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Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
1065 Posts
2 hours ago
#120121
On October 10 2026 23:53 LightSpectra wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ..."

Your argument is that the Founding Fathers rebelled against the British in order to protect their human rights that they apparently believed are literally impossible to infringe because an omnipotent God was enforcing them like the laws of physics. I suggest going to the hospital immediately and asking them to check you for brain damage.




Oh my dude.

That is actually your argument lol. My is exact opposite. I dont know, maybe hire a tutor and reread it with said tutor.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10965 Posts
1 hour ago
#120122
On October 11 2026 01:25 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.
How on earth is it possible to miss all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests?


So he's talking big game but failing? While being unnecessarily reckless and cruel?

What a shocker.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3307 Posts
1 hour ago
#120123
On October 11 2026 01:51 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2026 23:53 LightSpectra wrote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed ..."

Your argument is that the Founding Fathers rebelled against the British in order to protect their human rights that they apparently believed are literally impossible to infringe because an omnipotent God was enforcing them like the laws of physics. I suggest going to the hospital immediately and asking them to check you for brain damage.




Oh my dude.

That is actually your argument lol. My is exact opposite. I dont know, maybe hire a tutor and reread it with said tutor.


Hey mods, is this blatant bad faith behavior an inalienable right?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10009 Posts
1 hour ago
#120124
Does anyone else find it odd that the people who came to power on not trusting governments now want the government to have the power to kill people in public every time they need a PR boost?
RIP Meatloaf <3
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States783 Posts
1 hour ago
#120125
On October 11 2026 01:28 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2026 01:25 dyhb wrote:
Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.
How on earth is it possible to miss all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests?


Because they've defied over a hundred court orders.

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/10/ice-immigration-detention-court-orders-00771727
He might've missed "all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests" because he's been reading too many articles like that one and assumed a falsehood.

You of course realize that alleging 100 violations of court orders harmoniously coexists with Trump indeed not possessing free rein? Go ahead and state that for the record, if you dare.

On October 11 2026 01:41 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2026 01:25 dyhb wrote:
Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.
How on earth is it possible to miss all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests?
Yes I know, having a constitution that gives everyone rights is so annoying.
Which is why I bristle at people implying that Trump has free rein. Even immigration courts (final order of removal etc) operate by Congressionally-passed statute.

On October 11 2026 01:54 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2026 01:25 dyhb wrote:
Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.
How on earth is it possible to miss all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests?


So he's talking big game but failing? While being unnecessarily reckless and cruel?

What a shocker.
He talks a big game, and fails repeatedly. Kilmar Abrego Garcia had a court appearance just last week in the US. They'll argue the law, not whether Trump's hilariously-alleged "free rein" means he's gone and stays gone.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3307 Posts
1 hour ago
#120126
They have a budget bigger than most country's militaries and freely ignore court orders. That actually proves they are too impaired to get the job done. Yeah, makes sense.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22661 Posts
1 hour ago
#120127
On October 11 2026 02:21 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2026 01:41 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 11 2026 01:25 dyhb wrote:
Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.
How on earth is it possible to miss all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests?
Yes I know, having a constitution that gives everyone rights is so annoying.
Which is why I bristle at people implying that Trump has free rein. Even immigration courts (final order of removal etc) operate by Congressionally-passed statute.
Because Trump, and the entire Republican party, had free reign to implement strict and effective immigration laws within the confines of the constitution and human rights.

Having to follow the constitution as the government is sort of supposed to be a given.
And with that free reign he has done.... just shit.

Its funny we had a far right government in the Netherlands recently, ran into the exact same issue. Kept trying to write laws their own bureaucrats repeatedly told them were unconstitutional. Got absolutely nothing done and when the electorate looked poised to slap them for doing nothing they blamed their coalition partners for being unwilling to defy the constitution to vote for illegal laws and brought down the government in a huff and a puff.

Turns out none of these anti-immigrant parties actually want to genuinely fix the issues with the immigration system. They rather sabotage it and complain how its not working, much easier not having to come up solutions.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States783 Posts
1 hour ago
#120128
On October 11 2026 02:27 LightSpectra wrote:
They have a budget bigger than most country's militaries and freely ignore court orders. That actually proves they are too impaired to get the job done. Yeah, makes sense.
I'm wondering how all these appeals to the Supreme Court and reversals of government policy based on adverse court rulings can exist in easily-verifiable facts while you still spout insane bullshit like Trump "freely ignore[s] court orders."

The one problem with the "resistance" if they have such idiots spouting nonsense among them. Trump makes an order about birthright citizenship. Courts stop. Guess what? If he freely ignores court orders, he would obviously revoke it immediately by fiat. He didn't. Thus, he doesn't freely ignore court orders.

