish it if noone cares about it.
Fantastic design Suffeli! Very good job and the details are just great.
I've got two comments though :
- How does it look like when you don't have the kind of old lettering 'L' under the Q? Seems to me it's getting in the way of the fonts and isn't really justified anyway...
- Have you tried to change the shirt colour to see how it would look like with something else than blue under dark blue? It may add a little something to it and help the design to appear even more clearly (though it may not be a good idea from a printing perspective, I haven't read all d4d explanations in detail...)
KizzBG: A sec... my interned died and I have to change the design a bit to fit a white shirt.
mnm: The textures are really rough ( crap looking ) and that design is not going to work at very small sizes because it will reduce to unreadable pixel noise. That is why corporate logotypes and logos are very simple. If you clean it up and turn it to a nice solid vector art and forget crispy textures it might work. But it will require a lot of extra work... so...
suffelli I'd really really love your design if it's made out of cloth. Know what I mean? I think printed out it would lose alot of its charm. I'd buy that shirt in a shop anytime! Great design... I'd really love to know how to do such stuff :O
JellyCat: Oh sorry, I didn't notice your post. I'm glad you liked it! I'm always up for good criticism. The extra ornament that flourishes from the descender of the q is really sloppily put up. It is really not with the same style as the typeface. Since the bottom of the shield had some extra space and if I would have scaled it too much it would have looked squished so I quickly filled it up. It would have required too much work for a sketch to fine tune it so I quickly nailed down the basic shape. I'm not sure about the typeface choice itself... medieval gothic faces are getting overused todays. The colors are mostly matter of taste, but it could use some extra contrast, I agree.
Looks alright to me, I'd wear it. I think it would look better one 1 colour though and maybe a little bit of cleaning up like you said in a previous post.
On June 21 2007 17:14 suffeli wrote: JellyCat: Oh sorry, I didn't notice your post. I'm glad you liked it! I'm always up for good criticism. The extra ornament that flourishes from the descender of the q is really sloppily put up. It is really not with the same style as the typeface. Since the bottom of the shield had some extra space and if I would have scaled it too much it would have looked squished so I quickly filled it up. It would have required too much work for a sketch to fine tune it so I quickly nailed down the basic shape. I'm not sure about the typeface choice itself... medieval gothic faces are getting overused todays. The colors are mostly matter of taste, but it could use some extra contrast, I agree.
Oh and PLEASE people, stop posting those sandlot logo t-shirts all over the place unless you post a HIGH RESOLUTION version of it. All of those you posted will look incredible blurry, bad and small on a T-Shirt.
Oh and PLEASE people, stop posting those sandlot logo t-shirts all over the place unless you post a HIGH RESOLUTION version of it. All of those you posted will look incredible blurry, bad and small on a T-Shirt.
suffeli, that's awesome... just one thing though, i love in an out-of-place country. :'( When would these shirts be read by and whould you guys be shipping out? thanks!
A few hours work sketch... not going to finish it if noone cares about it.
Sorry I must bring that back. but I am going to die if I see that in direct printing.... That design is just screaming silk screening.
Sufferli, please stop submitting design, this is too goooooooood.
Ok my last opening of this thread. This is just too much for my old heart.
If this is selected as the final design, I am going to ask you for the psd file and silk print just one item for myself. (this one, with the turquoises shirt and the white print for the tl name.)
Fanta: It just requires a lot good photo resourced "grungy" images that you work to make masks. I photographed a gigs of different kinds of materials when I studied graphic design. Nowadays you can probably find some good free picture sites also. Hmm... basic knowledge of layers etc helps.
One more quick one. Not really a blue color scheme. A horse skull. Whatever.
On June 21 2007 13:46 gLyo wrote: This would have been cool one or two years ago, but not anymore. :|
Even so, it's probably the best design submitted so far, I think.
Fashion is different in the US I guess, but the design looks pretty normal, no? Care to explain what exactly you mean?
It looks like something anybody could pick up at Hollister, American Eagle, or Abercrombie. The distressed crest is very overused and played out, unfortunately. Distressing, in general, is very played out.
I think that the designs should tend towards something more timeless and unique, rather than trendy (especially a trend that's come and gone).
I don't mean to disparage the designer, because the designs are very proficient, I just don't think they suit TeamLiquid.
