• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:35
CET 17:35
KST 01:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 102SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1821Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
uThermal 2v2 Circuit OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data analysis on 70 million replays I would like to say something about StarCraft Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Beyond All Reason Elden Ring Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1177 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4396

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4394 4395 4396 4397 4398 5406 Next
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.


If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
September 15 2024 14:28 GMT
#87901
On September 15 2024 23:18 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2024 22:30 Sadist wrote:
They are darker. They speak spanish. There is a perception they drive down wages.

Not saying any of those things are valid reasons to discriminate but thats what I would expect as an American.


You're forgetting that they're all drug dealers.

Some, I presume are good people
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
frontgarden2222
Profile Joined June 2024
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-15 16:31:54
September 15 2024 16:24 GMT
#87902


The more pertinent question is why everyone is hyper focusing on Springfield you dickhead.

Literally the only thing these assholes are priming is violence should Harris wins.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
September 15 2024 17:15 GMT
#87903
In my eyes, J.D. Vance is slowly transforming from merely a spineless, opportunistic, cowardly laughingstock into a legitimate threat to society. The fact that he joined Trump in Trump's latest bout of stochastic terrorism - these racist attacks on innocent people living in Ohio, full of lies and fearmongering and hatemongering, which are leading to actual threats and property damage - is incredibly alarming. Vance has already stated that he would have helped Trump steal the election if he were in Pence's position during the January 6th insurrection too.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22013 Posts
September 15 2024 17:19 GMT
#87904
On September 16 2024 02:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
In my eyes, J.D. Vance is slowly transforming from merely a spineless, opportunistic, cowardly laughingstock into a legitimate threat to society. The fact that he joined Trump in Trump's latest bout of stochastic terrorism - these racist attacks on innocent people living in Ohio, full of lies and fearmongering and hatemongering, which are leading to actual threats and property damage - is incredibly alarming. Vance has already stated that he would have helped Trump steal the election if he were in Pence's position during the January 6th insurrection too.
Being willing to steal the election for Trump was the #1 job requirement to be his VP, considering in Trumps mind the only reason he hasn't been President for the last 4 years is because Pence refused to stage a coup.
He wasn't going to make that 'mistake' twice.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
September 15 2024 17:31 GMT
#87905
The debate continues to have secondary and tertiary effects. Trump’s team felt like they needed to be bold and triple down to make a comeback. They committed hard to a really bad idea. Being behind and getting desperate are real, tangible effects.

Depending on how this Loomer situation goes the next couple of weeks, this may spiral into an actual dead campaign. Trump has already been bleeding influence and favors lately. He has a very tough choice to make right now. But I guarantee you she has a contingency plan to make sure she doesn’t get tossed in the trash. I think it’s entirely possible she has firm and devastating blackmail on him at this point. She would absolutely tweet her own sex videos with him if he tries to ditch her. Assuming she has such things. I am beginning to think we may be looking at checkmate depending on if he pulls off a miracle in the next couple of weeks
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
September 15 2024 18:15 GMT
#87906
On September 16 2024 02:19 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2024 02:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
In my eyes, J.D. Vance is slowly transforming from merely a spineless, opportunistic, cowardly laughingstock into a legitimate threat to society. The fact that he joined Trump in Trump's latest bout of stochastic terrorism - these racist attacks on innocent people living in Ohio, full of lies and fearmongering and hatemongering, which are leading to actual threats and property damage - is incredibly alarming. Vance has already stated that he would have helped Trump steal the election if he were in Pence's position during the January 6th insurrection too.
Being willing to steal the election for Trump was the #1 job requirement to be his VP, considering in Trumps mind the only reason he hasn't been President for the last 4 years is because Pence refused to stage a coup.
He wasn't going to make that 'mistake' twice.


Agreed. It's still crazy to me that Trump is so arrogant that he picked a mini-him/beta-cuck-simp as his runningmate, as opposed to someone who would balance the ticket and lock in way more votes, like Nikki Haley.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5794 Posts
September 15 2024 19:24 GMT
#87907
"Stochastic terrorism" to the extent it's something that exists and not contrived word salad, is not false flag bomb threats called in by Redditors or other hoaxers trying desperately to drum up the appearance of violence, but someone literally just getting arrested for again taking shots at Trump in Florida.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28728 Posts
September 15 2024 19:26 GMT
#87908
Where's your source for that oBlade? I read the shooting incident in florida had nothing to do with trump and was two other people shooting at each other - but that the shootout happened somewhat in the vincinity of Trump.
Moderator
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
September 15 2024 19:50 GMT
#87909
On September 16 2024 04:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Where's your source for that oBlade? I read the shooting incident in florida had nothing to do with trump and was two other people shooting at each other - but that the shootout happened somewhat in the vincinity of Trump.


