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Northern Ireland26516 Posts
On April 07 2026 20:10 Vivax wrote: The only way to win with Trump is to emulate him. Basically go full outlaw. Grift with him. Trade shitcoins. Own the libs mashallah. If that‘s your thing.
He sure was a once in a lifetime opportunity for many who were willing to submit to him for personal gain.
At the end of the day I still view him as the guy whose role it is to act as the front for what‘s behind him. The bandits the Don made successful.
It‘s not like it‘s limited to the US either. His doings are capable of turning your surroundings into a nightmare, probably. It‘s not just limited to the news. Grift extended edition doesn‘t halt before Euro countries when they‘ve been sleeping on the job of not letting it.
Makes you wonder how many pockets of his ‚good soldiers‘ have been filled around here.
One day without some bullshit floating online around here would be stellar tbh. It really is a staggering level of corruption. Even the normal level may be still far from ideal, but my lord.
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Northern Ireland26516 Posts
On April 07 2026 11:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:unemployment is down to 4.3%. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/business/jobs-report-economyso the people claiming the USA economy is in a disastrous state continue to be wrong. Trump claiming the economy is super-amazing & great just alienates everyone.. because that is BS as well. Show nested quote +On April 07 2026 03:52 KwarK wrote:On April 07 2026 03:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: So 1980 Desert Claw was 250 troops to get 52 hostages rescued from locked up and armed guard. This alleged 2026 "rescue mission" for ONE HIDDEN GUY requires 200 troops. Things that make you hmmmmm....
Fortunately, Trump and his regime has an extensive track record of 100% total honesty. So if they say it was a rescue mission for 1 guy and nothing else ... I guess the official story is 100% true.
Tellin' ya, where is Ken Taylor when you need him? I see where you're going here. The real mission was a Zionist plot to get Charlie Kirk. they spent too much time explaining the whole elaborate operation. 7 planes over here... then we did this ... blah blah blah. When i ask you what colour the sky is and your reply is longer than Plato's Republic... you're lying. So I'm not buying that all that was to rescue 1 guy. They had the whole gang yapping about it. 155 aircraft for 1 guy? ya ok. they were up to something else. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-latest-news-updates-2026/card/second-mission-to-rescue-u-s-airman-took-155-aircraft-fAUuZAYswIDtWyz1E0hJKen Taylor rescued 6 American hostages in Iran all by himself. 155 aircraft? LOL I'll be going to a Blue Jays game next week just for the Moose Beer. Up to what?
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On April 08 2026 01:16 Billyboy wrote: That would be if they were using human shields for military targets. Like when Hamas puts a load of rockets under a hospital or daycare.
If the target is already off limits than it wouldn’t change things. I really hope this is not a forced thing from Iran, but them wanting a bunch of of their civilians to get bombed so the US looks worse is very on brand.
Those people wilfully gathering there also completely changes the situation from the hamas example I think. But also just because you hit civilians doesn't automatically make it a war crime, its about the what would we considered disproportional civilian casualties. There is more wiggle room in those laws than most of us would think, lots of things that the laymen would consider civilian infrastructure can be classified as for military use, and all that.
Safe to say though that I do not trust the US administration to make any of these judgements, actually I don't even expect them to consider it at all. The idiots at the top that is, trump and his gang.
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On April 08 2026 01:18 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2026 00:36 Jankisa wrote: No no, it's not "gambling", it's investing.
Crypto, always was and always will be, investing, see, it's not really a risk if you know the line will go up.
Polymarket, not gambling, smart people see these things ahead of time, they know that Bitcoin will go up over a certain amount because they are very smart, and even if it doesn't go they will see that it won't in time and make so much money back, again, smart investing.
Such a smart investor, this guy is, is that over the period he choose to brag about he made a whooping $206!
Just goes to show, if you spend a lot of time and dedication studying the world like our Breivik enjoyer here you can make enough to buy SC2 and all expansions! Gambling on political outcomes is dumb. Dumber still when the politicians themselves and their buddies are "betting" too, because insider trading isn't relevant on this platform for *reasons*. But gambling on bitcoin going over 130k just seems mindbogglingly stupid. Like... what possible other ways are there to make money off bitcoin going up? Who knows. Clearly the only way to go long on bitcoin is to buy a bet that pays off if it hits an arbitrary line!
You can be even more dumb and decide to invest in MicroStrategy, one of the most insane companies that I have ever heard of, the idea behind it is so stupid that Trump sons immediately decided to copy it!