On June 21 2007 19:25 Hot_Bid wrote: can we even make a tshirt that looks that good from cafepress
no.
d4d can you quit it please. silk screening isn't feasible. can you maybe be more supportive about the path we have chosen and perhaps recommend ways people could work with direct printing? try to work with the bigger picture here.
On June 21 2007 19:25 Hot_Bid wrote: can we even make a tshirt that looks that good from cafepress
no.
d4d can you quit it please. silk screening isn't feasible. can you maybe be more supportive about the path we have chosen and perhaps recommend ways people could work with direct printing? try to work with the bigger picture here.
I am, I am dear... And, please, read up and notice that I did.
The answer to Hot_Bid question is no, and there is no way around it.
It need to be said, and clearly, and again, sufferli's work is not adaptable to direct printing. If no one say it, people will keep quoting his design with hope.
What do you want me to say?
Ok I brought up silk screening, but it was in my heart for the best of the community. But I also quickly explained the difficulties of silk screening and why it was hard to make it append. I posted a god damned guide on ways people can work with direct printing. And the bigger picture was always on my mind.
I am sorry you got angry because people got attracted by the idea of silk screening.
I'll stop sunning on your parade.
I'll also edit my answer to Hot_Bid to something politically correct.
i for one would be willing to pre-pay so that we can make silk screened shirts in bulk. we'd just need to get everyone who wants a shirt to do the same. the only problem is, no one would be able to get any in the future, if they miss this order. we'd just need to get a tally of people willing to do this. i'd even throw a couple extra bucks to whoever is organizing this. if everybody did the same that could be some considerable profit.
I rather pay 40$ for suffeli's shirt design in silk printing and be able to actualy wear it when i go out to a club or whatever, than pay 20$ for a direct printing shirt, and wear it at home. I can do a direct printing shirt myself for 10$ in a local store here that does stuff like that i just need the .jpg
So what im saying TL is all about quality and i think we all agree on this. So doing direct printing is just bellow TL's level. Just my two cents.
On June 19 2007 16:51 CharlieMurphy wrote: I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do.
Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either. Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.). TL takes their cut. Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
Some things I think we need for anyone to consider being the "Store Running Member":
1. Be willing to front the money for bulk order. 2. Be willing to have bulk order delivered to you. 3. Be willing to then "sell" the shirts to members without making a profit (i.e. sell at cost + shipping) 4. Be able to collect payment of money in a way that people feel safe transmitting their money through. I don't buy things online very often, so I'm not sure how Paypal works in terms of transferring funds only when the goods are shipped. 5. Find a way to deliver the shirts to members around the world that wouldn't be more expensive than them ordering them directly from Cafepress. From what I understand, using Ebay would add some fees to this? I'm not sure where Cafepress ships the shirts from, but if shipping them from CharlieMurphy's (or whoever volunteers) location costs more, then I see another additional cost.
As far as I know, TL.net doesn't plan on profiting from this venture, so we wouldn't be taking a cut. Aside from that, I still think the best way to go would be with Cafepress. The shirts are relatively cheap (so long as our design is simple) which makes them more affordable to our members and also allows them to order more in case they want more or the one they got gets worn out, the site offers up its own shop service so that no one has to go through the hassle of playing merchant (and thus potentially getting screwed if people are slow to/don't pay or change their minds about buying a shirt), the site appears trustworthy and easy to use, and it'd be easy to make more designs later if it goes well.
We are here.
It's not pre-paying 40$. It's more like 4'000$. And an address in the US. And a place to stock 200-400 shirt (that is a lot of place) And a way to cash in money. And mail each shirt at it's own time to it's rightful owner. And be trustable about the private information (addresses, credit card) + Show Spoiler +
TIGER TIGER TIGER
This is not happening as no one fulfilling all requirements has stepped up. Now move along people.
How to Deal with Depression When Mourning the Death of a Loved One. By: Lou LaGrand
Are you filled with despair and emptiness? Has life lost its meaning for you, and no one could possibly understand your feelings? Do you believe there is no future without your loved one? It is likely, if you are feeling this way that you are suffering from what is often called normal reactive depression. You are down and reacting because something or someone you cherish is gone.
We are not talking here about clinical or biochemical depression, although reactive depression can evolve into the clinical type. Depression from the loss of a loved one usually does not require medication, although in some instances it is prescribed, and is useful on a temporary basis. Here is what you need to know.
