EPToBlade is doing what JD Vance did - refusing to engage with the actual point.
Maybe oBlade is actually Vance! Let's test him.
Hey oBlade, pop quiz:
Donald Trump is America's...
a) Hitler
b) Not Hitler
US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4448
| Forum Index > General Forum |
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting! NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets. Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source. If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43228 Posts
oBlade is doing what JD Vance did - refusing to engage with the actual point. Maybe oBlade is actually Vance! Let's test him. Hey oBlade, pop quiz: Donald Trump is America's... a) Hitler b) Not Hitler | ||
|
Acrofales
Spain17652 Posts
On October 16 2024 19:05 MJG wrote: If you drew a face on a plank of wood then it would be more relatable than Trump. Hey, cut Trump some slack. It isn't easy to compete with Wilson! | ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5864 Posts
On October 17 2024 01:56 Acrofales wrote: Hey, cut Trump some slack. It isn't easy to compete with Wilson! I dunno, sometimes Trump looks so board that it's pretty close. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43228 Posts
On the other hand, Donald Trump (age 78) continues to hide his medical records, despite repeatedly losing his train of thought during rallies, slurring his speech, and showing other signs of cognitive deterioration so extreme that "More than 230 doctors and health care providers call on Trump to release his medical records." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-health-records-doctors-for-harris/ | ||
|
oBlade
Korea (South)4901 Posts
On October 17 2024 04:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Kamala Harris (age 59) has released her medical records, which is standard for most presidential candidates. She has seasonal allergies and is near-sighted, but is otherwise healthy. "In summary, Vice President Harris remains in excellent health. She possesses the physical and mental resiliency required to successfully execute the duties of the Presidency." https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/VP-Harris-Health-Summary.pdf On the other hand, Donald Trump (age 78) continues to hide his medical records, despite repeatedly losing his train of thought during rallies, slurring his speech, and showing other signs of cognitive deterioration so extreme that "More than 230 doctors and health care providers call on Trump to release his medical records." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-health-records-doctors-for-harris/ What exactly is the point of inquiry? What specifically do we want to verify? What test do we need the result of that we don't have? What lab result do we not know, that if released, will assuage the fears of ethics-violating TDS doctors and health care providers who make (un?)solicited public statements on people they've never seen as patients in practice? There is nothing that will satiate this nonsense, nothing to exonerate him from people so cleverly suspicious of him for his ability to... speak? that they missed Biden right in front of them for years. If the Secretary of Media Innuendo specified what exactly he could do to shut everyone up, I guarantee Drumpf would do it tomorrow. But that's not the game. The game is "medical records of the gaps." He released in 2023? Oh god, what about 2024? March? What about October? We know his cholesterol and PSA? What about this and that? EKG, okay, where's the CAT scan though? Here's your medical record. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/111/444/920/209/462/175/original/ad19690c4d5a7ac2.jpg) Is this not considered sincere or forthcoming enough because it doesn't contain the brave revelations of "she gets a rash and runny nose sometimes" like Kamala's? Is it his fault he's just healthy? - Maybe yes, actually. You know what's missing from this? Everything we already know. He takes a statin. He takes hair meds. He takes a multivitamin. He doesn't smoke or drink or do drugs or even drink normal Coke. His brother died of alcoholism and everyone else in his family lived to their 80s and 90s. Look, he brought a doctor's note to be president. Now just show us where the liberal principal's office is to get over this. If you can name something further you specifically worry about and can justify you have a right to know, tell me so I can put it in the next email and say I won't donate unless he releases it. | ||
|
PoulsenB
Poland7706 Posts
| ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5864 Posts
On October 17 2024 04:37 oBlade wrote: He doesn't smoke or drink or do drugs or even drink normal Coke. Is this the opposite of the TDS you like banging on about? That you're so infatuated with the man that you can't even tolerate the notion that the man has obviously done his share of drugs? Your post overall gives a strong "protests too much" vibe, surely you don't believe it yourself. Your answer is about as official as the "TDS" you can't stand. You cite a specious letter from his doctor from 2023. What about 2024? This shit has been happening as recently as this week. Where's the word from a reputed medical office/professional saying that he's in good health to serve as president if he wins? It's only standard to do so. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43228 Posts
