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OK, so, it's not the US public money, at all.
It's Iran's money that has been seized / frozen over the decades of sanctions and US exerting pressure on countries in the ME who were doing business with Iran to freeze their funds.
US public money has been spent on "dropping $250 million worth of bombs" on them in a day (during a ceasefire, mind you) as the orange moron bragged, it's being spent on replacing the dozens of Reaper drones, F15, E-3 Sentry, Strato tankers and other air-frames, the billion dollar radar dishes, billions of dollars worth of interceptor and offensive munitions etc.
It's also being spent to subsidize Israel's military so they can continue their expansionist and warmongering posture further destabilizing the region.
Further billions are being lost because countries are doing less business with the US, by weakening of the US dollar, treasury yields and economy in general, the increased inflation that is directly taking money out of pockets of those who most deserve it, like fascist bootlickers like oBlade who is paying $6 a gallon (assuming his mom lets him borrow her car) and all the red states morons who can't afford to fill up their enormous trucks, but also millions of people who are being hit directly because US is a country where you can't really do much without a car, who had nothing to do with this and voted against this blight on humanity 3 times.
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On June 17 2026 17:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Had a dumb thought, assume the deal ever gets signed. What are the odds Trump tries to solve it the Trump way and just refuse to pay. So Trump declares total and complete victory and a few months from now Iran closes the strait again because the US isn't paying, and Trump pretends its not his fault anymore.
That’s not going to happen. What is going to happen is Eric and Don Jr’s are going to happen to buy into companies that win all the rebuild contracts and net out billions. Then Oblade is going to post about what smart business men are and remind us how hunter biden is actually super crooked just check the lap top without evidence and that doesn’t even compare to Hilary’s emails or that bastard Ben Gazy.
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On June 17 2026 17:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Had a dumb thought, assume the deal ever gets signed. What are the odds Trump tries to solve it the Trump way and just refuse to pay. So Trump declares total and complete victory and a few months from now Iran closes the strait again because the US isn't paying, and Trump pretends its not his fault anymore.
Yes the US isn't paying. There is no "pay."
Anyone who thinks so... nope.
Like you can literally watch the linked video of Vance explaining Gulf States can invest in Iran if Iran grows up and behaves like a country, and somehow take away from that "Drumpf is sending $300 billion to Iran" - this borders on insanity.
Nobody who took and passed civics in an American elementary school is for a moment shaken by such an absurd claim.
It is not even physically possible. Like it is not even worth explaining.
The President does not have a fucking Scrooge McDuck fund of trillions of dollars that he can just send wherever he wants. It does not exist.
There is no legal mechanism for $300 billion dollars to exist and be sendable, to anyone.
Maybe this is too unclear. After all, Drumpf is the biggest criminal since Biden. Why would he rely on the law. Don't misunderstand. There is no legal mechanism. There is no illegal mechanism. There is no mechanism.
Even the $1.776 billion anti-weaponization fund, tapping into funds literally established by Congress, which the hysterics in this thread told me was a wire payment from the government to Trump, isn't happening.
Suppose the war criminal Trump goes the legal way and you put it in a treaty. Okay, it needs two thirds of the Senate as a treaty, and needs to pass both houses of Congress as an enormous spending package. That is never happening in 300 billion years. Elementary schoolers don't fall for this bullshit lol. Of course some people aren't just falling for it. They know exactly what they're doing and are willfully perpetuating it.
What apparently this whole thing is in reference to is if Iran behaves, they can get investment and partnerships with private companies from the Gulf States, Asia, South America, Africa, oh and the US? - so Iran can rejoin the community of nations and become dependent enough that they knock off the antisocial behavior.
The fund's existence has been previously reported but Reuters is revealing for the first time that more than half of the amount has already been committed and that it will be comprised entirely of private-sector funds.
U.S. and Iranian officials said on Sunday they had agreed on a framework to end their war, which began when U.S. and Israeli forces attacked Iran on February 28, halt the U.S. blockade of Iran and reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a key supply route for global oil and gas.
The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations programme and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing.