1. Not everyone gets depressed after the death of a loved one. It is perfectly normal not to suffer depression as it is to have to deal with it. However, after the death of a loved one, thoughts and attitudes often trigger loneliness and resulting depression, which occurs early in grieving. It features confusion, little motivation, altered self-esteem, lack of meaning, reduced functioning in one’s social circle, insomnia, and low energy.
2. If you are depressed, acknowledge it. Describe it in detail, where it hurts, and what it feels like. “What is the message or messages this emotion is delivering to me?” is an important question to address. What do I need to accept? To let go of? The refusal to accept the loss is often a root cause of depression. Depending on what you believe about your depression will lead to choices that either help you manage it, or prolong it.
3. Talk to your best friend. Remember, the more you isolate yourself—and this is what depression tends to do—the more you will increase emotional and physical stress. Saying how you really feel (especially what you fear and how angry you may be) to someone you are confident of being with, is an excellent antidote for your grief and to deal with depression. And, forgiving yourself and others, will also release depressed feelings.
4. Use a universal treatment for depression: exercise. Physical activity will have an affect on brain chemistry and help in the management of depression. Take 10-15 minute walks, preferably with someone. This will activate your endorphins and affect mood.
5. Find a symbol of comfort and guidance. Create a symbol that will bring back loving memories of the person who died and/or of your Higher Power who is with you at all times, and will help you through your great loss. Keep the symbol in a place where you will see it often and use it as a cue to think of loving memories—and to accept the new conditions of life.
6. Are deep seated negative beliefs (I can’t go on alone, I’m being punished, I’m never going to feel better, I’m worthless, etc.) adding to your depression? Regain your power. Take it back from those beliefs that say you are less and not more. Believe you can get well. Create opposing affirmations and keep repeating them throughout the day.
7. Start learning to tolerate uncertainty. This can be accomplished by turning toward your spiritual and symbolic beliefs. You will increase your options by letting your spiritual beliefs guide you and strengthen your faith that you will get through this hurtful loss. Know what you can and cannot control. You can control how you deal with major changes; you cannot control what others say and do or what has already happened.
8. Let possibility educate you out of depression. Here is where your imagination can help in a very positive way. Are you open to exploring the numerous choices there are for dealing with loss? Begin to learn about them from others, support groups, readings, and the experts. By creating options for dealing with fear, anger, guilt, and negative thoughts, you can change your view of what lies ahead.
9. Check your eating habits and whether you have an insufficiency of amino acids. Protein consumption at all three meals can affect neurotransmitters and your energy levels. Reduce carbohydrate (not complex carbs), sugar, alcohol, and fast food consumption, and increase fruits and vegetables. The way you feel physically will add to or detract from depression.
Whenever you feel depression creeping back in, immediately ask yourself this key question, “What are my choices here?” If you are burying your feelings and not facing them, depression is a common result.
Refuse to withdraw from life; make connections and express your feelings to a support group or to your best friend. If your depressive symptoms go on for more than a couple of months, be sure to consult a professional counselor. You can get through this darkness and into the light by taking action early (don't wait for it to worsen) to deal with this pervasive emotion.
hey! that's the picture i made a few days ago! and put it on http://mantoss.ytmnd.com/ i'd be so proud if the picture i spent about an hour or so making became a tshirt teamliquid would wear! but well is this copyright infringement? it's not exactly mentos but ....
but musli when you edited it you didnt make it fit the requirements, here ive got the original photoshop document i'll fix it for you
unfortunately i dont think this will win the contest as it's not really a teamliquid shirt :x
Fanta: It just requires a lot good photo resourced "grungy" images that you work to make masks. I photographed a gigs of different kinds of materials when I studied graphic design. Nowadays you can probably find some good free picture sites also. Hmm... basic knowledge of layers etc helps.
One more quick one. Not really a blue color scheme. A horse skull. Whatever.
d4d we realized it wouldnt be easy two centuries ago no need to quote that thing over and over again. there are ppl willing to do that work here last time I checked, and for shits sake can you please be a little more optimistic? no need to hammer down every god damn idea that ever pops up.
Let's try to find a solution that will make honour to Suffeli's design, that will enable mnm to keep breathing and that will make Rekrul (aka 'the poker champion') proud
Could we look at the silk screen printing controversy from an another angle? There's no problem as long as each individual order it's t-shirt himself, isn't it? You can decide where you want it to be delivered, you don't give any personal info to anyone and you're a happy TL t-shirt owner in the end.
