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On August 07 2024 09:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd love to see Walz debate Vance. Pretty sure Walz would destroy Vance. Walz is so much more charismatic and able to connect and "real".
Is it "real" to repeat flagrantly false things, like the couch story? As long as we all know what we're dealing with here. I mean Trump and Kamala lie enough as it is, but it's certainly an odd jab when it doesn't have any basis in reality at all.
What are you talking about? Walz never officially said that Vance fucks couches, and I haven't seen Vance give a public explanation about how he doesn't fuck couches. Republicans don't get to suddenly care about the burden of proof.
And then once Vance explains himself briefly, I'll move the goalposts back to how Vance hasn't released a long-form explanation of how he doesn't fuck couches. Perhaps he has a certificate stating such?
We're just asking questions.
Vance is the one who voluntarily tied his wagon to Hitler Trump. That's pretty weird. He deserves all the memes he gets.
The thing I find amusing is how left-wing twitter actually bought the story for so long. The point I was making though was more specific. I don't get how Walz can be all these great things and the type of person who traffics in what would seem to be, as you imply by this post, a very Trumpian type of thing. And reveling in it! What is that saying? Maybe you two aren't so different after all! And I think you realize what you are doing with that sentence at the end saying essentially that Vance deserves it for being tied to Trump. I'm just curious what makes that "real" and how is that connecting to anyone, again besides silly people on twitter.
I mean if it were humor I would expect it to be funny. As a righty I'm used to jokes at my side's expense, that's not really the problem. I wonder how many people here actually thought the story was real until I pointed it out?
The story that Vance has sex with couches? It took me two seconds to Google it when I first heard it lol. Don't mistake people enjoying Vance's extremely well-deserved mocking for people thinking that every rumor about him is true. Besides, it's just locker room talk! Every guy talks about their conquests, right? Even if it's with an inanimate object, like a sofa? I won't judge if Vance comes out as homo-sectional. What they do in the privacy of their own living room is between a man and IKEA.
You: JD Vance agreed to be Trump's runningmate. Someone Else: JD Vance? Isn't he that weird couch-fucker who thinks Trump is Hitler, thinks women are useless and psychos if they don't have kids, has a hatred of cats and people owning cats, thinks parents should get extra votes, said he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election if he were in Pence's position, and tried to beat racism by bragging about Diet Mountain Dew? Why would he want to be Hitler's runningmate? You: He doesn't really fuck couches, ya know.
As if that's the most problematic part.
idk man, that's the part you seem most interested in...again though, absolutely no discussion if this is a good idea from him, which is kind of where I tried to steer this. Now of course you are going to tell me "but Trump" as if somehow Trump isn't allowed to get away with far more than any other politician. I just think dems should cool their jets, heartbreak could be a mere 3 months away.
I'm way more interested in the 99% of relevant material that Harris and Walz bring up about their vision for America and how it differs from a Trump/Vance presidency. The fact that Harris and Walz can laugh and crack jokes too is just icing on the couch.
Trump having golden showers… JD Vance fucking couches… Of all the things to criticize that ticket over, imagining them in made up sexual exploits has to be the most weird
On August 07 2024 09:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd love to see Walz debate Vance. Pretty sure Walz would destroy Vance. Walz is so much more charismatic and able to connect and "real".
Is it "real" to repeat flagrantly false things, like the couch story? As long as we all know what we're dealing with here. I mean Trump and Kamala lie enough as it is, but it's certainly an odd jab when it doesn't have any basis in reality at all.
What are you talking about? Walz never officially said that Vance fucks couches, and I haven't seen Vance give a public explanation about how he doesn't fuck couches. Republicans don't get to suddenly care about the burden of proof.
And then once Vance explains himself briefly, I'll move the goalposts back to how Vance hasn't released a long-form explanation of how he doesn't fuck couches. Perhaps he has a certificate stating such?
We're just asking questions.
Vance is the one who voluntarily tied his wagon to Hitler Trump. That's pretty weird. He deserves all the memes he gets.
The thing I find amusing is how left-wing twitter actually bought the story for so long. The point I was making though was more specific. I don't get how Walz can be all these great things and the type of person who traffics in what would seem to be, as you imply by this post, a very Trumpian type of thing. And reveling in it! What is that saying? Maybe you two aren't so different after all! And I think you realize what you are doing with that sentence at the end saying essentially that Vance deserves it for being tied to Trump. I'm just curious what makes that "real" and how is that connecting to anyone, again besides silly people on twitter.