That is probably better than just cutting them off from the world to be poor forever (hasn't worked in Cuba, and killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq by sanctions after the First Gulf War), although there are arguments on all sides, since it's private money they can do what they want after all, and if you don't like it, make your own multinational oil conglomerate.
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On June 17 2026 21:23 oBlade wrote:
Drumpf is the biggest criminal since Biden.
Why do you think that Biden is a bigger criminal than Trump?
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Why do you even engage with him?
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On June 17 2026 21:53 Velr wrote:
Why do you even engage with him?
You don't believe that oBlade is going to articulately explain in great detail, with mountains of evidence and reliable sources, why he thinks that Biden is a bigger criminal than Trump?
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Best you'll get is another It is not even physically possible. Like it is not even worth explaining.
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On June 17 2026 20:49 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2026 17:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Had a dumb thought, assume the deal ever gets signed. What are the odds Trump tries to solve it the Trump way and just refuse to pay. So Trump declares total and complete victory and a few months from now Iran closes the strait again because the US isn't paying, and Trump pretends its not his fault anymore. That’s not going to happen. What is going to happen is Eric and Don Jr’s are going to happen to buy into companies that win all the rebuild contracts and net out billions. Then Oblade is going to post about what smart business men are and remind us how hunter biden is actually super crooked just check the lap top without evidence and that doesn’t even compare to Hilary’s emails or that bastard Ben Gazy.
When reminded of the fact that Trump called Obama a terrorist for "shipping pallets of cash" to Iran when he unfroze $1.7B of their money in exchange for nuclear inspections, oBlade's response was to brush it off because it was ten years ago. But he's also still sore about Hunter Biden's laptop that allegedly cost Trump the 2020 election because Rudy Giuliani supposedly found child porn on it but decided to share with Steve Bannon and other Republicans for weeks instead of turning it over to the police.
From this we can gather their statue of limitations for caring about something is somewhere between 5 and 10 years. Just wait 5 more years and the Hunter Biden laptop will no longer be an issue, right?
On June 17 2026 19:21 Jankisa wrote:
OK, so, it's not the US public money, at all.
That's what they said about Nero's palace ballroom too. Spend weeks "priming the pump" (Trump claims he invented that phrase) that it won't cost America's taxpayers a dime before sneaking it into a reconciliation bill.
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On June 17 2026 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:You don't believe that oBlade is going to articulately explain in great detail, with mountains of evidence and reliable sources, why he thinks that Biden is a bigger criminal than Trump?
That is definitively a thing that can totally happen. It would also lead me to assume that the real oBlade has been abducted by aliens and exchanged for a body snatcher.
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United States44245 Posts
On June 17 2026 21:23 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2026 17:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Had a dumb thought, assume the deal ever gets signed. What are the odds Trump tries to solve it the Trump way and just refuse to pay. So Trump declares total and complete victory and a few months from now Iran closes the strait again because the US isn't paying, and Trump pretends its not his fault anymore. Yes the US isn't paying. There is no "pay." Anyone who thinks so... nope. Like you can literally watch the linked video of Vance explaining Gulf States can invest in Iran if Iran grows up and behaves like a country, and somehow take away from that "Drumpf is sending $300 billion to Iran" - this borders on insanity. Nobody who took and passed civics in an American elementary school is for a moment shaken by such an absurd claim. It is not even physically possible. Like it is not even worth explaining. The President does not have a fucking Scrooge McDuck fund of trillions of dollars that he can just send wherever he wants. It does not exist. There is no legal mechanism for $300 billion dollars to exist and be sendable, to anyone. Maybe this is too unclear. After all, Drumpf is the biggest criminal since Biden. Why would he rely on the law. Don't misunderstand. There is no legal mechanism. There is no illegal mechanism. There is no mechanism. Even the $1.776 billion anti-weaponization fund, tapping into funds literally established by Congress, which the hysterics in this thread told me was a wire payment from the government to Trump, isn't happening. Suppose the war criminal Trump goes the legal way and you put it in a treaty. Okay, it needs two thirds of the Senate as a treaty, and needs to pass both houses of Congress as an enormous spending package. That is never happening in 300 billion years. Elementary schoolers don't fall for this bullshit lol. Of course some people aren't just falling for it. They know exactly what they're doing and are willfully perpetuating it. What apparently this whole thing is in reference to is if Iran behaves, they can get investment and partnerships with private companies from the Gulf States, Asia, South America, Africa, oh and the US? - so Iran can rejoin the community of nations and become dependent enough that they knock off the antisocial behavior. The fund's existence has been previously reported but Reuters is revealing for the first time that more than half of the amount has already been committed and that it will be comprised entirely of private-sector funds.