One way could be for TL only to provide the actual design file (in the proper format etc) and to say on which website to order it with some kind of step by step or something. Then I thought I could be interesting to keep some track of who ordered it, how many shirts etc... It may be done quite easily: to download the design file, you have to be logged and TL logs who download the file to have some kind of data of it. While thinking how this could really be done and trying to find a website providing individual silk screening orders, I've come across this: www.shirtmagic.com What's interesting? You can create your OWN SHOP, that keep track of sales, where you can provide multiple designs and stuff... Seems too good? I've done some alpha testing (stracraft 2 influence): I've created a shop, added a basic t shirt and tried to order it. Result? Apparently, you can order individual shirts with a shipping address anywhere in the world! A basic T-shirt with print is about 27$ delivery included.
Here's the test shop I've done : http://www.shirtmagic.com/shop/tototo
Could this be an interesting option? I admit I haven't looked at the details of the printing quality of the site... What about a Teamliquid tshirt shop? Think about it, you could run contests and add tshirts to the shop People wanted one race / one t shirt? No pb
Let's try to find a solution that will make honour to Suffeli's design, that will enable mnm to keep breathing and that will make Rekrul (aka 'the poker champion') proud
Could we look at the silk screen printing controversy from an another angle? There's no problem as long as each individual order it's t-shirt himself, isn't it? You can decide where you want it to be delivered, you don't give any personal info to anyone and you're a happy TL t-shirt owner in the end.
One way could be for TL only to provide the actual design file (in the proper format etc) and to say on which website to order it with some kind of step by step or something. Then I thought I could be interesting to keep some track of who ordered it, how many shirts etc... It may be done quite easily: to download the design file, you have to be logged and TL logs who download the file to have some kind of data of it. While thinking how this could really be done and trying to find a website providing individual silk screening orders, I've come across this: www.shirtmagic.com What's interesting? You can create your OWN SHOP, that keep track of sales, where you can provide multiple designs and stuff... Seems too good? I've done some alpha testing (stracraft 2 influence): I've created a shop, added a basic t shirt and tried to order it. Result? Apparently, you can order individual shirts with a shipping address anywhere in the world! A basic T-shirt with print is about 27$ delivery included.
Here's the test shop I've done : http://www.shirtmagic.com/shop/tototo
Could this be an interesting option? I admit I haven't looked at the details of the printing quality of the site... What about a Teamliquid tshirt shop? Think about it, you could run contests and add tshirts to the shop People wanted one race / one t shirt? No pb
Hope that help
im talking to a fellow from that website and getting information. has anyone here heard of or considered direct to garment printing as an option? it has over 8x the dpi (higher res), outlasts screen printing and the colour range is basically unlimited. it is more expensive though and you don't gain anything by bulk buying (we were having issues with this idea anyway). could be worth a thought..?
just to add some more info on this option: - around $25US p/ shirt (in size S-XL, XXL and larger is more) - add $1US for printing on the back of the shirt - around $10US P+H to US citizens, but also ships internationally to canada and europe (not australia though ) - 600dpi (screen printing is 72dpi) - the image will outlast the silk screen printing counterpart - actual colour of the base shirt, as well as the type of t-shirt you choose contributes to cost (not much variation in price though) - there is no increased cost if you chose 1000000 colours over 1 colour - FINAL COST for most buyers using suffeli's design would be about $35US
On June 21 2007 13:46 gLyo wrote: This would have been cool one or two years ago, but not anymore. :|
Even so, it's probably the best design submitted so far, I think.
Fashion is different in the US I guess, but the design looks pretty normal, no? Care to explain what exactly you mean?
It looks like something anybody could pick up at Hollister, American Eagle, or Abercrombie. The distressed crest is very overused and played out, unfortunately. Distressing, in general, is very played out.
I think that the designs should tend towards something more timeless and unique, rather than trendy (especially a trend that's come and gone).
I don't mean to disparage the designer, because the designs are very proficient, I just don't think they suit TeamLiquid.
