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On October 01 2025 04:14 Jankisa wrote:
Just watched a few excerpts from Hegeseth's speech to the generals.
What the fuck even was that, jesus christ, the incredibly cringe *looks at the camera and says "to our enemies, FAFO"* moment, I mean how fucking stupid Americans are that they think this is cool or that this is someone who should be in charge of the most powerful army the world has ever seen?
I'm beginning to be fully on board with KwarK's theory that Americans are just, overall completely shifted to the right and irredeemable, even if GH's fantasy of AmeriMaidan happened, there would be plenty of Hegseth's who would be lining up to aim the hellfire missiles at crowds and press the button and Trump's approval rating would barely budge.
Grim shit.
He actually said, "to our enemies, FAFO?" Did he say "fafo" like people try to pronounce "lol" or did he say the full fuck around and find out? Nevermind, I mean I don't even need to hear any more. That one line, that's a very bad omen just by itself.
Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth needs to learn to behave and be a lot nicer when talking about America's enemies.
Also, Trump is way too friendly with America's enemies like Putin.
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United States43469 Posts
On October 01 2025 04:14 Jankisa wrote:
Just watched a few excerpts from Hegeseth's speech to the generals.
What the fuck even was that, jesus christ, the incredibly cringe *looks at the camera and says "to our enemies, FAFO"* moment, I mean how fucking stupid Americans are that they think this is cool or that this is someone who should be in charge of the most powerful army the world has ever seen?
I'm beginning to be fully on board with KwarK's theory that Americans are just, overall completely shifted to the right and irredeemable, even if GH's fantasy of AmeriMaidan happened, there would be plenty of Hegseth's who would be lining up to aim the hellfire missiles at crowds and press the button and Trump's approval rating would barely budge.
Grim shit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/90i373/til_that_a_week_after_the_kent_state_massacre_in/
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United States43469 Posts
oblade, out of curiosity, do you remember what it was like to post in good faith?
"you say the sec def shouldn't be acting like a fucking weeb and yet you also say that the potus shouldn't regurgitate russian propaganda all the time. defend your hypocrisy. i am very smart."
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On October 01 2025 04:18 Uldridge wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2025 02:32 Sadist wrote:
Can we substitute kicking them when their down for punching down and move on? This is a dumb discussion.
But those poor Democrats. They're down on their luck and you're rubbing it in!? That's just evil, man.
Alms! Alms!
For the miserable Democrats
On a miserable fascist morning
Your donation of $20 could make the difference!
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On October 01 2025 04:27 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2025 04:18 Uldridge wrote:On October 01 2025 02:32 Sadist wrote:
Can we substitute kicking them when their down for punching down and move on? This is a dumb discussion.
But those poor Democrats. They're down on their luck and you're rubbing it in!? That's just evil, man. Alms! Alms! For the miserable Democrats On a miserable fascist morning Your donation of $20 could make the difference!
Is it easier to make changes living in a potential fascist/autocratic system or with at best a negligent party in power?
If you were a brown immigrant right now in the US i think its pretty clear which party youd rather live under. You dont have to worry about getting dissappeared to el salvador with the adults in charge.
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On October 01 2025 01:55 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2025 00:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 01 2025 00:15 KwarK wrote:On October 01 2025 00:03 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 30 2025 23:55 KwarK wrote:On September 30 2025 23:42 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 30 2025 23:36 LightSpectra wrote:
You're so proud of that attempted dunk on me that you're linking back to it, without ever checking that there were in fact quite a lot of documented cases of Germans verbally regretting not voting for the SPD to keep the Nazis out of power.
It was eye opening a few pages back when you were calling for an American equivalent to EuroMaidan, cited the Italian strike as inspiration, someone who was actually there said "yeah this is just like the 50501 protests" and you recoiled in disgust because that's a lib/dem/ilk-organized protest. You like to not quote me and then make stuff up. That's not conducive to a reasonable discussion. Fucking lol I know you have some specific examples in mind, go ahead and link them. + Show Spoiler +Well there's that time that I argued that the workers hate you and your revolution and would beat you with sticks if it came to that and you spent three years insisting that I was a brownshirt who was planning to attack you.
Or there's the time that I argued that if we charted US President awfulness with awfulness on the Y and time on the X then the trendline would show awfulness declining over time, even with Trump on there. Not because I liked Trump, I was very clear on that issue, but because the level of historical awfulness is just so high. You spent years insisting that I celebrated the result of the 2016 election because of that. Basically you can go fuck yourself. Now and forever. Cool links. Any luck on those citations for quite a lot of documented cases of Germans verbally regretting not voting for the SPD to keep the Nazis out of power ? Anyone familiar with those citations? I'm not going to go trudging through archives to win an Internet argument, but one of the main examples I was thinking of was Friedrich Kellner's diary. If you've ever heard the "Who carries the blame? The people without a brain! To trample democracy with one’s feet and give power to a single man..." quote, it's from that. He was an activist for the SPD.
