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On August 12 2025 09:15 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 09:11 BlackJack wrote:
I think you need a break from the internet He's not wrong. On the one hand we have people saying that they feel comfortable if people call them by a name other than the one on their birth certificate. On the other we have people demanding to know what the first group's genitals look like. It's really not that surprising that Alex Jones, to give one example, accidentally streamed himself watching trans porn. These people are obsessed.
How long were you waiting to play that ace up your sleeve that is Alex Jones' masturbatory habits? I'll admit defeat here because we all know what Alex Jones wanks to outweighs basically everyone that works in gender health and gender studies
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On August 12 2025 09:36 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 09:15 KwarK wrote:On August 12 2025 09:11 BlackJack wrote:
I think you need a break from the internet He's not wrong. On the one hand we have people saying that they feel comfortable if people call them by a name other than the one on their birth certificate. On the other we have people demanding to know what the first group's genitals look like. It's really not that surprising that Alex Jones, to give one example, accidentally streamed himself watching trans porn. These people are obsessed. How long were you waiting to play that ace up your sleeve that is Alex Jones' masturbatory habits? I'll admit defeat here because we all know what Alex Jones wanks to outweighs basically everyone that works in gender health and gender studies
I don‘t know what Alex Jones wanks to but I‘m not the police so it‘s none of my business.
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On August 12 2025 09:36 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 09:15 KwarK wrote:On August 12 2025 09:11 BlackJack wrote:
I think you need a break from the internet He's not wrong. On the one hand we have people saying that they feel comfortable if people call them by a name other than the one on their birth certificate. On the other we have people demanding to know what the first group's genitals look like. It's really not that surprising that Alex Jones, to give one example, accidentally streamed himself watching trans porn. These people are obsessed. How long were you waiting to play that ace up your sleeve that is Alex Jones' masturbatory habits? I'll admit defeat here because we all know what Alex Jones wanks to outweighs basically everyone that works in gender health and gender studies
Alex Jones is a well known and influential conservative ideologue who has made fearmongering about trans people a core part of his message for years. He also wanks to trans porn. He is emblematic of the whole issue. But in any case you’re just wrong, conservatives care far more about this issue. I didn’t hear of any socialists declaring that they were going to switch to bud light because a trans woman drank some but there was an awful lot of conservative outrage and boycotting and insisting that bud light had gone woke and must now therefore go broke.
Socialists, as a rule, really don’t care what trans people do. If they want to be called him, that’s fine. Her, also fine. It’s mundane, it’s boring, it’s just paperwork. That’s their business.
Conservatives, on the other hand, lose their custard over it every day. If a cis Richard goes by Rick then they’re good with that but if a trans Richard goes asks a conservative to call her Rachel and they lose their fucking minds and start demanding to see birth certificates. If left wing parents have a child come out as transgender then it’s not a big deal, they love them no matter what. Whereas for conservative parents it’s the end of the world, they kick them out and tell everyone that the kid is dead.
Conservatives just care way way more about trans issues. That’s why Trump was able to rally his base by promising to oppress the trans people while Kamala wasn’t able to rally hers by promising not to.
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Maybe Alex Jones is genderfluid under very specific circumstances, there‘s no need for Kwark to shame hin like that.
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I didn’t shame him nor use any loaded language to describe the situation. I didn’t call him a pervert or a degenerate the way he would had a prominent left wing figure been caught doing the same. I relayed the facts, Alex Jones is a conservative ideologue who has made transgender conspiracies a large part of his platform and has also streamed himself looking at trans porn. His gender identity is completely irrelevant to that fact pattern.
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On August 12 2025 10:05 KwarK wrote:
I didn’t shame him nor use any loaded language to describe the situation. I didn’t call him a pervert or a degenerate the way he would had a prominent left wing figure been caught doing the same. I relayed the facts, Alex Jones is a conservative ideologue who has made transgender conspiracies a large part of his platform and has also streamed himself looking at trans porn. His gender identity is completely irrelevant to that fact pattern.
Maybe he needed therapy so he began projecting his suppressed sexuality to his audience.
And because therapy in the USA is unaffordable, he gathered all those who needed his own under him to afford his own.
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Jones was the bottom-of-the-barrel dipshit that got caught doing it, but data shows there's probably more Republicans that secretly fetishize trans people than there are actual trans people in the USA.
Why does it matter? So what if they're hypocritical dumbfucks, right? Well it does matter when they've become Claude Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame that go around instilling hatred and violence because they can't figure out a better way to sublimate their sexual shame and frustration.
