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GreenHorizons
United States23698 Posts
They should all end up in the Hague, but I won't be surprised for people here to be advocating for one or more of them to be president in 2028. If you tell me to (or that you will) vote for people in this photo, you disgust me. No amount of "lesser evilism" rationalizes that depravity. | ||
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Sadist
United States7326 Posts
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Jankisa
Croatia1233 Posts
Pretty cynical if you ask me. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23698 Posts
On July 18 2025 03:46 Sadist wrote: GH you dont give a shit about gaza. You dont believe in harm reduction. Get out of here. Of course! It's obviously the Democrat leaders posing with the wanted genocidal war criminal and the people that vote for them that actually care! + Show Spoiler + /s since people here believe that unironically On July 18 2025 04:08 Jankisa wrote: My general observation is that GH uses Gaza as a kudgel to air his grievances, over in the Israel / Palestine thread he has nothing to say except bashing USA as a whole. Pretty cynical if you ask me. Alternatively, I just genuinely oppose genocide and want my fellow voters to stop voting for the bipartisan people aiding and abetting it. Opposing genocide didn't use to be controversial among Democrat voters until their politicians made them feel forced to materially support it with their votes. EDIT: I guess I should add that I basically agree with your posting in the Palestine thread (besides your dismissal of the indispensable role the US plays). | ||
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Billyboy
1530 Posts
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Billyboy
1530 Posts
On July 18 2025 04:15 GreenHorizons wrote: Of course! It's obviously the Democrat leaders posing with the wanted genocidal war criminal and the people that vote for them that actually care! + Show Spoiler + /s since people here believe that unironically Alternatively, I just genuinely oppose genocide and want my fellow voters to stop voting for the bipartisan people aiding and abetting it. Opposing genocide didn't use to be controversial among Democrat voters until their politicians made them feel forced to materially support it with their votes. Feel free to prove me wrong and write about a post about how horrible the Chinese government is for there past and current on going genocides. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2213 Posts
On July 18 2025 04:08 Jankisa wrote: My general observation is that GH uses Gaza as a kudgel to air his grievances, over in the Israel / Palestine thread he has nothing to say except bashing USA as a whole. Pretty cynical if you ask me. He admitted several pages ago he was a troll, not sure why anyone would take him seriously at this point except to waste time. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On July 18 2025 04:17 LightSpectra wrote: He admitted several pages ago he was a troll, not sure why anyone would take him seriously at this point except to waste time. What, did I miss something? Was it all a ruse the whole time!? T_T | ||
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Billyboy
1530 Posts
On July 18 2025 04:34 Mohdoo wrote: What, did I miss something? Was it all a ruse the whole time!? T_T He's a homeschooled rich white kid from Greenwich CT and been play acting revolutionary this whole time for attention, sorry for those who were fooled. + Show Spoiler + I mean its no impossible  | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2213 Posts
On July 18 2025 04:34 Mohdoo wrote: What, did I miss something? Was it all a ruse the whole time!? T_T https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28293823 bonus of him from a few more pages back implying he wanted the Affordable Care Act repealed in 2017: https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5055#101094 | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28757 Posts
On July 18 2025 04:47 LightSpectra wrote: https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28293823 bonus of him from a few more pages back implying he wanted the Affordable Care Act repealed in 2017: https://tl.net/forum/general/532255-us-politics-mega-thread?page=5055#101094 You're saying that failing to call your congress representative equates to implied support or opposition of something? That metric probably makes every last one of us guilty of supporting some pretty damn heinous shit. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26346 Posts
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LightSpectra
United States2213 Posts
On July 18 2025 05:56 Liquid`Drone wrote: You're saying that failing to call your congress representative equates to implied support or opposition of something? That metric probably makes every last one of us guilty of supporting some pretty damn heinous shit. Read the context. He hates the ACA and self admittedly didn't care about the tens of millions that got Medicaid because of it or would lose it because of the repeal. Does that sound like someone thats far left to you? | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On July 18 2025 07:45 LightSpectra wrote: Read the context. He hates the ACA and self admittedly didn't care about the tens of millions that got Medicaid because of it or would lose it because of the repeal. Does that sound like someone thats far left to you? yeah | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28757 Posts
On July 18 2025 07:45 LightSpectra wrote: Read the context. He hates the ACA and self admittedly didn't care about the tens of millions that got Medicaid because of it or would lose it because of the repeal. Does that sound like someone thats far left to you? GH has criticized the ACA plenty of times for being not leftist enough (his words - it's to the right of Nixon). Whatever issues people have with GH, some I find legitimate, but the notion that he's 'not actually far left' is truly odd and entirely off. Pretty certain you're the one missing context, here. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26346 Posts