Same here. oBlade is wrong.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9144 Posts
September 15 2024 19:56 GMT
#87910
On September 16 2024 04:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2024 04:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Where's your source for that oBlade? I read the shooting incident in florida had nothing to do with trump and was two other people shooting at each other - but that the shootout happened somewhat in the vincinity of Trump.


Same here. oBlade is wrong.

Not necessarily, the event is too recent and there's conflicting reports still.

New York Post added that two people exchanging gunfire meant specifically for each other engaged in a shootout. The shooters were not targeting Trump, the sources said, according to the outlet.

However, CNN reported contradictory information. Citing its own sources, the network reported that officials believed the shots at the golf club were indeed intended for Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/15/trump-safe-gunshots-golf-course
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
September 15 2024 20:00 GMT
#87911
On September 16 2024 04:56 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2024 04:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 16 2024 04:26 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Where's your source for that oBlade? I read the shooting incident in florida had nothing to do with trump and was two other people shooting at each other - but that the shootout happened somewhat in the vincinity of Trump.


Same here. oBlade is wrong.

Not necessarily, the event is too recent and there's conflicting reports still.

Show nested quote +
New York Post added that two people exchanging gunfire meant specifically for each other engaged in a shootout. The shooters were not targeting Trump, the sources said, according to the outlet.

However, CNN reported contradictory information. Citing its own sources, the network reported that officials believed the shots at the golf club were indeed intended for Trump.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/15/trump-safe-gunshots-golf-course


Neither of those contradictory reports supports oBlade's assertion that people actually shot at Trump in Florida. Even if one of the two shooters was actually hoping to eventually shoot at Trump, they didn't. They may have fired shots, but not at Trump.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28728 Posts
September 15 2024 20:10 GMT
#87912
Eh if the shots were intended for Trump but that the person had to 'get through someone' first and thus had to shoot someone else instead I'm honestly fine with oBlade's description. But my Norwegian media made it seem like it wasn't really related to Trump from my first read, and I'm afraid to revisit the page because I'm watching a football match with 1 hour delay and it'll probably get spoiled if I go there.
Moderator
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-09-15 20:23:41
September 15 2024 20:22 GMT
#87913
On September 16 2024 05:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Eh if the shots were intended for Trump but that the person had to 'get through someone' first and thus had to shoot someone else instead I'm honestly fine with oBlade's description. But my Norwegian media made it seem like it wasn't really related to Trump from my first read, and I'm afraid to revisit the page because I'm watching a football match with 1 hour delay and it'll probably get spoiled if I go there.


If that were the case, then it'd be accurate to say that an assassination attempt was foiled, but not that someone actually shot at Trump.

Anyways, I'm sure that Trump and his allies will pearl-clutch and assert the worst, regardless of the facts, as always.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
September 15 2024 20:41 GMT
#87914
Trump just posted on social media "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!"

It's like he's practically begging Swifties to register and vote against him.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 15 2024 20:41 GMT
#87915
On September 16 2024 05:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2024 05:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Eh if the shots were intended for Trump but that the person had to 'get through someone' first and thus had to shoot someone else instead I'm honestly fine with oBlade's description. But my Norwegian media made it seem like it wasn't really related to Trump from my first read, and I'm afraid to revisit the page because I'm watching a football match with 1 hour delay and it'll probably get spoiled if I go there.


If that were the case, then it'd be accurate to say that an assassination attempt was foiled, but not that someone actually shot at Trump.


oBlade was using it as an example of stochastic terrorism. If someone went to a Trump golf course with the intent to shoot and kill Trump it really doesn't make a difference if the shots intended for Trump were close enough to hit him.

Arguing the semantics of "shots intended for Trump" vs "shot at Trump" is kind of silly but it's exponentially more silly when it doesn't even affect oBlade's point.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 15 2024 20:44 GMT
#87916
On September 15 2024 22:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:
What’s the grief against Mexican immigrants?

In Europe there is an anti immigrant sentiment that is directed towards Muslims and black people. But i assume the basis for the hostility towards Latino migrants is built on as different basis.