The worse part is that markets are so unhinged and divorced form reality that there are still enough of greater fools buying this shit that it still occasionally rebounds from the staggering 53 % y2y loss of value.
I hate reality, it's so stupid...
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On April 08 2026 01:40 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2026 11:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:unemployment is down to 4.3%. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/business/jobs-report-economyso the people claiming the USA economy is in a disastrous state continue to be wrong. Trump claiming the economy is super-amazing & great just alienates everyone.. because that is BS as well. On April 07 2026 03:52 KwarK wrote:On April 07 2026 03:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: So 1980 Desert Claw was 250 troops to get 52 hostages rescued from locked up and armed guard. This alleged 2026 "rescue mission" for ONE HIDDEN GUY requires 200 troops. Things that make you hmmmmm....
Fortunately, Trump and his regime has an extensive track record of 100% total honesty. So if they say it was a rescue mission for 1 guy and nothing else ... I guess the official story is 100% true.
Tellin' ya, where is Ken Taylor when you need him? I see where you're going here. The real mission was a Zionist plot to get Charlie Kirk. they spent too much time explaining the whole elaborate operation. 7 planes over here... then we did this ... blah blah blah. When i ask you what colour the sky is and your reply is longer than Plato's Republic... you're lying. So I'm not buying that all that was to rescue 1 guy. They had the whole gang yapping about it. 155 aircraft for 1 guy? ya ok. they were up to something else. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-latest-news-updates-2026/card/second-mission-to-rescue-u-s-airman-took-155-aircraft-fAUuZAYswIDtWyz1E0hJKen Taylor rescued 6 American hostages in Iran all by himself. 155 aircraft? LOL I'll be going to a Blue Jays game next week just for the Moose Beer. Up to what?
The current conspiracy theory is they were there to retrieve enriched uranium from a site nearby but the OP was a bust and the pilots were both a diversion and a cover story.
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On April 08 2026 01:11 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2026 00:48 Jankisa wrote:On April 08 2026 00:00 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 07 2026 21:50 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote: "Whole civilization may die tonight" sounds like warcrimes, right? Also sounds like bluster, but hopefully if there's any truth to it he can't find anyone in the US military willing to carry out his war crimes and they all refuse the illegal orders. Hopefully he won't, especially since Iranians obviously get these news from the goverment and are now actively gathering on infrastructure and energy production potential targets, just in case it wasn't clear to "US WARFIGHTERS" that they are committing war crimes when they go after civilian targets: I believe those are called "human shields" and make the war crimes offset like flags in the NFL? Are you really this dense?
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On April 08 2026 02:14 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2026 01:40 WombaT wrote:On April 07 2026 11:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:unemployment is down to 4.3%. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/business/jobs-report-economyso the people claiming the USA economy is in a disastrous state continue to be wrong. Trump claiming the economy is super-amazing & great just alienates everyone.. because that is BS as well. On April 07 2026 03:52 KwarK wrote:On April 07 2026 03:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: So 1980 Desert Claw was 250 troops to get 52 hostages rescued from locked up and armed guard. This alleged 2026 "rescue mission" for ONE HIDDEN GUY requires 200 troops. Things that make you hmmmmm....
Fortunately, Trump and his regime has an extensive track record of 100% total honesty. So if they say it was a rescue mission for 1 guy and nothing else ... I guess the official story is 100% true.
Tellin' ya, where is Ken Taylor when you need him? I see where you're going here. The real mission was a Zionist plot to get Charlie Kirk. they spent too much time explaining the whole elaborate operation. 7 planes over here... then we did this ... blah blah blah. When i ask you what colour the sky is and your reply is longer than Plato's Republic... you're lying. So I'm not buying that all that was to rescue 1 guy. They had the whole gang yapping about it. 155 aircraft for 1 guy? ya ok. they were up to something else. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-latest-news-updates-2026/card/second-mission-to-rescue-u-s-airman-took-155-aircraft-fAUuZAYswIDtWyz1E0hJKen Taylor rescued 6 American hostages in Iran all by himself. 155 aircraft? LOL I'll be going to a Blue Jays game next week just for the Moose Beer. Up to what? The current conspiracy theory is they were there to retrieve enriched uranium from a site nearby but the OP was a bust and the pilots were both a diversion and a cover story.
I find it extremely laughable that anyone would think that the bozos from the Trump regime can pull anything like that off.
