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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3310 Posts
August 12 2025 02:25 GMT
#103201
Is "pissoir" a typo or is that some kind of fancy French toilet?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22417 Posts
August 12 2025 02:28 GMT
#103202
On August 12 2025 11:25 LightSpectra wrote:
Is "pissoir" a typo or is that some kind of fancy French toilet?


That‘s urinal for you probably.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44373 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 02:29:15
August 12 2025 02:29 GMT
#103203
On August 12 2025 11:10 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
Reminder that JK Rowling currently is leading the charge to get a trans retail worker fired for the crime of existing. And conservatives wonder why trans advocates don’t like the woman.

Yeah but she’s also trying to force an assigned female at birth female athlete with a vagina to transition to male so six of one, half a dozen of another. JK Rowling hates cis women too.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
August 12 2025 02:31 GMT
#103204
peeking at other wieners when there are boobies as an alternative to look at. while answering nature's call.

the Wurst.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22417 Posts
August 12 2025 02:36 GMT
#103205
On August 12 2025 11:31 Doublemint wrote:
peeking at other wieners when there are boobies as an alternative to look at. while answering nature's call.

the Wurst.


It‘s my fault for always picking the women‘s restrooms tbh.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
August 12 2025 02:38 GMT
#103206
On August 12 2025 06:11 LightSpectra wrote:
You [BlackJack] work in pediatric mental health [in California] and you spend your free time on Internet message boards shitting on trans people for being "gender obsessed" and cheering on politicians opposing trans rights?

Did this ever get answered, or...? Is BJ some kind of master troll?
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 02:40:57
August 12 2025 02:40 GMT
#103207
On August 12 2025 11:10 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2025 11:03 WombaT wrote:
On August 12 2025 10:57 Vivax wrote:
As far as I could see there‘s been period of trans advocacy of sorts that might have caused a bunch of adolescents to hop on the bandwagon for popularity reasons.

Whether it‘s been a good decision for them to decide on it (what they believe is an identity) so early in their life remains to be seen, but if exposure is a factor, then it‘s not going to be an optimal result with so much external peer pressure.

If a result is ever possible when identity is really just a matter of belief.

The optimal result is just to let trans folks live their lives, that’s it.

Literally the only area of some legitimate contention is women’s sport, that’s it. Or misdiagnosis.

Bathrooms? Fuck off just let people get on with it. Restrictive policies just end up with weirder interactions, like absolutely buffed up transmen having to use the female bathrooms.


If I‘m at the female toilets for some reason and I see someone with boobs whip out a wiener at the pissoir, I‘m not going to be the one to judge mate.

Why does that matter? It’s fucking bathroom.

Indeed as a crude anecdotal observation, most chicks I know don’t care at all, and tend to be more sympathetic on trans issues. They don’t feel threatened one iota by trans people using their space.

Know what they frequently do feel threatened by?

Dudes, in general.

Now, we could just ignore that entirely and assume that half of the human populace are full of shit, or we could maybe listen.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 02:43:34
August 12 2025 02:42 GMT
#103208
another case for having gender neutral bathrooms where it would solve a problem no one - seriously - asked for.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 12 2025 02:43 GMT
#103209
On August 12 2025 10:54 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2025 10:37 LightSpectra wrote:
Wow yeah, good thing conservatives never try to cancel anyone. I mean, if you forget entirely about the Dixie Chicks, Bud Lite, Colin Kaepernick, Ben & Jerry's, Cisco, French fries, Goodyear, HBO, Charles Krauthammer, Citigroup, Delta Airlines, Starbucks, Ludacris, and Sesame Street.

JK Rowling literally retweets Neo-Nazis, but sure, she's just an innocent victim of the trans Mafia 🥺

No, this is bullshit. What you don’t understand is like some 16 year old Tumblr user is equivalent to a senior member of the executive branch.

Blackjack will just pretend all those other things don’t exist, and that Daisy posting on Tumblr is representative of the left.

And have endless excuses why he spends all his time moaning about trans people in sport, but not Trump doing well, what he’s doing.

Because obviously Blackjack is just a devil’s advocate for truth, of course! So here, where we are mostly left-leaning, he’s just playing devil’s advocate and pushing against internal orthodoxy. That’s all! And elsewhere in spaces none of us inhabit that are conservative dominated, he’s doing the same thing, apparently.