Trump wants to deploy the national guard in Chicago. The lower courts stop. The Supreme Court leaves their ruling alone. Guess what? No federalized troops to Chicago. Clearly, Trump freely ignores court orders.

Trump wants to change mail ballot rules through the executive order on the USPS. The Court blocked ahead of the midterms. It remains blocked. We're currently holding midterms without them. Clearly, Trump freely ignores court orders.

My one request, LightSpectra, is that you differentiate yourself from Trump by not following Trump's example in ignoring contrary evidence and holding to your opinions in spite of the evidence.
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States783 Posts
1 hour ago
#120129
On October 11 2026 02:35 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2026 02:21 dyhb wrote:
On October 11 2026 01:41 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 11 2026 01:25 dyhb wrote:
Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.
How on earth is it possible to miss all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests?
Yes I know, having a constitution that gives everyone rights is so annoying.
Which is why I bristle at people implying that Trump has free rein. Even immigration courts (final order of removal etc) operate by Congressionally-passed statute.
Because Trump, and the entire Republican party, had free reign to implement strict and effective immigration laws within the confines of the constitution and human rights.

Having to follow the constitution as the government is sort of supposed to be a given.
And with that free reign he has done.... just shit.

Its funny we had a far right government in the Netherlands recently, ran into the exact same issue. Kept trying to write laws their own bureaucrats repeatedly told them were unconstitutional. Got absolutely nothing done and when the electorate looked poised to slap them for doing nothing they blamed their coalition partners for being unwilling to defy the constitution to vote for illegal laws and brought down the government in a huff and a puff.

Turns out none of these anti-immigrant parties actually want to genuinely fix the issues with the immigration system. They rather sabotage it and complain how its not working, much easier not having to come up solutions.
He's throwing a fit and spouting nonsense because you're right here. He doesn't have the Congressional majorities to change things that he doesn't like. He's stuck with the laws on the books, and that limits him. We should be happy for that, not doomers that believe alternative facts.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3307 Posts
50 minutes ago
#120130
Do you compare everyone who points out your logical fallacies to child molesters or am I your very special friend?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22661 Posts
40 minutes ago
#120131
On October 11 2026 02:47 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2026 02:35 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 11 2026 02:21 dyhb wrote:
On October 11 2026 01:41 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 11 2026 01:25 dyhb wrote:
Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.
How on earth is it possible to miss all the lawsuits, injunctions, temporary restraining orders, reversals, lack of state compliance, and protests?
Yes I know, having a constitution that gives everyone rights is so annoying.
Which is why I bristle at people implying that Trump has free rein. Even immigration courts (final order of removal etc) operate by Congressionally-passed statute.
Because Trump, and the entire Republican party, had free reign to implement strict and effective immigration laws within the confines of the constitution and human rights.

Having to follow the constitution as the government is sort of supposed to be a given.
And with that free reign he has done.... just shit.

Its funny we had a far right government in the Netherlands recently, ran into the exact same issue. Kept trying to write laws their own bureaucrats repeatedly told them were unconstitutional. Got absolutely nothing done and when the electorate looked poised to slap them for doing nothing they blamed their coalition partners for being unwilling to defy the constitution to vote for illegal laws and brought down the government in a huff and a puff.

Turns out none of these anti-immigrant parties actually want to genuinely fix the issues with the immigration system. They rather sabotage it and complain how its not working, much easier not having to come up solutions.
He's throwing a fit and spouting nonsense because you're right here. He doesn't have the Congressional majorities to change things that he doesn't like. He's stuck with the laws on the books, and that limits him. We should be happy for that, not doomers that believe alternative facts.
Republicans control the House, Senate and Presidency. They can't re-write the constitution but they can pass any law they want.

There is nothing 'doomer' or alternative fact about someone asking
On October 10 2026 17:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
Sorry to randomly interject but I have a question for oBlade and other Trump supporters on here:

So Trump has had a couple of years of total free rein to do whatever he wants with immigrants etc.

Has your day to day life changed as a result of this?

I'm not trying to catch you out I'm genuinely curious as to how you see things.
In every common and correct use of the words Trump and Republicans have had free rein.
But hey, anything to avoid answer the question right.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10009 Posts
3 minutes ago
#120132
On October 11 2026 02:21 dyhb wrote:Which is why I bristle at people implying that Trump has free rein. Even immigration courts (final order of removal etc) operate by Congressionally-passed statute.

Do I really have to add stipulations when Trump has as close to free rein as it is possible to get?

This objection just reads as pedantry to me.

And I still haven't had an answer from anyone.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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