Trump is physically incapable of keeping shit to himself, he already divulged a bunch of secret information about attacks on the carrier, secret weapon in Venezuela, there is no chance in hell that this kind of plan within a plan type of shit would ever happen without him saying something about it and millions of bets being placed on Polymarket and other brain rot sites.
To me, the equipment lost in this was insane, I don't get why you'd land 2 huge planes with helicopters parked inside them while thinking you can get them up from an improvised air strip, but I do get that if the idea is no man left behind and spare no expense in doing that, throwing insane amounts of money at the problem is a good explanation on why they thought they could do this.
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On April 08 2026 02:23 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2026 02:14 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:On April 08 2026 01:40 WombaT wrote:On April 07 2026 11:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:unemployment is down to 4.3%. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/04/03/business/jobs-report-economyso the people claiming the USA economy is in a disastrous state continue to be wrong. Trump claiming the economy is super-amazing & great just alienates everyone.. because that is BS as well. On April 07 2026 03:52 KwarK wrote:On April 07 2026 03:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: So 1980 Desert Claw was 250 troops to get 52 hostages rescued from locked up and armed guard. This alleged 2026 "rescue mission" for ONE HIDDEN GUY requires 200 troops. Things that make you hmmmmm....
Fortunately, Trump and his regime has an extensive track record of 100% total honesty. So if they say it was a rescue mission for 1 guy and nothing else ... I guess the official story is 100% true.
Tellin' ya, where is Ken Taylor when you need him? I see where you're going here. The real mission was a Zionist plot to get Charlie Kirk. they spent too much time explaining the whole elaborate operation. 7 planes over here... then we did this ... blah blah blah. When i ask you what colour the sky is and your reply is longer than Plato's Republic... you're lying. So I'm not buying that all that was to rescue 1 guy. They had the whole gang yapping about it. 155 aircraft for 1 guy? ya ok. they were up to something else. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-latest-news-updates-2026/card/second-mission-to-rescue-u-s-airman-took-155-aircraft-fAUuZAYswIDtWyz1E0hJKen Taylor rescued 6 American hostages in Iran all by himself. 155 aircraft? LOL I'll be going to a Blue Jays game next week just for the Moose Beer. Up to what? The current conspiracy theory is they were there to retrieve enriched uranium from a site nearby but the OP was a bust and the pilots were both a diversion and a cover story. I find it extremely laughable that anyone would think that the bozos from the Trump regime can pull anything like that off. Trump is physically incapable of keeping shit to himself, he already divulged a bunch of secret information about attacks on the carrier, secret weapon in Venezuela, there is no chance in hell that this kind of plan within a plan type of shit would ever happen without him saying something about it and millions of bets being placed on Polymarket and other brain rot sites. To me, the equipment lost in this was insane, I don't get why you'd land 2 huge planes with helicopters parked inside them while thinking you can get them up from an improvised air strip, but I do get that if the idea is no man left behind and spare no expense in doing that, throwing insane amounts of money at the problem is a good explanation on why they thought they could do this.
I mean they did do it. And if the planes hadn't sunk into the sand because the agricultural runway was just a bit softer than expected they wouldn't have lost any planes or helicopters either. A C130 can take of from most runways.
It's an example of what the US army can do when given a clear objective. This guy is here. This is the amount of enemy troops in the area. Get him out. Someone estimated the amount of force needed to extract him. Someone else estimated the logistics and figured out they needed a stopping point because the assets needed couldn't do a return trip. Intel found a suitable runway. Airforce and intelligence created protection and diversion, assets went in and got the guy.
It's a perfectly logical chain of events.
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Canada11477 Posts
It also makes sense to spare no expense if they are unsure what their base's tolerance level is for lost American lives. Whether Trump promised it or not, his base managed to convince themselves that Trump was the peace candidate, and they would get no forever wars in the Middle East. So much so that in some quarters of MAGA they began talking about how Churchill was the chief villain of WWII- very likely to justify forcing Ukraine to surrender to Russia. (It's what a misquoted Churchill claims he wishes they had done to avoid a war on the continent.)
Now, Trump has proven his base didn't care that much about no wars as long as America looks big and tough, kidnapping presidents and flinging missiles from a distance. But this is post-Iraq and he still hasn't tested their tolerance for boots on the ground. So minimizing any loss at any cost makes sense. Threatening to glass Iran also follows with this line of thinking from the President of Peace.
