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On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today.
The legitimate targets that were deeply involved with the US military will be remembered as innocent victims. Probably drones instead of planes, though.
With Trump piss off Europe, it makes me wonder how bad things would need to get for history to get properly re-evaluated. What would make considering the US potentially hostile the norm? Or accept that countries may need to seek allies from those that are available, even in cases where those countries are like China or Russia.
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Northern Ireland26785 Posts
On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today.
Was it Ron Paul who was roundly booed around a primary for merely making the point that 9/11 didn’t happen for absolutely no reason?
Happy cake day!
I’ve long found it odd that the most nationalistic, jingoistic people frequently seem to not understand that other folks elsewhere may feel the same way towards their own locales.
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On March 01 2026 00:02 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. Was it Ron Paul who was roundly booed around a primary for merely making the point that 9/11 didn’t happen for absolutely no reason? Happy cake day! I’ve long found it odd that the most nationalistic, jingoistic people frequently seem to not understand that other folks elsewhere may feel the same way towards their own locales. Thank you.
And I think nationalism requires a certain lack of empathy, someone who understands other people can be just as nationalistic for their locales also understands that one people are not more important then another.
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On March 01 2026 00:00 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. 1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia. 2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners. One couldn’t make a critique of the shiftless right wing warmonger more effective than simply letting displays of logic like this speak for themselves. Hilarious, tragic, Sad!
My biggest fear is not that if we don't allow an apocalyptic theocracy, which funds multiple terrorist organizations, wants to erase Israel from the map, launches missiles at the US and allies, has to hire Islamist groups from neighboring countries as mercenaries to terrorize its own people because the regime is too cruel for its own army, tortures and executes hundreds of thousands of its own people - that if we don't allow them to develop nuclear weapons, someone might fly an airplane into a building in 30 years.
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United States43987 Posts
On March 01 2026 00:46 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2026 00:00 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. 1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia. 2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners. One couldn’t make a critique of the shiftless right wing warmonger more effective than simply letting displays of logic like this speak for themselves. Hilarious, tragic, Sad! My biggest fear is not that if we don't allow an apocalyptic theocracy, which funds multiple terrorist organizations, wants to erase Israel from the map, launches missiles at the US and allies, has to hire Islamist groups from neighboring countries as mercenaries to terrorize its own people because the regime is too cruel for its own army, tortures and executes hundreds of thousands of its own people - that if we don't allow them to develop nuclear weapons, someone might fly an airplane into a building in 30 years.
well sure, your biggest fear is a black woman as president, but how is that relevant right now?
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Apocalyptic theocracy can be applied to the US as well. Some of them act like they‘re the chosen of god in the end days. But it‘s not psychosis, they really believe that. If it‘s not true, they‘ll help a little in making the end days more probable with a few nudges here and there.
At some point you got to realize that dangerous lunatics are at the helm of superpowers.
A bay of pigs moment. The wording gives some room for interpretation…
It is an important region, but still… Can‘t hide the fact that the war is an offensive one.
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On March 01 2026 00:46 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2026 00:00 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. 1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia. 2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners. One couldn’t make a critique of the shiftless right wing warmonger more effective than simply letting displays of logic like this speak for themselves. Hilarious, tragic, Sad! My biggest fear is not that if we don't allow an apocalyptic theocracy, which funds multiple terrorist organizations, wants to erase Israel from the map, launches missiles at the US and allies, has to hire Islamist groups from neighboring countries as mercenaries to terrorize its own people because the regime is too cruel for its own army, tortures and executes hundreds of thousands of its own people - that if we don't allow them to develop nuclear weapons, someone might fly an airplane into a building in 30 years.
"this time it will be different".-daddy Trump with the pinky promise.
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On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL.
Is this just emotional, or are you seriously calling for US service members to refuse orders and abandon their posts to avoid the consequences of their governments actions?
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United States43987 Posts
On March 01 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. Is this just emotional, or are you seriously calling for US service members to refuse orders and abandon their posts to avoid the consequences of their governments actions?
GH when he hears about direct action for the first time.
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On March 01 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. Is this just emotional, or are you seriously calling for US service members to refuse orders and abandon their posts to avoid the consequences of their governments actions?
I'm a veteran so I get what the issue is. I'm calling for them to refuse orders and to abandon their posts should (and all likelihood will be) these orders be illegal. You sign a contract, you're more or less beholden to that contract. But to go gung-ho on some bullshit orders is not what they should be doing. It needs to start at the top and the rest will follow. Some Generals need to protest before anything meaningful happens.
On March 01 2026 02:53 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2026 02:48 GreenHorizons wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. Is this just emotional, or are you seriously calling for US service members to refuse orders and abandon their posts to avoid the consequences of their governments actions? GH when he hears about direct action for the first time.
Pretty sure he orgasmed lol
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On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. 1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia. 2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners.
Yeah it's totally about the nuclear weapons and not at all about all that oil Iran is sitting on.
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Should I start calling him "child molester Donald W. Bush" or "child molester George W. Trump"?
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The easiest rebuttal to these tweets of his is that context changes and that what was true 10 years ago isn't necessarily the case today.
