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On October 21 2026 22:24 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2026 22:22 Jankisa wrote:On October 21 2026 22:11 LightSpectra wrote:On October 21 2026 21:48 Jankisa wrote:
I'm almost dreading this because GH will inevitably have a lot to winge about, this time for real, because the Democratic establishment is not really sending the signals you would hope for as a response to all this crazy shit, I have a feeling they' are going to "Merrick Garland" away those 2 years and no consequences and very little push back against the fascist agenda will be achieved, mostly due to shitty house appointments + lack of strong senate majority. Merrick Garland had over 600 insurrectionists from January 6 indicted, and four indictments against Donald Trump specifically for trying to overturn the election. The former were pardoned. The latter case was dismissed when the SCOTUS ruled in a 6-3 decision that trying to overturn an election is subject to presidential immunity. I don't know why people are rewriting history about what happened during the Biden administration but I guess the conclusion is supposed to be that corruption doesn't exist, when people don't go to jail for crimes it's just because Democrats didn't try hard enough. Honestly, you really think that Merrick Garland did a good job in prosecuting Trump, not only over Jan 6th but also all the other cases? Yes. Show nested quote +Why is it then not fair or "rewriting history" to say that starting the investigation 1 year after Jan 6th and only appointing Jack Smith in November of 2022 (basically 2 years into the presidency) was bad, slow and caused a lot of problems? If anything they should have started the cases later, closer to the election, so they would've still been dangling over Trump before the SCOTUS and Judge Aileen Cannon had a chance to quash them. If you think those cases dangling over Trump would have made a difference you haven't been paying attention.
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I didn't say it would have made a substantial difference. The only thing I'm saying is that this "fascism would automagically disappear if Garland could just get his ass off the couch" narrative is absurd.
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On October 21 2026 22:34 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2026 22:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 21 2026 22:02 Simberto wrote:On October 21 2026 21:48 Jankisa wrote:
It's only going to get worse.
You can bet your sweet ass that ICE agents are going to be showing up at polling stations.
I can absolutely guarantee that there will be unprecedented numbers of various bomb threats, missing ballots, suddenly closed polling stations and much, much more.
Despite all that, it's really looking like the ultimate trump card that US reacts to, high gas prices will simply be too much for Republicans to overcome, and Democrats will get a narrow majority in Senate (well, with Fetterman being there might be a perpetual tie) and a larger on in the House.
I'm almost dreading this because GH will inevitably have a lot to winge about, this time for real, because the Democratic establishment is not really sending the signals you would hope for as a response to all this crazy shit, I have a feeling they' are going to "Merrick Garland" away those 2 years and no consequences and very little push back against the fascist agenda will be achieved, mostly due to shitty house appointments + lack of strong senate majority.
Oh well, hope I'm wrong.
I just wanted to go check the senate odds, it's so fucking depressing that most top search results are fucking Kalshi and Polymarket odds, even on fucking Nate Silver's blog you can't relay see a map or final tally, just the fucking odds and how much money you can make.
I hate reality. Yeah, one thing is for sure. This is the last chance for democracy in the US. And if you don't make very sure to build resilient systems afterwards, even winning this one won't be enough. Maybe this time the fascists won't yet be entrenched enough to completely rig the election, despite trying. There are a lot of very incompetent people in their team after all. And i guess some of the people with integrity or for whom democracy actually matters haven't been purged yet. But in two years, they almost certainly will be. You need to fix your voting system if you get a chance. Go away from voting machines. Paper voting, international observers, very open standard, lots of audits. Voting machines are bad. You don't know if they can be hacked, and you cannot really audit what they claim, so you can never trust their results. Paper voting is much safer. However, my guess is that even if the fascists lose now, the US will just pull another January 6th and completely forget about it because it is slightly inconvenient to try to fix it. Remember that you had your chance to jail these people for trying to overthrow your democracy, and just...didn't. Instead they simply got a second chance to try again. I take umbrage to the bold. Should probably use the collective 'you' or something? That was the collective "you". I meant "you" as in "the US". If it takes more than 4 years to prosecute someone for very obviously trying to overthrow the government, and they can then just try to get elected again and remove all those charges that way, something is very broken.I don't know who specifically is to blame for that, but the US as a whole definitively fucked up there. The US state is very apparently not very capable at defending itself from a fascist takeoever, and that is a huge problem.
