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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
February 28 2026 07:54 GMT
#110441
*sigh*
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46484 Posts
February 28 2026 08:07 GMT
#110442
More information on that:

Israel and the U.S. have launched what Israel describes as a preemptive military strike against Iran, amid weeks of escalating tensions and heightened U.S. military presence in the region.

A person briefed on the operation told NPR the strike is being conducted jointly with the U.S. There was no immediate U.S. comment about the strikes.

Iranian government media report rocket fire in parts of the capital, Tehran. State television has broadcast footage showing smoke rising after a blast in the city. The extent of the damage and potential casualties has not yet been confirmed.

Air raid sirens sounded across Israel at approximately 8:15 a.m. local time, warning civilians to prepare to enter bomb shelters.

In an official statement, Israel's Defense Minister Israel Katz described the operation as a preemptive action aimed at neutralizing threats against Israel.

"As a result, a missile and drone attack against the State of Israel and its civilian population is expected in the immediate future."

He stated that missile and drone attacks from Iran were expected imminently. A 48-hour state of emergency has been declared nationwide.

Israel has closed its airspace to all passenger flights, and civil defense protocols have been activated. Regional military forces remain on high alert.

The strike follows weeks of speculation about potential military action against Iran, particularly amid a significant U.S. military buildup in the Middle East.

This is a developing story and will be updated.
https://www.npr.org/2026/02/28/nx-s1-5730158/israel-iran-strikes

So even Israel admits that they and the U.S. are preemptively attacking potential threats, yet also expecting retaliation for their attacks. Self-fulfilling prophecy. Sigh.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
February 28 2026 09:37 GMT
#110443
*sigh*

Again...
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22630 Posts
February 28 2026 10:24 GMT
#110444
Hey remember when Kamala shouldn't be President because she would lead America into wars...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland597 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-28 10:31:47
February 28 2026 10:25 GMT
#110445
It is funny that a decade ago, there was a deal made by Obama, but now there seems to be little in the future that would stabilise the situation around Iran. It is not believable that there are any stable long-term goals with the current regimes of the USA and Israel. Regime change in Iran would not remove weapons from all factions that support the current regime and are thus likely to strike against the new one. It is unclear to me how well-organised the potential replacement currently is. What would their capabilities be in the future, where they replace the current regime? Iran would still have similar regional strategist intresses agaisnt Saudi Arabia and Israel, and would not want to give decades for them to act as they please. Any regime that leans too hard on the Trump regime is in jeopardy as soon as Trump is out of power. Any state building is meaningless, as the USA is not interested in doing it, even in the USA. Strikes against the Iranian regime give support to the claim that Iran can only protect itself with nuclear weapons, and it is beginning to be hard to see how that is not the case.

Forcing bad deals has historically soured situations. This is sometimes remembered but also popular way to please Trump. Hard to see why Iran would go for a deal that can not be trusted to stay intact. It is also hard to get the other side to agree afterwards that a deal is shitty and have the deal changed. Dropping out later would get them blamed for worsening the situation, as how the deal was reached would be conveniently forgotten by then.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8195 Posts
February 28 2026 12:13 GMT
#110446
On February 28 2026 19:24 Gorsameth wrote:
Hey remember when Kamala shouldn't be President because she would lead America into wars...

Remember when Hillary was going to attack Iran and start world war 3?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22415 Posts
February 28 2026 13:04 GMT
#110447
Curious to see if it turns out they were enriching uranium for nukes…
If the info is reliable at this point.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22630 Posts
February 28 2026 13:15 GMT
#110448
On February 28 2026 22:04 Vivax wrote:
Curious to see if it turns out they were enriching uranium for nukes…
If the info is reliable at this point.
They have been repeatedly threatened with regime change, and the US and Israel have followed up on those threats with both Iran and other countries.

I would be shocked if they were not trying to get nukes, its the only thing that could protect them from a very real and immediate threat.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
February 28 2026 13:18 GMT
#110449
I'm tired boss.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17847 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-02-28 13:25:12
February 28 2026 13:23 GMT
#110450
https://iran.liveuamap.com/en

Here's a link to the map updated live with major events happening in the region (like Iran blowing up US naval base in Bahrain).

