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Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland577 Posts
August 11 2025 16:26 GMT
#103141
It is time to make vagrancy illegal again.
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-11 16:56:57
August 11 2025 16:56 GMT
#103142
Half of people without homes are foster children who aged out of the system and received negligible aid from the government or their foster families. There was a guy who tried to solve that problem but he sounded too old during one presidential election debate, so now we're just sending soldiers to harass homeless people instead.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3511 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-11 17:25:34
August 11 2025 17:24 GMT
#103143
On August 12 2025 01:26 Legan wrote:
It is time to make vagrancy illegal again.

Do you want to expand on this before anyone assumes you're a lunatic? (I'm doing my best not to)

Do you agree with what Trump is about to do?

**And what he's about to do is 'fortify' DC against protest and civil unrest in the guise of some other non-existent boogeyman. Sounds a bit like what Egypt is doing with their new capital. Egypt and America... neat parallel. Yikes.
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Legan
Profile Joined June 2017
Finland577 Posts
August 11 2025 18:06 GMT
#103144
On August 12 2025 02:24 Gescom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2025 01:26 Legan wrote:
It is time to make vagrancy illegal again.

Do you want to expand on this before anyone assumes you're a lunatic? (I'm doing my best not to)

Do you agree with what Trump is about to do?

**And what he's about to do is 'fortify' DC against protest and civil unrest in the guise of some other non-existent boogeyman. Sounds a bit like what Egypt is doing with their new capital. Egypt and America... neat parallel. Yikes.

I'm joking. However, I would not be surprised if Republicans pushed for that in some form or another.
Creator of Gresvan, Tropical Sacrifice, Taitalika, and Golden Forge
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
August 11 2025 18:10 GMT
#103145
On August 12 2025 01:12 Sadist wrote:
Where are the homeless people going to go when he "gets them off the street" what does that actually mean?


soylent green I hear is delicious.

also who needs human beings, what even is a human being? we need consumers god damnit. you don't consume you might as well get off the damn street. preferably into your home you don't have so you don't fuck up the bag and vibes for everybody else having fun spending. be poor and a failure somewhere else.

next we remove all the criminal aliens, then the sick - major bummer those! then the politically sick like the left wing lunatics.

case closed, check's in the mail. 37 trillion and counting.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43987 Posts
August 11 2025 18:19 GMT
#103146
On August 12 2025 03:10 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2025 01:12 Sadist wrote:
Where are the homeless people going to go when he "gets them off the street" what does that actually mean?

case closed, check's in the mail. 37 trillion and counting.

You joke but there are plenty of redhats who are genuinely waiting for the check that Trump/Musk promised them would be sent after they cleaned up all the Biden corruption in USAID.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2576 Posts
August 11 2025 18:45 GMT
#103147
There are people who still think the COVID stimulus checks came straight from Trump's bank account.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
August 11 2025 18:51 GMT
#103148
well, patience is a virtue I hear.

and while we joke moves are being made.

Trump says he’s placing Washington police under federal control and activating the National Guard

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Monday he’s taking over Washington’s police department and activating 800 members of the National Guard in the hopes of reducing crime, even as city officials stressed crime is already falling in the nation’s capital.

The president, flanked by his attorney general, his defense secretary and the FBI director, said he was declaring a public safety emergency and his administration would be removing homeless encampments.

“We’re going to take our capital back,” Trump declared, adding he’d also be “getting rid of the slums.”

For Trump, the effort to take over public safety in Washington reflects an escalation of his aggressive approach to law enforcement. The District of Columbia’s status as a congressionally established federal district gives him a unique opportunity to push his tough-on-crime agenda, though he has not proposed solutions to the root causes of homelessness or crime.

Attorney General Pam Bondi will assume responsibility for Washington’s metro police department, Trump said, as he also railed against potholes and graffiti in the city and called them “embarrassing.” The president did not provide a timeline for the control of the police department, but he’s limited to 30 days under statute.

...

Local officials rejected the Republican president’s depiction of the district as crime-ridden and called his actions illegal.

“The administration’s actions are unprecedented, unnecessary, and unlawful,” District of Columbia Attorney General Brian Schwalb said. “There is no crime emergency in the District of Columbia.”

