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KwarK
United States43827 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45440 Posts
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Silvanel
Poland4747 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22198 Posts
On February 27 2025 12:26 Vindicare605 wrote: Yes Trump is a symptom, yes this has been going on for a lot longer. Yes its not just Republicans, Democrats do it as well. (Obama tried to do a fair bit via EO once Republicans in Congress began to utterly stonewall him)You came into this conversation late. I'm talking about how we got here. It's been an ongoing process that's taken decades of complacency from Moderates and Liberals in Congress as well as a whole lot of corruption that's just been getting worse and worse over time. This didn't happen in one election cycle because of the price of eggs. Like I've been saying since Trump was first elected. Trump is not the problem. Trump is a symptom of a much larger, and systemic problem. One the entire country needs to wake up to. Do I expect anyone to stand up to Trump in the next 4 years? No I don't. It's too late for that. We never should have gotten to this point in the first place and we never would have if Democrats would have had the guts to weaken the power of their own sitting Presidents instead of letting them keep or expand the power grabs the Republicans have made every time they've had the White House since Reagan. My point is that there are no measures you can realistically implement to limit to ability of a President to abuse his power when that Presidents party controls the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches and is willing to fuck the country. Heck we are seeing now that judges are telling Trump "no" and he just ignores them and the courts are seemingly powerless to make him. Because they can't enforce their judgements. And this isn't just an American problem, it is happening in the US now, it has happened in Hungary, it can happen anywhere. Checks and balances require someone somewhere in the line to be willing to oppose and right now all the people that can are Republicans and seemingly ok with this. If Democrats took power away from the President and gave it to Congress 10 years ago it wouldn't matter today because either Trump would be strait up ignoring Congress or the Republican controlled Congress would be agreeing with him. On February 27 2025 12:34 oBlade wrote: Secretary of Homeland Security, acting heads from April 2019 to Feb. 2nd 2021. 4 sperate consecutive acting heads from half way through Trumps presidency until the end.Congress is not supposed to "control" the heads of departments, their role is advice and oversight; nevertheless interim/acting heads do not have unlimited terms and serving on a permanent basis always requires Congressional approval. The reason you can have interim heads is that even if Congress is being intentionally politicized and dense, like not even voting for members of their own party, that it doesn't cause a top-down stalling of department business from leadership roles being empty. Sure I get why acting heads exist, I'm merely pointing out that the supposed oversight of Congress in having to approve of department heads is already known to be bullshit. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9799 Posts
When Elon Musk’s cost-cutting drive, the so-called “department of government efficiency (Doge), posted its “wall of receipts” boasting of major savings to the federal budget, the list was billed as the proud public interface of a radical shake-up of the US government. Instead, like much of Musk’s unprecedented engagement with the federal bureaucracy, the initiative has been mired in errors, confusion and obfuscation. In the latest embarrassment to befall the site, Doge has stealthily expunged all of the five largest items on the “wall of receipts” after the much-vaunted “savings” were revealed to be so much hot air. DOGE in 'getting everything wrong that everybody said was wrong' shocker. The worst thing is it has left all the zealots and fanatics with some explaining to do. Not that I expect to actually see any explanations, just moving on to the next DOGE lie they can insist is true, or the next catastrophic incompetent misunderstanding they can insist is somehow based in reality. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26512 Posts
On February 27 2025 19:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Apparently, Epstein's files / flight logs / client lists might be released over the next day or so. Is there any reason to believe that the information is going to be real and accurate, though? Given this administration's propensity for lies and bullshit, for all we know they could remove Donald Trump's name and add in Barack Obama and Kamala Harris lol. Even without being fudged, which I also don’t have much faith in not happening, they’re meaningless and really symptomatic of all this idiocy of modern clown world. Rich powerful dude has connections shocker! Clearly he did some pretty heinous shit, we all know how this goes though. Whoever certain folks don’t like, if they’re on those logs clearly they were part of the trafficking cabal. If it’s someone certain folks do like, they’ll not have been, and were there for legitimate business or schmoozing reasons. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26512 Posts
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c70wq044znxt From last week: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/US must not interfere in Tate's case, say alleged victims I legitimately just ran into this article right after my last post. It’s almost as if the internet God delivered unto me something that bolstered the exact point I was just making. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9799 Posts