And hell, I can't see the rank and file complaining that their bosses are willing to spend the resources to rescue them. In many respects the US military is the polar opposite of the Russian military. If money can save lives, they will spend it. Willing manpower is the finite resource, not money. Whereas Russia sends out the meatwaves.
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The screenshot from baal doesn't show how much he won or lost, just partially shows how much he bet.
It looks to me like he bet against btc going to 130k buying "no" at 81c. So presumably he's going to end up with +192$ on that bet. He lost 300$ on the tiktok bet and got paid 430$ on hunter's pardon but we don't know how much he bought those "yes" for. The other bets are just trading at certain price point but we don't know how much he won or lost.
Betting on prices of assets going to certain levels isn't stupid per se, it's the whole point of Future markets. If you believe btc will maybe go up but definitely not reach 130k, there's really not simple way to bet on that with just longing and shorting.
Betting in general isn't particularly dumb either. For one it can be fun if you don't bet huge amounts. Think of it like playing the lottery. Negative EV but once in a while it's still fun to do. Also some bets can be winning bets if the market is giving you good odds due to lack of liquidity for exemple. Or if you're just exploiting people being stupid (there are some bets where the question is "will christ return before 2027?", also the payouts rarely beat fees + inflation).
Anyways, I don't bet.
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On April 08 2026 02:15 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2026 01:11 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 08 2026 00:48 Jankisa wrote:On April 08 2026 00:00 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 07 2026 21:50 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote: "Whole civilization may die tonight" sounds like warcrimes, right? Also sounds like bluster, but hopefully if there's any truth to it he can't find anyone in the US military willing to carry out his war crimes and they all refuse the illegal orders. Hopefully he won't, especially since Iranians obviously get these news from the goverment and are now actively gathering on infrastructure and energy production potential targets, just in case it wasn't clear to "US WARFIGHTERS" that they are committing war crimes when they go after civilian targets: I believe those are called "human shields" and make the war crimes offset like flags in the NFL? Are you really this dense? It was sardonic sarcasm about that being so many people's "reality". Examples:
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Well, those people are clearly idiots who have no idea what a human shield is.
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The US will A) let Israel do the bombing because they don't give a fuck about war crimes or B) use Israel's "justification" for committing war crimes: the IRGC has tunnels under that power plant with a secret command center.
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On April 08 2026 03:05 Geiko wrote: The screenshot from baal doesn't show how much he won or lost, just partially shows how much he bet.
It looks to me like he bet against btc going to 130k buying "no" at 81c. So presumably he's going to end up with +192$ on that bet. He lost 300$ on the tiktok bet and got paid 430$ on hunter's pardon but we don't know how much he bought those "yes" for. The other bets are just trading at certain price point but we don't know how much he won or lost.
Betting on prices of assets going to certain levels isn't stupid per se, it's the whole point of Future markets. If you believe btc will maybe go up but definitely not reach 130k, there's really not simple way to bet on that with just longing and shorting.
Betting in general isn't particularly dumb either. For one it can be fun if you don't bet huge amounts. Think of it like playing the lottery. Negative EV but once in a while it's still fun to do. Also some bets can be winning bets if the market is giving you good odds due to lack of liquidity for exemple. Or if you're just exploiting people being stupid (there are some bets where the question is "will christ return before 2027?", also the payouts rarely beat fees + inflation).
Anyways, I don't bet.
I personally don't really understand enough on how these markets work, or care enough to learn, so I added up + and - and posted the difference.
I personally think that anyone who is not already a millionaire who thinks they are smart enough to beat the system, the insiders and the whales is pretty stupid, of course, there are lucky few who actually get rich off this, but the vast majority of people participating are losing and convincing themselves otherwise.
I really dislike the "betting in general can be fun" attitude because it leads to it being legalized and pushed to everyone, aggressively pushed, targeting the people with worse impulse controls and destroying millions of lives world wide, to me, that is not fun.
To me, this whole industry, together with futures markets, puts, shorts, all of this is a playground for the very rich to exploit the ones with less, the effect this has on the world his horrific and it's going to get worse the longer its left unregulated, crypto and prediction markets are a direct result of this metastasizing.
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On April 08 2026 03:58 Acrofales wrote: The US will A) let Israel do the bombing because they don't give a fuck about war crimes or B) use Israel's "justification" for committing war crimes: the IRGC has tunnels under that power plant with a secret command center. There were a shit ton of tunnels in Gaza. There is plenty of real shit Israel has done, do you really have to make shit up?