There's plenty of blame to go around, but the reality is that the functional responsibility falls to the ~100,000,000 people that don't want this.
They can't keep looking to/relying on the fascists/their useful idiots/their managed opposition to stop themselves from leading us all into this fascist future.
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On October 21 2026 22:11 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2026 21:48 Jankisa wrote:
I'm almost dreading this because GH will inevitably have a lot to winge about, this time for real, because the Democratic establishment is not really sending the signals you would hope for as a response to all this crazy shit, I have a feeling they' are going to "Merrick Garland" away those 2 years and no consequences and very little push back against the fascist agenda will be achieved, mostly due to shitty house appointments + lack of strong senate majority. Merrick Garland had over 600 insurrectionists from January 6 indicted, and four indictments against Donald Trump specifically for trying to overturn the election. The former were pardoned. The latter case was dismissed when the SCOTUS ruled in a 6-3 decision that trying to overturn an election is subject to presidential immunity. I don't know why people are rewriting history about what happened during the Biden administration but I guess the conclusion is supposed to be that corruption doesn't exist, when people don't go to jail for crimes it's just because Democrats didn't try hard enough. The sentence "ruled in a 6-3 decision that trying to overturn an election is subject to presidential immunity" is in fact best described as "people are rewriting history about what happened during the Biden administration."
It absolves Garland for his tardiness in taking 2.5 years to bring the case, and Jack Smith for being a poor lawyer with regards to charges based on immunity arguments and Trump's chances at getting elected again.
On October 21 2026 22:24 LightSpectra wrote:
If anything they should have started the cases later, closer to the election, so they would've still been dangling over Trump before the SCOTUS and Judge Aileen Cannon had a chance to quash them. I'm not a fan of using ongoing litigation to influence elections, and not just for the chance that the person you're charging actually gets elected president and enjoys protections by fact of being the sitting president. Secure the conviction and campaign on that. I may remind you that unscrupulous politicians in charge of the DoJ can do this right back and campaign on indicted Democrats whose trials are ongoing.
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The big , tough Province of Ontario will be importing electricity from the USA this winter. They threatened to cut off electricity to the USA months ago. Let's see if Trump picks up on this and talks about it. God Bless Lake America! LOLOL!
'member when Ontario had the cheapest electricity in North America before the green environmental movement? I remember.
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On October 21 2026 23:04 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2026 22:34 Simberto wrote:On October 21 2026 22:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 21 2026 22:02 Simberto wrote:On October 21 2026 21:48 Jankisa wrote:
It's only going to get worse.
You can bet your sweet ass that ICE agents are going to be showing up at polling stations.
I can absolutely guarantee that there will be unprecedented numbers of various bomb threats, missing ballots, suddenly closed polling stations and much, much more.
Despite all that, it's really looking like the ultimate trump card that US reacts to, high gas prices will simply be too much for Republicans to overcome, and Democrats will get a narrow majority in Senate (well, with Fetterman being there might be a perpetual tie) and a larger on in the House.
I'm almost dreading this because GH will inevitably have a lot to winge about, this time for real, because the Democratic establishment is not really sending the signals you would hope for as a response to all this crazy shit, I have a feeling they' are going to "Merrick Garland" away those 2 years and no consequences and very little push back against the fascist agenda will be achieved, mostly due to shitty house appointments + lack of strong senate majority.
Oh well, hope I'm wrong.
I just wanted to go check the senate odds, it's so fucking depressing that most top search results are fucking Kalshi and Polymarket odds, even on fucking Nate Silver's blog you can't relay see a map or final tally, just the fucking odds and how much money you can make.