I guess Switzerland is a little behind the fashion times then, distressing isn't played out here yet, at least I don't think it is.^^
Let's try to find a solution that will make honour to Suffeli's design, that will enable mnm to keep breathing and that will make Rekrul (aka 'the poker champion') proud
Could we look at the silk screen printing controversy from an another angle? There's no problem as long as each individual order it's t-shirt himself, isn't it? You can decide where you want it to be delivered, you don't give any personal info to anyone and you're a happy TL t-shirt owner in the end.
One way could be for TL only to provide the actual design file (in the proper format etc) and to say on which website to order it with some kind of step by step or something. Then I thought I could be interesting to keep some track of who ordered it, how many shirts etc... It may be done quite easily: to download the design file, you have to be logged and TL logs who download the file to have some kind of data of it. While thinking how this could really be done and trying to find a website providing individual silk screening orders, I've come across this: www.shirtmagic.com What's interesting? You can create your OWN SHOP, that keep track of sales, where you can provide multiple designs and stuff... Seems too good? I've done some alpha testing (stracraft 2 influence): I've created a shop, added a basic t shirt and tried to order it. Result? Apparently, you can order individual shirts with a shipping address anywhere in the world! A basic T-shirt with print is about 27$ delivery included.
Here's the test shop I've done : http://www.shirtmagic.com/shop/tototo
Could this be an interesting option? I admit I haven't looked at the details of the printing quality of the site... What about a Teamliquid tshirt shop? Think about it, you could run contests and add tshirts to the shop People wanted one race / one t shirt? No pb
Hope that help
im talking to a fellow from that website and getting information. has anyone here heard of or considered direct to garment printing as an option? it has over 8x the dpi (higher res), outlasts screen printing and the colour range is basically unlimited. it is more expensive though and you don't gain anything by bulk buying (we were having issues with this idea anyway). could be worth a thought..?
just to add some more info on this option: - around $25US p/ shirt (in size S-XL, XXL and larger is more) - add $1US for printing on the back of the shirt - around $10US P+H to US citizens, but also ships internationally to canada and europe (not australia though ) - 600dpi (screen printing is 72dpi) - the image will outlast the silk screen printing counterpart - actual colour of the base shirt, as well as the type of t-shirt you choose contributes to cost (not much variation in price though) - there is no increased cost if you chose 1000000 colours over 1 colour - FINAL COST for most buyers using suffeli's design would be about $35US
Let's try to find a solution that will make honour to Suffeli's design, that will enable mnm to keep breathing and that will make Rekrul (aka 'the poker champion') proud
Could we look at the silk screen printing controversy from an another angle? There's no problem as long as each individual order it's t-shirt himself, isn't it? You can decide where you want it to be delivered, you don't give any personal info to anyone and you're a happy TL t-shirt owner in the end.
One way could be for TL only to provide the actual design file (in the proper format etc) and to say on which website to order it with some kind of step by step or something. Then I thought I could be interesting to keep some track of who ordered it, how many shirts etc... It may be done quite easily: to download the design file, you have to be logged and TL logs who download the file to have some kind of data of it. While thinking how this could really be done and trying to find a website providing individual silk screening orders, I've come across this: www.shirtmagic.com What's interesting? You can create your OWN SHOP, that keep track of sales, where you can provide multiple designs and stuff... Seems too good? I've done some alpha testing (stracraft 2 influence): I've created a shop, added a basic t shirt and tried to order it. Result? Apparently, you can order individual shirts with a shipping address anywhere in the world! A basic T-shirt with print is about 27$ delivery included.
Here's the test shop I've done : http://www.shirtmagic.com/shop/tototo
Could this be an interesting option? I admit I haven't looked at the details of the printing quality of the site... What about a Teamliquid tshirt shop? Think about it, you could run contests and add tshirts to the shop People wanted one race / one t shirt? No pb
Hope that help
im talking to a fellow from that website and getting information. has anyone here heard of or considered direct to garment printing as an option? it has over 8x the dpi (higher res), outlasts screen printing and the colour range is basically unlimited. it is more expensive though and you don't gain anything by bulk buying (we were having issues with this idea anyway). could be worth a thought..?
just to add some more info on this option: - around $25US p/ shirt (in size S-XL, XXL and larger is more) - add $1US for printing on the back of the shirt - around $10US P+H to US citizens, but also ships internationally to canada and europe (not australia though ) - 600dpi (screen printing is 72dpi) - the image will outlast the silk screen printing counterpart - actual colour of the base shirt, as well as the type of t-shirt you choose contributes to cost (not much variation in price though) - there is no increased cost if you chose 1000000 colours over 1 colour - FINAL COST for most buyers using suffeli's design would be about $35US
So how do we go about getting them to Aus?