I mean if it were humor I would expect it to be funny. As a righty I'm used to jokes at my side's expense, that's not really the problem. I wonder how many people here actually thought the story was real until I pointed it out?
The story that Vance has sex with couches? It took me two seconds to Google it when I first heard it lol. Don't mistake people enjoying Vance's extremely well-deserved mocking for people thinking that every rumor about him is true. Besides, it's just locker room talk! Every guy talks about their conquests, right? Even if it's with an inanimate object, like a sofa? I won't judge if Vance comes out as homo-sectional. What they do in the privacy of their own living room is between a man and IKEA.
You: JD Vance agreed to be Trump's runningmate. Someone Else: JD Vance? Isn't he that weird couch-fucker who thinks Trump is Hitler, thinks women are useless and psychos if they don't have kids, has a hatred of cats and people owning cats, thinks parents should get extra votes, said he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election if he were in Pence's position, and tried to beat racism by bragging about Diet Mountain Dew? Why would he want to be Hitler's runningmate? You: He doesn't really fuck couches, ya know.
As if that's the most problematic part.
idk man, that's the part you seem most interested in...again though, absolutely no discussion if this is a good idea from him, which is kind of where I tried to steer this. Now of course you are going to tell me "but Trump" as if somehow Trump isn't allowed to get away with far more than any other politician. I just think dems should cool their jets, heartbreak could be a mere 3 months away.
I'm way more interested in the 99% of relevant material that Harris and Walz bring up about their vision for America and how it differs from a Trump/Vance presidency. The fact that Harris and Walz can laugh and crack jokes too is just icing on the couch.
while I hate to admit it, Trump is actually really funny so I hope they can at least give him some competition. Still not there yet
On August 07 2024 09:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd love to see Walz debate Vance. Pretty sure Walz would destroy Vance. Walz is so much more charismatic and able to connect and "real".
Is it "real" to repeat flagrantly false things, like the couch story? As long as we all know what we're dealing with here. I mean Trump and Kamala lie enough as it is, but it's certainly an odd jab when it doesn't have any basis in reality at all.
What are you talking about? Walz never officially said that Vance fucks couches, and I haven't seen Vance give a public explanation about how he doesn't fuck couches. Republicans don't get to suddenly care about the burden of proof.
And then once Vance explains himself briefly, I'll move the goalposts back to how Vance hasn't released a long-form explanation of how he doesn't fuck couches. Perhaps he has a certificate stating such?
We're just asking questions.
Vance is the one who voluntarily tied his wagon to Hitler Trump. That's pretty weird. He deserves all the memes he gets.
The thing I find amusing is how left-wing twitter actually bought the story for so long. The point I was making though was more specific. I don't get how Walz can be all these great things and the type of person who traffics in what would seem to be, as you imply by this post, a very Trumpian type of thing. And reveling in it! What is that saying? Maybe you two aren't so different after all! And I think you realize what you are doing with that sentence at the end saying essentially that Vance deserves it for being tied to Trump. I'm just curious what makes that "real" and how is that connecting to anyone, again besides silly people on twitter.
I mean if it were humor I would expect it to be funny. As a righty I'm used to jokes at my side's expense, that's not really the problem. I wonder how many people here actually thought the story was real until I pointed it out?
The story that Vance has sex with couches? It took me two seconds to Google it when I first heard it lol. Don't mistake people enjoying Vance's extremely well-deserved mocking for people thinking that every rumor about him is true. Besides, it's just locker room talk! Every guy talks about their conquests, right? Even if it's with an inanimate object, like a sofa? I won't judge if Vance comes out as homo-sectional. What they do in the privacy of their own living room is between a man and IKEA.
You: JD Vance agreed to be Trump's runningmate. Someone Else: JD Vance? Isn't he that weird couch-fucker who thinks Trump is Hitler, thinks women are useless and psychos if they don't have kids, has a hatred of cats and people owning cats, thinks parents should get extra votes, said he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election if he were in Pence's position, and tried to beat racism by bragging about Diet Mountain Dew? Why would he want to be Hitler's runningmate? You: He doesn't really fuck couches, ya know.