On October 17 2024 04:37 oBlade wrote: What exactly is the point of inquiry? What specifically do we want to verify? What test do we need the result of that we don't have? What lab result do we not know, that if released, will assuage the fears of ethics-violating TDS doctors and health care providers who make (un?)solicited public statements on people they've never seen as patients in practice? There is nothing that will satiate this nonsense, nothing to exonerate him from people so cleverly suspicious of him for his ability to... speak? that they missed Biden right in front of them for years. If the Secretary of Media Innuendo specified what exactly he could do to shut everyone up, I guarantee Drumpf would do it tomorrow. But that's not the game. The game is "medical records of the gaps." He released in 2023? Oh god, what about 2024? March? What about October? We know his cholesterol and PSA? What about this and that? EKG, okay, where's the CAT scan though? Here's your medical record. + Show Spoiler + Is this not considered sincere or forthcoming enough because it doesn't contain the brave revelations of "she gets a rash and runny nose sometimes" like Kamala's? Is it his fault he's just healthy? - Maybe yes, actually. You know what's missing from this? Everything we already know. He takes a statin. He takes hair meds. He takes a multivitamin. He doesn't smoke or drink or do drugs or even drink normal Coke. His brother died of alcoholism and everyone else in his family lived to their 80s and 90s. Look, he brought a doctor's note to be president. Now just show us where the liberal principal's office is to get over this. If you can name something further you specifically worry about and can justify you have a right to know, tell me so I can put it in the next email and say I won't donate unless he releases it. Not sure if your rant is a joke or not, but that letter you put in spoiler tags is not even remotely close to the medical records that other presidential candidates, including Harris, generally release. Perhaps you didn't click on the link I posted; feel free to do that. I'm not sure why you're so defensive or dismissive about a proper evaluation - and the transparency of such an evaluation - of a man who would be the oldest president in American history (other than the fact that you want him to win). | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43228 Posts
On October 17 2024 05:02 NewSunshine wrote: Is this the opposite of the TDS you like banging on about? That you're so infatuated with the man that you can't even tolerate the notion that the man has obviously done his share of drugs? Your post overall gives a strong "protests too much" vibe, surely you don't believe it yourself. Your answer is about as official as the "TDS" you can't stand. You cite a specious letter from his doctor from 2023. What about 2024? This shit has been happening as recently as this week. Where's the word from a reputed medical office/professional saying that he's in good health to serve as president if he wins? It's only standard to do so. Just to add even more information to this: Trump has a history of forcing his doctors to write fake medical letters/reports. Trump also hides or fabricates the specifics of his medical records even while Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden (and now Kamala Harris) are releasing theirs. We all remember when Trump lied about his height and weight, and here's another example: ‘I just made it up’ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/06/trump-doctor-bruce-aronwald-bedminster-golf-club/ Trump has long relied on personal physicians and White House doctors to respond to — and sometimes insulate him from — questions about his health. In 2015, he tweeted that “as a presidential candidate, I have instructed my longtime doctor to issue, within two weeks, a full medical report — it will show perfection.” A full medical report was not immediately forthcoming. Instead, the following day, Trump’s then-physician, Harold Bornstein, signed a four-paragraph letter that said Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” It provided only a few metrics such as blood pressure and a PSA test for prostate screening. Bornstein, a gastroenterologist who died in 2021, later told CNN that Trump “dictated that whole letter. I didn’t write that letter. I just made it up as I went along.” | ||
|
Billyboy
175 Posts
But the reality is no one voting him cares, which is "strange" considering how much they cared about aged Biden's medical acuity. That being said most Dems would vote for a rock over Trump and Republicans are the same. | ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5864 Posts
On October 17 2024 05:52 Billyboy wrote: I'm sure we will see his medicals at the same time as his taxes. But the reality is no one voting him cares, which is "strange" considering how much they cared about aged Biden's medical acuity. That being said most Dems would vote for a rock over Trump and Republicans are the same. The difference is that Democrats called for Biden to step down over how he performed at a debate, in large part due to his apparent lack of mental acuity. Republicans have no floor at this point, there is nothing that could've convinced them that Trump wasn't their guy. Trump ran the gamut, too: twice impeached, convicted on 34 counts of financial fraud, found liable for sexual assault, is now the oldest person to ever make the ballot for president, complete with all the mental trip-ups to match, has spit on the face of our military, insulted his voters on a regular basis, and encouraged them to take random medication and drink bleach at the height of a pandemic, while he threatened to send our economy into another recession. This is a man who stared into a solar eclipse, and forsook his Vice President when his lackeys attacked the Capitol on January 6th. There is nothing that will convince his supporters otherwise. It would've happened by now. Granted, the timing with which people started calling for Biden to step down scared the shit out of me. It should've been done a long time ago. But it still happened at all. | ||