Surely this purported "fact" I should have known, that there are "quite a lot of documented cases of Germans verbally regretting not voting for the SPD to keep the Nazis out of power", wouldn't be limited to this singular example (from someone that voted SPD?) that you find too bulwarked to actually support your statement.
I'm sure anyone doing something as simple as googling any variation of "a lot of documented cases of Germans verbally regretting not voting for the SPD to keep the Nazis out of power" (which I presume includes you) has noticed that the results don't support your assertion of fact.
That Kwark didn't come up with something doesn't bode well either.
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On October 01 2025 04:33 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2025 04:27 Zambrah wrote:On October 01 2025 04:18 Uldridge wrote:On October 01 2025 02:32 Sadist wrote:
Can we substitute kicking them when their down for punching down and move on? This is a dumb discussion.
But those poor Democrats. They're down on their luck and you're rubbing it in!? That's just evil, man. Alms! Alms! For the miserable Democrats On a miserable fascist morning Your donation of $20 could make the difference! Is it easier to make changes living in a potential fascist/autocratic system or with at best a negligent party in power? If you were a brown immigrant right now in the US i think its pretty clear which party youd rather live under. You dont have to worry about getting dissappeared to el salvador with the adults in charge.
I want Democrats to be successful electorally, I also want them to take some responsibility for their electoral failures so they can do better in the future, which they seem really, really, really intent on not doing.
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Theres not even agreement on why they did poorly electorally. I dont think you guys understand how difficult it is to breakthrough to some voters. Depending on where you live your demands might be diamtrecially opposed. A unifying message about economics and healthcare is pretty universal and would work, but the purity tests on other issues can be a non starter for some people.
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On October 01 2025 04:36 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2025 04:33 Sadist wrote:On October 01 2025 04:27 Zambrah wrote:On October 01 2025 04:18 Uldridge wrote:On October 01 2025 02:32 Sadist wrote:
Can we substitute kicking them when their down for punching down and move on? This is a dumb discussion.
But those poor Democrats. They're down on their luck and you're rubbing it in!? That's just evil, man. Alms! Alms! For the miserable Democrats On a miserable fascist morning Your donation of $20 could make the difference! Is it easier to make changes living in a potential fascist/autocratic system or with at best a negligent party in power? If you were a brown immigrant right now in the US i think its pretty clear which party youd rather live under. You dont have to worry about getting dissappeared to el salvador with the adults in charge. I want Democrats to be successful electorally, I also want them to take some responsibility for their electoral failures so they can do better in the future, which they seem really, really, really intent on not doing.
What do you want them to do? Get in front of a mic and say "We're really sorry for the fuck-up?"
Considering half the country just voted for a strongman that is never repentant about literally anything ever, do you think that's a good idea on an electoral level?
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On October 01 2025 04:43 Sadist wrote:
Theres not even agreement on why they did poorly electorally. I dont think you guys understand how difficult it is to breakthrough to some voters. Depending on where you live your demands might be diamtrecially opposed. A unifying message about economics and healthcare is pretty universal and would work, but the purity tests on other issues can be a non starter for some people.
Im not going to repeat what I've said like four times now, but I have several long posts about what I believe Democrats could do to be more successful electorally.
What I think they will instead do is pivot to the right, pick a disingenuous corporate stooge candidate, and lose.
There are some things that the Democrats should just learn from, like stop pivoting to the fucking right for fucks sake, because theres no reason to believe it works out for them. They won't though, because politics is really hard and we cant expect them to learn because its impossible to learn from mistakes, its best to instead fall back on the same playbook and pray it works differently this time.
There are plenty of things to read into the current political climate and Democrats don't even bother trying, why would they read that book when they have one from thirty years ago to fixate on instead?
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I dont think you guys understand how difficult it is to breakthrough to some voters.
Donald Trump managed it, they have less going on than Donald Trump? They're being bested at anything by Donald Trump should be the gravest mark of incompetence possible.
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On October 01 2025 04:43 Sadist wrote:
Theres not even agreement on why they did poorly electorally. I dont think you guys understand how difficult it is to breakthrough to some voters. Depending on where you live your demands might be diamtrecially opposed. A unifying message about economics and healthcare is pretty universal and would work, but the purity tests on other issues can be a non starter for some people.
I feel like the biggest issue with Democrats is that they come up with solutions to economics and healthcare that could practically work in real life.