On July 18 2025 07:45 LightSpectra wrote: Read the context. He hates the ACA and self admittedly didn't care about the tens of millions that got Medicaid because of it or would lose it because of the repeal. Does that sound like someone thats far left to you? As far as I recall GH says what he says on the ACA because he considers it the bare fucking minimum (if even that), and symptomatic of the low bar and low expectations of the modern Democratic Party. It’s why he frequently invokes its similarities to Nixon’s proposed healthcare reforms, for example. I’m here, rather a lot to put it mildly. I really don’t recall him hating the ACA or self-admittedly not caring if millions would lose benefits if it got repealed. I mean to an outsider, even with the ACA aspects of your healthcare system are still absolutely absurd and inhumane. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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oBlade
United States5932 Posts
On July 18 2025 07:45 LightSpectra wrote: Read the context. He hates the ACA and self admittedly didn't care about the tens of millions that got Medicaid because of it or would lose it because of the repeal. Does that sound like someone thats far left to you? Well then it's clear what the next step must be. You better call him stormfront too. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8723 Posts
/s CBS to Cancel ‘Late Show With Stephen Colbert’ Citing ‘Financial Decision’ “We consider Stephen Colbert irreplaceable and will retire ‘The Late Show’ franchise” in May of 2026, CBS executives said in a statement. “We are proud that Stephen called CBS home. He and the broadcast will be remembered in the pantheon of greats that graced late night television. This is purely a financial decision against a challenging backdrop in late night. It is not related in any way to the show’s performance, content or other matters happening at Paramount.” Colbert, who was informed of the network’s decision Wednesday evening, according to a person familiar with the matter, told the audience at the taping for Thursday’s broadcast about the matter. “It is a fantastic job. I wish somebody else was getting it,” he quipped, while offering thanks to CBS executives and the 200 or so staffers who work on his program. Audience members booed. ““Yeah, I share your feelings,” said Colbert. “It’s not just the end of our show, but it’s the end of ‘The Late Show’ on CBS. I’m not being replaced. This is all just going away.” though I would not put it past psychopathic executives to just cancel a show so storied like the Late Show for "financial reasons", the timing once again is ridiculous and everything points to another pesky voice being collateral damage to Trump's corrupt machinations. the deconstruction of "The Cathedral" powers on, is The Daily Show next on the chopping block? also this Epstein gem. ‘I’m Gonna Sue the Wall Street Journal’: Trump Rages Against Paper Over Epstein Story President Donald Trump is suing The Wall Street Journal after it published a story about his relationship with deceased sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. The Journal reviewed an album containing 50th birthday greetings to Epstein from his associates in 2003. That album was compiled by Epstein’s friend, Ghislaine Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year prison sentence for child trafficking. “Pages from the leather-bound album—assembled before Epstein was first arrested in 2006—are among the documents examined by Justice Department officials who investigated Epstein and Maxwell years ago, according to people who have reviewed the pages,” the publication stated. “It’s unclear if any of the pages are part of the Trump administration’s recent review.” One of those well-wishers was Trump, who sent Epstein a birthday letter that contained a drawing of a nude woman ... The message also contained an imaginary dialogue between Trump and Epstein: “Voice Over: There must be more to life than having everything,” the note began. Donald: Yes, there is, but I won’t tell you what it is. Jeffrey: Nor will I, since I also know what it is. Donald: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey. Jeffrey: Yes, we do, come to think of it. Donald: Enigmas never age, have you noticed that? Jeffrey: As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you. Trump: A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret. suing the press for printing Epstein stories you don't like in the country of free speech - especially when it is one where POTUS has been exposed as the duplicitous sack of lying excrement he is. Murdoch better weigh up if pleasing a wannabe dictator is worth tanking the WSJ over a story that is very much Trump. barreling down a dangerous road at breakneck speed there 'Murica. chilling speech with SLAPs is becoming way too common. even across the Atlantic. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18232 Posts
On July 18 2025 08:16 WombaT wrote: As far as I recall GH says what he says on the ACA because he considers it the bare fucking minimum (if even that), and symptomatic of the low bar and low expectations of the modern Democratic Party. It’s why he frequently invokes its similarities to Nixon’s proposed healthcare reforms, for example. I’m here, rather a lot to put it mildly. I really don’t recall him hating the ACA or self-admittedly not caring if millions would lose benefits if it got repealed. I mean to an outsider, even with the ACA aspects of your healthcare system are still absolutely absurd and inhumane. I think at the time, GH was against the ACA being passed, particularly because it had all kinds of things watering it down in the name of bi-partisan politics. Then, to add insult to injury, it got held hostage by Joe Lieberman to remove the public healthcare option. This was at a moment when Democrats had a greater majority in congress than republicans do now. Progressive Democrats voted along because "anything was better than nothing", but they should've played hardball like Lieberman to get an actually decent healthcare bill, which was what GH wanted at the time. Playing nice just to get something was, in hindsight, a great recipe to get continuously sidelined and ignored within the party. And no, they aren't a majority of Democrats. But they're a lot bigger minority than whatever Sinema, Manchin or for that matter Joe Lieberman represented. But the "right wing" of the party was just far less likely to toe the line, so got far more of their policy points included. | ||
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