I hate reality. Yeah, one thing is for sure. This is the last chance for democracy in the US. And if you don't make very sure to build resilient systems afterwards, even winning this one won't be enough. Maybe this time the fascists won't yet be entrenched enough to completely rig the election, despite trying. There are a lot of very incompetent people in their team after all. And i guess some of the people with integrity or for whom democracy actually matters haven't been purged yet. But in two years, they almost certainly will be. You need to fix your voting system if you get a chance. Go away from voting machines. Paper voting, international observers, very open standard, lots of audits. Voting machines are bad. You don't know if they can be hacked, and you cannot really audit what they claim, so you can never trust their results. Paper voting is much safer. However, my guess is that even if the fascists lose now, the US will just pull another January 6th and completely forget about it because it is slightly inconvenient to try to fix it. Remember that you had your chance to jail these people for trying to overthrow your democracy, and just...didn't. Instead they simply got a second chance to try again. I take umbrage to the bold. Should probably use the collective 'you' or something? That was the collective "you". I meant "you" as in "the US". If it takes more than 4 years to prosecute someone for very obviously trying to overthrow the government, and they can then just try to get elected again and remove all those charges that way, something is very broken.I don't know who specifically is to blame for that, but the US as a whole definitively fucked up there. The US state is very apparently not very capable at defending itself from a fascist takeoever, and that is a huge problem. There's plenty of blame to go around, but the reality is that the functional responsibility falls to the ~100,000,000 people that don't want this. They can't keep looking to/relying on the fascists/their useful idiots/their managed opposition to stop themselves from leading us all into this fascist future.
The fact that calling Merrick Garland bad at his job is "rewriting history", when Biden, who appointed him said similar shit is bonkers to me:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_Garland
During his tenure, Garland was criticized for the pace of the prosecution of President Donald Trump. Some observers, including Biden, assigned Garland some responsibility for the fact that none of the indictments obtained by special counsel Jack Smith went to trial before the November 2024 election in which Trump prevailed and won re-election to a second non-consecutive term leading to all charges against him being dismissed.
To me, it reads like one of LS's white whales, or whatever you want to call it, things he decided he is right on and most other people who agree with him politically are not, so he reflexively attacks people who disagree.
The only way to fight fascists is to use their tools and techniques against them, instead, Garland slow walked everything and tried to "be fair" to Republicans to a point of absurdity, and in my humble opinion that is one of the bigger reasons why Trump came back.
Biden is more at fault for not kicking him to the curb on July 1st after he failed to do anything in his first 6 months as AG, instead he waited until he slow walked everything to the point where Congress got investigating before he did, before he ran parallel documents cases against Biden etc.
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On October 21 2026 19:20 Simberto wrote:So apparently some of Trumps appointees tried to get the CISA to hack voting machines, report any vulnerabilities to the white house, and explicitly not tell the manufacturer about them. https://www.propublica.org/article/cisa-election-security-donald-trumpLuckily, Musk seems to have accidentally fired the people who could do it at that agency: Show nested quote +
The CISA employees repeatedly told the political appointees that their request was impossible, in part because the agents capable of pulling off such an operation had just been laid off by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency initiative. The appointees eventually stopped pressing CISA.
I wonder what else they are doing that we haven't had the luck of finding out? It is kind of scary that the only chance we have of getting a fair election is the hope that those people are too incompetent to manipulate it successfully.
You were misled for clicks. This was at the beginning of 2025 that ProPublica is reporting now, October 2026, to get you to muddy the waters and engage in election conspiracies weeks before a midterm (they are manipulating you). And also create an antidemocratic "out" where even when Republicans win they still aren't "legitimate," just like the Democrats' 2016 nominee said Trump wasn't legitimate, which is an attitude and atmosphere that justifies insubordination, malicious compliance, subversion, and far left extremism in general.
There are good reasons to work together with a company to validate a technology. There are also good reasons to independently attempt to skewer it without telling them. "That's not the way we usually did it though" is not a refutation of the importance of the latter method. It's the kind of unimaginative laziness you should expect to hear from a bureaucracy.
If you actually proved a hackable voting machine, there's a strong argument the answer is not go to the company that built it and go excuse me you have a teensy bit of a hackable election machine. The answer would be to direct investigations of the company, direct investigations of every election the machine touched, expose them publicly, and slam dunk the political win of passing laws to ban voting machines (which you just said you support moving away from), and potentially further federalize elections to guarantee their security.