We all know it’s bullshit, I suspect Blackjack himself knows it’s complete bullshit


How did we jump to "BJ will ignore that cancel culture on the right exists"? Anyway, here's the search function again doing overtime today

On February 03 2022 07:14 BlackJack wrote:
I don't think "the right" is as opposed to cancel culture as they pretend to be - the most obvious example being Colin Kaepernick.


On July 22 2023 07:10 BlackJack wrote:
It's really not the end of the world if one bank drops Farage as a client. It becomes a problem if all the banks refuse to work with someone because of their opinions or if all 32 NFL teams refuse to hire Colin Kaepernick because of their opinions. Everyone should be sensible enough to say that blacklisting people to freeze them out of a portion of society because of their opinions is unfair.


On February 07 2022 07:12 BlackJack wrote:
You've already provided a good example if you want to demonstrate right-wing hypocrisy on cancel culture: The Dixie Chicks.


On July 22 2023 13:17 BlackJack wrote:
The NFL employs wife beaters, rapists, animal abusers, probably even a murderer or two that hadn’t been caught. If the audience can stomach those people but they can’t stomach Colin Kaepernick then it really says a lot about our society and where it’s heading.


Does nobody read my posts on this site? You just haphazardly assign any grievance you have about the right onto me?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 12 2025 03:08 GMT
#103210
On August 12 2025 11:43 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2025 10:54 WombaT wrote:
On August 12 2025 10:37 LightSpectra wrote:
Wow yeah, good thing conservatives never try to cancel anyone. I mean, if you forget entirely about the Dixie Chicks, Bud Lite, Colin Kaepernick, Ben & Jerry's, Cisco, French fries, Goodyear, HBO, Charles Krauthammer, Citigroup, Delta Airlines, Starbucks, Ludacris, and Sesame Street.

JK Rowling literally retweets Neo-Nazis, but sure, she's just an innocent victim of the trans Mafia 🥺

No, this is bullshit. What you don’t understand is like some 16 year old Tumblr user is equivalent to a senior member of the executive branch.

Blackjack will just pretend all those other things don’t exist, and that Daisy posting on Tumblr is representative of the left.

And have endless excuses why he spends all his time moaning about trans people in sport, but not Trump doing well, what he’s doing.

Because obviously Blackjack is just a devil’s advocate for truth, of course! So here, where we are mostly left-leaning, he’s just playing devil’s advocate and pushing against internal orthodoxy. That’s all! And elsewhere in spaces none of us inhabit that are conservative dominated, he’s doing the same thing, apparently.

We all know it’s bullshit, I suspect Blackjack himself knows it’s complete bullshit


How did we jump to "BJ will ignore that cancel culture on the right exists"? Anyway, here's the search function again doing overtime today

Show nested quote +
On February 03 2022 07:14 BlackJack wrote:
I don't think "the right" is as opposed to cancel culture as they pretend to be - the most obvious example being Colin Kaepernick.


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2023 07:10 BlackJack wrote:
It's really not the end of the world if one bank drops Farage as a client. It becomes a problem if all the banks refuse to work with someone because of their opinions or if all 32 NFL teams refuse to hire Colin Kaepernick because of their opinions. Everyone should be sensible enough to say that blacklisting people to freeze them out of a portion of society because of their opinions is unfair.


Show nested quote +
On February 07 2022 07:12 BlackJack wrote:
You've already provided a good example if you want to demonstrate right-wing hypocrisy on cancel culture: The Dixie Chicks.


Show nested quote +
On July 22 2023 13:17 BlackJack wrote:
The NFL employs wife beaters, rapists, animal abusers, probably even a murderer or two that hadn’t been caught. If the audience can stomach those people but they can’t stomach Colin Kaepernick then it really says a lot about our society and where it’s heading.


Does nobody read my posts on this site? You just haphazardly assign any grievance you have about the right onto me?

Nope, not at all.

You seem to just want to argue with people. And in a space that’s generally left dominated you’ll just consistently do that.

But you simultaneously seem to want to be able to play the perpetual devil’s advocate, but not get criticised for it, or have other people assume your political positions based on your output.

‘Oh no I just slam the left all the time on TL because it’s left-dominated, but trust me I slam conservatives just as hard elsewhere’

Maybe that’s true, I don’t really care I’m not in those other spaces that you apparently hold conservatives to account in.

I think it’s bullshit, I think you consider the oversteps of wokeness as worse than actual governmental overreach, and the increasing success of the far right because you always focus on the former.

And if you don’t, it’s not my bad, it’s yours, it’s the entirety of your posting lmao.