Well, shirtmagic do ship to Australia ...
L!MP, what was the provider you were talking about ?
the right sleeve reads: tLiquid the left sleeve reads: tShirt
To the Admins:
if you want me to change anything (i.e. sleeves, color) go ahead and tell me.
thanks for looking at it, and you can find a clearer version here (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/57932162/?q=by%3Ahodori911+in%3Ascraps&qh=sort%3Atime)
I like it but the marine and the stimpack icons are copyrighed materials (blizzard) so i don't think it could be printed.
+ I'm pretty sure it's JACKED up not CHECKED up ;p
On June 22 2007 04:29 NovaTheFeared wrote:
This is the best design I've seen. I would recommend removing the freshmaker and cleaning up the image and this is our shirt.
I want I want I want
:D
Suffeli's looks great as well, although I don't think I'd wear anything with a skull on it, personally (probably in the minority tho ).
ok i realize this isn't going to win, but if someone decides to make multiple shirts PLEASE make this one. i'd pay 20 bucks for this
that logo wouldnt work, when using it to make a shirt it would look much tinier due to the image dpi regulations. I took my original PSD and fixed it up, this is the best I can make it, unless someone vectorizes the entire thing. Using the 10x10 inch , 2000x2000 pixels/200 DPI regulations:
On June 21 2007 19:47 LxRogue wrote: I like the horse/eagle one except for "The Freshmaker."
Maybe i missed the joke but i don't think it should have any random phrases on it.
On June 21 2007 14:01 mnm wrote: that is hot. hah the freshmaker? are we mentos? i am a little concerned about the texture treatment (especially if we end up using the same design for pocket designs on other apparel or even for buttons and such).
On June 21 2007 14:12 lil.sis wrote: cool design but im not feeling freshmaker
On June 22 2007 13:06 Rekrul wrote: Man that blueshirt is fucuking sweet lose the freshmaker thing put in something else maybe and itll be great
OT - What the hell are you doing here. Shouldn't you be partying over your victory in the WSOP?
Anyways Sufeli's shirt is the most graphically designed as far as how shirts should look. He definitely has the proper skill to do the job but I think the design is poor and the quotes should be left out. I don't really like the background imagery either, Like others said it reminds too much of AEO or some other trendy line.
I really like the 3 race shirt but it seemed TOO basic. Maybe modify that and we got ourselves a shirt.
I think simple is the way to go for this. White/Black shirt, simple designs, teamliquid horse or starcraft design and thats it.
Create something just in between these and its perfect imo.
edit - the only quote that should be considered is something like 'circa 2001' or 'est. 2001'.
Let's try to find a solution that will make honour to Suffeli's design, that will enable mnm to keep breathing and that will make Rekrul (aka 'the poker champion') proud
Could we look at the silk screen printing controversy from an another angle? There's no problem as long as each individual order it's t-shirt himself, isn't it? You can decide where you want it to be delivered, you don't give any personal info to anyone and you're a happy TL t-shirt owner in the end.
One way could be for TL only to provide the actual design file (in the proper format etc) and to say on which website to order it with some kind of step by step or something. Then I thought I could be interesting to keep some track of who ordered it, how many shirts etc... It may be done quite easily: to download the design file, you have to be logged and TL logs who download the file to have some kind of data of it. While thinking how this could really be done and trying to find a website providing individual silk screening orders, I've come across this: www.shirtmagic.com What's interesting? You can create your OWN SHOP, that keep track of sales, where you can provide multiple designs and stuff... Seems too good? I've done some alpha testing (stracraft 2 influence): I've created a shop, added a basic t shirt and tried to order it. Result? Apparently, you can order individual shirts with a shipping address anywhere in the world! A basic T-shirt with print is about 27$ delivery included.