Again instead of creating a bunch of election rigging claims that you are then forced to epicycle away to explain why the dangerous possibilities never come to fruition, it would be easier to rewrite your assumption. Either people keep trying to rig the election and failing, or the elected government thought they should employ the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency to help support cyber- and infrastructure security.
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On October 21 2026 23:35 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2026 23:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 21 2026 22:34 Simberto wrote:On October 21 2026 22:08 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On October 21 2026 22:02 Simberto wrote:On October 21 2026 21:48 Jankisa wrote:
It's only going to get worse.
You can bet your sweet ass that ICE agents are going to be showing up at polling stations.
I can absolutely guarantee that there will be unprecedented numbers of various bomb threats, missing ballots, suddenly closed polling stations and much, much more.
Despite all that, it's really looking like the ultimate trump card that US reacts to, high gas prices will simply be too much for Republicans to overcome, and Democrats will get a narrow majority in Senate (well, with Fetterman being there might be a perpetual tie) and a larger on in the House.
I'm almost dreading this because GH will inevitably have a lot to winge about, this time for real, because the Democratic establishment is not really sending the signals you would hope for as a response to all this crazy shit, I have a feeling they' are going to "Merrick Garland" away those 2 years and no consequences and very little push back against the fascist agenda will be achieved, mostly due to shitty house appointments + lack of strong senate majority.
Oh well, hope I'm wrong.
I just wanted to go check the senate odds, it's so fucking depressing that most top search results are fucking Kalshi and Polymarket odds, even on fucking Nate Silver's blog you can't relay see a map or final tally, just the fucking odds and how much money you can make.
I hate reality. Yeah, one thing is for sure. This is the last chance for democracy in the US. And if you don't make very sure to build resilient systems afterwards, even winning this one won't be enough. Maybe this time the fascists won't yet be entrenched enough to completely rig the election, despite trying. There are a lot of very incompetent people in their team after all. And i guess some of the people with integrity or for whom democracy actually matters haven't been purged yet. But in two years, they almost certainly will be. You need to fix your voting system if you get a chance. Go away from voting machines. Paper voting, international observers, very open standard, lots of audits. Voting machines are bad. You don't know if they can be hacked, and you cannot really audit what they claim, so you can never trust their results. Paper voting is much safer. However, my guess is that even if the fascists lose now, the US will just pull another January 6th and completely forget about it because it is slightly inconvenient to try to fix it. Remember that you had your chance to jail these people for trying to overthrow your democracy, and just...didn't. Instead they simply got a second chance to try again. I take umbrage to the bold. Should probably use the collective 'you' or something? That was the collective "you". I meant "you" as in "the US". If it takes more than 4 years to prosecute someone for very obviously trying to overthrow the government, and they can then just try to get elected again and remove all those charges that way, something is very broken.I don't know who specifically is to blame for that, but the US as a whole definitively fucked up there. The US state is very apparently not very capable at defending itself from a fascist takeoever, and that is a huge problem. There's plenty of blame to go around, but the reality is that the functional responsibility falls to the ~100,000,000 people that don't want this. They can't keep looking to/relying on the fascists/their useful idiots/their managed opposition to stop themselves from leading us all into this fascist future. The fact that calling Merrick Garland bad at his job is "rewriting history", when Biden, who appointed him said similar shit is bonkers to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merrick_GarlandShow nested quote +During his tenure, Garland was criticized for the pace of the prosecution of President Donald Trump. Some observers, including Biden, assigned Garland some responsibility for the fact that none of the indictments obtained by special counsel Jack Smith went to trial before the November 2024 election in which Trump prevailed and won re-election to a second non-consecutive term leading to all charges against him being dismissed. To me, it reads like one of LS's white whales, or whatever you want to call it, things he decided he is right on and most other people who agree with him politically are not, so he reflexively attacks people who disagree. The only way to fight fascists is to use their tools and techniques against them, instead, Garland slow walked everything and tried to "be fair" to Republicans to a point of absurdity, and in my humble opinion that is one of the bigger reasons why Trump came back. Biden is more at fault for not kicking him to the curb on July 1st after he failed to do anything in his first 6 months as AG, instead he waited until he slow walked everything to the point where Congress got investigating before he did, before he ran parallel documents cases against Biden etc.