Edit: Vivax beat me to it.
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On August 12 2025 09:59 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 09:36 BlackJack wrote:On August 12 2025 09:15 KwarK wrote:On August 12 2025 09:11 BlackJack wrote:
I think you need a break from the internet He's not wrong. On the one hand we have people saying that they feel comfortable if people call them by a name other than the one on their birth certificate. On the other we have people demanding to know what the first group's genitals look like. It's really not that surprising that Alex Jones, to give one example, accidentally streamed himself watching trans porn. These people are obsessed. How long were you waiting to play that ace up your sleeve that is Alex Jones' masturbatory habits? I'll admit defeat here because we all know what Alex Jones wanks to outweighs basically everyone that works in gender health and gender studies Alex Jones is a well known and influential conservative ideologue who has made fearmongering about trans people a core part of his message for years. He also wanks to trans porn. He is emblematic of the whole issue. But in any case you’re just wrong, conservatives care far more about this issue. I didn’t hear of any socialists declaring that they were going to switch to bud light because a trans woman drank some but there was an awful lot of conservative outrage and boycotting and insisting that bud light had gone woke and must now therefore go broke. Socialists, as a rule, really don’t care what trans people do. If they want to be called him, that’s fine. Her, also fine. It’s mundane, it’s boring, it’s just paperwork. That’s their business. Conservatives, on the other hand, lose their custard over it every day. If a cis Richard goes by Rick then they’re good with that but if a trans Richard goes asks a conservative to call her Rachel and they lose their fucking minds and start demanding to see birth certificates. If left wing parents have a child come out as transgender then it’s not a big deal, they love them no matter what. Whereas for conservative parents it’s the end of the world, they kick them out and tell everyone that the kid is dead. Conservatives just care way way more about trans issues. That’s why Trump was able to rally his base by promising to oppress the trans people while Kamala wasn’t able to rally hers by promising not to.
And the left held protests to cancel Dave Chapelle because he told some jokes about trans people. JK Rowling lives rent free in their head. You insist they are so laissez-faire about the gender but they would happily banish or jail anyone that misgenders someone and indeed have tried to pass laws compelling people which pronouns to use.
Gavin Newsom says he had life-long friends that won't speak to him because he said biological males in women's sports is an issue of fairness. He's a lifelong ally of LGBT who made the mildest of transgressions (common sense for the rest of us), and it's enough to do him in. Rahm Emanuel joked about having to join the witness protection program for saying a man can't become a woman. Even people on the left are scared shitless looking over their shoulder for the mob to come after them on gender and it's not conservatives they are looking for.
To recap, that's Left-wing politicians, questioning left-wing gender ideology, and worried that the left-wing mob is going to come after them for not being left-wing enough. Something something Alex Jones trans porn.
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Wow yeah, good thing conservatives never try to cancel anyone. I mean, if you forget entirely about the Dixie Chicks, Bud Lite, Colin Kaepernick, Ben & Jerry's, Cisco, French fries, Goodyear, HBO, Charles Krauthammer, Citigroup, Delta Airlines, Starbucks, Ludacris, and Sesame Street.