It feels kind of strange from him because you would never have, say, an anti Spanish sentiment in France and the target of the anti immigration sentiment are people who are culturally further away.


The grief against migrants, as best as I can tell, is entirely dependent on what region you're in

In blue states/cities they are disliked because they are a strain on public resources and other legitimate problems.

In red states/cities they are disliked because they are black and brown.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9757 Posts
September 15 2024 20:47 GMT
#87917
On September 16 2024 05:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Trump just posted on social media "I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!"

It's like he's practically begging Swifties to register and vote against him.


You know if Taylor Swift was to say anything even remotely bad about KH or good about Trump he'd be saying how much he loves her and expect all his biggest fans on the internet to forget that he posted this.

Which is fine, but we all know they would oblige and the gaslighting would immediately begin. Again.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
September 15 2024 20:49 GMT
#87918
I just realized these shots fired around the golf course are horrible for Trump. This will totally be enough of a smoke bomb to kill the momentum against Loomer. I think Loomer is able to hold on against the backlash and remain in his inner circle now.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
September 15 2024 20:51 GMT
#87919
On September 16 2024 05:41 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2024 05:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 16 2024 05:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Eh if the shots were intended for Trump but that the person had to 'get through someone' first and thus had to shoot someone else instead I'm honestly fine with oBlade's description. But my Norwegian media made it seem like it wasn't really related to Trump from my first read, and I'm afraid to revisit the page because I'm watching a football match with 1 hour delay and it'll probably get spoiled if I go there.


If that were the case, then it'd be accurate to say that an assassination attempt was foiled, but not that someone actually shot at Trump.


oBlade was using it as an example of stochastic terrorism. If someone went to a Trump golf course with the intent to shoot and kill Trump it really doesn't make a difference if the shots intended for Trump were close enough to hit him.

Arguing the semantics of "shots intended for Trump" vs "shot at Trump" is kind of silly but it's exponentially more silly when it doesn't even affect oBlade's point.


Except oBlade didn't even bother to say who would have hypothetically been creating that stochastic terrorism (and it's not like Harris or Walz are telling people to attack Trump, whereas Trump and Vance are consistently gaslighting their supporters into harming others), so:
1. That hypothetical might not be stochastic terrorism anyway;
2. It. Still. Didn't. Actually. Happen.

So oBlade is wrong in two ways. Thanks!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45184 Posts
September 15 2024 20:52 GMT
#87920
On September 16 2024 05:49 Mohdoo wrote:
I just realized these shots fired around the golf course are horrible for Trump. This will totally be enough of a smoke bomb to kill the momentum against Loomer. I think Loomer is able to hold on against the backlash and remain in his inner circle now.


What exactly is going on with Loomer? I keep hearing about how she's insane and also spending a lot of time with Trump, but I don't know how/why it's a big deal all of a sudden. Did something recently happen with her (besides her crazy argument with MTG)?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Prev 1 4394 4395 4396 4397 4398 5406 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14:00
2026 January
WardiTV785
uThermal382
SteadfastSC290
IndyStarCraft 240
Liquipedia
Platinum Heroes Events
12:00
PSC2L Finals - Playoffs
Gerald vs CreatorLIVE!
RotterdaM1061
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1061
uThermal 382
SteadfastSC 290
IndyStarCraft 240
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28105
Soma 1074
EffOrt 973
Stork 773
Horang2 730
Mini 674
ZerO 560
Light 421
Shuttle 411
BeSt 382
[ Show more ]
hero 205
Rush 185
firebathero 155
Last 136
Barracks 114
LaStScan 81
yabsab 26
Terrorterran 23
soO 21
Shine 18
HiyA 16
Sexy 14
Sacsri 8
Dota 2
qojqva3277
XcaliburYe209
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 535
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor195
Other Games
Grubby3895
Gorgc3046
Liquid`RaSZi2594
singsing2021
B2W.Neo754
Hui .246
FrodaN204
ArmadaUGS141
KnowMe62
ZerO(Twitch)21
Railgan2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick16218
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 21
• HeavenSC 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
3h 25m
Dewalt vs Cross
Replay Cast
16h 25m
Wardi Open
19h 25m
RotterdaM Event
1d
Patches Events
1d 3h
PiGosaur Cup
1d 8h
OSC
1d 19h
SOOP
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
SOOP
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.