As if that's the most problematic part.
idk man, that's the part you seem most interested in...again though, absolutely no discussion if this is a good idea from him, which is kind of where I tried to steer this. Now of course you are going to tell me "but Trump" as if somehow Trump isn't allowed to get away with far more than any other politician. I just think dems should cool their jets, heartbreak could be a mere 3 months away.
I'm way more interested in the 99% of relevant material that Harris and Walz bring up about their vision for America and how it differs from a Trump/Vance presidency. The fact that Harris and Walz can laugh and crack jokes too is just icing on the couch.
while I hate to admit it, Trump is actually really funny so I hope they can at least give him some competition. Still not there yet
Unintentionally maybe. His jokes have never landed for me. Everyone is saying it. I can't believe it but the other day a man came up to me, a good man, the best man, well, not as good as me but and he said "sir, they're..."
The only time Trump is funny is when he's completely lacking in self awareness and misreads his audience, but even then it's an Office cringy kind of funny. He can't tell a funny anecdote because he can't tell an anecdote at all because he simply doesn't have the mental capability to make it through one.
On August 07 2024 09:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd love to see Walz debate Vance. Pretty sure Walz would destroy Vance. Walz is so much more charismatic and able to connect and "real".
Is it "real" to repeat flagrantly false things, like the couch story? As long as we all know what we're dealing with here. I mean Trump and Kamala lie enough as it is, but it's certainly an odd jab when it doesn't have any basis in reality at all.
What are you talking about? Walz never officially said that Vance fucks couches, and I haven't seen Vance give a public explanation about how he doesn't fuck couches. Republicans don't get to suddenly care about the burden of proof.
And then once Vance explains himself briefly, I'll move the goalposts back to how Vance hasn't released a long-form explanation of how he doesn't fuck couches. Perhaps he has a certificate stating such?
We're just asking questions.
Vance is the one who voluntarily tied his wagon to Hitler Trump. That's pretty weird. He deserves all the memes he gets.
The thing I find amusing is how left-wing twitter actually bought the story for so long. The point I was making though was more specific. I don't get how Walz can be all these great things and the type of person who traffics in what would seem to be, as you imply by this post, a very Trumpian type of thing. And reveling in it! What is that saying? Maybe you two aren't so different after all! And I think you realize what you are doing with that sentence at the end saying essentially that Vance deserves it for being tied to Trump. I'm just curious what makes that "real" and how is that connecting to anyone, again besides silly people on twitter.
I mean if it were humor I would expect it to be funny. As a righty I'm used to jokes at my side's expense, that's not really the problem. I wonder how many people here actually thought the story was real until I pointed it out?
The story that Vance has sex with couches? It took me two seconds to Google it when I first heard it lol. Don't mistake people enjoying Vance's extremely well-deserved mocking for people thinking that every rumor about him is true. Besides, it's just locker room talk! Every guy talks about their conquests, right? Even if it's with an inanimate object, like a sofa? I won't judge if Vance comes out as homo-sectional. What they do in the privacy of their own living room is between a man and IKEA.
You: JD Vance agreed to be Trump's runningmate. Someone Else: JD Vance? Isn't he that weird couch-fucker who thinks Trump is Hitler, thinks women are useless and psychos if they don't have kids, has a hatred of cats and people owning cats, thinks parents should get extra votes, said he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election if he were in Pence's position, and tried to beat racism by bragging about Diet Mountain Dew? Why would he want to be Hitler's runningmate? You: He doesn't really fuck couches, ya know.
As if that's the most problematic part.
idk man, that's the part you seem most interested in...again though, absolutely no discussion if this is a good idea from him, which is kind of where I tried to steer this. Now of course you are going to tell me "but Trump" as if somehow Trump isn't allowed to get away with far more than any other politician. I just think dems should cool their jets, heartbreak could be a mere 3 months away.
I'm way more interested in the 99% of relevant material that Harris and Walz bring up about their vision for America and how it differs from a Trump/Vance presidency. The fact that Harris and Walz can laugh and crack jokes too is just icing on the couch.
while I hate to admit it, Trump is actually really funny so I hope they can at least give him some competition. Still not there yet
Unintentionally maybe. His jokes have never landed for me. Everyone is saying it. I can't believe it but the other day a man came up to me, a good man, the best man, well, not as good as me but and he said "sir, they're..."
The only time Trump is funny is when he's completely lacking in self awareness and misreads his audience, but even then it's an Office cringy kind of funny. He can't tell a funny anecdote because he can't tell an anecdote at all because he simply doesn't have the mental capability to make it through one.