Video reel from that:
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1566368144662421
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
February 28 2026 13:33 GMT
#110451
Anthropic says no AI deal. OpenAI says okay and boom, literally. WTF is this administration doing? I bet Altman is Pokemon face right now. This shit is so stupid.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18450 Posts
February 28 2026 13:37 GMT
#110452
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/22/world/middleeast/iran-larijani-khamenei-pezeshkian.html

Article from a week ago on Iranian war preparations. It seems like they learned from last year and had prepared. We'll see how well it ages, but regardless of what Iran manages to do to the US and its allies, it seems very very unlikely they will be brought down by an internal uprising. So what the fuck is the plan here? Toss bombs, hang up sign saying "Mission Accomplished" and sail away again in a week, leaving the entire world with an even stronger conviction that the US is not to be trusted or reasoned with, and the only real defense is nuclear? I'm sure glad Donald "Nobel Peace Prize" Trump is in charge. Imagine if there were an actual warmonger like #Hillary in the White House!
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
February 28 2026 13:41 GMT
#110453
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27459 Posts
February 28 2026 14:01 GMT
#110454
On February 28 2026 22:33 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Anthropic says no AI deal. OpenAI says okay and boom, literally. WTF is this administration doing? I bet Altman is Pokemon face right now. This shit is so stupid.

“The United States of America will never allow a radical left, woke company to dictate how our great military fights and wins wars!” he wrote in all caps

Fucking hell lmao
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27459 Posts
February 28 2026 14:02 GMT
#110455
On February 28 2026 22:18 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I'm tired boss.

You and me both brother
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1757 Posts
February 28 2026 14:10 GMT
#110456
With each day, and with all his flaws, I miss Obama more and more. As big of a joke his Nobel peace prize was, it was prophetic.

The guy normalized relations with Cuba, now Trump is starving them out.

The Iran deal was negotiated under him, Trump killed it in first term, poisoned the relationship by assassinating Soleimani on his way out and now him and Nethyanahu are going all in on a regime change war.

I really miss that pre 2016 world, where we had reasons for optimism and hope for a future that gravitates towards peace and democracy, not this fucking authoritarian, warmongering hellscape.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9066 Posts
February 28 2026 14:27 GMT
#110457
On February 28 2026 23:10 Jankisa wrote:
With each day, and with all his flaws, I miss Obama more and more. As big of a joke his Nobel peace prize was, it was prophetic.

The guy normalized relations with Cuba, now Trump is starving them out.

The Iran deal was negotiated under him, Trump killed it in first term, poisoned the relationship by assassinating Soleimani on his way out and now him and Nethyanahu are going all in on a regime change war.

I really miss that pre 2016 world, where we had reasons for optimism and hope for a future that gravitates towards peace and democracy, not this fucking authoritarian, warmongering hellscape.

Blame the people in this thread that cheered for and helped bring this back. This is comeuppance for that. And they'll stay silent while cheering in their parents basement.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22630 Posts
February 28 2026 14:45 GMT
#110458
On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL.
The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6540 Posts
February 28 2026 14:53 GMT
#110459
On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL.
The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today.

1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia.

2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
February 28 2026 15:00 GMT
#110460
On February 28 2026 23:53 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2026 23:45 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 28 2026 22:41 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
At this point, the US deserves every bad thing that happens to it and then some. It's stomach-churning. I wish the military canon fodder wasn't involved in this stupid shit, but hey, that's life. Hopefully the majority understand what it means and get out ASAP or just AWOL.
The thing is that when another plane flies into a tower 30 years from now, people won't remember it will be because of America's actions today.

1) Osama ordered the 9/11 attacks despite the US specifically directly supporting the mujahideen against the Soviet Empire in Central Asia.

2) History and science indicate nuclear weapons are more powerful than airliners.

One couldn’t make a critique of the shiftless right wing warmonger more effective than simply letting displays of logic like this speak for themselves. Hilarious, tragic, Sad!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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