People may bitch about GH’s approach or whatever, and I will sometimes. I’ve also 0% doubt that GH’s positions are their actual positions.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 12 2025 03:11 GMT
#103211
You’re a useful idiot for the right, and the worst part is you’re clearly not an idiot.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 12 2025 03:17 GMT
#103212
Okay, evidently 3 posts criticizing the cancellation of Colin Kaepernick is not enough to dissuade you from the idea that I'm happy to ignore the cancellation of Colin Kaepernick. Definitely my fault. I'll try to get those numbers up for you.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 03:27:20
August 12 2025 03:23 GMT
#103213
On August 12 2025 12:17 BlackJack wrote:
Okay, evidently 3 posts criticizing the cancellation of Colin Kaepernick is not enough to dissuade you from the idea that I'm happy to ignore the cancellation of Colin Kaepernick. Definitely my fault. I'll try to get those numbers up for you.

As per usual I’ll not talk for the forum as I don’t think I do, and whack it to a poll. Also bear in mind last time ‘had you even heard about the Sydney Sweeney controversy?’ lost, which you never addressed

Poll: Is my characterisation of BlackJack accurate?

Yes (15)
 
65%

No (8)
 
35%

23 total votes

Your vote: Is my characterisation of BlackJack accurate?

(Vote): Yes
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'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 03:34:18
August 12 2025 03:33 GMT
#103214
On August 12 2025 12:17 BlackJack wrote:
Okay, evidently 3 posts criticizing the cancellation of Colin Kaepernick is not enough to dissuade you from the idea that I'm happy to ignore the cancellation of Colin Kaepernick. Definitely my fault. I'll try to get those numbers up for you.

Oh cool you made 3 posts criticising that, which outweighs your 875 posts moaning about wokeness. Cool. Good to know that’s how it works

Apologies, I will remove my poll.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 12 2025 03:38 GMT
#103215
Your poll is unnecessary because even I will agree with your characterization that I spend more time criticizing wokeism than I do conservatives/Trump. I just don't understand the need to have a tantrum about it. It's like complaining "Only 95% of the posts here are criticizing Trump and if you would stop being such a jerk and do your part we could get to 97-98% so wtf is your problem!" I've never seen anyone so triggered that their echo chamber doesn't echo back perfectly. If you want to criticize my dissenting opinions then go ahead, but you shouldn't a) criticize me simply for having dissenting opinions and b) foist any position of the conservative right onto me as if I'm on board with it just because I don't spend all day bemoaning it.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 12 2025 03:42 GMT
#103216
Colin Kaepernick not being able to get work in the NFL is kind of a niche issue. I think 3 posts criticizing it is sufficient.
Calanthe
Profile Joined October 2012
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-12 03:46:33
August 12 2025 03:46 GMT
#103217
On August 12 2025 11:42 Doublemint wrote:
another case for having gender neutral bathrooms where it would solve a problem no one - seriously - asked for.


conservatives would be shocked to learn that there are gender neutral bathrooms in the last place they'd expect it - in their own homes. the horror!
my heart's the bitter buffalo
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 12 2025 03:47 GMT
#103218
On August 12 2025 12:38 BlackJack wrote:
Your poll is unnecessary because even I will agree with your characterization that I spend more time criticizing wokeism than I do conservatives/Trump. I just don't understand the need to have a tantrum about it. It's like complaining "Only 95% of the posts here are criticizing Trump and if you would stop being such a jerk and do your part we could get to 97-98% so wtf is your problem!" I've never seen anyone so triggered that their echo chamber doesn't echo back perfectly. If you want to criticize my dissenting opinions then go ahead, but you shouldn't a) criticize me simply for having dissenting opinions and b) foist any position of the conservative right onto me as if I'm on board with it just because I don't spend all day bemoaning it.

‘Triggered’ lmao. Fucking hell.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27463 Posts
August 12 2025 03:49 GMT
#103219
Call me crazy but I would generally be more concerned about how you know, an actual government operates, that runs than the executive than 15 year olds on Tumblr and what they’re up to.

That may just be me though
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6568 Posts
August 12 2025 03:57 GMT
#103220
You have a naive block with the idea people are supposed to objectively calculate the importance of everything in the world and correctly apportion the speech of their measly 42 million minutes appropriately, and that you have superuser access to know they're allocating said time correctly.

Like how many times have you come out against people stabbing each other in the eyeballs to death, WombaT? Not quite enough for my satisfaction. In fact I've not seen it once. Problematic.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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