I can't watch The Office, the cringiness and second-hand embarrassment are too much me, but I can't help but laugh at some things Trump says. maybe it's how he says it. He's definitely a showman and there's a reason people liked him before he got into politics.
On August 07 2024 14:02 BlackJack wrote: Trump having golden showers… JD Vance fucking couches… Of all the things to criticize that ticket over, imagining them in made up sexual exploits has to be the most weird
But yet if one merely reams off a list of things Trump has actually done and said, you’ve got ‘Trump derangement syndrome’ apparently
In news that isn't related to the US election, Elon Musk is attempting to sue a group of companies who pulled advertising from Twitter. I'm pretty sure it isn't illegal for companies to choose when and where they advertise.
These are the types of people we're putting the future of space travel into the hands of.
I know that the rumors that Vance admitted to fucking a couch in his book are unfounded and originated from a hoax. At the same time, I absolutely believe that it is nonetheless true that he has fucked a couch at some point in his life.
Most senior conservatives have some weird sex thing going on. If we’re lucky it’s gay sex, if we’re unlucky it’s minors. Or the Roger Stone shit where his wife was coerced into his fetish. If anything fucking a couch is probably too mild. But I don’t see fucking a couch as disqualifying as a candidate. It’s all the other stuff I have an issue with.
That said the furniture in the White House probably has historic significance so I’d prefer he not fuck it I guess. If we could get him a hot new futon or whatever then I’m good with it. It’s certainly better than his running mate who is very prominently involved in the Epstein ring. If it was confirmed that Vance was exclusively into furniture that’d actually be somewhat comforting.
In news that isn't related to the US election, Elon Musk is attempting to sue a group of companies who pulled advertising from Twitter. I'm pretty sure it isn't illegal for companies to choose when and where they advertise.
These are the types of people we're putting the future of space travel into the hands of.
Yikes.
Mr Musk is really playing with fire with such things, and hopefully it comes back to bite the cunt.
Be it pleasing advertisers or even avoiding the possibility of the regulatory hammer, similar outfits either earnestly do try to moderate content, or at least pay lip service to it and that goes a way. Whereas he doubles down and shitposts (incredibly cringily) and sticks a giant target on Twitter.
I’ve a friend who works in a sector and he says that actually Twitter’s team for such things are professional, cordial and switched-on, actually better than most. But after agreeing on certain things and creating frameworks to move forwards, after a day/week or w/e there’s a complete 180 and they have to start again. Repeatedly.
And guess what, it’s Elon Musk just jumping in and making unilateral decisions and pissing all involved off, who’d have possibly thunk it?
His recent comments on the civil disturbances were particularly egregious, as well as fucking stupid. If there’s ever a time to shut the fuck up for self-preservation purposes if nothing else, it’s when riots prompted by a slew of misinformation, including via your platform are still ongoing, and chunks of the British people and legislature are extremely pissed off at that state of affairs.
On August 07 2024 15:30 AmericanUmlaut wrote: I know that the rumors that Vance admitted to fucking a couch in his book are unfounded and originated from a hoax. At the same time, I absolutely believe that it is nonetheless true that he has fucked a couch at some point in his life.
If true I can admire his perseverance if nothing else. I mean on a mechanical level it just feels such an awkward choice of partner
On August 07 2024 09:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd love to see Walz debate Vance. Pretty sure Walz would destroy Vance. Walz is so much more charismatic and able to connect and "real".
Is it "real" to repeat flagrantly false things, like the couch story? As long as we all know what we're dealing with here. I mean Trump and Kamala lie enough as it is, but it's certainly an odd jab when it doesn't have any basis in reality at all.
What are you talking about? Walz never officially said that Vance fucks couches, and I haven't seen Vance give a public explanation about how he doesn't fuck couches. Republicans don't get to suddenly care about the burden of proof.
And then once Vance explains himself briefly, I'll move the goalposts back to how Vance hasn't released a long-form explanation of how he doesn't fuck couches. Perhaps he has a certificate stating such?
We're just asking questions.
Vance is the one who voluntarily tied his wagon to Hitler Trump. That's pretty weird. He deserves all the memes he gets.