|
BlackJack
United States9897 Posts
| ||
|
NewSunshine
United States5864 Posts
On October 17 2024 06:37 BlackJack wrote: To be clear, Democrats called for Biden to step down because it became obvious that he was going to lose if he stayed in. If Biden was still ahead in the polls Democrats would have thrown their full support behind him even if he was talking to the mailbox like it was his neighbor. You're not wrong, but does that make any material difference to my point? They still did it. | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands21108 Posts
On October 17 2024 06:37 BlackJack wrote: I don't believe that. Sure for some it mattered that he was losing but they were already calling for it before the debate.To be clear, Democrats called for Biden to step down because it became obvious that he was going to lose if he stayed in. If Biden was still ahead in the polls Democrats would have thrown their full support behind him even if he was talking to the mailbox like it was his neighbor. I feel fairly in saying that for many people, even just here in the thread (myself included), his debate performance was why people called for him to step down, not the poll results. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43228 Posts
| ||
|
Razyda
427 Posts
The only explanations are either shamelessness, or having memory span of a drone ant. | ||
|
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9022 Posts
On October 17 2024 08:30 Razyda wrote: The same people who were few months ago in "Ave Biden" camp, now complain about not having Trump medical records. The only explanations are either shamelessness, or having memory span of a drone ant. This is an interesting way to look at things if you think about it. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43228 Posts
On October 17 2024 08:30 Razyda wrote: The same people who were few months ago in "Ave Biden" camp, now complain about not having Trump medical records. The only explanations are either shamelessness, or having memory span of a drone ant. I don't know what Ave Biden means, but Biden released his medical records to the public. Trump did not. https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Health-Summary-2.28.pdf There was also a stark contrast between Clinton's and Trump's too, making this the third straight presidential election where Trump is hiding things: "Dr. Bardack’s letter shows what a real letter of evaluation from an internist should look like, instead of the sloppy note from Donald Trump’s doctor, Harold Bornstein. In fact, that superficial note—dashed off in five minutes while Trump’s limo waited—was so filled with superlatives that it sounded like something Trump himself likely said. Trump’s results were “astonishingly excellent” and he would be the “healthiest individual ever elected.” Little substance, big bravado and YUGE ego." https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/09/14/the-surprises-in-hillary-clintons-newly-released-medical-records/ | ||
|
Billyboy
175 Posts
On October 17 2024 08:30 Razyda wrote: The same people who were few months ago in "Ave Biden" camp, now complain about not having Trump medical records. The only explanations are either shamelessness, or having memory span of a drone ant. I look forward to you posting videos of Trump looking old and crazy like you attempted with Biden. | ||
|
DOgMeAt
Czech Republic142 Posts
On October 17 2024 08:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I don't know what Ave Biden means, but Biden released his medical records to the public. Trump did not. https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Health-Summary-2.28.pdf There was also a stark contrast between Clinton's and Trump's too, making this the third straight presidential election where Trump is hiding things: "Dr. Bardack’s letter shows what a real letter of evaluation from an internist should look like, instead of the sloppy note from Donald Trump’s doctor, Harold Bornstein. In fact, that superficial note—dashed off in five minutes while Trump’s limo waited—was so filled with superlatives that it sounded like something Trump himself likely said. Trump’s results were “astonishingly excellent” and he would be the “healthiest individual ever elected.” Little substance, big bravado and YUGE ego." https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/09/14/the-surprises-in-hillary-clintons-newly-released-medical-records/ srsly? pReSiDeNt BiDeN iS a HeAlThY, aCtIvE, rObUsT 81-yEaR-oLd MaLe, WhO rEmAiNs FiT tO sUcCeSsFuLlY eXeCuTe ThE dUtIeS oF tHe PrEsIdEnCy, To InClUdE tHoSe As ChIeF eXeCuTiVe, HeAd Of StAtE aNd CoMmAnDeR iN cHiEf. you are too far gone, man + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/AZGiXda.jpeg) User was warned for this post | ||
| ||