Here's the test shop I've done : http://www.shirtmagic.com/shop/tototo
Could this be an interesting option? I admit I haven't looked at the details of the printing quality of the site... What about a Teamliquid tshirt shop? Think about it, you could run contests and add tshirts to the shop People wanted one race / one t shirt? No pb
Hope that help
im talking to a fellow from that website and getting information. has anyone here heard of or considered direct to garment printing as an option? it has over 8x the dpi (higher res), outlasts screen printing and the colour range is basically unlimited. it is more expensive though and you don't gain anything by bulk buying (we were having issues with this idea anyway). could be worth a thought..?
just to add some more info on this option: - around $25US p/ shirt (in size S-XL, XXL and larger is more) - add $1US for printing on the back of the shirt - around $10US P+H to US citizens, but also ships internationally to canada and europe (not australia though ) - 600dpi (screen printing is 72dpi) - the image will outlast the silk screen printing counterpart - actual colour of the base shirt, as well as the type of t-shirt you choose contributes to cost (not much variation in price though) - there is no increased cost if you chose 1000000 colours over 1 colour - FINAL COST for most buyers using suffeli's design would be about $35US
So how do we go about getting them to Aus?
Well, shirtmagic do ship to Australia ...
L!MP, what was the provider you were talking about ?
i talked to shirtmagic. they don't ship to australia as the UPS rates are too high. i spoke to a representative and they ship to europe, canada and usa.
My request is to leave this forum purely for design. If anyone wants to discuss process, leave it out of this forum and PM me - ITS FUTILE TO HAVE TOO MANY COOKS IN THE KITCHEN. these are the tshirt fulfillment services i have been researching for the past two weeks: CafePress, UberPrints, Spreadshirt, Zazzle, ShirtCity, Printfection, ShirtMagic, CustomInk, DesignAShirt, The Shirt Printer, ExpertShirt, ArtApart (as well as a lot of other independent companies who are friends of friends and such). There is a long list of items that I take into consideration. I wouldn't want to jump into one of these just because it 'seems' like a good choice. I've been doing a lot of research and I would hope that others trust that we end up making the right decisions. If you want to help with this, PM me and do not bring it into this forum. I know quality of shirt/design, durability and accessibility is important to tl and I seek to bring just that.
this goes out to you evan, l!mp, d4d, jellycat, etc.
I would love your help, I would just discourage doing research independently from each other. (but when you do offer help, i cannot give you any compensation.. we are not a company and all work we do is for free)
As far as designs go, I still like the stimpack logo one, the "gay pony" and the ones with the stylized unit logos the best. Suffeli's I think is really well-done but looks like so many other shirts I see,
i like the small ones that don't scream hey i'm a nerd and i play starcraft! my p > your Z! but the ones so that anyone who does play starcraft gets it, and people that really get it, try to get it and think about it. +1 design points for flacccccid
On June 25 2007 00:32 Flaccid wrote: LET THE INSIDE JOKES BEGIN
Simple, boring, but trying to meet the criteria of something that would actually print and be affordable.
P.S. Yes, it's another V-Tech gag regarding ranged goons.
This is actually pretty good.
On another note - are we actually going to take action? there are PLENTY of good designs in this thread and after 26 pages - we still haven't done anything. We've taken numerous polls on quality of shirts, designs and whatnot, and acknowledged that many of TL will actually buy this to go towards maker (to repay for the shirt-making-costs) and TL itself (not members, but TL).
well if u read the original post.. "We will be accepting submissions until July 2, 2007, 12:00pm PST (2 weeks from now)" and actually not many people have sent me their full resolution PNG files yet.. so only a few of the designs you've seen here can be accepted right now.. im also open to possibly eps/vector artwork..
Obviously the file should be at least 200DPI (you might as well set it to 300 so it can be printed on glossy paper if needed). If you made the design at 72 DPI and just reset the DPI to 200 - doing so the image is resampled and is enlarged with crappy results. It won't work. Using vector is a different deal, but you probably know this. I would suggest to use PDF format over EPS to avoid unnecessary confusion.
Adobe Photoshop version CS or earlier (.TIF, .BMP, .GIF, .JPG, .PSD, .EPS, etc.) Other formats may be acceptable. Please contact us to check.
For best results, please supply your raster images at actual size, 200 dpi or higher. Screen resolution (72 dpi) graphics don't work very well unless they are three times actual print size.
VECTOR ARTWORK: PREFERRED
Preferred File Formats: Macromedia Freehand version MX or earlier (FH9,FH10,FH11 etc.) Adobe Illustrator version 10 or earlier (.AI, .EPS, .ART, .WMF, etc.) Corel Draw version 10 or earlier (.CDR) Adobe Acrobat (.PDF) Other formats may be acceptable. Please contact us to check.
