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PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 08 2003 05:13 GMT
#1
Can someone of korean forumers explain me why Kang Min (Nal_rA) have only name and surname. Where is his middle name? He has no father or what?
Pure fan
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
July 08 2003 05:20 GMT
#2
He's the next Jesus.
Honk2000
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany698 Posts
July 08 2003 05:24 GMT
#3
Kang is his last name, Min his first name.
you're wondering why his name isn't like Kang Min-Su?
ask his parents T_T
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 08 2003 05:27 GMT
#4
On July 08 2003 14:20 Born)Slippy wrote:
He's the next Jesus.


best joke of the year!
Pure fan
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
July 08 2003 05:31 GMT
#5
hippie mother
JAM THE FUCKER!
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
July 08 2003 05:59 GMT
#6
On July 08 2003 14:27 PaleMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2003 14:20 Born)Slippy wrote:
He's the next Jesus.


best joke of the year!


Hmm why didn't I laugh then oo;
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
S(O)ME(O)NE
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada473 Posts
July 08 2003 06:34 GMT
#7
Because your twisted
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
July 08 2003 06:45 GMT
#8
koreans have no middle names.
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-08 06:53:41
July 08 2003 06:50 GMT
#9
usually chinese and koreans have three characters in their names
first character is family name mostly
but it's not the whole story
there also are many people have only one character as their given names
Kang Min is an example
Kang means the river and Min means people
it's a very common phenominon
such as my name is Lee Min
the same pronunciation with terran killer but the different characters different meaning;)
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 08 2003 06:51 GMT
#10
How abot Kim Jung Min, Lim Yo Hwan, Kim Dong Soo etc?
Pure fan
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-08 07:24:15
July 08 2003 06:59 GMT
#11
kim means gold jung means honest and here min means smart
lim means forest yo means far away hwan means shining

one thing u westerner should know is that these names are just the pronunciation from korean not the original characters
in other words "Min" represent various characters in our language
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
GundamVX
Profile Joined June 2003
United States1025 Posts
July 08 2003 07:06 GMT
#12
If you translate the Chinese characters used to spell out
the names it sounds like they have great meanings...
when in fact most Koreans don't even bother to find out what
their name means or ask other people about their names.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33629 Posts
July 08 2003 07:11 GMT
#13
Em, I think you're wrong Unless you searched Korean sites and found the exact chinese characters for their names :O

Korean names are not last - first - middle name. It's just the surname + first name. The first name can be of any length, but it's usually just 2 letters, but sometimes it's 1 letter, and again sometimes even longer.

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Anal_Ripper
Profile Joined December 2002
Russian Federation1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-08 09:56:35
July 08 2003 07:14 GMT
#14
On July 08 2003 14:59 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2003 14:27 PaleMan wrote:
On July 08 2003 14:20 Born)Slippy wrote:
He's the next Jesus.


best joke of the year!


Hmm why didn't I laugh then oo;

absense of sense of humour may have something to do with it

Better to fast than eat of every meat, better to live alone than mate with all
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-08 07:18:25
July 08 2003 07:14 GMT
#15
and i think u'd better edit ur top post the last sentense
all chinese and koreans have no middle name
just family and given name
one or two characters in given
:O

btw i would like to call their ID
they are cool
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Fedaykin
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands2003 Posts
July 08 2003 07:29 GMT
#16
So, if I understand correctly, the given name is one character, e.i.
Kang in Nal_rA's case and Hong in Yellow's case. Hope I'm still correct.

And the 'Double' name, which Nal_rA doesn't have but is Jin-Ho for yellow and Yo-Hwan for boxer, etc. is the family name. Then which part do they 'transfer' to their children...

And now I'm suddenly confused about Jang Jin-Nam and Jang Jin-Su, I don't think they both have the same first names, and in that case Jang would be family's name...

So, if I'd walk up to any korean of whom I know his/her name, or better, any of the 5 mentioned above, how would i address them.

Please enlighten me on the korean-names-case
BigBalls
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States5354 Posts
July 08 2003 07:40 GMT
#17
boxer is lim yo-hwan goes by lim, i would guess that is first name
if you guys could use google and post direct links to the maphacks here it would be greatly appreciated. - Nazgul
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
July 08 2003 07:46 GMT
#18
u got the reverse side....
and i forget to say that children in one family often share family name and one certain character to show they'er BROTHERs or SISTERs
and another two or three differnt characters to show they are not the same one

Jang Jin-Nam and Jang Jin-Su
jang is their family name
jin is their sharing name
we can distinguish them by Nam and Su
jinnam and jinsu both are their surname (given name)
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 08 2003 09:54 GMT
#19
...and on a final (and confusing) note:

Korean name = surname + given name. This is true. And, as already explained by Emlary and Wax, the given name part may be either one or two syllable-characters (In fact, there's nothing legally wrong with having a given name with 10 or even 20 characters in it - but that's like 0.001% of the population in Korea)

BUT, it should also be mentioned that there are legally recognized surnames used in Korea which have MORE THAN just a single syllable-character. There are several, but the most common example of this would be the family name "Sun-Woo" (). So, for example, if Boxer somehow got caught up in a freak temporal time-distortion a la Next Generation and found himself suddenly re-born to parents with the surname Sun-Woo, his new, full name would be "Sun-Woo Yo-hwan" (ȯ). Fyi, for the trivia buffs out there, the Sun-Woo surname originated in China and is not considered, in the strict historical sense, a Korean surname, tho obviously the surname is now officially recognized in Korea as a proper Korean surname because it's been used Korea so long.