In any case, I don't really see the immediate reason to attack Iran but I also don't have the entire intelligence apparatus from (one of) the strongest country at my disposal.
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Canada11512 Posts
On March 01 2026 00:46 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2026 00:00 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. 1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia. 2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners. One couldn’t make a critique of the shiftless right wing warmonger more effective than simply letting displays of logic like this speak for themselves. Hilarious, tragic, Sad! My biggest fear is not that if we don't allow an apocalyptic theocracy, which funds multiple terrorist organizations, wants to erase Israel from the map, launches missiles at the US and allies, has to hire Islamist groups from neighboring countries as mercenaries to terrorize its own people because the regime is too cruel for its own army, tortures and executes hundreds of thousands of its own people - that if we don't allow them to develop nuclear weapons, someone might fly an airplane into a building in 30 years.
So did Trump obliterate Iran's nuclear facilities in 2025 or not?
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On March 01 2026 00:49 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2026 00:46 oBlade wrote:On March 01 2026 00:00 farvacola wrote:On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. 1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia. 2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners. One couldn’t make a critique of the shiftless right wing warmonger more effective than simply letting displays of logic like this speak for themselves. Hilarious, tragic, Sad! My biggest fear is not that if we don't allow an apocalyptic theocracy, which funds multiple terrorist organizations, wants to erase Israel from the map, launches missiles at the US and allies, has to hire Islamist groups from neighboring countries as mercenaries to terrorize its own people because the regime is too cruel for its own army, tortures and executes hundreds of thousands of its own people - that if we don't allow them to develop nuclear weapons, someone might fly an airplane into a building in 30 years. well sure, your biggest fear is a black woman as president, but how is that relevant right now?
Nothing to say -> Do a "durr racism." Never fails.
On March 01 2026 03:09 Geiko wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL. The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today. 1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia. 2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners. Yeah it's totally about the nuclear weapons and not at all about all that oil Iran is sitting on.
"It" is certainly about multiple things, like most of life and the world, many of which were in my next post.
Iran sells oil skirting around and in defiance of sanctions on its oil. The US doesn't particularly need Iranian oil, it has domestic production, Canada, and allies/partners in the Persian Gulf already, like for example Kuwait, whose airport Iran just brilliantly decided to bomb in their mostly peaceful pursuit of trying to be safe from American imperialism while acquiring nuclear weapons it would definitely never use (?).
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On March 01 2026 03:18 Uldridge wrote:
The easiest rebuttal to these tweets of his is that context changes and that what was true 10 years ago isn't necessarily the case today.
In any case, I don't really see the immediate reason to attack Iran but I also don't have the entire intelligence apparatus from (one of) the strongest country at my disposal.
I mean, it's not like he was listening to them anyway. From a postmortem of the previous attacks on Iran: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-iran-attack-no-intel-nuclear-1235369641/
"Based on Vibes, Sources Say"
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The nuclear bomb boogeyman is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. After listening to the Iran foreign minister guy and Emperor Trump ... I am on Iran's side in this one.
I wonder if we'll get a false flag Iranian terrorist attack on US soil.
The 50% tariff on aluminum is working great! Aluminum in the USA is now double the global price. Michigan Stellantis workers are not getting a profit sharing bonus for the first time in years. Perhaps Trump's crack staff of libertarians are projecting Stellantis will move off of Aluminum and Steel and switch to Reardan Metal. Who cares if every US based manufacturer is paying artificially jacked up prices for aluminum and steel.
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On March 01 2026 03:18 Uldridge wrote:
The easiest rebuttal to these tweets of his is that context changes and that what was true 10 years ago isn't necessarily the case today.
In any case, I don't really see the immediate reason to attack Iran but I also don't have the entire intelligence apparatus from (one of) the strongest country at my disposal.
The Iran attacks are so hard to analyze because in a vacuum weakening a awful repressive colonial dictatorship that was horrendous to its own people (10,000 killed recently among other crimes against humanity. As well as crimes and destabilization outside its border.
Sadly every time even competent leadership try's this it works outs terribly long term. And the timing is so questionable. If this was the plan why not do it doing the uprising? Maybe you would have actually accomplished a Iranian revolution had you done it then.
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On March 01 2026 03:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
The nuclear bomb boogeyman is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. After listening to the Iran foreign minister guy and Emperor Trump ... I am on Iran's side in this one.
I wonder if we'll get a false flag Iranian terrorist attack on US soil.
The 50% tariff on aluminum is working great! Aluminum in the USA is now double the global price. Michigan Stellantis workers are not getting a profit sharing bonus for the first time in years. Perhaps Trump's crack staff of libertarians are projecting Stellantis will move off of Aluminum and Steel and switch to Reardan Metal. Who cares if every US based manufacturer is paying artificially jacked up prices for aluminum and steel.
So it seems that Oligopoly combined with tariffs just means prices increases on domestic products to the tariff level? Since there is no competition within the market with surplus capacity they want to sell vs just everybody charging the max and producing a bit less.
Kind of the same thing the US has had issues with in other areas where foreign competition is hard (such as bulk food deliveries to restaurants).
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