The thing I find amusing is how left-wing twitter actually bought the story for so long. The point I was making though was more specific. I don't get how Walz can be all these great things and the type of person who traffics in what would seem to be, as you imply by this post, a very Trumpian type of thing. And reveling in it! What is that saying? Maybe you two aren't so different after all! And I think you realize what you are doing with that sentence at the end saying essentially that Vance deserves it for being tied to Trump. I'm just curious what makes that "real" and how is that connecting to anyone, again besides silly people on twitter.
I mean if it were humor I would expect it to be funny. As a righty I'm used to jokes at my side's expense, that's not really the problem. I wonder how many people here actually thought the story was real until I pointed it out?
The story that Vance has sex with couches? It took me two seconds to Google it when I first heard it lol. Don't mistake people enjoying Vance's extremely well-deserved mocking for people thinking that every rumor about him is true. Besides, it's just locker room talk! Every guy talks about their conquests, right? Even if it's with an inanimate object, like a sofa? I won't judge if Vance comes out as homo-sectional. What they do in the privacy of their own living room is between a man and IKEA.
You: JD Vance agreed to be Trump's runningmate. Someone Else: JD Vance? Isn't he that weird couch-fucker who thinks Trump is Hitler, thinks women are useless and psychos if they don't have kids, has a hatred of cats and people owning cats, thinks parents should get extra votes, said he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election if he were in Pence's position, and tried to beat racism by bragging about Diet Mountain Dew? Why would he want to be Hitler's runningmate? You: He doesn't really fuck couches, ya know.
As if that's the most problematic part.
idk man, that's the part you seem most interested in...again though, absolutely no discussion if this is a good idea from him, which is kind of where I tried to steer this. Now of course you are going to tell me "but Trump" as if somehow Trump isn't allowed to get away with far more than any other politician. I just think dems should cool their jets, heartbreak could be a mere 3 months away.
It isn’t by some immutable law of nature, vast swathes of the country chose to extend that privilege to him, of all people.
For conservatives who have not, who actually value good old-fashioned values like decorum, vaguely telling the truth etc, absolutely they can tut at ‘couchgate’ and whatnot.
Folks who have indulged what Trump has brought into the US political realm do not have a leg to stand on whatsoever. Hell they don’t even have a torso to rest on terra firma with, they’re essentially a disembodied head floating in perpetuity on the currents of their own hypocrisy.
On August 07 2024 15:37 WombaT wrote: Also for someone who never shuts up about the ‘marketplace of ideas’, why is the idea of well, a marketplace of marketplaces so confounding to him?
That's the irony of the whole concept.
How can you sue a company for choosing where to spend their money in an open marketplace?
"One rule for me, one rule for thee", which is very on-brand for someone who supports Trump.
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On August 07 2024 15:32 KwarK wrote: Most senior conservatives have some weird sex thing going on.
On August 07 2024 14:02 BlackJack wrote: Trump having golden showers… JD Vance fucking couches… Of all the things to criticize that ticket over, imagining them in made up sexual exploits has to be the most weird
I don't have the impression that sex is the main attacking point of the Dems. Honestly, I think it is mostly a troll job, directly from the MAGA playbook.
The main strategy is "Trump and the conservatives are weird (as hell)." I feel it works and resonates, and I don't think the Trump campaign have come up with a good defense or counterattack yet. "Who are these people calling us weird?" and "weird is pretty cool" are weak attempts, which I don't think will bring in many swing voters.
I am very happy the DEMs seem to go for a positive and discrediting strategy instead of warnings and fear of their opponent.
On August 07 2024 09:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd love to see Walz debate Vance. Pretty sure Walz would destroy Vance. Walz is so much more charismatic and able to connect and "real".
Is it "real" to repeat flagrantly false things, like the couch story? As long as we all know what we're dealing with here. I mean Trump and Kamala lie enough as it is, but it's certainly an odd jab when it doesn't have any basis in reality at all.
What are you talking about? Walz never officially said that Vance fucks couches, and I haven't seen Vance give a public explanation about how he doesn't fuck couches. Republicans don't get to suddenly care about the burden of proof.
And then once Vance explains himself briefly, I'll move the goalposts back to how Vance hasn't released a long-form explanation of how he doesn't fuck couches. Perhaps he has a certificate stating such?
We're just asking questions.
Vance is the one who voluntarily tied his wagon to Hitler Trump. That's pretty weird. He deserves all the memes he gets.