There are other examples, but my brain's too fried right now to think of them.

Anyway, despite what I've just told you, 99% of all Koreans will have a single-character surname followed by a 2-syllable given name. So, most you can rest easy in the knowledge that you'll recognize a Korean name when you see one - just don't rule out surprises every now and then.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
nullmind
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
1303 Posts
July 08 2003 15:09 GMT
#20
I'm that other 1%
MichaelReznor
Profile Joined February 2003
United States63 Posts
July 08 2003 15:58 GMT
#21
On July 08 2003 16:11 Waxangel wrote:
Em, I think you're wrong Unless you searched Korean sites and found the exact chinese characters for their names :O

Korean names are not last - first - middle name. It's just the surname + first name. The first name can be of any length, but it's usually just 2 letters, but sometimes it's 1 letter, and again sometimes even longer.



You don't need to know characters because you already know the characters say Lim Yo Hwan.
Why would you search Korean websites for Chinese characters?
I have a big gun
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 09 2003 01:56 GMT
#22
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YNi-Soul
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia323 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-09 02:05:58
July 09 2003 02:00 GMT
#23
YNi-Soul
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia323 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-09 02:12:10
July 09 2003 02:10 GMT
#24
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Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
July 09 2003 02:22 GMT
#25
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4 cheers for Ryan307
bASesinAtOR
Profile Joined November 2002
Bhutan1295 Posts
July 09 2003 02:32 GMT
#26
On July 08 2003 14:20 Born)Slippy wrote:
He's the next Jesus.

WWJD
sike
FizbAn
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)80 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-07-09 03:18:53
July 09 2003 03:17 GMT
#27
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Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
July 09 2003 03:21 GMT
#28
YOu have to have korean windows, or a program that reads it.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
July 09 2003 04:53 GMT
#29
On July 09 2003 10:56 Bill307 wrote:
On a similar note, I was wondering why one korean character ( ) seems to be translated into two different pronunciations ("Bak" and "Park"), according to the names that I have written on my KPGA Rankings chart (which I got from mensrea's old OGN news posts). Is this because the true pronunciation is somewhere between "Bak" and "Park"?

E.g.

[Oops]Reach -- Bak Jung-seok --
SoNiC)BlacK -- Park Shin-young -- ڽſ

(or maybe this is just an error in my chart...)



Most texts will tell you Reach's (and Black's) Korean surname should be spelled in English "Park." But anyone with any knowledge of Korean knows that's NOT the way it's really pronounced. The Korean surname "" should, in fact, be pronounced "Bak," because = b. "Bak" sounds closer to the original than Park, so I go with that.

The confusion stems from the romanization techniques used by early linguists when transliterating Korean into English. However, all sorts of nonsense has been perpetrated against the Korean language in the name of out-dated notions of phoenetic orthodoxy. What must be understood before anything else is that language and grammar (including the rules pertaining to transliteration) are always in flux and is subject to revision and change.

Thus, for example, virtually all world maps up to the mid 1980s spelled the capital city of China "PEKING" - the English spelling used from colonial times. But, then the Chinese began gaining more clout internationally and started complaining, basically that the English versions of the proper Chinese names should at least sound remotely similar to the original pronunciation. Thus, it got changed to BEIJING - not quite the same as the original Mandarin pronunciation, but infinitely better than the perversion that was "PEKING." With any luck, a similar change will happen with Korean. There will certainly be less confusion this way.

Anyway, fuck the textbooks.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Ready2[ESC]
Profile Joined October 2002
Hungary1436 Posts
July 09 2003 05:14 GMT
#30
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Fedaykin
Profile Joined February 2003
Netherlands2003 Posts
July 09 2003 06:46 GMT
#31
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Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
July 09 2003 07:00 GMT
#32
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No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Anal_Ripper
Profile Joined December 2002
Russian Federation1233 Posts
July 09 2003 08:51 GMT
#33
yep, it works fine, u just have to d/l Korean fonts or something
Better to fast than eat of every meat, better to live alone than mate with all
Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
July 09 2003 09:49 GMT
#34
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Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
July 09 2003 23:32 GMT
#35
Hmm... I'm not sure why, but half the korean stuff that I read shows up as ASCII, and the other half is displayed properly... maybe it's because I only have some unicode fonts (e.g. Unicode Arial MS) .

E.g. YGClan reps site is in ASCII; YGClan maps site is in korean =/.

Thanks for the info, mensrea .
Macrophage
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany730 Posts
July 16 2003 12:12 GMT
#36
i had korean language support, but it didnt show proper symbols for me, all i had to do was to set the encoding (view, encoding) to korean - if you don't have korean language support you may activate in advanced inet options d/l on demand or something and it will d/l all you need.
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