Schwalb, a Democrat, said violent crime in the district reached historic 30-year lows last year and is down another 26% this year.


doing unprecedented authoritarian things because stunt - which in itself is crazy and very Trump - or actual scary move?

or plain revenge for big balls having his balls handed to him and Trump feeling protective for a kindred spirit?

imagine a Democrat having the gall to even think about what Trump is shamelessly doing. but more importantly getting away with it.

after all Fox is fair and balanced and serious outlets fake news.

Trump is nothing short of consistent really, just make the totally real "fair and balanced" Fox stories of crime ridden Democrat cities a "reality" by sending in the boys. crime stats be damned.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2576 Posts
August 11 2025 18:59 GMT
#103149
Prediction: nothing big or dramatic will happen, maybe we're going to get a bunch of viral photos of national guardsmen playing Candy Crush on their phone at subway stations. Eventually lawsuits will pile up and child rapist Donald Trump will either recall them or do the next outrageous thing to get the heat off of the Epstein files.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 11 2025 19:02 GMT
#103150
On August 12 2025 03:45 LightSpectra wrote:
There are people who still think the COVID stimulus checks came straight from Trump's bank account.


Oh really and who are these redhats that think their COVID stimulus check came from Trump's bank account? Have you met them? How many have you met? Or are these just nameless people on twitter? I doubt you've met any of them unless you're secretly stalking them because you're a chaser of MAGA girls. Or perhaps you're bitter about being turned down by a MAGA girl?

Just kidding. I don't care. I just thought I would meet you with the same argument I am met with when I make some generalization about crazies on the left.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2576 Posts
August 11 2025 19:08 GMT
#103151
You only admitted you were lying when you realized (with some assistance) that your obvious lie made you look like an incel or an extreme pervert. Now, if I were I in your circumstance, I would probably shut the fuck up for at least a week out shame, as opposed to wildly accusing everyone else of lies while explicitly drawing attention to the fact that you feel entitled to do so because you yourself were caught in a lie, but I guess that's the difference between you and I.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 11 2025 19:25 GMT
#103152
On August 12 2025 04:08 LightSpectra wrote:
You only admitted you were lying when you realized (with some assistance) that your obvious lie made you look like an incel or an extreme pervert. Now, if I were I in your circumstance, I would probably shut the fuck up for at least a week out shame, as opposed to wildly accusing everyone else of lies while explicitly drawing attention to the fact that you feel entitled to do so because you yourself were caught in a lie, but I guess that's the difference between you and I.


I think your delusions are getting the better of you because I didn't "admit I was lying." In fact I think my response was to call it ignorance to believe that non-binary people with neopronouns don't exist in the numbers that I could have met dozens of them.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-11 19:37:34
August 11 2025 19:34 GMT
#103153
Oh okay, so you're doubling down on "I actually do know dozens of non-binary gender-fluid transmasculine person with they/them pronouns that sometimes uses the neopronouns of ze/zir or fae/faer depending on when they feel more masculine vs when zir feel more femme, but it's because I live in San Francisco and not because I specifically go out seeking them, and btw I only talk shit about them on Internet messageboards and I'm actually a perfect gentleman in real life"?

And just so there's no ambiguity here, a "dozen" is 12, so "dozens" means 24 at minimum.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 11 2025 19:48 GMT
#103154
I'd estimate I've met >24 people that use neopronouns. I don't exactly keep a running tally. Again I'm left wondering why you think it's relevant to anything? Or why it's so triggering for you that you and others need to call me a liar.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5158 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-11 19:57:36
August 11 2025 19:57 GMT
#103155
I think I've met maybe 1. And I didn't ask or hear them use "neopronouns" because it wasn't relevant.
Meeting >24 is more than happenstance is what we're saying. Either you find them or they find you or you happen to be in a circumstance where you're continuously bump in to them lol. It's quite relevant; also you seem to think they're always weirdly overstepping some social boundaries so I'm so curious how you would come to that conclusion after meeting >24 of them. Were they all zealots as you perceive the trans community to be?
Taxes are for Terrans
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43987 Posts
August 11 2025 19:58 GMT
#103156
Weird choice to triple down on such an obvious lie but okay. In any case there’s a world of difference between making fun of the lunatic fringe (redhats) vs confusing the lunatic fringe with the mainstream. If you were just mocking people with neopronouns then sure, whatever. But you were asserting that they’re representative of the mainstream. I didn’t assert that all conservatives are waiting for their checks, I specified redhats. The kind of lunatics who make MAGA their whole identity. And they are.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-11 20:06:09
August 11 2025 20:01 GMT
#103157
The only realistic ways you'd know 24+ people with exotic pronouns are if you were like a trans rights activist or a doctor in the field of gender-affirming treatments, and you're very clearly neither of those things since apropos of nothing you bring up trans people to shit on them VERY frequently in this thread, and have the strange idea that independent voters would flock to Democrats if only they'd throw trans people under the bus (average people aren't thinking about trans issues so frequently that it's the deciding issue in the voting booth). So you're probably just lying, but if you're not, there's a rather blatant implication that you're projecting a fetish you're ashamed of.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1384 Posts
August 11 2025 20:17 GMT
#103158
How interesting that the guy who insists on careful wording and calling people out for using exaggerated language and phrasing, often derailing this thread for pages at the time throws out insane lies for no reason at all.