U.S. and Iranian officials said on Sunday they had agreed on a framework to end their war, which began when U.S. and Israeli forces attacked Iran on February 28, halt the U.S. blockade of Iran and reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a key supply route for global oil and gas.
The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations programme and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing. That is probably better than just cutting them off from the world to be poor forever (hasn't worked in Cuba, and killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq by sanctions after the First Gulf War), although there are arguments on all sides, since it's private money they can do what they want after all, and if you don't like it, make your own multinational oil conglomerate.
The US committed to them getting $300b. If someone else doesn't come up with the money then the US guaranteed the amount.
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Northern Ireland27272 Posts
On June 17 2026 20:49 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2026 17:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Had a dumb thought, assume the deal ever gets signed. What are the odds Trump tries to solve it the Trump way and just refuse to pay. So Trump declares total and complete victory and a few months from now Iran closes the strait again because the US isn't paying, and Trump pretends its not his fault anymore. That’s not going to happen. What is going to happen is Eric and Don Jr’s are going to happen to buy into companies that win all the rebuild contracts and net out billions. Then Oblade is going to post about what smart business men are and remind us how hunter biden is actually super crooked just check the lap top without evidence and that doesn’t even compare to Hilary’s emails or that bastard Ben Gazy.
You’d think someone would have given the poor guy his laptop back by now!
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On June 17 2026 22:41 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2026 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 17 2026 21:53 Velr wrote:
Why do you even engage with him? You don't believe that oBlade is going to articulately explain in great detail, with mountains of evidence and reliable sources, why he thinks that Biden is a bigger criminal than Trump? That is definitively a thing that can totally happen. It would also lead me to assume that the real oBlade has been abducted by aliens and exchanged for a body snatcher.
Maybe oBlade was never real and what we have now is the alien/bodysnatcher.
The question would probably be better asked to dyhb, who I assume is less likely to actually agree with the statement, but is also likely much more capable of steelmanning it.
(Not that I volunteer that extra work to dyhb)
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On June 17 2026 22:41 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2026 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 17 2026 21:53 Velr wrote:
Why do you even engage with him? You don't believe that oBlade is going to articulately explain in great detail, with mountains of evidence and reliable sources, why he thinks that Biden is a bigger criminal than Trump? That is definitively a thing that can totally happen. It would also lead me to assume that the real oBlade has been abducted by aliens and exchanged for a body snatcher.
Blade Runner but the replicants are forum posters named oBlade. Where were the signs.
Step on a lego, f***** had prophetic value by the way. Maybe it's why they are unwell (in the administration).
Kinda explains why there‘s so many annoyances in certain European regions.
Cops either slow or in on it.
Explaining this to the Italians is going to be difficult.
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The money obama "paid" iran wasn't coming from the US either but that made no difference then, why should it now that its more than 200 times that?
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On June 18 2026 02:42 Fleetfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2026 22:41 Simberto wrote:On June 17 2026 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On June 17 2026 21:53 Velr wrote:
Why do you even engage with him? You don't believe that oBlade is going to articulately explain in great detail, with mountains of evidence and reliable sources, why he thinks that Biden is a bigger criminal than Trump? That is definitively a thing that can totally happen. It would also lead me to assume that the real oBlade has been abducted by aliens and exchanged for a body snatcher. Maybe oBlade was never real and what we have now is the alien/bodysnatcher. The question would probably be better asked to dyhb, who I assume is less likely to actually agree with the statement, but is also likely much more capable of steelmanning it. (Not that I volunteer that extra work to dyhb) You all have such a bitter history with oBlade, that I’m tempted to call it a polyamorous marriage.