On February 27 2025 20:01 WombaT wrote: In other news Andrew Tate has been allowed to leave Romania for now: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c70wq044znxt From last week: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/US must not interfere in Tate's case, say alleged victims I legitimately just ran into this article right after my last post. It’s almost as if the internet God delivered unto me something that bolstered the exact point I was just making. Give me your rapists, your insurrectionists, your arrested sex traffickers, yearning to breathe free | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5090 Posts
Honestly, was a toss up between that, Social Security Administration or U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9190 Posts
On February 27 2025 20:01 WombaT wrote: In other news Andrew Tate has been allowed to leave Romania for now: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c70wq044znxt From last week: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/US must not interfere in Tate's case, say alleged victims I legitimately just ran into this article right after my last post. It’s almost as if the internet God delivered unto me something that bolstered the exact point I was just making. Straight to Mar-a-Lago to discuss the UK political party they said they wanted to start. Even as a cynical pessimist, the world still finds ways to disappoint me. If you had told me 20 years ago that an alliance of Nazis and rapists will be a major side in the ideological battles of the 21st century I would have said you watched too many shitty B-movies. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45440 Posts
On February 27 2025 20:45 Uldridge wrote: Andrew Tate has been appointed as the head of the Department of Transportation, Honestly, was a toss up between that, Social Security Administration or U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. And then maybe Trump's runningmate when he runs for a third term lol. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26512 Posts
On February 27 2025 20:54 Dan HH wrote: Straight to Mar-a-Lago to discuss the UK political party they said they wanted to start. Even as a cynical pessimist, the world still finds ways to disappoint me. If you had told me 20 years ago that an alliance of Nazis and rapists will be a major side in the ideological battles of the 21st century I would have said you watched too many shitty B-movies. I’m assuming you don’t buy the idea that there was zero pressure from the US here, and that Romanian authorities didn’t bend aye? Is this a big story over there and how do people feel about it? | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1139 Posts
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Sadist
United States7327 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9799 Posts
On February 27 2025 21:09 KT_Elwood wrote: Why is this cringe lord so relevant? Because he's all about money, misogyny and exploitation | ||
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r00ty
Germany1069 Posts
After the prayer to thank the lord for Trump, the orange man went straight into the lies and opened with a statement that immigration went down well over 100% and everybody applauded him and nodded in agreement like an idiot. I think the most sane person in there was Marco Rubio. | ||
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oBlade
United States6015 Posts
On February 27 2025 19:37 Gorsameth wrote: Secretary of Homeland Security, acting heads from April 2019 to Feb. 2nd 2021. 4 sperate consecutive acting heads from half way through Trumps presidency until the end. Sure I get why acting heads exist, I'm merely pointing out that the supposed oversight of Congress in having to approve of department heads is already known to be bullshit. What's your political theory of what's supposed to happen when there's a divided government? I assume there's something beyond "red stonewalling is bad and stonewalling red is good." Your reading of the Constitution, who's worth more in staffing: Congress that establishes departments in the executive branch by law, or the person who gets elected to run it? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22198 Posts
On February 27 2025 21:25 oBlade wrote: A divided government is supposed to lead to compromise and cooperation.What's your political theory of what's supposed to happen when there's a divided government? I assume there's something beyond "red stonewalling is bad and stonewalling red is good." Your reading of the Constitution, who's worth more in staffing: Congress that establishes departments in the executive branch by law, or the person who gets elected to run it? A concept entirely foreign to Americans. | ||
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oBlade
United States6015 Posts
On February 27 2025 21:31 Gorsameth wrote: A divided government is supposed to lead to compromise and cooperation. A concept entirely foreign to Americans. So as regards the current issue, if the Senate and White House are controlled by rivals, the Senate should stonewall all appointments until they get a compromise of... about half the executive appointments staffed with people they want? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45440 Posts
Child in West Texas is first US measles death in a decade https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/26/health/texas-measles-death/index.html The first measles death in the growing outbreak in West Texas was a school-aged child. The child was unvaccinated and had been hospitalized in Lubbock, Texas, said Lauren Adams, Lubbock city spokesperson. ... The number of confirmed measles cases reported in an outbreak in West Texas is now at 124, the Texas Department of Health Services said in an update Tuesday, an increase of 34 since late last week. Most of the cases are in children ages 5 to 17. At President Donald Trump’s first cabinet meeting on Wednesday, he deferred a question about the measles outbreak in Texas to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., secretary of the US Department of Health and Human Services, who said, “We are following the measles epidemic every day.” Also, the sincerest "fuck all the way off" to RFK Jr.'s response here. Instead of "following the epidemic", how about you just *stop* the epidemic, instead of being complicit in killing children, you idiotic anti-vaxxer? | ||
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