JK Rowling literally retweets Neo-Nazis, but sure, she's just an innocent victim of the trans Mafia 🥺
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On August 12 2025 10:26 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 09:59 KwarK wrote:On August 12 2025 09:36 BlackJack wrote:On August 12 2025 09:15 KwarK wrote:On August 12 2025 09:11 BlackJack wrote:
I think you need a break from the internet He's not wrong. On the one hand we have people saying that they feel comfortable if people call them by a name other than the one on their birth certificate. On the other we have people demanding to know what the first group's genitals look like. It's really not that surprising that Alex Jones, to give one example, accidentally streamed himself watching trans porn. These people are obsessed. How long were you waiting to play that ace up your sleeve that is Alex Jones' masturbatory habits? I'll admit defeat here because we all know what Alex Jones wanks to outweighs basically everyone that works in gender health and gender studies Alex Jones is a well known and influential conservative ideologue who has made fearmongering about trans people a core part of his message for years. He also wanks to trans porn. He is emblematic of the whole issue. But in any case you’re just wrong, conservatives care far more about this issue. I didn’t hear of any socialists declaring that they were going to switch to bud light because a trans woman drank some but there was an awful lot of conservative outrage and boycotting and insisting that bud light had gone woke and must now therefore go broke. Socialists, as a rule, really don’t care what trans people do. If they want to be called him, that’s fine. Her, also fine. It’s mundane, it’s boring, it’s just paperwork. That’s their business. Conservatives, on the other hand, lose their custard over it every day. If a cis Richard goes by Rick then they’re good with that but if a trans Richard goes asks a conservative to call her Rachel and they lose their fucking minds and start demanding to see birth certificates. If left wing parents have a child come out as transgender then it’s not a big deal, they love them no matter what. Whereas for conservative parents it’s the end of the world, they kick them out and tell everyone that the kid is dead. Conservatives just care way way more about trans issues. That’s why Trump was able to rally his base by promising to oppress the trans people while Kamala wasn’t able to rally hers by promising not to. And the left held protests to cancel Dave Chapelle because he told some jokes about trans people. JK Rowling lives rent free in their head. You insist they are so laissez-faire about the gender but they would happily banish or jail anyone that misgenders someone and indeed have tried to pass laws compelling people which pronouns to use. Gavin Newsom says he had life-long friends that won't speak to him because he said biological males in women's sports is an issue of fairness. He's a lifelong ally of LGBT who made the mildest of transgressions (common sense for the rest of us), and it's enough to do him in. Rahm Emanuel joked about having to join the witness protection program for saying a man can't become a woman. Even people on the left are scared shitless looking over their shoulder for the mob to come after them on gender and it's not conservatives they are looking for.
JK Rowling isn’t a case of a few statements, she’s actively anti-trans, and puts her money where her mouth is.
It’s not even possible to dispute that she’s anti-trans, dually to her credit and against that she’s put her money where her mouth is for years on the topic.
It’s Gavin Newsom. Credit for his prior stances but let’s be real. If the general direction of travel wasn’t for gay rights, is he doing that?
He’s throwing trans people under the bus to be more electable, let’s be real. They’re a frontier that’s too far for many.
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On August 12 2025 10:37 LightSpectra wrote:
Wow yeah, good thing conservatives never try to cancel anyone. I mean, if you forget entirely about the Dixie Chicks, Bud Lite, Colin Kaepernick, Ben & Jerry's, Cisco, French fries, Goodyear, HBO, Charles Krauthammer, Citigroup, Delta Airlines, Starbucks, Ludacris, and Sesame Street.
JK Rowling literally retweets Neo-Nazis, but sure, she's just an innocent victim of the trans Mafia 🥺
You could also name any openly trans person and the death threats they get from MAGA types. The one that was in this thread a couple years back felt so in danger that they had to leave the US.
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When I last checked, Dave Chapelle is still selling out stadiums whenever he does any sort of show. To paraphrase Bill Burr, shut the fuck up about cancel culture just because some people find your jokes to be hacky. People moan on social media and then the outrage passes.
Getting cancelled is like Diddy where he is actually persona non grata amongst his colleagues because he’s a piece of shit no one wants to work with anymore.
As for JK Rowling, no shit trans advocates keep talking about her when she uses her considerable wealth and influence to fund anti-trans advocacy groups and politicians. This is a woman so obsessed with eliminating trans people that even goddamn Elon Musk told her to chill out.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On August 12 2025 10:37 LightSpectra wrote:
Wow yeah, good thing conservatives never try to cancel anyone. I mean, if you forget entirely about the Dixie Chicks, Bud Lite, Colin Kaepernick, Ben & Jerry's, Cisco, French fries, Goodyear, HBO, Charles Krauthammer, Citigroup, Delta Airlines, Starbucks, Ludacris, and Sesame Street.
JK Rowling literally retweets Neo-Nazis, but sure, she's just an innocent victim of the trans Mafia 🥺
No, this is bullshit. What you don’t understand is like some 16 year old Tumblr user is equivalent to a senior member of the executive branch.
Blackjack will just pretend all those other things don’t exist, and that Daisy posting on Tumblr is representative of the left.
And have endless excuses why he spends all his time moaning about trans people in sport, but not Trump doing well, what he’s doing.
Because obviously Blackjack is just a devil’s advocate for truth, of course! So here, where we are mostly left-leaning, he’s just playing devil’s advocate and pushing against internal orthodoxy. That’s all! And elsewhere in spaces none of us inhabit that are conservative dominated, he’s doing the same thing, apparently.