The thing I find amusing is how left-wing twitter actually bought the story for so long. The point I was making though was more specific. I don't get how Walz can be all these great things and the type of person who traffics in what would seem to be, as you imply by this post, a very Trumpian type of thing. And reveling in it! What is that saying? Maybe you two aren't so different after all! And I think you realize what you are doing with that sentence at the end saying essentially that Vance deserves it for being tied to Trump. I'm just curious what makes that "real" and how is that connecting to anyone, again besides silly people on twitter.
I mean if it were humor I would expect it to be funny. As a righty I'm used to jokes at my side's expense, that's not really the problem. I wonder how many people here actually thought the story was real until I pointed it out?
The story that Vance has sex with couches? It took me two seconds to Google it when I first heard it lol. Don't mistake people enjoying Vance's extremely well-deserved mocking for people thinking that every rumor about him is true. Besides, it's just locker room talk! Every guy talks about their conquests, right? Even if it's with an inanimate object, like a sofa? I won't judge if Vance comes out as homo-sectional. What they do in the privacy of their own living room is between a man and IKEA.
You: JD Vance agreed to be Trump's runningmate. Someone Else: JD Vance? Isn't he that weird couch-fucker who thinks Trump is Hitler, thinks women are useless and psychos if they don't have kids, has a hatred of cats and people owning cats, thinks parents should get extra votes, said he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election if he were in Pence's position, and tried to beat racism by bragging about Diet Mountain Dew? Why would he want to be Hitler's runningmate? You: He doesn't really fuck couches, ya know.
As if that's the most problematic part.
idk man, that's the part you seem most interested in...again though, absolutely no discussion if this is a good idea from him, which is kind of where I tried to steer this. Now of course you are going to tell me "but Trump" as if somehow Trump isn't allowed to get away with far more than any other politician. I just think dems should cool their jets, heartbreak could be a mere 3 months away.
I'm way more interested in the 99% of relevant material that Harris and Walz bring up about their vision for America and how it differs from a Trump/Vance presidency. The fact that Harris and Walz can laugh and crack jokes too is just icing on the couch.
while I hate to admit it, Trump is actually really funny so I hope they can at least give him some competition. Still not there yet
Unintentionally maybe. His jokes have never landed for me. Everyone is saying it. I can't believe it but the other day a man came up to me, a good man, the best man, well, not as good as me but and he said "sir, they're..."
The only time Trump is funny is when he's completely lacking in self awareness and misreads his audience, but even then it's an Office cringy kind of funny. He can't tell a funny anecdote because he can't tell an anecdote at all because he simply doesn't have the mental capability to make it through one.
I can't watch The Office, the cringiness and second-hand embarrassment are too much for me, but I can't help but laugh at some things Trump says. maybe it's how he says it. He's definitely a showman and there's a reason people liked him before he got into politics.
Could you give us an example of something you've heard Trump say that you thought was funny? I'm genuinely curious here. To me, he doesn't come across as someone who is able to deliver a punchline to a joke. Feel free to link a clip if you've got one, I'll watch it.
It is indeed interesting that Democrats have sought for so long to find a way to attack the far right and it turns out the answer is calling them weird. They wear deplorabele and fascist as a badge of honor because it makes them feel strong, because it shows that they are a threat, but weird, weird is bad. They are the majority, the default, they are not 'weird' and they dont seem to have an answer for it.
The reason why the couch thing got tied with JD Vance so easily is because he is essentially a techbro who, because of his failed Hollywood career as the never-Trumper MAGA whisperer, decided to build up his 'conservative' bonafides by going on the terminally online groyper circuit.
Its a bad place to go because everyone in that circuit are the absolute worse freaks when it comes to social issues, especially sexuality and women. Which is why the couch fucking pro-natalist incel labels are sticking and isn't something he can wiggle out of. Like no normal person should want to collaborate with anyone directly connected to Andrew Tate but this timeline is cursed so we have a potential future VP of the United States collaborating with the Nelk Boys.
Like it says a whoooole lot that JD Vance was reportedly recommended by Elon Musk and Donald Trump Jr. They could have put up a normal Republican from the midwest who knows to shut the fuck up and not spend 8 hours on Twitter arguing that Kamala Harris isn't black because they calculated that she's technically only 13.94% black. Even Tommy Tuberville was smart enough to tell reporters that he wasn't touching this issue with a 12ft pole.
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