Please make sure all text is converted to paths, curves, or outlines, or that all font files used in the artwork are also supplied.
Please make sure all placed raster images are either embedded in the vector file, or include the raster images along with the vector file.
Raster images are often linked to a location on your hard drive by default, and will not be present in the actual vector file.
Each additional color in your design would add .75 cents to the per shirt price.
Front Print:
The center of images having a height of 6" or less are placed 5" down from the collar seam at vertical center.
The top of images exceeding 6" in height are placed 2" down at vertical center.
Maximum image size is 12" wide by 14" in height.
Back Print:
The center of images having a height of 6" or less are placed 7" down from the collar seam at vertical center.
The top of images exceeding 6" in height are placed 4" down at vertical center.
Maximum image size is 12" wide by 14" in height.
Pocket Print:
The image center is placed 2.75" down from top edge of pocket and centered left to right.
Maximum image size for pocket print is 3.5" in width by 3" in height.
Right or Left chest Tshirts:
The center of image is placed 3.5" down from the collar seam and 3.5" from vertical center.
Custom Placement must be specified for images exceeding 6" in height or 7" in width.
Sleeve Print Short Sleeve Tshirt:
Image is placed on out-side face of sleeve. Image is centered 1" up from cuff seam.
Maximum image size is 3.5" in width by 4" in height.
Note that the final design may change pending consultation with staff. The staff will contact the designer if changes need to be done. Also note that we may possibly move forward with only a front design (unless the back is too awesome to leave out). We would also like to stay away from Blizzard units or designs as much as possible.
looks like the vector version of the sandlot logo gets corrupted when resized.. try to look it at "original" size (it is the 6th pic in the album) i think that it is because the transparency
On June 25 2007 00:32 Flaccid wrote: LET THE INSIDE JOKES BEGIN
Simple, boring, but trying to meet the criteria of something that would actually print and be affordable.
P.S. Yes, it's another V-Tech gag regarding ranged goons.
shouldn't the quote read "we've been doing it for years" ?
That would make more sense too since tl.net started in 2002. and its an inside joke about vtec idiots as well as a fact about tl.net.
You both get and missed the joke, my friend.
Sure, they've been doing it for yeeeeaaars, but we've been doing it for loooonger than that. They've been doing it for years, we've been doing it for longer than years. We're TL.net, we trump the internet.
This is if I even understood what you meant... so tired =o
On June 26 2007 19:02 Meta wrote: nice job on the sandlot shirt, i wish the grass units were more vivid but it's currently got my vote nonetheless.
i have some free time right now.. i can update the vector.. but ill need your help.. please help me spotting which unit it is which, from right to left i spotted so far, BC,Wraith,Dropship,guardian,hydra & arbiter.. if anyone can help me with that.. i can do some new traces
I would stay away from blizzard imagery as much as possible. Although in the case of the TL logo, I dont think it matters as much since it is cleverly disguised as grass =].
Since I'm going on a fishing trip for a whole week - here are my shirts. Both are only sketches. If my shirt gets chosen I will of course finish the work. I don't really care what you do with these. If you plan to modify them, sell them... I don't care because I'm going fishing! Whee!
i dont see how an animal on a tshirt is nerdy. and to those who understand what it means it's no nerdier than anything else on any of these tshirts
and guys that shirt you keep quoting with the teamliquid horse picture on the bottom doesnt meet the specs, so there's no point in constantly linking it. the image has to be in the center and be 2000x2000 10x10 inch 200 dpi
On July 03 2007 17:30 mnm wrote: ya gimme some time.. working on it under cover.. might delay the schedule a bit cuz my own schedules getting crazy =[.
Take your time, I wasn't rushing, I was just genuinely curious.
Correct me if im wrong, but the rights to that picture of the horses running down the mountain is not owned by anyone at TL. I'd seen that pic before ever knowing about TL. So if you put that on a shirt, wouldnt that be major copyright?
On July 04 2007 01:18 Fen wrote: Correct me if im wrong, but the rights to that picture of the horses running down the mountain is not owned by anyone at TL. I'd seen that pic before ever knowing about TL. So if you put that on a shirt, wouldnt that be major copyright?
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