I like the fetish explanation the most, personally.

I would also love for our resident "I'm OK with things Trump does but not all of them and I won't defend most of them or him personally" crowd who spent a lot of time explaining how immigrants are threatening US sovereignty and deploying the national guard was a good move by Trump to get seditious California under control to enlighten us why Trump is turning DC into a police state?
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 11 2025 21:07 GMT
#103159
On August 12 2025 04:57 Uldridge wrote:
I think I've met maybe 1. And I didn't ask or hear them use "neopronouns" because it wasn't relevant.
Meeting >24 is more than happenstance is what we're saying. Either you find them or they find you or you happen to be in a circumstance where you're continuously bump in to them lol. It's quite relevant; also you seem to think they're always weirdly overstepping some social boundaries so I'm so curious how you would come to that conclusion after meeting >24 of them. Were they all zealots as you perceive the trans community to be?


In my line of work I've met hundreds if not thousands of people in various stages of mental health crises. If you follow the news even poorly over the last 5 years you'd be aware that there's an increasing pediatric mental health epidemic and there's simultaneously been an explosion of adolescents exploring all kinds of ideas about gender. You also may or may not be aware that there's a pretty large correlation between being transgender/non-binary and having issues with mental health, e.g. depression, hopelessness, suicidality, etc. San Francisco, having locked children out of schools the longest and having a large LGBT population is sort of the ground zero of both. Of course you may think "But BJ only a small subset of trans adolescents are non-binary and an even smaller subset use neo-pronouns." And I agree. Which must mean that people that use neopronouns must be really really overrepresented in the sample size I've met. Hell, maybe seeing many children struggling with their identity and their mental health might be why I think bombarding children with all kinds of ideas about gender may not be a beneficial thing for them.

I don't know what me believing trans people "overstep social boundaries" or believing "they are all zealots" is about. I surmise that the noise coming from the right is foisted onto me because I'm viewed as the conservative voice here, which is often the case. For example, I am frequently accused of wanting to police what bathrooms people use and LightSpectra even began the dialogue by asking me if I'm obsessed with trans people because it gives an excuse to assault them in the bathroom.

On July 03 2023 15:00 BlackJack wrote:
Bathroom bans

Just political theater in my opinion. People don’t go into the wrong bathrooms not because it’s the law but because that’s what societal norms dictate. I’m not aware of this being a problem and if it becomes a problem then you can worry about legislating it.


On July 04 2023 02:11 BlackJack wrote:
I don’t really care what bathrooms people use


On July 18 2024 09:42 BlackJack wrote:
Whether someone is “passing” is completely irrelevant to what bathroom they should use. Not every trans woman wants to wear dresses and have breasts and long hair. Clothing and hairstyles don’t have a designated gender. Men can have long hair and women can have a full beard. People shouldn’t have to fulfill certain gender stereotypes just to take a shit.


On mocking a Tennessee law requiring businesses to post a sign if they let trans people use bathrooms:

On May 19 2021 07:16 BlackJack wrote:
Nothing says "party of small government" like requiring businesses to post signs about their bathroom policies /sarcasm


On calling out another user who said MTF trans people that get into catfights at the bar will be harder to restrain

On July 12 2023 13:46 BlackJack wrote:
I thought the bathroom issue was a non-issue but the unruly drunk MTF trans women that are rampaging the cities takes the cake. I don’t disagree with a lot of your points cLutZ but you’re doing yourself a disservice here with this ridiculous take.

LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2576 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-11 21:18:13
August 11 2025 21:11 GMT
#103160
You work in pediatric mental health and you spend your free time on Internet message boards shitting on trans people for being "gender obsessed" and cheering on politicians opposing trans rights?
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