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On April 08 2026 03:58 Acrofales wrote: The US will A) let Israel do the bombing because they don't give a fuck about war crimes or B) use Israel's "justification" for committing war crimes: the IRGC has tunnels under that power plant with a secret command center.
Trump said himself that Iranians are animals and not people so bombing their power plants and bridges isn't a war crime.
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Trump is really hard to listen to. Whatever happened to the Mickey Mantle type of American? Mickey Mantle is one of the greatest baseball hitters of all time. A lot more Americans used to behave like Mickey Mantle? what happened?
"After I hit a home run I had a habit of running the bases with my head down. I figured the pitcher already felt bad enough without me showing him up rounding the bases."
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On April 08 2026 04:10 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2026 03:05 Geiko wrote: The screenshot from baal doesn't show how much he won or lost, just partially shows how much he bet.
It looks to me like he bet against btc going to 130k buying "no" at 81c. So presumably he's going to end up with +192$ on that bet. He lost 300$ on the tiktok bet and got paid 430$ on hunter's pardon but we don't know how much he bought those "yes" for. The other bets are just trading at certain price point but we don't know how much he won or lost.
Betting on prices of assets going to certain levels isn't stupid per se, it's the whole point of Future markets. If you believe btc will maybe go up but definitely not reach 130k, there's really not simple way to bet on that with just longing and shorting.
Betting in general isn't particularly dumb either. For one it can be fun if you don't bet huge amounts. Think of it like playing the lottery. Negative EV but once in a while it's still fun to do. Also some bets can be winning bets if the market is giving you good odds due to lack of liquidity for exemple. Or if you're just exploiting people being stupid (there are some bets where the question is "will christ return before 2027?", also the payouts rarely beat fees + inflation).
Anyways, I don't bet. I personally don't really understand enough on how these markets work, or care enough to learn, so I added up + and - and posted the difference. I personally think that anyone who is not already a millionaire who thinks they are smart enough to beat the system, the insiders and the whales is pretty stupid, of course, there are lucky few who actually get rich off this, but the vast majority of people participating are losing and convincing themselves otherwise. I really dislike the "betting in general can be fun" attitude because it leads to it being legalized and pushed to everyone, aggressively pushed, targeting the people with worse impulse controls and destroying millions of lives world wide, to me, that is not fun. To me, this whole industry, together with futures markets, puts, shorts, all of this is a playground for the very rich to exploit the ones with less, the effect this has on the world his horrific and it's going to get worse the longer its left unregulated, crypto and prediction markets are a direct result of this metastasizing.
I would assume you don't drink alcoholic beverages or smoke and you apply the same reasoning to going out for a drink with your friends?
(To give some contex i dont drink or smoke and dont really bet or play lotos or such...but it felt a strange take to have against "gambling can be fun"....i make the same argument about drinking tho)
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United States43841 Posts
On April 08 2026 01:46 Artesimo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2026 01:16 Billyboy wrote: That would be if they were using human shields for military targets. Like when Hamas puts a load of rockets under a hospital or daycare.
If the target is already off limits than it wouldn’t change things. I really hope this is not a forced thing from Iran, but them wanting a bunch of of their civilians to get bombed so the US looks worse is very on brand. Those people wilfully gathering there also completely changes the situation from the hamas example I think. But also just because you hit civilians doesn't automatically make it a war crime, its about the what would we considered disproportional civilian casualties. There is more wiggle room in those laws than most of us would think, lots of things that the laymen would consider civilian infrastructure can be classified as for military use, and all that. Safe to say though that I do not trust the US administration to make any of these judgements, actually I don't even expect them to consider it at all. The idiots at the top that is, trump and his gang. The thing here is that maybe there are acceptable civilian casualties while attacking a military target depending on the care taken to limit them and the number but there aren’t acceptable civilian casualties while attacking a civilian target for the purposes of terror.
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United States43841 Posts
On April 08 2026 03:05 Geiko wrote: Betting on prices of assets going to certain levels isn't stupid per se, it's the whole point of Future markets. If you believe btc will maybe go up but definitely not reach 130k, there's really not simple way to bet on that with just longing and shorting. Calls and puts exist. What you’re hypothesizing would be a bull call spread, something like buying a call at 100k while simultaneously selling a call at 130k. If the price went to 120k then you’d book 20k profit on your 100k call plus whatever you were paid for the 130k call you sold. If the price went to 150k then you’d make 50k on the 100k call but lose 20k on the 130k call you sold.
Doing it with prop bets is absurd.
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