Reminder that Trump's popularity went up, not down, when a court found that he raped E. Jean Carroll. He was found guilty of 34 counts of felony fraud (edit: the actual charge was "falsifying business records", in case anyone is going to complain about how I worded this) in the state of New York in May 2024. He already should have been disqualified from the ballot for insurrection according to the 14th Amendment ("Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same").
Being found guilty of other stuff would not have lowered his popularity or lost him the election. The illusion that Joe Biden or Jack Smith could've stopped fascism if they just did things slightly differently is harmful.
A reminder that this is the median swing voter in this country:
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If he was prosecuted for trying to overthrow the elections and put in jail, you really think he would be elected?
I mean, it's a hypothetical, but I think you might be the only person who thinks that.
If he had a very public trial, with all the tapes being played, with all the obvious evidence of what he did on display there is no way that his popularity keeps going up.
Instead, he had very measured and lawyerly people be very careful with him not to offend his Republican fans, all the while Republicans were yelling "lawfare" from every angle possible.
That shit flies, easily when there are no public trials and presenting of evidence, when it's just memos and press releases, if they went after him with RICO and had full will and force of the law and DOJ behind them, things would have worked out differently.
You might have given up and decided that half or a bit less of your country are monsters, but stats and polling reveal a different state, most people are misinformed and don't give a fuck, they vote based on their living standards, prices etc.
A third of voters stayed home, a bunch flipped Biden>Trump because of economic reasons, I really don't think they are just happily on board with fascism, as can be seen from teh current polling and Trumps popularity.
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On October 21 2026 23:36 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2026 19:20 Simberto wrote:So apparently some of Trumps appointees tried to get the CISA to hack voting machines, report any vulnerabilities to the white house, and explicitly not tell the manufacturer about them. https://www.propublica.org/article/cisa-election-security-donald-trumpLuckily, Musk seems to have accidentally fired the people who could do it at that agency:
The CISA employees repeatedly told the political appointees that their request was impossible, in part because the agents capable of pulling off such an operation had just been laid off by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency initiative. The appointees eventually stopped pressing CISA.
I wonder what else they are doing that we haven't had the luck of finding out? It is kind of scary that the only chance we have of getting a fair election is the hope that those people are too incompetent to manipulate it successfully. You were misled for clicks. This was at the beginning of 2025 that ProPublica is reporting now, October 2026, to get you to muddy the waters and engage in election conspiracies weeks before a midterm (they are manipulating you). And also create an antidemocratic "out" where even when Republicans win they still aren't "legitimate," just like the Democrats' 2016 nominee said Trump wasn't legitimate, which is an attitude and atmosphere that justifies insubordination, malicious compliance, subversion, and far left extremism in general. There are good reasons to work together with a company to validate a technology. There are also good reasons to independently attempt to skewer it without telling them. "That's not the way we usually did it though" is not a refutation of the importance of the latter method. It's the kind of unimaginative laziness you should expect to hear from a bureaucracy. If you actually proved a hackable voting machine, there's a strong argument the answer is not go to the company that built it and go excuse me you have a teensy bit of a hackable election machine. The answer would be to direct investigations of the company, direct investigations of every election the machine touched, expose them publicly, and slam dunk the political win of passing laws to ban voting machines (which you just said you support moving away from), and potentially further federalize elections to guarantee their security. Again instead of creating a bunch of election rigging claims that you are then forced to epicycle away to explain why the dangerous possibilities never come to fruition, it would be easier to rewrite your assumption. Either people keep trying to rig the election and failing, or the elected government thought they should employ the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency to help support cyber- and infrastructure security. Pro Publica has a habit of thinly sourced hit pieces that level unsubstantiated allegations well beyond what's supported by the journalism or twisting a real story towards some biased and propagandistic end. It's been embarrassing for a few years now. We need better journalism in this country. It kills these anonymously sourced accusations.
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I doubt I'm the only person who thinks Republicans, who voted for an adjudicated-rapist 34-count felon insurrectionist, would have still voted for him if he was an adjudicated-rapist 91-count felon insurrectionist.
