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BlackJack
United States9914 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28443 Posts
Anyway at this point there are no major swings to be had. But it's gonna boil down to minor ones, so the presidential and vp debates might still be of crucial importance. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21122 Posts
And with how entrenched both sides are turnout is what is going to decide the election. | ||
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BlackJack
United States9914 Posts
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micronesia
United States24451 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15264 Posts
On September 09 2024 04:32 BlackJack wrote: Eh… there were a lot of people that were shocked at Biden’s debate performance. Everyone knew he was old but the mainstream media was also helping to push the narrative that behind closed doors he was still “sharp as a tack” and to not judge him based on a few gaffes that were mostly Republican disinformation anyway. Harris is following Biden’s lead of not really talking with the media and it’s a good strategy since she’s not a great public speaker and the media seems like they won’t do a lot to hold her feet to the fire for not taking their questions. The interests and motivations of news organizations deeply benefit from Trump being a major threat and even winning the election. Fear sells. News channels are just doom scrolling for boomers. Even if we assumed Harris would do well and yadda yadda, any situation that can be framed as “Trump might be president” is inherently more profitable for CNN, MSNBC and all the others. They are profit driven entities and even if they are saying conveying their messages in an anti-Trump way, they will always be incentivized to sacrifice Harris’s chances of winning to get more views. “Harris voices support for free school lunches, potentially dooming her chances in critical swing states” and whatnot are very common. Even glowing praise needs to be framed as something to be anxious and worried about. | ||
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BlackJack
United States9914 Posts
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EnDeR_
Spain2447 Posts
On September 09 2024 06:09 Mohdoo wrote: The interests and motivations of news organizations deeply benefit from Trump being a major threat and even winning the election. Fear sells. News channels are just doom scrolling for boomers. Even if we assumed Harris would do well and yadda yadda, any situation that can be framed as “Trump might be president” is inherently more profitable for CNN, MSNBC and all the others. They are profit driven entities and even if they are saying conveying their messages in an anti-Trump way, they will always be incentivized to sacrifice Harris’s chances of winning to get more views. “Harris voices support for free school lunches, potentially dooming her chances in critical swing states” and whatnot are very common. Even glowing praise needs to be framed as something to be anxious and worried about. I mean, it'd be hard to argue that people in the media wouldn't benefit massively from a Trump presidency -- everyone would be glued to their screens 24/7 following the latest scandal. Comedians will again have unlimited material to work with. Isn't this the right-wing argument in a nutshell? "he's a terrible person and a worse president, but he will be good for our pockets" | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria3204 Posts
- Cutting all funding to Israel - Danger of Trump presidency - Moving money out of politics (ending Super-PAC) - Healthcare as human right - Disconnect between public interest and leadership - Progress is slow but steady and more | ||
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Vindicare605
United States15936 Posts
On September 09 2024 04:59 Gorsameth wrote: I see Kamala instead of Biden being more about voter turnout and enthusiasm then people being willing to vote for one but not the other. And with how entrenched both sides are turnout is what is going to decide the election. This is how it was always going to be once Trump decided to run again. This is about either wanting him in office or keeping him out. Turnout for both sides are going to be lower this time I think than it was in 2020. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43284 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10524 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9034 Posts
Literally the first thing she says. He'll never recover. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43284 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5325 Posts
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BlackJack
United States9914 Posts
On September 10 2024 20:32 Jockmcplop wrote: Harris needs to come right out of the gate with an accusation that no-one ever turns up to watch Trump speak. Literally the first thing she says. He'll never recover. That’s genius. I think you are right | ||
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TentativePanda
United States779 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43284 Posts
On September 10 2024 20:32 Jockmcplop wrote: Harris needs to come right out of the gate with an accusation that no-one ever turns up to watch Trump speak. Literally the first thing she says. He'll never recover. This kind of just happened right now, and you're right lmao. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43284 Posts
On September 11 2024 10:25 TentativePanda wrote: The abortion fight in the US is the most wild thing. Democrats don't want to come out and say "yeah we want women to be able to abort a baby whenever we want" so they talk about insane corner cases of rape and incest. Republicans don't want to come out and say "we don't support abortion under normal circumstances" and so they talk about insane corner cases of mega late term abortions (and apparently after birth now - it's getting more insane?). Such an interesting psychological play at capturing support from a wide swathe of voters, requiring discussing the most niche examples of abortion to back up their policy. Maybe the most clear example of how broken the political system is Less than 1% of abortions are in the third trimester, and almost always due to pregnancy complications where the fetus isn’t viable and the mother’s health is at risk, so the very question is a red herring to the broader issue of abortion. | ||
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