We all know it’s bullshit, I suspect Blackjack himself knows it’s complete bullshit
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As far as I could see there‘s been period of trans advocacy of sorts that might have caused a bunch of adolescents to hop on the bandwagon for popularity reasons.
Whether it‘s been a good decision for them to decide on it (what they believe is an identity) so early in their life remains to be seen, but if exposure is a factor, then it‘s not going to be an optimal result with so much external peer pressure.
If a result is ever possible when identity is really just a matter of belief.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On August 12 2025 10:57 Vivax wrote:
As far as I could see there‘s been period of trans advocacy of sorts that might have caused a bunch of adolescents to hop on the bandwagon for popularity reasons.
Whether it‘s been a good decision for them to decide on it (what they believe is an identity) so early in their life remains to be seen, but if exposure is a factor, then it‘s not going to be an optimal result with so much external peer pressure.
If a result is ever possible when identity is really just a matter of belief.
The optimal result is just to let trans folks live their lives, that’s it.
Literally the only area of some legitimate contention is women’s sport, that’s it. Or misdiagnosis.
Bathrooms? Fuck off just let people get on with it. Restrictive policies just end up with weirder interactions, like absolutely buffed up transmen having to use the female bathrooms.
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Reminder that JK Rowling currently is leading the charge to get a trans retail worker fired for the crime of existing. And conservatives wonder why trans advocates don’t like the woman.
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On August 12 2025 11:03 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 10:57 Vivax wrote:
As far as I could see there‘s been period of trans advocacy of sorts that might have caused a bunch of adolescents to hop on the bandwagon for popularity reasons.
Whether it‘s been a good decision for them to decide on it (what they believe is an identity) so early in their life remains to be seen, but if exposure is a factor, then it‘s not going to be an optimal result with so much external peer pressure.
If a result is ever possible when identity is really just a matter of belief. The optimal result is just to let trans folks live their lives, that’s it. Literally the only area of some legitimate contention is women’s sport, that’s it. Or misdiagnosis. Bathrooms? Fuck off just let people get on with it. Restrictive policies just end up with weirder interactions, like absolutely buffed up transmen having to use the female bathrooms.
If I‘m at the female toilets for some reason and I see someone with boobs whip out a wiener at the pissoir, I‘m not going to be the one to judge mate.
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On August 12 2025 11:10 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 11:03 WombaT wrote:On August 12 2025 10:57 Vivax wrote:
As far as I could see there‘s been period of trans advocacy of sorts that might have caused a bunch of adolescents to hop on the bandwagon for popularity reasons.
Whether it‘s been a good decision for them to decide on it (what they believe is an identity) so early in their life remains to be seen, but if exposure is a factor, then it‘s not going to be an optimal result with so much external peer pressure.
If a result is ever possible when identity is really just a matter of belief. The optimal result is just to let trans folks live their lives, that’s it. Literally the only area of some legitimate contention is women’s sport, that’s it. Or misdiagnosis. Bathrooms? Fuck off just let people get on with it. Restrictive policies just end up with weirder interactions, like absolutely buffed up transmen having to use the female bathrooms. If I‘m at the female toilets for some reason and I see someone with boobs whip out a wiener at the pissoir, I‘m not going to be the one to judge mate.
What are we even trying to say here?
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The more common occurrence are masc women getting pulled up and transinvestigated because people are being whipped up in such a frenzy.
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On August 12 2025 11:16 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2025 11:10 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2025 11:03 WombaT wrote:On August 12 2025 10:57 Vivax wrote:
As far as I could see there‘s been period of trans advocacy of sorts that might have caused a bunch of adolescents to hop on the bandwagon for popularity reasons.
Whether it‘s been a good decision for them to decide on it (what they believe is an identity) so early in their life remains to be seen, but if exposure is a factor, then it‘s not going to be an optimal result with so much external peer pressure.
If a result is ever possible when identity is really just a matter of belief. The optimal result is just to let trans folks live their lives, that’s it. Literally the only area of some legitimate contention is women’s sport, that’s it. Or misdiagnosis. Bathrooms? Fuck off just let people get on with it. Restrictive policies just end up with weirder interactions, like absolutely buffed up transmen having to use the female bathrooms. If I‘m at the female toilets for some reason and I see someone with boobs whip out a wiener at the pissoir, I‘m not going to be the one to judge mate. What are we even trying to say here?
That it‘s a non-issue unless you go look for it.
Whether your nation ran a human trafficking ring might be a problem, whether someone wants a different set of genitals for themselves isn‘t.
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