And then Republicans promise everyone a unicorn.
And somehow voters don't see that the unicorn doesn't exist.
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They pivot in the direction their primary voters tell them to.
Donald Trump managed it, they have less going on than Donald Trump? They're being bested at anything by Donald Trump should be the gravest mark of incompetence possible.
That they couldn't win against a guy with a personality cult when the right-wing owns all the social media, most of the cable news, many of the newspapers and radio stations isn't a mark of incompetence, it's a mark of inevitability. Why are women voting for an adjudicated rapist and veterans for a draft dodger? Because the right-wing media sphere normalized it for them. You're the one living in the past if you think beating Trump should've been an easy win, not the DNC.
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Zambrah
What do they need to do? You realize that for some voters "not supporting israel" is a non starter right? And that for other voters "not eliminating support for israel" is a non starter aswell (see GH). Theres a shit ton of examples on this.
Trump captured voters by lying. I agree Democrats should just promise everything then govern responsibly. Theres no benefit to the average american to discuss nuance. Infact the more you lie and confuse makes them attach whatever they want to believe onto you. See Trump. Hes never specific about a thing and contradicts himself one day to the next. It lets him get out of jail free since theres a quote from him about whatever the person wants to believe in.
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On October 01 2025 04:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
That Kwark didn't come up with something doesn't bode well either.
Only if you presume that I’m invested in arguing with you. “You stopped first making me the victor” is the logic of a sealion.
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Quantico Cringe fest is a Loyalist recruiting event
Cosplaycolonel Kegstand and President Thindon Vein Trumpson asked the military to stop figthing in Kenia and stop "the Invasion from within"
And also who doesn't liked Trump should resign NOW.
So.. like you are going to A-Bomb New York when Mamdani wins?
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On October 01 2025 04:58 Sadist wrote:
Zambrah
What do they need to do? You realize that for some voters "not supporting israel" is a non starter right? And that for other voters "not eliminating support for israel" is a non starter aswell (see GH). Theres a shit ton of examples on this.
Trump captured voters by lying. I agree Democrats should just promise everything then govern responsibly. Theres no benefit to the average american to discuss nuance. Infact the more you lie and confuse makes them attach whatever they want to believe onto you. See Trump. Hes never specific about a thing and contradicts himself one day to the next. It lets him get out of jail free since theres a quote from him about whatever the person wants to believe in.
Go through my post history and find one of my half dozen long posts where I list out the things I would have them do, none of them include Israel btw, so if you could stop projecting GH onto others that would be nice.
Im not really interested in changing anyones minds here, noone is interested in having their mind changed, noone here reads posts, they project and ascribe beliefs to people based on whatever poster is the most prominent of their perceived belief system.
If you actually want my thoughts theyre in my post history.
I come here to make stupid posts and release my general anger at the incompetence and stupidity of American government and to make sure that if I ever feel like theres hope for the future that its extinguished on contact with what I percieve to be the above average liberals in society.
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How am I supposed to go through your post history? You have 7000 posts.
You know where it is just post it here.
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On October 01 2025 05:10 Zambrah wrote:
Im not really interested in changing anyones minds here, noone is interested in having their mind changed, noone here reads posts, they project and ascribe beliefs to people based on whatever poster is the most prominent of their perceived belief system.
meh,
over the last 5 years i've changed my position on Israel AND BN quite a bit. Netanyahu might've even been pragmatic 30 years ago perhaps. Now, the guy is evil. Trying to pretend he was best buds with Charlie Kirk... is hilarious.
I changed my stance on Justin Trudeau... I viewed him as below average 15 years ago; now i think he is the "idiot king".
However, two big factors in changing my position are new developments arising over several years and also talking to people i know quite well in person.
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On October 01 2025 04:14 Jankisa wrote:
Just watched a few excerpts from Hegeseth's speech to the generals.
What the fuck even was that, jesus christ, the incredibly cringe *looks at the camera and says "to our enemies, FAFO"* moment, I mean how fucking stupid Americans are that they think this is cool or that this is someone who should be in charge of the most powerful army the world has ever seen?
Someone pointed out that Hegseth looks at the world like a lieutenant, and if you keep that in mind, everything he does and says suddenly makes a lot more sense.
Focusing on grooming standards, doing Powerpoints instead of hanging out with your buddies at the motor pool, having to occasionally stay sober, a very tenuous grasp of OPSEC.
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Sweet Caroline.... ooohhh... oohhhh ...ohhh.
Man, they are really leaning hard into patriotic traditions with this Yankees//Red Sox baseball series. It'll be interesting to see if the Canadian national anthem gets boo-ed out of the building when the winner of this series takes on the Blue Jays.
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