I agree 100% with "most people are misinformed and don't give a fuck, they vote based on their living standards, prices etc." The goldfish-brained voters turned on Trump in 2020 for mishandling the pandemic, turned on Biden because of the global economic shock caused by Russia's invasion of Ukraine and post-pandemic supply contractions, and now they're turning on Trump again for the global economic shock caused by his attack on Iran, tariffs, and wretched budget law passed in 2025. They don't understand how anything works and they don't long remember how bad it was when Republicans are given power. The only optimism I have for the future is that the Democratic Party is moving to the left and might achieve some substantial quality-of-life improvements if they win big this year and in 2028.
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Yes, on that we agree, and its absolutely not an American phenomenon, it's the old George Carlin bit:
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Since the onset of phones and social media, there are now studies proving this, but people are regressing in being interested in civics, learning in general almost across the board, so that is that and it's problematic.
This, however, doesn't mean that not following law and allowing criminals to get away with horrible shit is a good way to govern, Trump not being prosecuted was a clear failure, there's no way around that.
The real self-owns, in my opinion is the 34 count indictment being more prominent in peoples heads then Jan 6th, documents and Georgia cases, that was an extremely complicated and legalistic case that no one was interested in even back then, but it was pushed as a huge thing, this gave Republicans ammunition to call all the rest of it as "lawfare", and you keep bringing it up as if it's anywhere close to those things while putting those investigations down is kind of playing right into their hands.
Jean Carrol case has been adjudicated here as well, to death, again, another case where "normal" people can ask stupid questions, like why now, after 40 or so years did she decide she had to sue over SA, that, unfortunately, due to inherently misogynistic nature of society again muddies the water and it being at the forefront instead of the much more serious cases which were slow walked helped Trump.
If Biden appointed Jack Smith instead of Garland as DA, I can guarantee you that the investigations and trials would have started much earlier, those cases wouldn't be the front and center ones and I think it's pretty likely we live in a different world.
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On October 22 2026 00:13 LightSpectra wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I doubt I'm the only person who thinks Republicans, who voted for an adjudicated-rapist 34-count felon insurrectionist, would have still voted for him if he was an adjudicated-rapist 91-count felon insurrectionist.
I agree 100% with "most people are misinformed and don't give a fuck, they vote based on their living standards, prices etc." The goldfish-brained voters turned on Trump in 2020 for mishandling the pandemic, turned on Biden because of the global economic shock caused by Russia's invasion of Ukraine and post-pandemic supply contractions, and now they're turning on Trump again for the global economic shock caused by his attack on Iran, tariffs, and wretched budget law passed in 2025. They don't understand how anything works and they don't long remember how bad it was when Republicans are given power. The only optimism I have for the future is that the Democratic Party is moving to the left and might achieve some substantial quality-of-life improvements if they win big this year and in 2028.
I'm sure even you know they can't sufficiently do this. The ACA is the best they could muster with 60 seats, and they aren't going to get close to that in even the most optimistic scenarios.
Nevermind the more fundamental point from Simberto and Jankisa that even if they miraculously did, they'd still not do remotely enough to prevent the next wave of fascists from wiping the floor with them after they inevitably fail to fix problems far too large for them even if they had 60+ seats.
You simply can't structure your efforts (you gotta do more than hope and vote) around voting imo. But if you insist on doing that anyway, you gotta at least do the phone banking for Talerico stuff.
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On October 22 2026 00:04 Jankisa wrote:
If he was prosecuted for trying to overthrow the elections and put in jail, you really think he would be elected?
I mean, it's a hypothetical, but I think you might be the only person who thinks that.
If he had a very public trial, with all the tapes being played, with all the obvious evidence of what he did on display there is no way that his popularity keeps going up.
Instead, he had very measured and lawyerly people be very careful with him not to offend his Republican fans, all the while Republicans were yelling "lawfare" from every angle possible.
That shit flies, easily when there are no public trials and presenting of evidence, when it's just memos and press releases, if they went after him with RICO and had full will and force of the law and DOJ behind them, things would have worked out differently.
You might have given up and decided that half or a bit less of your country are monsters, but stats and polling reveal a different state, most people are misinformed and don't give a fuck, they vote based on their living standards, prices etc.