Wife 1: Why are we even talking right now?
Wife 2: He’s so fake
He can defend his own statements and go into counseling.
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The current conspiracy theory on the 300bn is that it is the frozen Russian assets, seems to be based on that 300bn is the amount of frozen Russian assets.
Strange coincidence that yet another Russian connection to Trump, like tariffing the entire world expect them. But as far as I can tell there no proof.
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If they had $300b they could move around at will it would've already gone to their own or their allies' bank accounts within a week of inauguration day.
No conspiracy here, it's just a Carthage-tier capitulation in the hopes that gas prices aren't over $4/gallon on midterms election day.
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Canada11594 Posts
On June 17 2026 23:25 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2026 21:23 oBlade wrote:On June 17 2026 17:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Had a dumb thought, assume the deal ever gets signed. What are the odds Trump tries to solve it the Trump way and just refuse to pay. So Trump declares total and complete victory and a few months from now Iran closes the strait again because the US isn't paying, and Trump pretends its not his fault anymore. Yes the US isn't paying. There is no "pay." Anyone who thinks so... nope. Like you can literally watch the linked video of Vance explaining Gulf States can invest in Iran if Iran grows up and behaves like a country, and somehow take away from that "Drumpf is sending $300 billion to Iran" - this borders on insanity. Nobody who took and passed civics in an American elementary school is for a moment shaken by such an absurd claim. It is not even physically possible. Like it is not even worth explaining. The President does not have a fucking Scrooge McDuck fund of trillions of dollars that he can just send wherever he wants. It does not exist. There is no legal mechanism for $300 billion dollars to exist and be sendable, to anyone. Maybe this is too unclear. After all, Drumpf is the biggest criminal since Biden. Why would he rely on the law. Don't misunderstand. There is no legal mechanism. There is no illegal mechanism. There is no mechanism. Even the $1.776 billion anti-weaponization fund, tapping into funds literally established by Congress, which the hysterics in this thread told me was a wire payment from the government to Trump, isn't happening. Suppose the war criminal Trump goes the legal way and you put it in a treaty. Okay, it needs two thirds of the Senate as a treaty, and needs to pass both houses of Congress as an enormous spending package. That is never happening in 300 billion years. Elementary schoolers don't fall for this bullshit lol. Of course some people aren't just falling for it. They know exactly what they're doing and are willfully perpetuating it. What apparently this whole thing is in reference to is if Iran behaves, they can get investment and partnerships with private companies from the Gulf States, Asia, South America, Africa, oh and the US? - so Iran can rejoin the community of nations and become dependent enough that they knock off the antisocial behavior. The fund's existence has been previously reported but Reuters is revealing for the first time that more than half of the amount has already been committed and that it will be comprised entirely of private-sector funds.
U.S. and Iranian officials said on Sunday they had agreed on a framework to end their war, which began when U.S. and Israeli forces attacked Iran on February 28, halt the U.S. blockade of Iran and reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a key supply route for global oil and gas.
The new fund is a private investment vehicle, not a reconstruction or reparations programme and will not include any government money or grants, the source said, adding that companies based in the U.S., the Gulf Arab states, Asia, South America and Africa have agreed to commit financing. That is probably better than just cutting them off from the world to be poor forever (hasn't worked in Cuba, and killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq by sanctions after the First Gulf War), although there are arguments on all sides, since it's private money they can do what they want after all, and if you don't like it, make your own multinational oil conglomerate. The US committed to them getting $300b. If someone else doesn't come up with the money then the US guaranteed the amount.
Maybe Mexico will pay for it! Because I'm sure the surrounding Sunni countries are champing at the bit to help reconstruct the Shiites.
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Hmmmm...........
All sides came to a formal agreement on October 1, 2018,[12] and U.S. president Donald Trump proposed USMCA during the G20 Summit the following month, where he, Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto, and Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau signed it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Mexico–Canada_Agreement
Art of the deal, baby!
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