A third of voters stayed home, a bunch flipped Biden>Trump because of economic reasons, I really don't think they are just happily on board with fascism, as can be seen from teh current polling and Trumps popularity.
It's not really supportable that the smart political thing was an ongoing trial instead of a criminal conviction. The public is already exposed to politically motivated prosecutions from both parties. It also raises the specter that the prosecution is fine losing the case if an alternate choice is elected, and doesn't have to worry about the strength of the case since it will be dropped if the target is elected.
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On October 21 2026 13:10 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +Ah that's interesting. Literally no polls of any kind can be done in Germany before an election? Or just before any form of early voting has been done (so basically as of today for early voting, Texas would no longer be able to begin any form of surveys/polls).
You can do them, you just can publicize them. They can be published before an election, just not on election day. We don't really have early voting (except for vote by mail). In Germany, voting happens on one specific sunday, and on that sunday, from 8:00 to 18:00, you are not allowed to published any polls regarding that election. Of course there are polls being done, and basically the second that the voting places close, most major news publishes an estimate based on exit polls. But at that point, that estimate obviously can not influence the election, because voting is closed. The idea is that it is unfair if some voters have more information than others, as that makes the voting unequal, and the vote being equal is a major principle of democratic elections. As i said, a bit more complicated when it is not just one sunday, but instead a few weeks of early voting.
I see, thanks for the information. I'm not sure how that would apply or impact US elections given our propensity (at least for now) to allow for early voting and mail-in voting. Perhaps we could move early voting to just 1 week before the election day and stop all polling just before that window opens.
I'm quite surprised that Emerson (one of the best Pollsters in the country) hasn't been polling more actively right now given the excited nature of this election. I also don't know why more pollsters aren't headed to states like South Carolina and Nebraska given the potential major upsets in those states (Graham only +3 in the last poll while Nebraska is sitting lean-R for such a red state).
I really think polling error is going to be a huge talking point this election. If the polling is accurate, I'd expect Dems to win Michigan, Ohio, Maine, Texas, and Alaska out of the primary swing states while Republicans likely hold Kansas and Iowa. If the polling misses by just 2 points, Dems could lose Texas, Alaska, Maine, and Michigan. I think Ohio is the only "feels safe" Dem seat right now even with some polling error. The flip side would be somehow under repping Dem support this election and states like Kansas, Nebraska, and maybe even South Carolina go blue. And honestly if the polling error gets it wrong for Dems again, polling as we know it might just get thrown out. It's been off too many times in the past several elections, or the entire industry needs to revisit how we conduct polls.
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Response rates are even more garbage thsn before. For the sake of people's sanity they should be fully prepared for a 52-53 seat GOP senate.
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On October 21 2026 23:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The big , tough Province of Ontario will be importing electricity from the USA this winter. They threatened to cut off electricity to the USA months ago. Let's see if Trump picks up on this and talks about it. God Bless Lake America! LOLOL!
'member when Ontario had the cheapest electricity in North America before the green environmental movement? I remember.
What morons, because of green energy they had to buy some from the US as a back up for the winter, and only sell 7x the amount they purchase. Where as 20 years ago before that stupid green energy, which is cheaper to produce, they were purchasing 8% more than they were sending.
I sure we wish we had big brains like you running things instead of making these kick ass posts.
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On October 22 2026 01:26 Introvert wrote:
Response rates are even more garbage thsn before. For the sake of people's sanity they should be fully prepared for a 52-53 seat GOP senate.
This goes for both sides. If there is a 52/53 advantage either way the other side is going to go apeshit.
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On October 22 2026 03:28 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2026 01:26 Introvert wrote:
Response rates are even more garbage thsn before. For the sake of people's sanity they should be fully prepared for a 52-53 seat GOP senate. This goes for both sides. If there is a 52/53 advantage either way the other side is going to go apeshit.
If republicans win this election in any way, that means one of two things: Either the election manipulation worked and they inserted whatever into the voting machines (in which case the US is totally lost if nothing major happens), or the US is just completely lost.
If this current situation isn't enough to dislodge republicans, nothing is. You can hardly fuck up more than Trump did in the last 2 years, and he did it in a way that most americans should actually feel in their daily lives.
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